Thread 76594324

CICO is bullshit because your body doesn't make use of every calorie you consume. Otherwise your shit wouldn't be flammable

>>76594324 (OP)
or tasty

We dont measure calories by flammability retardo
We measure it by a system that was created 100 years ago where each macro nutrient has a calorie value attached to them
And it every single controlled trial conducted it works as it should, not 100% perfect but pretty close to it

Have you ever seen anybody calculate caloric intake factoring in how big of shits they take? Fucking retard

your toilet is missing the water friend

>>76594324 (OP)
just eat more if it worries you. the principle is still valid

CICO deniers be like if you dont eat for 10 days your body starts conjuring food out of thin air then if you eat 10 burgers your body refuses to digest them into calories but still takes the nutrients and just shits it out the "calories" separately because you have a metabolism polymorphism

>>76594324 (OP)
>your body doesn't make use of every calorie you consume
>CICO is bullshit
so since you know a lot about this topic, how many calories is a 2000 calorie diet off by in actual used calories. oh wait you don't know so your conclusion isn't even that it's a guess

>>76594339
>Food calories are measured using bomb calorimetry by completely burning a dried and homogenized food sample in a sealed, oxygen-rich chamber called a bomb calorimeter, which is surrounded by a known quantity of water.
The sample is ignited with an electric spark, causing it to combust entirely.
The heat released from this combustion increases the temperature of the surrounding water.
The rise in water temperature is measured with high-precision sensors, and the energy content of the food is calculated based on the temperature change and the known heat capacity of the system.
This method, known as direct calorimetry, provides a precise measurement of the total energy or gross energy content of the food, typically expressed in kilocalories per gram (kcal/g) or kilojoules per gram (kJ/g).
You should've learned this shit in high school

>>76594362
We do not use this measurement anymore retard, we just dont
This is outdated shit
We use the Atwater system which applies average calorie values for macronutrients

if you swallow whole peanuts you'll get exactly zero energy from them, it's like eating pebbles. or pomegranate seeds. it fills you up but oh the constipation

>>76594375
Because you're supposed to chew them you ape. If you swallowed a whole raisin chances are you'd be shitting half the flesh

>>76594339
>system created 100 years ago
Yeah back when they thought the earth was flat

You vegan cico fundamentalists have no idea how antiquated you sound

If CICO is bullshit, how come human trafficking is so cheap because you can just whip faggots like OP and not feed them enough while forcing them to work 18 hours a day?

>>76594324 (OP)
Still slimmer than you, fatso

>>76594380
100 years ago people were developing nuclear weapons

>>76594379
of course, but chewing is never as efficient as eating a peanut butter. so there is a certain efficiency spectrum of the digestive system which makes OP right in theory, but is insignificant in practice

>>76594385
Have you tried actually chewing the food that you shove down your mouthole?

>>76594387
no, it makes me fat

>>76594385
Peanut butter has tons of additives including seed oils of course it's more "effective" than plain roasted peanuts

>>76594392
I'm impressed you solved the captcha with that level of intelligence

>>76594324 (OP)
That's part of the CO in CICO. Every critique of CICO consists of finding another part of CO and not noticing that those are calories out

>>76594324 (OP)
I didn't need anything more accurate than a calculated TDEE and the estimations of a calorie counting app.

>>76594474
this and countless, really countless, controlled trials already confirm that CICO works great with our most common calorie counting systems

I never needed to count calories, I just eat less if my weight doesn't drop and eat more if my weight doesn't go up.

Can someone tell me what CICO deniers do when they want to gain/lose weight? Do they just like, pray? Make a vision board? Manifest? Chant mantras? Or do they increase/decrease their food/exercise like everyone else

>>76594535
Exercise doesn't affect CICO though.

>>76594535
CICO deniers do not lose weight at all, so they don't have to worry about it.

>>76594392
>Peanut butter has seed oils
Lmaoooooo

>>76594324 (OP)
>hurr durr CICO is wrong because you might miscount by 20%
yeah anon about that

if you weight 300kg and eat 8000kcal/day, CICO will work extremely well
if you're at a BMI of 15, CICO will work extremely well
if you want to bulk with a 1000kcal surplus, CICO will work extremely well

and even if you just want to keep maintenance
CICO will still work you just don't have to be that strict
because as you noticed, our body self regulates

>>76594324 (OP)
your body can't extract calories from fiber so all the calories that make your shit flammable are basically just grass or wood

I'm on a cut CICO works for me.

>>76594324 (OP)
Getting owned too hard in your other thread? Spamming your schizo shit doesn't make it true
>>76585451

>>76594380
You're the fat earther, ketoschizo

>>76594546
this nigga can't even read past the CI in CICO

Stop posting so many threads brah it's over

>>76594756
Don't bother with basic math, OP is the keto retard who wastes our time arguing about esoteric forms of CI and CO, as if it makes their schizo shit more true. Some motte-and-bailey shit

>>76594914
Working out is unsustainable, CO comes from the way you live your life. Office wagies have no choice but to eat less, only chad who climbs mountains without safety line can eat 4kkcal and be fit and mog the office shitter.

>>76594929
Cope, fatass. If you're too weak to exercise, put down the fork

>>76594935
Lol the projection. Imagine being so fat you count 400kcal from lifting as expenditure.
Wow bro, you spent 1200 a week... That's half of what a woman eats in a day, just eat less.

>>76594941
This is a fitness board. You're fat and you don't exercise. Do your bad-faith keto shit somewhere else

>>76594951
I don't do keto, I simply don't count workout as expenditure because I don't have to cope like you do.

>>76594955
>I don't do keto
because it doesn't work, right?
CICO does, whether or not you're counting

>>76594969
okay fatty, keep telling yourself that you deserve that bigmac because you did spend 462kcal last workout

>>76594324 (OP)
This is true. CICO is preposterous the more you think about it.

>>76594342
This mouse study burned the feces to get a calorie measurement. It proves CICO is fake.

>>76594941
I just track weight, and then CI if I start gaining. I don't have to do calculus problem to jump and fall back to Earth, but it's still governed by physics.

>>76594980
So you admit that CICO doesn't work? Good.

>>76594971
You really think you can just "no u" the accusation of being a fatass? Anti-CICOers never >show body

>>76594986
Real world doesn't care about feelings, ATP cannot be quantified.

>>76594983
No, and everyone with reading comprehension can tell that, and that you are being purposefully obtuse. You're not very good at trolling

>>76594991
but your weight can, though

>>76595004
It cannot.

>>76595009
it can if you
>post body

>>76595015
Why do you need my physique and not my weight? You said weight is all that matters.
How many goalposts will you move, CICOtard?

>>76595020
only goalpost I've placed is
>post body
you're whiffing it, dude

>>76595025
You went from claiming that weight can tell something to asking me to post body when it doesn't tell my weight.

>>76595031
this is pathetic. you've become boring again. go back to screeching about moxyte and fungo

>>76595040
Why not ask my weight then claim you know my personal CICO without knowing my body composition or how I spend my weeks?

>>76595043
No, don't have to. We all know you're a fatass... if there even is anyone else in the thread anymore. People only feel obligated to reply to you when they think there's an actual argument about physics to be had. Now that you are obviously some troll or schizo, you'll have to spam a new thread. I'm going on a run, it's too fine of a Saturday to waste like your pathetic ass

>>76595057
CICO is king ;)

>>76594973
>Burning feces of predominantly herbivore to calculate calories
lol, this is funny, they calculate calories that the rat never absorbs and some that bacteria produce, such an useful study!
CICOtards are mentally ill beyond belief.
>>76595057
Shut up subhuman, you're so mentally ill that you never stopped to think that maybe math isn't useful in something that's unquantifiable and personal.

>>76595064

obvious samefag, very mentally well

>I'm losing a reddit argument on 4chan, quick think of something
>SAMEFAAAAG!
Or you know, maybe you're just so retarded that multiple people think you should kill yourself already.

the "CICO is king" guy is samefagging too, moron

>>76594324 (OP)
>CICO is bullshit because your body doesn't make use of every calorie you consume.
it doesn't follow bot
>shit is flammable
>shit isn't flammable
makes no difference whatsoever

>>76597014
why did you bump this shit thread instead of letting it die?

>>76597021
couldn't let it stay on page 11, we needed two CICO threads

maybe we should start another

CICO at its core is basic thermodynamics. It will always be true. We simply live in a version of the universe where this is so.
Calculating CICO however involves biology and chemistry, along with less than 100% accurate measurments.

I'll argue against myself as many times as I need to to keep this thread alive. Nobody can prove it's me samefagging. Pro-CICO, anti-CICO, whatever it takes to spam the catalog with CICO

Kekke post your PayPal

I will literally pay you to leave 4chan for a week. I’m serious just fuck OFF

>>76597087
>literally
As opposed to what, figuratively pay me?

>>76594324 (OP)
Dis nigga doesnt know about biomethane

>>76597039
he's up to three now
>>76597126