Thread 76594527

>be me
>dwarfmaxx and be a relatively buff motherfucker
>one day
>*SNAP*
>tom_and_jerry_scream.mp3
>go to doctor and get half a dozen tests and scans
>yeah you're snapped your wrist tendon, anon
>fuck
>fast forward 11 months
>i could not do any lifting, ate like shit and drank a lot (i am georgian, we literally drink wine with every meal)
>wrist tendon slowly healing though, doctor says in 3 months it should heal back to almost how it was, although some scarring remains
>think about starting to lift again, but dread how long it takes remembereing by early days of lifting
my question: do you re-gain muscles faster than when you never lifted before or do you literally have to start everything from zero again?
i will keep it real with you bros, the thought of starting again from day 1 and thinking how long it took me to become buff to do all over again is terrifying

as an offering for your knowlwdge i give you: a funny video of retarded women

>>76594527 (OP)
"muscle memory" exists, but it's nothing to do with your actual muscle remembering, and everything to do with mind-muscle connection, experience, and discipline, all of which increase after gymming for a while.

You'll probably recover your gains quicker than you first built them, assuming decent testosterone levels.

>>76594527 (OP)
>women heal themselves with phallic objects
nothing new under the sun

maybe it's a mechanism similar to how fat cells don't die even when you lose weight so morbidly obese people tend to gain it all back as soon as they eat crap again. It definitively is much easier for me to resume even months than it was when I started for the very first time.

>>76594527 (OP)
>one day
>*SNAP*
>>yeah you're snapped your wrist tendon, anon
Does this really happen without warning? We're you perhaps retarded and lifted when you were sore or followed a *program* by some online grifter?

find another hobby, basing whole identity over how your body looks is 100% homo

>>76594527 (OP)
Jesus Christ, Georgian wine is god tier, and I'm so sorry it's not recognized more in the west.

>>76594568
Hypertrophy on the other hand is merely the growth of the muscle cells one already has. Like your example of fat cells. If one used to work out and generated new muscle (hyperplasty), and if they stop working out, their muscles "atrophy". However, generally, the muscle cells are still there, they've just lost protein, water, and cell membrane. Once you begin training again, it is simple to gain your muscle "mass" back.

Again, it's extremely difficult to generate new muscle cells (hyperplasty) without hormone spikes. But, it's relatively easy (months) to regain muscle mass (hypertrophy), after a hiatus and losing muscle mass (atrophy).

>>76594579
i was doing weighted dips with (in hindsight) dogshit ass form
>>76594624
my dad and uncle make their own, we rarely buy it in stores, but i agree
however, most people can't point georgia on a map, so i am not surprised our produce is not popular

>>76594527 (OP)
Muscle memory absolutely exists. When you attempt to build muscle, you develop Myosatellite cells. There is no evidence that in the absence of strength training that your body deletes these cells, however extended periods of disuse will make them dormant.

>>76594527 (OP)
Could look into stem cells, rehab steroids, surgery, cortisol, and whatever else. Or just preferably bulking, high vits/fats/collagen, and rehab work like super light tensing and articulating etc. Like pulling a too heavy db, pushing against a fixed bar to reset tendons, putting more and more weight on it like some weights on a boxing glove.

>>76594688
>most people can't point georgia on a map
Wdym it's right above florida

>>76594719
Decent bait

>>76594527 (OP)
It's both there's like 2 separate things it could be.
The first is muscles are multinucliated cells. They grow my fusing nuclei of satellite cells into them selves. More nuclei more mitochondria more potential energy output. Even if the muscle loses tissue mass it doesn't lose those nuclei. (unless it's damaged catastrophically).

The second is also a neuron thing dealing with recruitment patterns in practiced movments. To heavily abbreviate this your spine, neurons and brain devise the more effecient muscle fiber recruitment for a given movment so it doesn't waste as much energy. This is also part of why it gets so much harder to gain mass in the intermediate stages.

>>76594527 (OP)
It exists but this>>76594552 isn't the reason/mechanism. Your body literally regains muscle quicker than how long it took to build it for example, it took me a year to go from a 135 bench to 275, when I stopped lifting it took only 5 months to get back to 275lbs

>>76594527 (OP)
American yuppie white women are probably the most obnoxious creatures on the planet, fuck that entire country desu.

You 100% faster regain lost muscle than build new one.
It's the closest thing to roiding.>>76594527 (OP)

>>76594527 (OP)
It’s 100% legit. I can take a year off and be back to benching 3 plates in about a month or two simply because I’ve been there before

>>76594552
>mind-muscle connection
You imbecile, the connection always exists, that's how you can move it in the first place, and mind is a fucking meme that's worthless in actual lifting.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No-mind

>>76595606
>3 plates in about a month

>>76595606
After 1 year of no lifting, you lose all your gainz?

>>76594527 (OP)
Those people can vote

>>76594527 (OP)
>>*SNAP*
>>tom_and_jerry_scream.mp3

>>76594527 (OP)
yes it exists

>>76594527 (OP)
>do you re-gain muscles faster than when you never lifted before
Yeah, took me about two weeks to get a year's gains back once, give or take.

>>76594527 (OP)
Yeah, I started lifting again after a 5y break, and it's piss easy, but damn I was weak af. It's basically like learning how to ride a bike, you learn it once, and it's with you forever.

>>76598239
>Yeah, took me about two weeks to get a year's gains back once, give or take.
Come on bro, stop giving out false hope. As the other anons said, you are about twice as fast. So to get your 1 year lifts you will need about 6 months

>>76598247
>5y break
Bro what happened. After 5 years I imagine all your muscles are gone? How fast did your gainz return? Any tips?
t. used to be able to do 18 chin ups, now after a 3 month break, I can only do 4 (what the FUCK)

>>76594527 (OP)
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>>76594527 (OP)
>do you re-gain muscles faster than when you never lifted before
Yes, you keep the myonuclei

I'd love to listen to these women list how exactly they have been "wronged", I'm sure it'd be a constant stream of the most inane shit imaginable

>>76594527 (OP)
I can fix her

>>76594527 (OP)
In terms of the quicker size gaining when i studied it some years ago it has to do with your muscle cels developing more nucleus while they grow for the first time and when you stop and lose size they t keep the nucleus and when you train again hyou gain size quicker cause your muscles already have more nucleus wich is the slower part on the process of gaining muscle size.

I dont know the theory about the strrength part but i havent squated and deadlifted for four year and now that im back at it for like 3 months i will alread try to reset my deadlift pr on my next session and to gain this pr first i worked for 2 years so its much easier once youve done it before too

>>76598802
Life happened. All kinds of bs from health to just rl issues. Went back to the gym in January, reached 3 plates for 6 reps on squats in august, I wonder how long it'll take me to get to like 12 reps. Overall, it's alright, not as impressive as my 5 plates back in the day, but eh, back then I was obsessed with powerlifting and PRs, unironically completed as an amateur. Now I'm just a dude who wants to have some fun in the gym.

>>76594527 (OP)
>Does "muscle memory" exist
Yes. No matter how much time I become a lazy piece of shit, the recovery time is always pretty quick. Takes like 2 weeks to get back into the groove of things, and by about 3 months you've recovered most of your shit.

>>76598797
>Come on bro, stop giving out false hope.
Not lying, but it was legs and I only lost about half the size, because you use your legs.

>>76594527 (OP)
>drinking alcohol during recovery

literal retard

>>76594527 (OP)
>be OP
>still a faggot
Muscle memory exists.

>>76594527 (OP)
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