Thread 76588012

you don’t need to hit failure to maximise hypertrophy

If you want to look like him, follow his advice i guess

Viciously ugly
Sage

Mike Mentzer was right about Mike Israel.

>>76588012 (OP)
Yes you do

jesus christ lmao he is transforming into a goblin

>>76588012 (OP)
Why would anyone listen to some dysgenic goblin who has spent his entire life lifting and yet struggles to bench 240 for 2 reps?
I, just a random natty, not even fully done with my noob gains, can do sets 3-4 of ~250lbs (115kg) for 8 reps and I've been lifting for a year and half. With breaks.
It's insane to me.

i don't listen to the advice of people i don't want to look like

I still have not one idea why going to failure is more fatiguing than if you left 1 rep in the tank. It just sounds like total bullshit.

Can someone tell me scientifically why?

Yeah, and that's why he gets completely mogged by natural lifters who do.

>>76588131
its not so much about going to failure specifically as the concept of "effective reps" ie the ones where you have to grind out the rep and the bar speed begins to slow

by going to failure you ensure that you're getting as many of those effective reps as possible rather than working back through a bunch of easy reps at the beginning of a set when your muscles are totally recovered

basically pic related

>>76588012 (OP)
>massive bloated roid gut hangs down so low he needs to use a cambered bar for rows

mike israetel is an irl great unclean one

>>76588165
>That gut
How do I NOT develop this ever? What should I do/not do? I'll follow advice religiously so this never happens

>>76588012 (OP)
Roid tranny subhuman cope

>>76588179
Avoid hgh. It’s hgh gut

>>76588179
Dont take HGH
Dont binge eat and bulk to retarded extents
Learn to tense up your core/brace and breath properly during exercise
Avoid machines as much as possible and dont train like a daffodil
Do actual sports not just vanity hypertrophy lifting

>>76588198
Also avoid salt and sugar which bloats the gut even more

>>76588194
>>76588198
its not fucking hgh enlarging organs retards. You can see a bunch of ex bodybuilders losing their guts when they get off the gear. Organ enlargment doesnt reverse like that

>>76588131
it just follows common logic no? If you train less exhaustively you're going to be less exhausted. the point is you're better off training at 95% forever while making progress than 100% and burning out after a few weeks. It makes a difference if your recovery isn't perfect bc of work, social life, etc.

if your bf is above 12% i do not listen to anything you say, simple as
if your ffmi is above 23 i do not listen to anything you say, simple as

>>76588221
Name one.

>>76588179
Remove carbs from your diet.
That guy is visceral fat.
Visceral fat is made from the carbs you eat

>>76588012 (OP)
Mike Israetel's physique looks like the roids are genuinely doing 95% of the work. That's how shitty his training is.

>>76588131
It isn't, the point is that going to absolute failure you're entirely certain you hit your effective reps. If you leave some in the tank you can overestimate your own fatigue and possibly have way more in there than you thought. It isn't necessary to go to total failure every time if you have a good grasp of yourself and your program but someone who blasts as many PEDs as Dr. Israel does but still looks like he does absolutely should not be giving advice to "go easier".

>>76588165
>Glutos Orscollion in the flesh
Dios mio sigmar preserve us

>>76588012 (OP)
>posts kike who hasn't even come close to maximizing hypertrophy in spite of extremely large doses
>>76588165
>does rows exclusively for the erectors
Literally his only good muscle group. He has quite a mediocre back for someone who wants to be pro. Literally no definition anywhere thanks to him prioritizing the extreme rom he mistakenly believes will get him more stretch while neglecting the squeeze which gets all the definition. Literally a quarter of the rom where he gets the "stretch" for him is just him allowing his torso into flexion to get more rom even though his lats and upper back don't get anything else from that rom. Whereas Dorian Yates avoiding most of that had one of the best backs to ever have been on an Olympia stage. None of that shit Kike does.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNjwZ1fxtCQ&
>>76588179
One of the reasons is that he's in pec pattern because of how he moves on every motion. This pushes out his gut even more which makes it look even worse. If he swallowed his retarded ego and went to a physical therapist who knows how to address these movement patterns and then actually took the advice of the bodybuilding coaches who dropped him, he probably would have done much better.

>>76588635
It’s less his training (in terms of principles and effort) and more genetics and poor muscle group prioritization. If I were him I’d immediately put everything on maintenance except for arms, pecs, and shoulders. Too many guys are afraid to pause muscle groups but if you don’t and your arms are weak as fuck you will always, I mean ALWAYS look weird. Arms, shoulders, chest, by far the most important and need to be the highlight of your physique to look remotely decent.

yeah you just need to take roids and be a manlet

>>76588012 (OP)
> Jewish
> has a dollar sign tattoo
Lmao

>>76588131
It gets more taxing because going close to failure means you can spend less resources on correcting technique and perfecting it. Instead you're fighting against the weight. It can stress tendons, you can have form breakdown it increases injury rates. You can also do a lot less sets and reps in general if you take a set to failure or close to it. One very intense set of squats or deadlifts can make you feel tired for at least 3 days. For roiders its even less beneficial to take sets close to failure as the development of skeletal muscle often outpaces tendon strength. This makes roiders more injury prone as they will push to weights that their tendons and ligaments struggle with.

>>76588066
> 115kg 4x8
> projected 1RM at 150-160kg
> 1 year and a half with many breaks
At least keep it realistic anon.

As for why mr Israel benches so little no clue. It's especially weird since years ago he translated Sheiko's book which was powerlifting themed (high volume). You might think he would be interested in strength development considering he painstakingly translated 100s of pages for little financial gain.

>>76588066
Why lie on the internet?

I say this without cruel intent, but he legitimately could have been part of the Delray Misfits.

>>76588012 (OP)
True, but you still need to know where it is. Because all your work has to be x-away from it to have a consistent effect you can scale your routine off of. I can think of no simpler and more reliable way of finding it than just going there once in a while.

>>76588697
ok but how do i get big legs without squatting close to failure?
>inb4 10 different machine exercises

>>76588752
Leg press, you just just adjust your foot posistion on the plate to target diffent parts of the legs and glutes.

>>76588622
>remove carbs
Then how do you have enough energy for your workouts?

>>76588687
Remove your hate and prejudices from your heart anon.

>>76588752
You squat with more volume rather than close to failure. Instead of 3 sets of 5 @ 80% you would find it easier to do 5 sets of 3. This way you have an easier time going every other day to the gym / 4 days a week and you can handle more volume and frequency.

>>76588697
>As for why mr Israel benches so little no clue. It's especially weird since years ago he translated Sheiko's book which was powerlifting themed (high volume). You might think he would be interested in strength development considering he painstakingly translated 100s of pages for little financial gain.
Mike used to bench close to 400 lbs for reps. He's definitely 'throwing' the competition to make his guests look good.

can't believe you 4chan autists can't see that

>>76588194
>hgh
Kek

>>76588012 (OP)
i do 1 lift per day comprised of 1 set 10% of 1rm and leave 90% in the tank

>>76588018
Well he never reaches failure, so OP is right for once.

>>76588165
A quarter century of training, his entire life revolves around lifting, he's taken so many steroids and testosterone injections they entirely eroded his neurochemistry and have certainly enlarged his heart and this is how much he rows?!

why is every popular science fitness youtuber under 6ft tall?

>listening to kike israel
not even once

success breeds jealousy

>>76588677
He doesn't put in effort though.

>>76589722
it doesn't take a lot of effort to build muscle, especially with steroids.

You are just now learning that genetics are pretty much everything, It really doesn't matter how much effort you put in the gym in terms of aesthetics. There's a reason why an absolute minimum of exercise is required for health purposes, and that's because it's very easy to acquire the benefits of exercise, the problem with growing muscle is how much you have when you start, and that's where genetics come into play.

>>76588221
No one said it's organs being enlarged

>>76589745
Most people go through the motions and get minimal results. It's mental genetics; no pain no gain.

>>76589783
if you are feeling pain while lifting, you are doing it wrong.

>>76589783
most people do too much of retarded stuff that get's them injured and they get no results
>>76589789
true bot :D 100% TRU

>>76589047
Mike Israel looks like utter shit.

>>76588194
>>76588221
His diet advice is fucking retarded (eat shittons of metamucil because it's got a low glycemic index). Just eat normally and you'll probably be ok.

>>76589066
Back when he was doing powerlifting with decent form he was doing more weight for rows
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99nu3TywFdQ
He's just running gimmicks and pretending that getting more movement in your spine to go deeper somehow gets you a bigger stretch. And on top of that, somehow a bigger stretch for a lot of volume means you don't have to use any weight or train with any intensity.

>>76589818
I don't know what his problem is. Dips are the best chest exercise. You just have to ignore the meme Mentzer put into his magazine articles about going too deep. Probably a combination of extreme depth and bad dip form that leads to the problem. You really have to pay attention to how your shoulders move in dips and if they move too much, that's where you get the problems. Gotta keep the shoulder joint as tight as possible and if you're too weak for that, it's best to do a different exercise while working on shoulder stability.

>>76589745
The point, you gibbering retard, is that he puts in so little effort he looks like shit even on roids.