Thread 76579699

Is it essential for good health? Can I skip it?

your heart literally has a fixed number of heartbeats determined by genetics before you die. why would you hasten your death?

>>76579699 (OP)
you dont hate cardio you just simply aren't doing a form of cardio you enjoy

try different shit til u find something you like

>>76579710
What?

>>76579699 (OP)
I am a weightlifter at heart and have been lifting for 15 years. I avoided cardio that whole time for a few reasons.
1. Its fucking hard if you dont do it all the time and its miserable.
2. It takes even more time out of my day where lifting already takes an hour.
3. I thought it would interfere with my hypertrophy gains somehow.

I got a hernia early this year and that really put a hold on the types of lifting I could do but I didnt want to stop exercising so I started doing cardio for 30 minutes a day and just made it part of my routine. I dont know how I ever got through life without it. I can lift again so I lift heavier than ever and recover in between sets in about 1/3 the time. This has reduced my weight lifting sessions from 60+ mins down to around 40 minutes. It just takes way less time in between sets to recover which I attribute directly to cardiovascular improvements from doing cardio every day. This means my workouts have gone from 90 mins when I first started doing cardio down to about 70 mins which is only 10 minutes more than when I was just lifting but im getting the same amount of sets in so this is great. Its worth the 10 extra minutes out of my day for all the other benefits which include the following.

1. Sex with my wife is insane now. I have higher stamina, can last longer and go hard without even becoming remotely winded or tired or sweaty.
2. I can run around and chase my kids through the park and up and around the obstacles etc.
3. Resting heart rate dropped from 95+ bpm down to 55bpm. My blood pressure which was high is also now normal. This is the most insane part of this whole cardio thing. When I was lifting I was taking blood pressure medication because I was at like 145/90. I have been to the doctor a few times and now its 118/78 consistently without meds. The reduced heart rate is eerie because im used to the fast beat of around 100bpm. My heart is so much stronger now.

Cardio is king.

>>76579699 (OP)
Do it for the benefits it brings and you will likely learn to enjoy it. I hated running when I didn't do it. Hated it when I started doing it. Became sort of ambivalent to it. Started to get some good improvements, started to enjoy it, moving on to really enjoying it and looking forward to it.

>>76579880
famous astronaut said it so it's true.

>>76579699 (OP)
When did you begin doing cardio?

>>76579699 (OP)
just go rollerblading its fun and ez you do have rollerskates dont u

>>76580459
this. Cardio sucks insanely hard when you start but over a few months you learn to love it.

>>76579699 (OP)
Cardio is literally a stat multiplier to everything in your body, it improves EVERYTHING

>>76580344
Bruh imagine having a wife so ugly you need to train to get hard.

>>76580344
What are you doing? I am not a fan of my 15 degree incline, 2 mph, 30 minute walks.

>>76580833
I just do steady state on the cardio bike. I turn it up to the max resistance and then push as hard as reasonably possible for 30 minutes. It took me a couple months to be able to actually leave it at level 25. My heart rate stays pretty high at around 177. For the first 15 minutes or so I can keep it at 70rpm but as I tire out I drop down to about 60rpm on max resistance. My goal is to be able to go for 30 minutes at 70 rpm at resistance level 25. I try every day to do this but ayart to get heart palpitations that feel uncomfortable so I back off a bit and they go away. Still alive so idk. Ive been meaning to try an incline treadmill. Are you just getting bored of it?

>>76579699 (OP)
My question is how often/how much cardio do I need on a weekly basis to really see improvements? I start every gym sesh with ~10 minutes of cardio and I run outside once or twice a week (not huge runs mind you, maxxing out at a 10k rn and usually its an 8-10km one day and a 5-6km on another) and don't really think I've seen many benefits besides being able to run a little longer

>>76579699 (OP)
>Is it essential for good health?
Yes.
> Can I skip it?
Not if you want to avoid an early death.

whats a good cardio routine that's short to complete? My biggest problem with getting cardio in is the time spent on it.

>>76579699 (OP)
Move to a place like Utah or Washington State where there are lots of mountains, national parks, national forests etc and go hiking. There are more trails than you can do in a lifetime

>>76579699 (OP)
You can skip large amounts of it if you lift weights and keep your hr somewhere around 60-80% max safe hr through your workout by either cutting rests by doing antagonist sets schemes, circuit training or doing something like Doggcrapp where there's just not a lot of rest to begin with. If you have 2 or 3 hours of that a week you only really "need" one ~20 ish minute hard cardio session which can be done by just increasing the resistence on a rower, elliptical, increasing the incline on a treadmill at a brisk walk the end goal is raise your hr slowly until it reaches a point you cannot sustain it then you're good.

>>76581507
Whatever raises your heart rate for 20 to 30 minutes. Walk, run, skip rope, bicycle, whatever you can either tolerate or enjoy. Just get your heart rate up consistently for that minimum window.

>>76579699 (OP)
>Is it essential for good health?
Yes.
>Can I skip it?
You can skip whatever you want.

Rowing is king. I’d say swimming is second place, but not everyone has ready access to a pool. Jump roping is nice too.
For me, it goes:
Rowing>swimming = walking>jump rope>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>running

>>76581425
Yes its just boring and isn't super progressable

>>76581803
running is fun though

>>76580344
I didn’t think cardio would you so much time when lifting, thats a huge deal for me. I need to start running or doing the stairmaster.

>>76584639
*save you so much time

>>76580495
I don't remember exactly, like 3-4 weeks ago

You can get really good cardio gains with minimal investment. A morning 1 mile run around the neighborhood 3x a week goes a long way and you can work on increasing you time just like you try to increase your lifts.

You're going too fast. Slow it down and listen to rock music, then speed up near the end. Try to keep a consistent pace all throughout unless you have more in the tank near the end. Everyone psyches themselves out on cardio because they go way too hard in the beginning when the beginning should leave you bored and wanting to go faster. Also, run on the street because treadmill running is boring as fuck and is not real running anyways

>>76579710
4/10, made me respond

>>76579699 (OP)
as someone who is older, it's a lot easier to stay or get back into shape when you're 35+ if you start doing cardio early. a lot of fat middle aged guys took their young metabolism for granted and didn't train cardio after like age 21 so they get big quick

>>76579710
This is trump takes on fitness

>>76579699 (OP)
What else are you doing with you time? shitposting?

>>76580344
Women hate me and I don’t have children so none of that gay shit applies to me, in other words there are jo benefits so fuck off.

>>76579699 (OP)
I am opposite OP
I hate lifting but I like cardio
I hate even doing calisthenics but I don't mind jogging for two hours

>>76579699 (OP)
I LOVE doing cardio it pumps me up makes me feel like Gears of War I love running all over town and weaving, skipping, hopping, sprinting, striding, barreling through the environment

>>76579699 (OP)
You can skip it if you lift heavy, and take short rests, or if you walk a lot. Running is bad for the joints

>>76588087
cope

>>76588091
Good argument. Enjoy your knee problems

>>76588120
You are aware that there are other forms of cardio lad?

>>76580833
>2 mph
dude are you 80 years old?

>>76588120
Enjoy having heart problems from your lack of aerobic exercise

>>76585370
Trump is also obese and lives on a diet of fast food

>>76585335
>muh metabolism!
Peoeple get fat because they aren't growing anymore and stop moving


>Total and basal expenditure and fat-free mass were all stable from ages 20 to 60, regardless of sex. Adjusted TEE and RMR remained stable even during pregnancy, and any increase in unadjusted energy expenditure during pregnancy was accounted for by the increase in body mass. The point at which adjusted TEE started to decline was age 63, and for adjusted BMR was age 46.5 (although the researchers indicate a small number of BMR measurements reduced their confidence in this estimate).

>>76581525
What he said, I didn't think of brisk walking/hiking as cardio until I moved closer to a park and started walking around it everyday, 45-60 minutes of various inclines and declines with or without weight will get your heart rate up, added benefit is that being in nature's supposedly good for your subconscious, very location dependent of course

>>76580800
Topkek

>>76579699 (OP)
>Is it essential for good health?
Yes.
>Can I skip it?
You can do less of it and still get a lot of health benefits. My blood pressure went way down just jogging for 20 minutes a day.

>>76579719
DEFINITELY a factor, op try sprints.You'll get cardio done in half the time and it's fun too

>>76580344
Can I have a go on your wife please?

>>76580634
Like?

>>76586506
I didn't read that faggot's long-ass effort post, but running is very good for your cardiovascular system. It will train you to have way more energy, and your heart will become much more efficient over time so that it doesn't have to work as hard when you're resting. It lets you achieve a new level of relaxation that you've never experienced before, trust me bro

>>76580800
>>76589644
That's so dumb, he wasn't lasting long so cumming quicker, literally the opposite. Why did you make this up?

>>76580800
Sadly common these days. Most "men" now have now backbone at all and let their wives do whatever they want. Their wives don't respect them at all so they balloon up and stop taking care of themselves because they know they don't have to anymore

>>76579699 (OP)
Gym treadmills are the most boring way imaginable to do cardio. Do swimming/martial arts/dancing/cycling/hiking/running clubs instead.

>>76579880
it's shit bait but he's referring to this

>>76590246
> Tfw your gf's ass dies at 30

>>76590345
This shouldn't be as funny as it is