Thread 76615030

Is it even possible for the modern low-T, domesticated male, to give off the same masculine vibe?
I started watching old movies (like Connery James Bond, Clint Eastwood stuff, hell even Kirk in Star Trek) and it's making me depressed feeling so emasculated in comparison.
Can anything be done? I don't suppose sunbathing your balls or lowering the amount of plastics will help much...
To be honest, I don't even think roiding gets you to a similar point, roidtrannies are big and muscular but there is still something "off" about them, like a feminine soul... it feels like some kind of global mind control electromagnetic field or something, no matter what you do you it seems we cannot avoid the pussification

Craig was the best bond only boomer fags disagree

>>76615043
Craig is a good example of the pussified faggot I'm talking about in OP, thank you for that
I would accept Architect as the best one, but Connery is still way more masculine and natural

>>76615030 (OP)
By zoomer standards, Connery Bond is a betamaxx
>Not tall
>Victim weight
>Beats women
>Not stoic at all
>Kills in cold blood = sociopath
>Cringe quips
>Not a hustler, employeefag
>Cares for status symbols

There's a reason they're scrambling to change the Bond design because the character is simply not marketable nowadays.

>>76615030 (OP)
It’s possible, there’s just a bit of cognitive dissonance when you start shedding modern brainwashing about masculinity

>>76615057
Addendum: Just compare him to Reacher, a bodybuilder giant with a coscience who respects and subordinates himself to women (Ever notice he never puts the moves on chicks but only fucks them when they basically force him to?).

>>76615060
>when you start shedding modern brainwashing about masculinity
Nobody on this site has done this. They're either full soiboi or go the /pol/ route of becoming a Nietzschean islamist vatnik.

>>76615043
Craig, Connor and Moore are top 3. I don't know/care about the exact order.

>>76615043
this except it's Pierce Brosnan (who also got the best Bond movies and no it's not even a debate)

>>76615030 (OP)
>it's making me depressed feeling so emasculated in comparison.
>wants to be le alpha masculine male man
>compares himself to FUCKING ACTORS
I hope women bully you on a daily basis

>>76615030 (OP)
>I started watching old movies (like Connery James Bond, Clint Eastwood stuff, hell even Kirk in Star Trek) and it's making me depressed feeling so emasculated in comparison.
Spoiler alert: hollywood didn't choose an average everyday man from that era, they picked a specific type of person to craft a narrative of manly masculinity. The fact that you think its real life from back in the day makes you as gullible as tik tok trend followers.

>>76615057
Perhaps, but zoomers are feminine retarded cretins, so their opinions on masculinity has no value

>>76615057
Connery is tall af you niggabitch

>>76615081
>>76615085
yeah we all know OP is reatrded
this is now a BOND thread

>>76615085
You could pick a random male from any old movie and he will be more masculine than the most masculine man you can find in 2025.

>>76615057
Conbery was 6'2" and an amateur bodybuilder. Most of uour other points contradict each other. The fuck are you smoking

>>76615043
Craig was the only bond to capture that 007 is a borderline sociopath who really doesn't care about civilian casualties or actually murdering people

>>76615119
I really thought Craig's era would be the best bond ever after Casino Royale, one of the best bond movies ever made.
Then they fucked it up with the rest of his movies and pissed him off so he never wanted to play bond again. At least Skyfall was pretty, even if it was a mess story wise (seriously they just needed a few different storyline edits and it could have been so, so good)

>>76615081
This. OP is a faggot. Why would you compare yourself to theater kids play-acting the power fantasies of boomer losers?

A real man wouldn't twist himself in knots watching slop.

Do you mog Sean Connery's old bodybuilding competition pics anon?

>>76615119
Craig became a turbo simp in the later movies

>>76615145
Yeah they really fucked it up but casino royale is still a 9/10 film.

>>76615119
Craig is interesting because I think he's the only on-screen Bond with something of a character arch (though its quality is debatable)
I think his era could've been the best if Spectre didn't shit the bed so hard

Get more sunlight, it raises testosterone

>>76615067
Reacher (at least the TV series) makes much more sense when you realize he's just massively autistic

>>76615030 (OP)
>Connery
>Eastwood
>Shatner

You've listed actors known at the height of their careers for portraying presumptuous machismo assholes, conflating their insufferability and improbable body counts with masculinity. You do realize fiction isn't real life, right?

But hey, start being an asshole to everyone around you and see how that treats you.

>>76615181
sean wears hairpiece here bot :D
>and makeup
yes and makeup - what an effeminate insecure faggot lol :D
>>76615167
>Craig is interesting because I think he's the only on-screen Bond with something of a character arch (though its quality is debatable)
>I think his era could've been the best if Spectre didn't shit the bed so hard
craig has guts from roids spilling out - it was no go from the get go, face always looked like some rodent lol

>>76615081
>>76615093
>>76615085
Seething brownoids

>>76615030 (OP)
You probably have a short ano-genital distance. Nothing can be done unfortunately.

>>76615198
how is Captain Kirk an asshole? he is one of the most lawful good characters I've ever seen
pretty much the direct inspiration for going all-in Paragon in Mass Effect

>>76615181
I'd rather be Connery

>>76615213
>face
He's not as handsome as Bond should be, but it works well enough
>roid gut
Come on now

>>76615250

imposhible

>a skinnyfat alcoholic mans body is peak masculinity to trad larpers
grim

>>76615220
lel, brownoids are the prime target demographic for tough alpha male fantasy bootcamps and movies, you walking hemorrhoid

>>76615277
how about you stop cherrypicking
>>76615136

>>76615030 (OP)
Sean Connery was so arachnophobic that when filming the scene in Dr. No with the spider, he made them put glass between him and the harmless tarantula.

He hated Bond, and got himself fired from the role because it sucked and he didn't like being famous.

Also, aside from being a prodigious rapist, what does Connery's Bond do that's so masculine compared to modern men?

>>76615093
>that one mission where the Japs are all running around half-naked in towels while the Yakuza and the ninja boss ambush you
One of my first faps for sure if not the first one. Kino mission too, what a game

>>76615030 (OP)
>Clint Eastwood
Luv me Clint, but he was considered a pretty boy by John Wayne loving boomers and not without a good reason

Plus threads like this are low T. Instead of asking "how should a man act?" you ask "how do I emulate this fictional escapist character?"

>>76615030 (OP)
>guy walks into the cinema 1960s
>wow this James Bond guy is so relatable, he's just like me and the fellas from work, I love that Hollywood always represents average Joes like me

>masculine vibe

Plays golf with a fat Dutch pimp, resorts to cheating when gets btfo. Gets btfo by asian midget anyway.

In the cuck chair under fort Knox model while Goldfinger fucks a dozen Italian guys. Gets easily subdued by a bitch named Pussy.

Gets chained to a table so Chadfinger can cut his dick off with a laser. Only lies and deceit keep Jame's Bond from being 007ed.

>This is your masculine icon

Also, don't forget in a later movie:

Goes to gay spa. Effeminate euro trash noble puts him in a wiggler machine. Bond has to be saved by a woman. Immediately threatens her with tattling to boss.

I can see why you're so depressed anon. I too wish I could go to Toyko, be humiliated by a random old Japanese dude, get given a wife for no reason, have her die on the honeymoon while failing to protect her, get given a second identical Japanese girl, then let awesome ninja guys do the fighting for me while I stand around talking to a random gay autist obsessed with space and Chinese communism.

>>76615307
Fucking love that shit

KUKUNIYA or whatever the fuck they yelled

>>76615030 (OP)
sunning your balls with uvb lamps 100% improves your test by alot

>>76615030 (OP)
Its called a tan. You can even tan in light tree shade over a period of time.

>>76615030 (OP)
I swear he only looked so old for his age because he was drinking and smoking 24/7 ever since 16 or some shit

>>76615110
>amateur bodybuilder
He was dyel as fuck by the time he played bond though

>>76615277
>>76615616
Eh, out of shape but you can still tell he has good genetics. Tall, broad shoulders, good frame, still has some muscle mass at least and you can tell he used to be in great shape. Pretty much what a legitimate "untrained chad" looks like - obvious good genetics but just out of shape

>>76615081
That is funny
>if only I could be as masculine as the theater kids

>>76615110
Actor heights are always overblown and he was literally skinnyfat in his Bond years.

>>76615030 (OP)
You're homosexual

>>76615067
have you tried not watching kike media

>>76615684
you wish

>>76615247
Captain Kirk was a womanizer, and TJ Hooker had the asshole part covered. I admit, of the 3, Kirk was the nicest, but I think he also had the least realistic body count.

>>76615069
>go the /pol/ route of becoming a Nietzschean islamist vatnik.
Problem: My idiotic propaganda isn't convincing anyone
Solution: They're obviously nihilists.

>>76615030 (OP)
It takes over a year to make faster progress assuming perfect diet/programming/technique. And you have to change programming and have to use more safe techniques once the weight gets heavier.

Why are there so many defeatist posts, how much does it pay to monitor "terrorists?" This money could be going to subsidize college, science, etc.

>>76615093
I bondburgered your sister

>>76615057
what did she do to piss him off. I would never beat muh waifu.

I like Borat and mr Bean.

Peak male energy.

>>76615305
>what does Connery's Bond do that's so masculine compared to modern men?
He spends hours every day on his smartphone arguing pointless trivia against people he'll never meet. So manly. No, wait, that's you

>>76615030 (OP)
i feel like there's been a divergence on the masculinity stereotype.

On one hand you have the Patrick Bateman type, trying to be at the top of the social hierarchy, the desire to be seen by everyone as the superior male in the room.
On the other you have the Clint eastwood type, a person who lives life his way without trying to be part of society, who cares little about his public perception.

>>76615738
>Mmhhhm look at that man from the 70's mhmhmm what a high testosterone MAAAN. What a stud.... he's so viril...

>>76616242
Nice projection

>>76615043

Craig was Bond for the womenz and the old guard was for the men. Markets have changed.

>>76615030 (OP)
No, boomers ruined the world with plastics and chemicals in our water and food supply.

>>76615305
>what does Connery's Bond do that's so masculine compared to modern men
Dude are you serious?

>>76615030 (OP)
Early nutrition and lifestyle

>>76615057
you listed incorrect things and good things about him

>>76615057
Zoomers don't watch movies. Why they fuck would anyone try to change Bond to appeal to them. Those fags can't even stand watching a man and a woman kiss.

>>76615030 (OP)
What are you talking about, look at these dyels

>>76615110
>Conbery was 6'2"
Lol

>and an amateur bodybuilder.
>>76615136

>>76615198
>You've listed actors known at the height of their careers for portraying presumptuous machismo assholes, conflating their insufferability and improbable body counts with masculinity. You do realize fiction isn't real life, right?
>But hey, start being an asshole to everyone around you and see how that treats you.
Way to prove his point, I guess.

>>76615446
>>76615057
Lmao

>>76616341
Pierce Brosnan was best bond.

>>76615030 (OP)
The reason they are so cool and masculine is that every scene they're in has been written that way.
Everyone in the production sees them as cool and masculine, nobody makes them look stupid, they never do anything wrong.

If you just gave them a masculine vibe that nobody else was picking up on, and nobody respected them, youd just have the average arrogant brown loser.

>>76615030 (OP)
what roids? was connery on primo and deca?

>>76615277
He is supposed to infiltrate high societies, all the Bond actors did fit the physicality of an high paid banker, everyone except for Craig, who looks physically like an KGB assassin.

>>76615910
Kirk had maybe Sex with a handful of women in all 3 seasons plus 7 films.
That he was a womanizer is mostly invented by pop culture and the awful Abrams movies.

>>76615043
Each Bond was kino in their own way, it's hard to pick between them. But the Craig movies got worse and worse as they went on, the final one was just terrible, but Casino Royale remains one of the all time best (alongside Living Daylights and Goldeneye).

>>76618424
>the only reasonably fit ones are young Paul Newman and Hasselhoff
Was my perception of these guys warped by me simply being younger and unfit?

>>76621297
body standards have changed to a ridiculous extent since ig. look at what passed for buff/sexy anytime pre-1995

1. Dalton
2. Brosnan
3. Connery

No one else matters

>>76621365
But ig guys are all on steroids. It manipulates our perception how men should look. We need to ban steroids.

>>76615057
>6'2
>not tall

>>76621177
Craig has a very subhuman face despite being blonde and blue-eyed. Russians in general look like white niggers.

>>76615030 (OP)
>just be an a list actor theory
damn bro u cracked it

>>76621554
I can't believe how many of you fucking retards are in this thread
Are you unable to compare the same set of assumptions for back then vs today?
SO LOOK AT A LIST ACTORS IN 2025 YOU FUCKING RETARD

>>76621573
AND YOU WILL SEE THEY ARE ALL FEMININE FAGGOTS

>>76616053
>I would never beat muh waifu.
t. Millennial or zoomer

>>76621177
>all the Bond actors did fit the physicality of an high paid banker,
This was considered athletic in the 60s and normal-sporty middle aged man until the 2010s.
Physique inflation is real.

> Craig, who looks physically like an KGB assassin
He looks like a SPECTRE assassin, because he looks like Red Grant from "From Russia With Love". One main critcism about Craig was that he didn't look like a James Bond, but a James Bond villain's henchman.

>>76621365
More like pre-2010. NOBODY wanted to be a massive bodybuilder before the 2010s.
Pic related was considered ultra-fit in the 90s.

>>76621547
oh this is the one, this is the look I get from women

>>76621636
>Physique inflation is real.
Not really. The 80s had roided up gigachads in every major movie. Zoomers don't know this because there was a reset in the 90s and early 2000s.

>>76621547
He's not much taller than everyone else in the movies, "big guy" characters are all taller than him.

>>76621638
>Pic related was considered ultra-fit in the 90s.
Are you fucking retarded? Arnold, Stallone, Van Damme, Lundgren etc were all still jacked and doing movies in the 90s. Highlander was a B-tier tv show that nobody watched.

>>76621642
Not at all.
Arnold, Stallone and Van Damme were anomalies, Arnold actually had to LOSE mass for Conan the Barbarian.

Bodybuilders were considered gay freaks until around 2010. And don't even get me started on powerlifters.
The average action star wasn't muscular by modern standards in the 80s, they were skinnyfat and DYEL like Bruce Willis, Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris.

Look at Arnold in your pic, with that form he would barely make a Men's Health cover nowadays. No chest, no definition.

Source: I'm old enough to have lived through the 80s

>>76621643
This is bait, but the average height of a white american male is 5'10 currently and people were shorter back when Connery was playing Bond.

>The CDC/National Center for Health Statistics published a report titled “Mean Body Weight, Height, and Body Mass Index: United States 1960-2002” which states that in 1960 the average height for adult men (aged 20-74) was about 5 feet 8 inches

>>76621645
t. Zoomer

The 80s ideal was slim like a tennis player. Bodybuilding was never mainstream until the 2010s. Gyms were a meeting point for freaks and gays.
Before SS, "getting in shape" meant going jogging and doing push ups every evening before going to bed. Modern ideas like training 5x per week would have been unthinkable.

t. started training in the late 80s

>>76621647
You're a larping zoomer. Arnold and Stallone were in basically every movie back then. Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris were just B-listers. Bruce Willis is the expection because he played everyman type roles.

Also, people knew Ronnie Coleman. I remember my friends in HS joking about him when I got into fitness in the 00s.

>>76621652
>t. Zoomer
Yes, you are, kid. People are fatter and more out of shape than ever. Bodybuilding is dead now. The last mainstream bodybuilder was Ronnie Coleman.

>>76621650
Americans aren't white, but watch those movies yourself. He looks normal sized, not very tall. A bit above average maybe, normal.

>>76621655
>when I got into fitness in the 00s.
You're about 20 years younger than me then.

>>76621660
>Americans aren't white
They were in the 60s when Connery was playing Bond.

>You're about 20 years younger than me then
If you're really that old, then you must realize how much more out of shape people are now compared to back then.

>>76621650
You know that James Bond is a British franchise, right?

>>76621663
>If you're really that old, then you must realize how much more out of shape people are now compared to back then.
Actually not really. Bodybuilding is more mainstream than ever, back in the 80s/90s, you basically never saw bodybuilders in public. Nowadays I see one once in a while.

People were slimmer back then because bulking and powerlifting weren't mainstream, they were probably fitter because they didn't sit in front of the computer all day, but lifting, gym culture etc. were not nearly as mainstream as today.

>>76621655
>Arnold and Stallone were in basically every movie back then
>Steven Seagal and Chuck Norris were just B-listers
>Also, people knew Ronnie Coleman
>1980s
Lmao

>>76621664
>In 1967, Mr Average was 5ft 7.5in tall, weighed 11st 8lbs and had a chest of 38 inches and a waist of 34 inches.

>>76621668
>Bodybuilding is more mainstream than ever
Lol no. The average person, even gymrats have no idea who the current Mr Olympia is.

>>76621672
Arnold and Sly were the highest paid actors of that era, retard.

>>76621647
Steven Seagal is a fuckin unit lad

>>76621650
>in 1960 the average height for adult men (aged 20-74) was about 5 feet 8 inches

>>76621642
>The 80s had roided up gigachads in every major movie
Yeah, in over the top extreme movies. That was the point.

>>76616086
I have shoulders like Charlton, always cringe when I see bulging traps

>>76621655
>Arnold and Stallone were in basically every movie back then.

That was considered kind of "campy" desu. As an oldfag the Chad archetype of the time for young guys was Harrison Ford in Temple of Doom.

>>76621659
Cbum exists you bum.

>>76615094
>hollywood didn't choose an average everyday man from that era, they picked a specific type of person to craft a narrative of manly masculinity.
Can you even read? That's the bigger issue for you

>>76615030 (OP)
Bond is a gaunt, femboy alcoholic low-t cringe-boy, you can give off his "masculine" vibe as you put it, tch

>>76615043
Craig is a close second to Brosnan.

>>76615094
Yes because actors are chosen in large part due to their looks.
An actor would be better looking than an average man? No fucking shit you colossal retard.

>just a handsome man with dry skin in his late 30s
How ugly are the lot of posters here?

>>76623646
Post body

>>76621645
lol, kid... NTA but they were looked at as larger than life extreme outliers, almost inhuman.

99.9% of "wow he's buff!!!" heartthrobs were DYEL as fuark by modern standards. not every movie had arnold or jcvd.

>>76615030 (OP)
the secret is lead
find the nearest abandoned smelter and play in the mud

>>76615030 (OP)
Go read bios/autobios of manly men. Hackworth for example. Then do what they did.

>>76618424
can someone explain why this shift in physiques happened? Today every chick who says they want a "Lean" boyfriend think of someone who is still on roids.What is even more bizarre, that men are silmutaneusly expected to have roided bodies and almost feminine pretty boy faces.

>>76621642

none of those "Thor" guys in fantasy movies in the 1980s were seen as normal hot physiques. They were an aberration in some far away lands with dragons and wizards. The sex symbols had normal lean physiques.