Thread 76592177

Eat more meat.

>>76592177 (OP)
Cool, he's on steroids

>>76592177 (OP)
Roids

>>76592177 (OP)
Does big black meat count? I'm a woman btw

>>76592177 (OP)
Wheres that pic of the asian girl with an arnold chest

>>76592177 (OP)
>oh yeah also take TRT

>>76592177 (OP)
You didn’t follow his step 7 OP

>>76592248
You know you need to have more muscke as a roider to be the same strength right?

It might be a byproduct of they cant lift as heavy due to tendon injury but still the kuscle deflates without consistent high test so its more like getting huge from a pump and carb/water/salt/creatine then it deflates and youre stronger.

>>76592200
Came to say this. He failed to mention TRT or HGH or whatever else hes on.

>>76592177 (OP)
>fiber is not necessary

>>76592200
>>76592177 (OP)
>>76592237
>>76592247
>"No bretheren, Im all natty, I just eat a lot of chicken and eggs"

>>76592276
>>76592268
>>76592247
>>76592200
or maybe its:
>eating 3500 calories a day
>eating 300g+ of protein a day
>lifting weights consistently for 40 years

>>76592290
Maybe

There is this carnivore diet guru called Shawn Baker (male, 50's, claims has been on that diet for a few years) who has tested & released his testosterone level results for the public twice, and they are very low for his age. Found a thread on it where I'm taking these claims from:

I see that Shawn Baker had his testosterone levels checked while on Carnivore and they were very low (he had two tests done, one was at the very bottom of "normal" and the other was below range (hypogonadal). He felt fine, however, and hypothesized that his testosterone receptors had become more sensitive.

and another:

I think Baker has also explained, it's not just about the amount of free testosterone in your blood that matters. But about how much of it your body can actually use. Which depends on the amount of receptors you have for it.

Basically his claim is something like people on zerocarb who have low testosterone actually don't have low testosterone, increase in receptors/sensitivity just clears it out so quickly from bloodstream it can't be reliably measured, making it a non-issue. If I'm understanding what they are saying correctly.

So the initial questions requiring sources then are:

What is this mechanism caused by zerocarb diet that increases testosterone receptors?

How much has been measured this mechanism actually affects bioavailable testosterone levels?

How does it make low bioavailable testosterone levels a non-issue?

Thanks!

>>76592177 (OP)
Based
I'm on it
Hard because mom keeps buying carbs and I give in so I'm keto for now
And carb trannies seethe cope a d dementia

>>76592177 (OP)
I eat as much meat as possible.

Meat extends lifespan. The more you eat the longer you live.

Carbs kill.

>>76592358
>muh blood tests

>>76592200
>>76592237
>>76592247
>>76592268
>EVERY MUSCLEY MAN IS ON ROIDS!!
Post body.

>>76592177 (OP)
>not showing his legs
>overdeveloped traps and underdeveloped lats
>no blood tests shown
>Not disclosing what drugs he's on
>Looks more like a skinwalker than a person with his face and skin.

>>76592177 (OP)
>this roidtroon proves my scam diet true!
shift + click to hide threads btw

Vegans think everyone with muscle is on steroids because vegans can't build muscle without steroids.

>>76592275
If you're eating nothing but meat and fat I'm pretty sure it all just runs out desu

>>76592372
Based.

>>76592177 (OP)
I would never take advice from someone named "Shawn".

>>76592372
there are many questions, for example which meats? how much? Meat is more expensive and richer people live longer so how was that factored in? What kind of carb crops and in what form? What about diseases as well since poorer people who can't afford as much meat also have issues with hygiene such as india.

>>76592916
And also how many people were included per region and which regions of which countries? South Africa is vastly different from North Africa.

>>76592827
that's because you're brown

>>76592290
Hes diabetic and has really low test
Sorry I'm not gunna eat his meme diet or buy his supplements

>>76592177 (OP)
I'm on carnivore and it destroys my anus

Fit has been around for 20 years and still can't understand who's a roider.

>>76592177 (OP)
Is it true that I can get most off my energy from fats instead of carbs? Do they fill glycogen stores? That would be so much easier.

Recovery is the most important factor according to my own findings. From 14 to almost 28 I slept so bad. 3-4 hours a night, waking up 10 times a night on average. Kept lifting through this from 18-28. Slow gains, always feel terrible, injuries for no reason. It was especially noticable from 18-21 because I worked out a lot, ate good and lived healthy in every aspect but sleep. 21-28 I drank so much that my slow gains can be excused on alcohol instead of shit sleep (although it's affected by both). I now live like an 80 year old. I go to bed at 8, don't drink, get up at 5 am and cut off food at around noon.
My sleep has majorly improved and I get 7-8 only waking up once or twice on average now. I can see changes in my body (less pudgy in my stomach area for example) that are positive even with working out less now. Food is still good.

>>76593799
Yes, however it's not that simple. Your body has a process by which it turns pure fats into glycogen and regulates your blood sugar to normal levels during periods of low carb availability, but if you aren't used to it and have never done keto you will feel like absolute shit for the first week.
And if you care about athletic performance it will take your body anywhere from 1-3 months to fully adapt to low carb and have equal performance to when you were eating carbs. There's also other changes to your body because of how fat oxidation works, personally I enjoy low carb because I don't feel like bloated shit after every meal (you have to experience this to understand it) and it makes cooking easier.

>>76593737
the results are from 1/17/2018, and he said he started about 7 years ago. may be this is why he started? you shud pay attention to details before jumping the gun. he's not dumber than you.

>>76593822
how is your pump during workout? i did keto during my undergrad years, but the pump was never good despite having enough energy to do high intensity & volume lifting for 2 hrs.

Why does it make the browns on /fit/ seethe so much when a 60 year old white dude that mogs them in every conceivable way tell them to eat a steak?

>>76592177 (OP)
>vegetables are over-rated and fiber is not necessary

Cool, enjoy crippling constipation and intestinal problems later in life, dumbass. Maybe instead of flirting with fad diets, just eating minimal processed shit and working out will help.

>>76593952
>telling the 60 year old that's been on carnivore for a decade... that he's going to get constipation any day now
pretty sure if that was going to happen it would've already

>>76593952
>eating more waste makes me shit more
the genius of science, the only acceptable fiber is pectin fiber

>>76592372
>Meat extends lifespan. The more you eat the longer you live.
I hope so. I love meat. Been my favorite food since I was an infant.
I don't feel like I'm aging any slower than anyone else though.

>>76593000
No, it's because I'm white and not from a trailer park. Sean is a perfectly acceptable name, "Shawn" is not.

>>76592177 (OP)
>11. Get your daily TRT

>>76593902
anon are you actually seriously considering his 'my test receptors are more sensitive' story?
steroids lower your natural testosterone and give you diabetes lol.
so. you know. him having 'low test for his age' and diabetes is consistent with steroid use. it's hilarious he posted the lab results.

>>76593902
you were really good. you had me for a second. no the whole thread is trolling. you had just enough misdirection to convince my >>76594162
gullible dumb ass. well played.

>>76593822
This seems like the way to go, I get bloated as well. On a macro calculator I was given 400carbs as my “low carb” regimen and I can’t possibly believe that to be the truth.

Do retards really believe he's natty or is it just ragebait?

>>76594267
Sadly both and it’s working as rage bait apparently

>>76594267
He is definitely natty. You can tell by his physical appearance. He isn't lean enough to be on steroids and he doesn't have boulder shoulders.

Also his blood tests show low or normal testosterone. People who inject testosterone show high testosterone on blood tests.

There's genuinely no reason to accuse him of not being natty other than being an upset vegan.

>>76592358
he did the blood test off cycle

>>76593822
What’s the minimal amount of carbs I need to eat so that my body doesn’t use protein for glycogen ?

>>76594335
The body uses fat to create glycogen.

If you eat carbs it tells your body to store fat and you lose muscle mass because the body is trying to retain fat instead of retaining muscle.

>>76594323
Oh that makes sense. Shucks

>>76594323
>>76593737
Lmao
having such low test with such a massive body is basically admitting that you did the test off-cycle I cant believe he published it considering he is a doctor but that just goes to show even doctors can be stupid when it comes to endocrinology

>>76593902
Yeah, you're right. A fitness influencer has never lied.

>>76594868
Shawn Baker has a family. He doesn't eat fruit.

>>76594943
>>76594868

>>76595183
You lie constantly. This lie is particularly absurd.
>his household with family members has bananas in it
>he must eat bananas
Nah.

>>76595197
Why wouldn’t the family eat the superior diet?

>>76592177 (OP)
I don't have time for that crap. Actually I have to throw away a bunch of rotting meat because I failed to find time to cook it

>>76592200
Yeah this. Diet and training and protein is great and makes a world of difference too, but your average guy doing those things but not on gear or test isn’t going to look anything like that

>>76595259
He's been working out for most of his life. He got a bit leaner after he started carnivore. His physique is still obviously natty. Roiders can achieve much lower body fat.

>>76595265
What does this have to do with anything?
Are you saying Eddie Hall is natty just cause he’s not ultra lean?

>>76595273
I'm saying Shawn Baker hasn't changed in size very much. When are you claiming he started steroids and what is your basis for that claim?

There's literally no reason to accuse him of using steroids. Angry vegans just say it because they can't cope with their diet getting BTFO.

>>76595265
why do you argue with brainless NPCs?

>>76592916
>What carb crops
Potato, obviously.

>>76592200
This. My buddy fell for the carnivore meme and he's a dyel

>>76592239
yes (you have a mental illness and I try to pacify you)

>>76592358
>>76592377
Yeah, I bench 315 and look prettty decent and eat whatever and my free test came out 190.

>76595594

Uh I'm sure

>>76592200
>>76592237
>>76595259
He's 6'5" and natty you're seething this 60 year old man mogs you. You just weren't built to be athletic.

>>76592177 (OP)
lol internet text?!

>>76595594
>free
>190
? what units

>>76592275
>fiber is not necessary
This is correct. You dumb fuck.

>>76592275
retard

>>76592177 (OP)
Anything but eating a fucking vegetable once in a while huh

>>76592177 (OP)
R8 my diet. This is what i usually eat per week. Add in some mixed veggies and some berries together with the yogurt. I substitute the salmon with ground beef with beef liver if its not available in the stores.