Thread 76612720

Do you seriously think this is natural and functional, safe and healthy?
Did wild humans do this in nature? Did they lift 500lb barbells?
What did wild humans actually do?

Also, if you can't hold a deadlift with your hands, you shouldn't cheat with straps. God didn't want you to lift so heavy, if he wanted he would give you stronger grip and fingers.

Calisthenics and weighted calisthenics is more natural and pure. Powersharting is fake and artificial, unhealthy.

How is this healthy and natural? Wild humans do this in the jungle? They climb trees and eat bananas.

>>76612720 (OP)
White boys have bad genetics. Simple as.

This is how you look.

barbell training is about as retarded as it gets unless you're getting paid millions to compete talk to any real pro spine expert and they'll you these people who train barbell for fun have the downs

>>76612743
>they'll you these people
It is you who has the downs, bud

>>76612724
Not gonna lie. That bail was slick.

>>76612746
enjoy your hip replacement kid nearly every single person in heavy barbell training winds up needing multiple surgeries. strength maxing is the gayest shit you could ever do unless you're getting paid millions to offset the retardation

>>76612720 (OP)
>Muh natural
Natural humans are gross, smelly, and at the mercy of nature where they lives lives that are brutish, nasty, and short. Extolling the virtues of nature without any sort of criticism towards its flaws is the "I'm not like the other girls" of midwit philosophy.

>>76612720 (OP)
calisthenics is cope for weak faggots and faggots who didnt make the cut for gymnastics
you are not special

>if a movement isn't exactly the same as something i would do if i was an ape its pointless
You can't be this dumb. It's like claiming that learning math in a classroom doesn't count because the problems are just using random numbers and not natural amounts like 5 oranges or 10 apples or some shit and then telling people that they don't need to learn calculus or algebra since we only ever need to count to like 10 in real life.

>>76612760
Human spine and body didn't evolve to lift 500lb barbell. But to climb trees, hold and carry wounded friend, throw rocks.
So it is not surprising that powersharting ends in spine and joint damage.

>>76612720 (OP)
Calisthenics is for poorfags, simple as

>>76612720 (OP)
Did wild humans tie rocks to themselves and do pull-ups? Did wild humans do handstands? Did wild humans ever have a reason to planche or front lever?

>>76612866
Yeah, it's directly referenced in the book of Greg

>>76612743
Show us those spine experts.

>>76612720 (OP)
I don't give a shit about this argument but I have the same problem as this nig. No muscle to support me but I'm naturally strong. How much weight should he actually be loading and should he be doing like SLDL's or something instead until his legs get steadier?

>>76612857
Retarded argument, nigga. Your body adapts to stimuli. Feel free to ooga booga in your backyard and fling shit around because it's "natural" or whatever, just don't get mad when you get mogged by someone who isn't afraid of touching unnatural implements like barbells, lmao.

>>76612743
>spine expert
Like who? DYEL University? Faglean X? Kike Israel?

>>76612730
Them some impressive floppers

>>76612863
Yes, smart people, that want to get a lot while paying nothing.

>>76612866
>Did wild humans tie rocks to themselves and do pull-ups?
Rocks I doubt, but some food and shit, bags, their children, yes.
>Did wild humans do handstands?
Yes, for entertainment.
>Did wild humans ever have a reason to planche or front lever?
No, planche and levers are a memes.

But if you do weighted calisthenics you get the best from "natural" but also you get progressions like in powersharting.

>>76612880
Don't do deadlifts, maybe except single leg variants. Do not add straps if your hands can't keep the barbell.

>>76612893
>Your body adapts to stimuli.
Muscles, yes, slowly. But spine doesn't. You just damage it.
>just don't get mad when you get mogged by someone who isn't afraid of touching unnatural implements like barbells, lmao.
Deadlift will not grow your visible muscles, you won't mog anybody. Also, most powersharters are fat.

>>76612907
>aaaiiieee my spine will explode if i pick objects up off the ground
Whatever, fag. Go ahead and avoid training through ranges of motion you consider dangerous. Don't come back here crying that no one warned you when you end up weak and injure your lower back carrying groceries or some dumb shit.

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>>76612750
Lol yeah I always enjoy watching that video

>>76612720 (OP)
>natural
nature is shit dumbass. but you already knew that because you’re posting from a computer in an air conditioned room with electric lights on a mass produced chair.

>>76612969
I don't have air conditioning, lights are off, I am not using a chair.
And the fact that barbell deadlift is unnatural is confirmed by many people on /fit/ that claim that they injured their backs doing it.

>>76612720 (OP)
If they could've they would've

>>76612751
>nearly every single person in heavy barbell training winds up needing multiple surgeries
Skill issue

>>76613043
You're a dirty broke white boy that smells like shit and looks like shit.

>>76613043
There are people who injure themselves walking, running, throwing things, all natural movements for humans. Are you genuinely arguing that picking something up from the ground is unnatural?

>>76613106
>You're a dirty broke white boy that smells like shit and looks like shit.

>>76612720 (OP)
Wild human deadlifted carcasses yes
>>76612743
Call me a spine expert the way i gave your mom a pelvic tilt from too much womb bruising

>>76612720 (OP)
post your PVRE NATVRAL FIZEEK Anon

>>76612730
I look exactly like that and do it exactly like that (except jerking the head). Currently at 3 x (5 x 120 kg) but slight lower back bend at rep 5 on the last 2 sets with 5 minute rest inbetween.

>>76612720 (OP)
>>76612724
>>76612730
>>76612743
Post body.

>>76612720 (OP)
If god didn't want me to be stronger he wouldn't give me a body capable of getting stronger.

>>76612720 (OP)
Why did the woman in the back stare at the guy collapsing and then just returned to starting at her phone?

>>76613770
not her problem

I don’t understand why he held that long or kept bending backwards just nig intelligence

do powershitters really

>>76613141
>There are people who injure themselves walking, running, throwing things, all natural movements for humans.
Injures when walking are rare, but I hear every day on /fit/ that someone injured back doing powersharting.
>Are you genuinely arguing that picking something up from the ground is unnatural?
Picking rocks and logs from ground if you can hold in your hands is natural.
But picking barbell and using straps is not natural, it lets you lift much heavier than you would in the nature.

>>76613252
>Wild human deadlifted carcasses yes
Without barbell and without straps.

>>76612720 (OP)
It's pretty impressive he got to a 500lb deadlift without even knowing how to lift properly. I think blacks have superior genetics for strength but they are just too low IQ to capitalise on it.

>>76613141
>There are people who injure themselves walking, running, throwing things, all natural movements for humans.
Injures when walking are rare, but I hear every day on /fit/ that someone injured back doing powersharting.
>Are you genuinely arguing that picking something up from the ground is unnatural?
Picking rocks and logs from ground if you can hold in your hands is natural.
Picking barbell and using straps is not natural, it lets you lift much heavier than you would in the nature.

>>76613252
>Wild human deadlifted carcasses yes
Without barbell, without straps.

>>76612720 (OP)
what the fuck was that retard even trying to achieve?

>>76612730
god he looks like dogshit

>>76612720 (OP)
>muh natural
Tool use to overcome our natural limitations is one of the defining features of the human race.

>>76612720 (OP)
>natural
retarded buzzword
i like to think this is b8 but there are people actually this retarded

>>76612720 (OP)
The internet isn't natural. You'd better log off anon

>>76614876
You are not overcoming when you damage your spine on deadlift.

>>76614904
Log off and do what? Modern world is unnatural and evil.

>>76615061
>using your spine is bad
Okay anon I will lay in bed all day, god forbid I move and it damages my legs
>modern world is unnatural and evil
Go live in the woods or stop doomposting, you're genuinely a defeatist loser who has ideals but doesn't ascribe to any of them

>>76615218
>Okay anon I will lay in bed all day, god forbid I move and it damages my legs
No, because legs are designed to carry your body weight. But spine is not designed for powersharting 500lb with straps and barbell.

Powersharting is wrong. Stop it.

>>76612878
this man has helped elite powerlifters recover from severe spinal disorders from their gay sport

>doing deadlifts and squatting ie. natural movements is considered powerlifting
Post bodies, dyels

>>76616211
nobody is saying that on fit they're telling you to progress near maximal lifts for gainz and it's 100% retarded to do unless you're making fortune doing it

>>76616184
Can't argue with a mustache like that.

>>76616184
>stock image

>>76612724
Imagine you're climbing trees by pressing your back against one tree and pushing against another. That's the exact same mechanic as the bench press.

>>76616410
I like to do literally anything with my chest, shoulders, and triceps and it's easier the more I bench because the development didn't disappear when I left the rack.

>>76612724
>The walk of shame after failing
classic

>>76612720 (OP)
Wild human is not the preferred nomenclature. African-American, please.

>>76612895
>never heard of a chiropractor
Are Americans actually this behind in the medical tech tree?

>>76616899
The US is the only place I've ever seen spine scammers.

>>76612857
I can lift 500 lbs just fine. I’m a natty. Although I also find the theory of evolution to be bullshit so maybe you’re right

>>76616211
Deadlift and squats are only natural if you do them with moderate weight, not when you maximize to 300lb+.

>>76617940
The only difference between moderate and... *checks your post again.. extra moderate weight is the amount of physical development. Physical development is entirely natural if you don't roid.

>>76616899
>chiroquacktors
>medical

>>76612863
Correct.

>>76613076
Retard issue on your part

>>76617960
You're a fag

>>76617998
You know the problem with a argument is that I know I'm not a fag and now that you threw it out there one of us has to be and it's not me.

>>76617960
Your muscles grow from training, but your spine doesn't. You just damage it.

>>76618092
I appreciate your concern internet guy who thinks 300lbs is heavy.

>>76618092
Your joints and muscles that support the spine will grow in strength, thus protecting your spine from injury.

>>76618579
They don't. The people who can deadlift 500lb, this is survivorship bias, they were born with spine, bones, joints very big, that could handle 500 lb.
If you are tiny boned you will just get back injury if you try what they do.

>>76618092
>>76618613
it's so sad that the education system failed you this badly and you never ever took a biology or health course that explained how bones become denser and stronger with exercise.

>>76618734
Spine is not a bone like tibia.
Also, how do you explain so many people on /fit/ injuring their back from squats and deadlift?

>>76618820
If you're still walking nothing happened to your spine. Back pain from neuroticism is a huge trend right now.

>>76618188
It's not that 300lbs is heavy it's why you think you're supposed to regularly train lifting heavy. Literally nothing you ever do in life requires lifting near max weight from the ground. The only thing you stand to gain vs other forms of training is a severe spinal disorder

>>76619273
I trained squats and didn't injure anything, but I regularly hear on /fit/ that other damaged their back with powersharting. I believe them.

Stop powersharting.

Post your weak little baby spine, OP

>>76612720 (OP)
>if you can't hold a deadlift with your hands, you shouldn't cheat with straps.
i agree with this. however, the hullabaloo over lifting weights in a gym is a bit silly. whether you're doing that, or lifting a log outside or exerting x amount of force to dig a hole or whatever (natural) activity you're referring to, you'd still be stimulating muscle growth to the same degree. it's like saying someone shouldn't practice shooting at a shooting range before shooting in nature.

>>76612720 (OP)
>What did wild humans actually do?
The elites and patricians didn't have to do shit, either get gout or look pretty in order to be molested by their elders

Meanwhile the slaves and serfs had to do most of the heavy lifting in society, building civilisation, and proceeding to fuck the wives of the gentry on rest day, because women ultimately want to be dominated by titans

>>76613064
>Bybon son of Phola could lift this over his head
>Could

Yeah he literally died, what did he benefit from lifting the rock ?

>>76612720 (OP)
>What did wild humans actually do?

>>76612720 (OP)
>Did they lift 500lb barbells?
>t. never jerked a boar up onto his shoulders before carrying it home

>>76619372
Well read my post again I guess. It's not from squatting or they wouldn't be able to walk.
>>76619356
>Literally nothing you ever do in life requires lifting near max weight from the ground.
Yeah which is why it makes everything else you do easier. That's the whole point of doing it. We pick stuff up at work that weighs up to 100kg. Guess who's the fastest and never tired and never complains about back pain? Me, the guy who it's not even a warmup for.

>>76620953
Boar doesn't have the shape of a barbell. It's more similar to training with sandbags.

>>76612753

>Natural humans are gross, smelly, and at the mercy of nature where they lives lives that are brutish, nasty, and short

I read this too quickly so I thought it said "natural humans are gross, smelly, and at the mercy of nature where they live lives that are British, nasty and short."

I guess the natural state o' man in nay'chuh is avin' a fockin pint o' ale an' eatin a fockin' beef mince brickle mash innit.

Ego lifters always get what's coming to them, the same way every roider has a health scare and has to cycle off. It's truly something so sublime.

>>76621114
I've never struggled so much with picking up anything in my life so much I thought, "Geeeee I need to lift 400+ lbs to pick up much lighter objects". That's completely retarded. Nothing anyone lifts on a day to day basis will be anywhere training deadlift near max regularly.

>>76621148
This. Stop deadlifting.

>>76621227
I agree, conventional deads are inferior

>>76612743
Kek
I love when small and weak men feel the need to give their opinions on the activities of real men like anyone cares

>>76621232
Lost my shit at this
Bahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha
Fukn why bro lmaooooooooo

>>76621232
h-he's fast!

>>76612720 (OP)
The hag in the back just looking as the guy collapses and not giving a fuck

>>76621488
Why would she?
Plus people are already running towards him

Use your brain

>>76621470
ok manlet

>>76621488
He is not a chad, and also he is black, nig.

>be brown twink at gym
>just got done sucking off a boomer in the sauna
>see fully grown adult male benching your squat PR for warmup weight
>oh no you're seething again
>post yet another schizo thread about le unhealthy powersharts on Belgian apple stewing board