Thread 76581322

8 reps. I love the look on dyels faces when they see me doing these more than they can bench.
You'll never get big shoulders doing lateral raises with 20lbs dumbbells and stupid OHP which is a front delt exercise anyway and no matter how strict you think your form is you just lean back and turn it into a vertical bench press anyway

you know what bro you are fucking right. I keep tweaking my should doing lateral raises. gonna start doing these instead

>>76581322 (OP)
I will do these tomorrow, you better not be fucking with me. Of you are, woe to your lineage. If you are not, blessing upon your lineage.

>>76581347
And dont listen to these formcels either.
Rows and lat raises are fairly very easy most of the way up an extremely difficult at the very top. Its ok to use a little moment to get that last few inches at the top of the ROM just dont get carried away.
Also lat raises dont stress your elbows so if you're prone to tendonitis, upright rows are more likely to aggrivate it.

>>76581378
con't -
also and ez curl bar might be better than a straight barbell for most people. Much easier on the wrists and elbows

I can row 2 plates for reps any time just from my deadlift strength. I didn't row for probably a year then did them the other day

>>76581410
if you're talking about bent over lat rows/ pendlay rows thats not the same thing.

>>76581322 (OP)
It's crazy that retards vilified these and behind the neck ohp when both are great.

Based as fuck, time to start blasting out high pullshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YtOANPcgww

>>76581322 (OP)
I do these but on rings upside down

>>76581322 (OP)
>>doesn't poast video
weak larp, you sound like a little cunt

Upright row or high pull?

>>76581959
>Anonymous 09/03/25(Wed)08:50:13 No.76581959▶
>Upright row or high pull?
the movement is not entirely useless injurious nonsense
>wdym hooman, i think it won't grow shit and will for certain fuck u up bigly, especially when u load 2 plates, lol 2 plates is A LOT to even row, there is no way u're gonna stop the motion at the very top and hold it, it's gotta be momentum and a LOT of it, like in high pull
true bot-bottom but if u had body bot i would tell u to stand up straight and meme the exercise empty handed, then lift your shoulders to ears and externally rotate shoulders in top of the exercise position
> and what ?
doesn't go very far before it's locked does it ?
>yeah, like 60ish degrees my foreams make
u don't have forearms bot, doesn't matter, now drop your shoulders down
> ooooo, they went past vertical, my forearms, it opened up the shoulder joint
u don't have forearms bot-bottom, but alas
it's all in the control and positioning of scapula, IF U CONTROL SCAPULA AND KEEP IT DOWN AND OUT then very top of this otherwise retarded exemercise becoms excellent isometric hold and it works delts like a charm :D
2 very light dumbbells will do the job, 2 plates lol :D looooool :D

show me ONE HUMAN bot-bottom doing controlled upright row with 2 plates - i will not hold my breath bot-bottom

>76582034
what causes such disorders?
being fed with a lead spork during infancy?

>>76582034
get it together bot you are malfunctioning

>>76582065
>>76582039
so where is my upright row with 2 plates, i wish to see it bot :D >>76582034
>show me ONE HUMAN bot-bottom doing controlled upright row with 2 plates - i will not hold my breath bot-bottom

>>76581322 (OP)

kek - nice picture name

>>76581322 (OP)
>Finally did 2 plate upright row
No you fucking didn't. I wouldn't even believe 1plate with good form till clavicle. Video or never happened (and never will what a retarded claim lmao)

>>76581322 (OP)
My upper back looks like shit from the side unless i flex. Am i supposed to be doing a ton of strict bb front raises and or half rep top of rom good mornings or how do i look thicker from the side?

>>76581322 (OP)
>You'll never get big shoulders doing lateral raises with 20lbs dumbbells

after all, 20 lbs is as high as dumbbells go, weight wise

>>76581322 (OP)
>stupid OHP which is a front delt exercise anyway and no matter how strict you think your form is you just lean back and turn it into a vertical bench press anyway
I don't really do anything but single arm and barbell ohp and my side delts are fine thanks.

>>76583668
You gotta try just doing mid delts with ohp and elbows in front. Front delts only activate with the arm going inwards anyways.

>>76583659
lmao jealous little dyel

I was lied to by Athlean-X about never doing these but they feel so fucking good and my shoulders have never felt better nor were bigger. Gets your entire top profile bulging from the neck to the even the brachioradialis.

>>76581322 (OP)
How did you do it bro. Upright rows feel great for my shoulders, but they fuck up my wrists. Any time I try to do them I can feel/hear a faint clicking noise followed by mild discomfort - almost as if I'm about to snap something. No other exercise has done me this dirty

>>76585093
>but they fuck up my wrists
try an ez curl bar and experiment with different hand positions

>>76585100
>>76585093
This thread is so motivating. I used to spam upright rows in 2023 and I had crazy trap and shoulder gains. I should get back to it, and I didn’t even go heavy back then

>>76585093
I use these on my barbell. Also I put Fat Grips next to these so that they don't slip and slide.

What do you guys think of upright rows with dumbbells? They feel a lot better for my wrists but they don’t seem like they blast my delts as well for some reason.

>>76581322 (OP)
>upright rows
t. works at the visitor center for snap city

>>76585321
>it is le bad because I saw a meme about it

aww - it's so clean, so undisturbed bot :D
u still haven't shown ONE human doing 2 plates controlled upright row bot-bottomer :D

>>76585292

Whatever helps you upright row! I prefer the EZ-bar as the stability lets me overload more easily.

>>76585321

It's cool how everyone has discounted this charlatan's advice outside of finding a good stretch for lower back pain.

>>76581322 (OP)
I get literally 0 hypertrophy from this but its a pretty sick lift for shoulders health.

>>76585292
u need elbows below palms for delt to work, u need scapula dropped down and spread out (serratus anterior flex - think lat spread)
>so just the top of motion
yes
>with 2 light dumbbels in isometric hold
yes, as if u rode high handlebars bike, BUT scapula must be dropped down
and scapula sits on ribs that are attached to spine so u will also want to assume upright posture with extended thoracic and double chin for cervical spine extension
this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhcW4Jizttk
is utter fucken garbage - too heavy, traps will take over and i just told u to keep traps elongated with dropped scapula, it will pinch shit (nerves and shit) between scapulae as u struggle and u get no muscle cause why would u - time under tension if u even get any will be in miliseconds range
it is all ballistic dynamic bullshit
>range of motion
well if it is range of motion why don't u stop at the very top of it
>i can't it's too heavy
colour me surprizened :D
>>76585524
>aww - it's so clean, so undisturbed bot :D
>u still haven't shown ONE human doing 2 plates controlled upright row bot-bottomer :D

>>76585321
>>76585535
nah bot, i just fixed it in this very post :D lets see if u will panic again :D

>>76585342
>a well informed video by a sports physiologist and rehabilitator is "just a meme"
Absolutely fucking certified mental midget. Also that's not a meme that's just his video thumbnail.
>>76585535
>reddit spacing
>hating on athlean x

OP is right. Upright rows and behind the neck presses are where it's at. I refuse to ever do fucking laterals.

>>76585969
>OP is right. Upright rows and behind the neck presses are where it's at. I refuse to ever do fucking laterals.
i believe it's called false dichotomy logical fallacy bot
they all work in fractions of rom (isometric hold) provided scapulae are
held down and out :D
>>76585562

>but than it's sth completely different
indeed bot bottomo :D sth that works & doesn't fuck u up :D

>>76585809
>if you dont recognize this thumbnail of a shirtless guy holding holding a barbell you are mental midget
Also have you ever hurt youself doing upright rows? Do you know anyone who has?

>>76583978
video or never happened

>>76586125
post body once or stop fucking posting altogether

>>76586677
> implying he lifts
kek

>>76585093
Use straps

I just switched to lateral raises from the seated position where you swing the weight under your legs. Jay cutler does them like this and I felt a great shoulder pump when I tried it and no shoulder pain in the joint. Had to lower the weight from what I do standing which means I was cheating more than I thought I was. A little bit of cheating is OK and part of the exercise though. Sitting down limits it a lot

>>76586675
lol another weakling

>>76585969
Honestly i used to hate raises at all but it is the only way to make your physique flow more by fetting the end of the fiber as in it makes your delts look longer, or pecs look wider and flow into delts etc. However my strength on presses barely go up unless its a blatant weakness.

>>76586658
Honestly when the joint dislocates trying to get it up high, more on front and lateral db raises desu. But i just go super light like 5lbs and make sure to brace and use reverse/normal grip to strengthen the tendon without just grinding/impinging it throughout the day so i can lift again sooner.

>>76581322 (OP)
I can still row way way more than bench its some bullshit but my rear delts also suck. Im thinking i need to start doing seal row shrugs and some wide reverse top of rom back work.

>>76585093
Just superficially rotate your hands so you push the barbell like a neutral grip and before putting on heavy weight work on different arm/elbow/shoulder angles. For back i usually like to arch over and push hands forward/up a little bit so the weights on the muscles and not the tendons.

>>76586677
>>76586685
>>76586697
>>76586934
blah blah bot bottom :D

>>76586902

>>76586934
>should i train to joint strain
Well impingement, grinding, and tearing/ripping off joint or bone the tendons are all different ways to put you out of the gym for a while unproductively. You have to learn the biomechanics of each lift to really be able to get as strong as possible. And yeah to a degree you can regrow tendons, your body produces hgh/test more if you are regularly lifting and moreso the more muscle you have and are bulking without going into new water source mode.

>>76586928
A lot of people dismiss them but I find bent over flys are best for hitting the rear delts specifically. It's much easier to go heavy with rows but you're engaging so many additional muscle groups that the load is spread around and the extra weight doesn't translate to as much additional stimulus to the rear delts as you might think. If you do the flys with strict form instead of cheating and emphasize the hold at the top of the motion moderate weights will still blow your rear delts up

>>76586986
I find the only thing to get me a rear delt pump besides top of rom pulls and ripping apart/twisting is super heavy and rotate your body to the right and work more hammer grip with the arm towards hip, and prison reps. I also find that bent elbow or doing a row with a little bit of a fly motion is nice but nothing but heavy push/pulls ever works for me if my form isnt good on the respective lift.

I was trying to do some heavy bench isometrics/failure to train it like a shrug, and the whole overloading/eccentric for me is way too much work and i just prefer high volume heavy speed reps once my form is locked in. Its way easier to make cables work easier since momentum has been fucking my gains even if i power through the movement.

>>76585969
Idk if youre being facetious but btb is the best way to get heavy weight on your mid delts but you have to have a strong core to be able to get your shoulder blades in front of your shoulder joints almost. I like using an incline bench and leaning forward however much depending on grip width/hand/elbow rotation since bottom of rom heavy instead of just putting the weight on delts is typically just gonna destroyyour tendons. But luckily the lift isnt heavy enough to rip tendons off the jointbut its one of the more advanced lifts since not getting inured while adding enough weight for hypertrophy is about as difficult as getting your inner pecs bigger without getting seperated pecs(also happens with overwork and under recovery).

>>76587042
>shoulder blades in front of your shoulder joints
Im drunk thats my que for rear delts on pulls, my btb ques are:
>chest and shoulders in front of abs
>elbows above wrists flex, shoulders above elbows
>rotate in like a shrimp and chin in and chest up like a genie
>keep chest abs serratus braced
>chin in
>rotate hands on barbell so its like neutral grip
>upper torso rotated down
>lean back or forward for balance and no weight on impingement/tendons

That and narrow ohp/mp actually grew my delts a ton but it takes a ton more out of you than just dbs/cables/machines while benchmaxxing and you have to do it so fucking often for optimal growth.

>>76587012
>top of rom pulls and ripping apart/twisting
>super heavy and rotate your body to the right
>high volume heavy speed reps

ISHYGDDT

>>76586658
>he doesn't recognize athlean x
Lurk 10 years

>>76581322 (OP)
Post physique

>>76581380
fuck anon, you've convinced me. This is one of the few /fit/ posts that doesn't seem like a schizo ramble or retarded take, and it's arm and shoulder day tomorrow. I've literally never even tried them

>>76586658
he's a 00s-10s era grifter back when you could just claim you know "science" and there was nobody to call you out on it

>>76587426
>everyone should know this youtube grifter by name just by looking at pic of his shirtless torso
do you know how fucked in the head you sound?
I dont sit around all day watching youtube bullshit. I actually leave the house, go the gym etc. Do you even lift?

>>76581322 (OP)
no you didn't and also lat raises are better

>>76588536
You’re either 14 or 74

>>76590914
what's it like knowing that 14 and 74 year olds are out living their lives instead of siting around all day watching "inflooencers" on utube pushing their shitty gimmick workouts for money?
>I'M GONNA INFLOOOOOOENCE!