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Anonymous No.76585392 >>76585936 >>76587506 >>76587792 >>76589055 >>76593102 >>76593215
Fraud, poor little HCG Boy part 5
You bunch of Cheating frauds!

What you on? how does it feel?
Anonymous No.76585402
>estrogen enthanate
>progesterone
>finasteride
Anonymous No.76585496
inject ze microbes
Anonymous No.76585936
>>76585392 (OP)
Cruising on some test, hgh, tadalafil and L-Carnitine
Anonymous No.76586816 >>76588661 >>76589841
There is basically 0 reason not to roid

I don't understand people who do not want to increase their performance

All this crying over baseball players roiding while putting up the best performances of all time
Anonymous No.76587267
I like ment+sarms with a small test base
Anonymous No.76587271 >>76587588 >>76588342
Is .7ml too much to be injecting per shot into my delt? Using a 1/2" 27ga needle my PIP is usually 3-4 days and I get a bit of redness and bruising. No pain during injection though

Gonna try VG but not sure if I should still be using a half inch for that
Anonymous No.76587490
inject ze bacteria
Anonymous No.76587506
>>76585392 (OP)
Right now only trt and 2iu gh and healing peptides.
Ruptured my achillies while on masterone so I am never touching that shit again.
Felt fucking great on it though, gains are awesome but not worth being horrifically injured obviously.
Anonymous No.76587561
Just watched a video about steroids in baseball and when Mcguire takes his shirt off in the locker room for an interview and you see his back and triceps he looks like he's a bodybuilder

How much shit were they actually taking because weight training was unpopular at the time but mcguire and Sosa basically looked like gym bros

Maybe they did lift more than other players but they were significantly more massive, hyper responders or just way more test than has been reported
Anonymous No.76587588 >>76587614 >>76588347
>>76587271
i do 2ML in my delts
Anonymous No.76587593
>doesnt add the forward slashes
shit thread
Anonymous No.76587614
>>76587588
What size needle?
Anonymous No.76587644 >>76587727 >>76587740 >>76587797 >>76589667 >>76590501
I will never understand feeling ok with yourself knowing you cheated to get there. Then again, there's people alive like keir and soros.
Does blasting fill the hole in your soul torn away by all the self hatred? Or is it all temporary relief coupled with body dysmorphia?
What makes you want to inject substances into your body in the first place?
Maybe it's just some inadequacy from childhood? Maybe you look at it like simply smoking a cigarette? Idk
Anonymous No.76587694 >>76587769 >>76587837
inject ze heavy metals
Anonymous No.76587727 >>76589638
>>76587644
If you could take something to be superhuman for atleast a few months per year, why would you not do it

I believe there is more self hatred in the natty mindset, you never allow yourself to experience the greatest power you can get
Anonymous No.76587740 >>76589638
>>76587644
You have a small child’s sense of fairness. I am not even a big fan of roiding I think the risk/reward ratio only makes sense if you are some kind of loser but lol there is no such thing as cheating
Anonymous No.76587751
The natty seethe, it's making me so hard
I'm gonna cum
Best part of these threads
Anonymous No.76587769 >>76588878
>>76587694
No one tell this retard about hplc.
Anonymous No.76587792
>>76585392 (OP)
going to probably be ordering some HCG (yes, I know, it's not a steroid) and some NPP quite soon. Kind of want to see if nand is right for me as test makes me feel off even at low doses.
Anonymous No.76587797 >>76589638
>>76587644
I don't care about cheating, I want to look better naked than I could while lifting natty.
Anonymous No.76587837
>>76587694
lmao
Anonymous No.76587847
I blasted 300mg test for 3 years then 200mg for 1 year and now 175mg for 1 year.
I don't want kids. How would HCG assist me?
Anonymous No.76587889
>>76580818
Anyone?
Anonymous No.76587950 >>76588267 >>76588324
How likely is a bad test result from labcorp? I took an ultra-sensitive E2 and got 7, but I took it cause I had high e2 symptoms. Did some stuff to raise it like a little Dbol and a big test injection (300 mg) and eventually felt a little better for all of 2-3 days. Took another test and didn’t want to take an AI until I knew for sure if it was high or low, but it’s been 9 fkng days and still waiting on result. Stopped waiting, have taken 1 mg adex total past 3 days, and the emotional sides got way worse. Convinced myself I’m in love with a hooker I’m friendly with and been inconsolable all day over imaginary scenarios of her OD’ing. Zero history of something like this wtf is going on.
Anonymous No.76588267 >>76588324
>>76587950
yeah you crashed your shit, low/high E2 have interchangeable symptoms in a lot of guys. Just ride it out, go easy on the AIs next time.
Anonymous No.76588324 >>76588537
>>76587950
Like this anon said >>76588267
High E2 and low E2 have interchangeable symptoms between people since it's genetic. A lot of high E2 symptoms I get when my E2 is low and vice versa. Really you can land on the fact that if you're getting sides, then it's either crashed or too high. Over time, you will then find what specific ones are to you. For example, I get extremely tired and lethargic when I am high E2 (where as some it's low E2).

Being bloated/holding onto water and gyno are probably the only sides you can usually confidently land on that your E2 is too high, and achy joints are probably the only one you can confidently land on being E2 is too low in my experience and reading regardless of genetics.

Stop taking AIs for awhile and maybe pin some more test for a little. Good luck anon.
Anonymous No.76588342
>>76587271
Generally no but individual response is everything. For VG I highly recommend getting 1” needles or you will accidentally inject subQ and likely get a painful lump. You can get 25 gauge that aren’t much bigger than 27 for the 1” needles
Anonymous No.76588347 >>76588526
>>76587588
Dont listen to this guy 2ml is way too much for delts unless you’re 240lbs of muscle
Anonymous No.76588526
>>76588347
If it leaks out use a longer needle.
Anonymous No.76588537 >>76588563
>>76588324
Thing is the low number never made sense. I was on 500 test 200 eq and feeling like shit. I didn’t even use any AI until I got tired of waiting on labcorp. Plus, the emotional sides aren’t interchangeable are they? I thought no e2 made you a zombie. I think ima just cut out the eq this would be a lot easier if I didn’t have to wait 2 fkng weeks for a sensitive E2 test. The regular one is like 3 days turnaround
Anonymous No.76588563
>>76588537
Are you retarded? EQ can crash your E2, just like Primo. What were your other hormone blood markers? The emotional sides are clearly there with low E2 just by how bitchy you type dude

>Plus, the emotional sides aren’t interchangeable are they? I thought no e2 made you a zombie. I think ima just cut out the eq this would be a lot easier if I didn’t have to wait 2 fkng weeks for a sensitive E2 test

Lmao
Anonymous No.76588565 >>76588670
SO you faggots really think raloxifene is useless? It seems like the perfect drug that specifically prevents you from getting gyno without risking an actual estrogen crash. I think you guys are old boomers stuck in your ways or something
Anonymous No.76588630
I'm going to take 60mg test and 50mg deca for life as soon as my blood work results come back in October.
Anonymous No.76588661
>>76586816
most people have no business roiding. Just look at the retards here
Anonymous No.76588670
>>76588565
raloxifene is almost useless in the presence of estradiol, it only works when estradiol is very low to begin with
best thing to do is combine raloxifene with an AI to reverse gyno
Anonymous No.76588679 >>76588680 >>76593065 >>76593353
DO NOT inject 1 gram of test and 600mg primo right before bed.
Holy shit its like meth.
First I notice my heart pounding then feel it in my head which is a sign that my bp is at least 150. Just laid there wide awake wondering what's going then I realized it was the pin. Got about 3 hours of sleep the whole night lol.
4 weeks into blasting 2 grams test and as much primo as I can take without getting low E2.
I'm adding 5 lbs to my bench every session, so 10lbs a week.
Anonymous No.76588680
>>76588679
using enanthate btw
Anonymous No.76588878 >>76589041
>>76587769
>he trusts labs from an illegal drug seller
>dry labs at best
sucker born every minute
now inject ze paramecium
Anonymous No.76589041 >>76589053
>>76588878
Inject my cum into your faghole bitchboy. I rape twinks like you in the locker room showers for breakfast
Anonymous No.76589053
>>76589041
just hope there's not another pandemic cupcake
Anonymous No.76589055
>>76585392 (OP)
Living in Australia
Can't find a source
I go to the gym at 2am so there's no jacked gymbro in the bathroom selling test-e
Anonymous No.76589090 >>76589594 >>76593065
Any benefit to taking HGH on rest days above like 3-4 IU?
Is it better to up to HGH after hard workout days?

Does anyone adjust their growth dosage day to day or just keep the same?
Anonymous No.76589126 >>76593065
inject ze toxins
Anonymous No.76589572 >>76590632
Not roiding is like playing an rpg and never drinking a potion
Anonymous No.76589594
>>76589090
pretty sure you want to maintain levels, I don't think people up their dose based upon the day.

Some people will mess with their doses when they're in a health phase vs a growth phase.
Example health phase 2-4iu's
Growth phase 8-10ius
Anonymous No.76589638 >>76590120 >>76590429
>>76587727
Sure. You can go outside and eat a fistful of dirt and no one can tell you otherwise, freedums n murica n sheeeit.
You can be a super hero without that. Ex: my 15 year old kid still thinks I'm their hero, so thats just a cope to make yourself feel more adequate. A very childish way to look at your adult body.
>>76587740
And you have the typical adults callousness that would lead you to destroy yourself by corporate means. Good job fucking faggot. How many times have you watched wolf of wall Street? (Please don't answer this, it's rhetorical shit talking to you)
>>76587797
So, body dysmorphia it is then


Welp, considering that three posts aren't the same anon, you fuckin retards are cooked and roidtrannies obviously hate yourselves in the mirror like a fucking woman raised by a single whore mother. You guys are fucked. Please reconcile with yourself.
Anonymous No.76589667 >>76589813
>>76587644
this is dyel cope lol
it's always the people that look like absolute shit that are critical of actual /fit/ people that want to push limits
Anonymous No.76589813
>>76589667
There's a very good and real chance that I could power clean and press your body and also outrun you. E-pissing contest is ever constant. You're just impatient and weird.
Just because you can doesn't mean you're super cool you did. Most women will look at you in disgust and you can't compare yourself to other men now because you're a synthetic blasting freak. You can like to others about your fake natty status, but the lies will be with you when you sleep. You didn't earn shit and are in fact a bigger pussy than a typical roidtranny.
Doesn't matter if you stack 20lb a muscle in a year because of gear. You'll just lose it when you stop going to the gym and your nuts shrivel leaving you will single digit free test numbers.
But yeah, coping so hard because I don't wanna inject Chinese bathtub juice into my body that was made for bovine muscle growth.
Anonymous No.76589841 >>76590415
>>76586816
>increase their performance
performance in what? I do not care about performance for performamce sake. Also my self worth is not tied to performance in such a large degree as it seems to be for you
Anonymous No.76590120 >>76590239
>>76589638
>t. proud of his inability to look good
Anonymous No.76590225 >>76593065
Does anyone know a rule of thumb or just the proper way to think about HCG in terms of a TRT cruise dose?

Like lets say you want to do 150mg of test plus 50 IU of HCG a week. Is that going to be roughly equivalent to 200 mg of test a week? Or 250? Can you add your natty test level to your expected blood concentration from 150 and say that will probably be your new level? Or is the shit just an impossible chaotic system and its so hard to predict that there is no rule of thumb?
Anonymous No.76590239
>>76590120
Yesterday a co worker said I was getting bigger
This morning a lady said I was very handsome
Your fucked up brain can't comprehend your own body dysmorphia kek
Anonymous No.76590415
>>76589841
Performance in literally every area of life if you have basic anger management skills, fitness, health, motivation, etc etc
Anonymous No.76590429 >>76590890
>>76589638
You 15 year old son can't accurately determine heroism because he is emotionally attached to you

If you left to get milk and never came back he would still love you

You could be more heroic than you currently are
Anonymous No.76590501 >>76590890 >>76593065
>>76587644
It feels worse to get old and seeing your progress stall despite having diet, exercise, and sleep dialed in. Been on 250mg test/week and 6iu GH/day for 4 weeks now and I've lost fat, and gained more size and strength than I did in the 18 months before that. I don't feel like I need a nap every afternoon now.
Yeah I want to look good, but mainly I just don't want to feel old. Why not make myself feel like I'm in my 20's again?
Anonymous No.76590558
6 months ago:
https://youtu.be/C8B_XxkXg-w (shirtless about 3 minutes in)
Now:
https://youtube.com/v/781GWeAL5qA
Achievable natty (not even TRT) in this timeframe?
Anonymous No.76590632 >>76591058
>>76589572
>plus 30 points strength
>plus 10 points charisma with the opposite sex
>5% chance of death from heart failure
>random chance of sexual encounter with a transsexual
Anonymous No.76590665 >>76590890 >>76590893
>36 going on 37
>married to 8/10 wife
>575 squat, 350 bench, 585 DL
>natty my whole life

Is it time to gear up boys? What's a good first cycle? Should I just get a doctor to give me TrT?
Anonymous No.76590890 >>76590963 >>76591058 >>76591326
>>76590429
Sorry your dad was a piece of shit and your mom is a whore
>>76590501
Hmm I get this sentiment. Then again I want a 12inch dick but I'm not getting dick surgery lmao you are what you are and you aren't what you aren't. I may consider this when I hit the wall if I do. I won't judge you for that as long as you're healthy.
>>76590665
Good numbers, but no. Maybe stem cell healing therapy for your fucked knees, elbows, wrists, shoulders, ankles, back, neck if anything.
Anonymous No.76590893 >>76590985
>>76590665
>time to gear up
Only you can say, but sounds like you're doing well already from what seems like a humble brag post
>first cycle
500mg test for 20 weeks, r/steroids wiki is unironically decent for newb questions and research
>trt
Don't bother unless you are low t already
Anonymous No.76590963
>>76590890
Shut up wimp, no one's talking to you
Anonymous No.76590985 >>76591080
>>76590893
Well I guess the questions is am I close enough to my natty potential / inevitable drop in test and strength for gear to be a reasonable option?

I don't need it to get bitches or get strong is the point. But I would love to start throwing some video game numbers up
Anonymous No.76590994 >>76591036
Anyone else getting insane cramps since hopping on? I can't even stretch in the morning because as soon as i move my arms to the sides my pecs contract like crazy. I drink plenty of water maybe I'm missing electrolytes or something?
Anonymous No.76591036 >>76591114
>>76590994
Taurine, potassium and magnesium are typically the ones that fix it and/or that people forget about
Everyone seems to only think about sodium for electrolytes
Add to that gear can make you deficient in potassium/magnesium
Taurine is specifically good if you are taking anavar too
Anonymous No.76591058
>>76590632
Based
>>76590890
My dad was a homosexual piece of shit but my mom is very chaste honestly
Anonymous No.76591080
>>76590985
How often are you adding weight?
Is that rate okay with you?
Are you willing to spend time and money to make it faster possibly at the cost of health if done incorrectly or too quickly?
I got my initial t tested at 38 and it was 280, started trt at 42 for about 6 months then just said fuck it and started blast and cruising
All that shit is highly individual as is your ability to tolerate gear
That's why I said you have to answer that question for yourself
Go read about it at the very least then you'll be better equipped to make that choice

tldr just pin some test, faggot
Anonymous No.76591114 >>76591646
>>76591036
I am already taking magnesium and taurine for sleep and no effect, I guess potassium is the missing one. Isn't there a risk with potassium that it'll stop your heart etc?
Anonymous No.76591119 >>76593082
Deca
Test primo mast blend
Ment
Proviron
10-20iu hgh
Anonymous No.76591326
>>76590890
It's worse than just hitting a wall. when I jumped on t, the amount I needed to eat to not lose muscle was just making me fat and I wasn't making any gains. I would bulk slowly, maybe gaining .25 lbs a week but it was all fat at the end of the day. If I ate less, I lost strength. Then when it was time to cut, I would lose a bit of muscle every time. It was literal negative progress. I Could deal with that for a while but when my energy and libido took a shit, it was time to make a change
My lipids are actually better than before since I am not having to eat so much to make gains. A1c is down, fasting glucose is down, and all my liver, kidney, and inflammation markers are the same. I'm not saying go stick a needle in yourself for the rest of your life, just that there is no reason for anyone to feel old bc of low t symptoms. It's not going to affect your health negatively if you are already living a healthy life
Anonymous No.76591379 >>76591720
So how do you properly choose and dial in your arimidex dose without crashing estrogen?

And why do i never see any useful information like this in this thread. Its always just seething natties and roiders talking shit. Hardly anything constructive
Anonymous No.76591394
inject ze microplastics
Anonymous No.76591636
Are peptide sources allowed? What’s a good US peptide site I don’t wanna wait 3 months
Anonymous No.76591646
>>76591114
Don't take enough to stop your heart?
Or do i guess, sounds not so bad
Anonymous No.76591720 >>76591805
>>76591379
It gets easier when you realise youre not chasing a specific e2 number

You’re chasing ‘no high e2 symptoms’

If you’re total test is 3000, free test is 600, and you’re e2 is 100 … but you have no symptoms, no itchy nips, no bloat, no ED… then there is no reason to take Ai… high e2 has benefits until it has symptoms, and it works in balance with the high test so typically you can tolerate much higher e2 when your test is higher.

So say you’re getting the high e2 symptoms, you’d start with one singular low dose of ai and see if it helps over the next 3 days (a dose like 0.25 or 0.5 arimidex, or 6.25mg or 12.5mg aromasin)

Then, presuming it helped… wait until those symptoms return…

If they return 7 days later, you know you need to take your dose again. And then if you want to make the ride a bit smoother, you take that dose and divide it up more frequently. Say you found out you need to take 0.5mg arimidex every 7 days to avoid symptoms returning… then you could decide to take 0.25mg every 3 or 3.5 days to achieve the same dose. This way you’re just keeping the symptoms at bay and not crashing your e2

You might have symptoms at 90 e2, but not at 70 e2, half an arimidex a week split in two might get you there…but don’t then look at the blood test and see that you’re at 70 and somehow decide you need it to be 30, if you feel fine at 70 you feel fine

On 500 test I think you’ll find that 0.5 arimidex 2x a week or 12.5mg aromasin 2x a week should not crash you,
Anonymous No.76591805 >>76591851
>>76591720
>Then, presuming it helped… wait until those symptoms return…
You can expect 24 hours later for the AI to have done its job and increase the dose if symptoms have not gone away? Or would you give it more or less time?

Thanks for the guide I will screen shot this
Anonymous No.76591851
>>76591805
Yes it should help a little after 24 I would think, but I’d give it a few days before you make a decision on taking more.

At the end of the day, high e2 symptoms might feel like shit while you get it sorted out, but you’re not going to get gyno overnight… if your nips are itchy or whatever then you’ve spotted the symptoms of high e2 nice and early and you can start figuring it out. But you can take the bloat and a bit of ED, it’s not the end of the world while you find a dose that works

Do your research into arimidex vs aromasin though, similar results but a different mode of action, it seems the, aromasin can definitely work effectively for longer periods of time inbetween doses than arimidex.

Also consider your test injection schedule… 500mg a week in two injections every 3.5 days is a massive bolus of test, 250mg entering the blood is going to cause higher rates of aromatization than if you split the 500mg every other day, 140mg EOD is still 500 a week but gives much more stable blood levels and should help with e2 levels also
Anonymous No.76591913
Anonymous No.76592594
Anyone go from being a bitch about needles to actually enjoying the process of pinning?

It's not so much the pain, in fact the most satisfying pins for me are the clean painless ones, but the ritual and kinda just raw aspect of it is fun.

Thank god I never tried IV heroin as a kid or I would have been fucked
Anonymous No.76592600
Ligandrol is literally anavar except it is not liver toxic, doesn't fuck with the prostate, is not an illegal drug and might have unknown mystery side effects due to being new.

Kind of starting to get the hype with sarms after reading up.
Anonymous No.76592792 >>76592984
>hear that enclo can give you gyno
>read that none of the findings are conclusive
If it IS true and I get tiddies, how do I reverse it?
Anonymous No.76592984
>>76592792
I would think it’s extremely unlikely to give you gyno even if you are pretty fat. Maybe if you combine it with finasteride or something it would give you gyno.

I think enclomephebe is a fools gold compound. It will raise your T but it fucks with IGF-1 and SHBG in such ways that you don’t get the main benefits you want from high T which is nonstop gains and boners.

Anyway if you get gyno signs just stop taking the shit. Maybe take an OTC supplement like DIM you can buy off Amazon for nothing. I assume that would be up your alley.
Anonymous No.76593013 >>76593061
What is the best strategy to 'feel more testosterone-y' given the following natty bloodwork:

>Test 800 ng/dl
>Free Test 140 pg/ml
>FSH 2 miu/ml
>LH 3 miu/ml
>Estradiol 20 pg/ml

I am 37 and these have pretty much been the readings for the past 15 years. Test always on the higher side of normal and FSH/LH on the lower end. But I still have near nonexistent libido, endurance, sense of confidence or wellbeing, can't put on or keep muscle, none of the testosteroney things. Basically just a skinnyfat loser hikkineet. Do I just slam T? Do I take HCG? AIs? Do I have to do something to boost the androgen receptors in my brain? I clearly am not hypogonadal, it seems like if anything my hpta is throttling the balls because it's reading too much T/estrogen already.
Anonymous No.76593061
>>76593013
get tested for androgen insensitivity syndrome
Anonymous No.76593065
>>76588679
what in the fuck? hahaha! damn, i bet. why don't you pin ed?
>>76589090
what other anon said. pin same iu ed
>>76589126
the joys of indian pharma
>>76590225
no rule of thumb. pin it, and see
my sister in law said i look intimidating
>>76590501
same. pct'd for surgery, and i'm hating going back to natty. cant sleep worth a shit anymore
Anonymous No.76593082
>>76591119
why so much hgh without slin? hittin 20iu i'd think you'd be takin advantage
Anonymous No.76593102 >>76593121
>>76585392 (OP)
Does anyone know if the cow eartags seep much into non organic or whatever beef? Im always skeptical of cuts of meat where the individualfibers are way too big, and apparantly the ranchers inject and put more eartags in(dissolvable by cartilidge/smooth muscle fibers and if they use orals is anyones guess) mostly right before slaughter to save money. I guess you could also tell if rougher cuts are especially tough since id guess smooth muscle fibers just expand more in size. Apparantly gh is only injectable like tren/test which is mostly what they give cows AND if anything would reduce the actual amount of overall testosterone in muscle(speculation).

One time i ate a bunch of fast food for a week to see if i gained more size and i honestly didnt gain much noticeable size or feel any different.
Anonymous No.76593121
>>76593102
Im not quitting beef but i know its apparantly normal to get injectables to 170f or something so it mixes with the oil or something which is why injecting into legs makes it look like synthol. And orals apparantly have a much higher temp before the compounds are desteoyed, however this apparantly can cause toxic substances to form and causes necrotic tissue like krokodil or fucked up veins and reactions that cause organ damage retardation etc.

I wanted to see if any roiders more well versed on the subject were aware of if eating red meat consistently is the cause for my gains or if i have to slow cook to internal temp of 200+ for a while and have to skip out on steaks and go for slow cooked/organic only and miss out on vitamins and shit.
IL4DD !!02UJNZs2qnG No.76593215
>>76585392 (OP)
500mg test e + 5iu HGH + 80mg epistane
Anonymous No.76593353
>>76588679
why are you injecting once a week? you retarded monkey