Thread 76639846

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no source talk
for Australians, ask on the https://ugltalk.is/ fitness forum. Not sure for others, but no source talk here.

I seriously hope you keep your stuff out of reach of children and roommates (aka you're mum, fucking loser)

What are you on?
how is it?

Thread question, at what point does TRT just become a cruise?

Does anyone else get metaphorically paralyzed from so many choices, and not know what to use?

Clen, Anavar, Anadrol, Tren, Deca, test only, dianabol etc. so many options

You don't need a test base all the time

There's nothing wrong with running dbol

You don't need to blast and cruise if you're not a professional bodybuilder, get a more fulfilling life

Bloodwork is not necessary unless you know you have an underlying condition, just listen to your body

>>76640050
terrible advice

>trying to make up for your dogshit genetics with massive doses of test

You're not seriously trying to tell me YOU can't get big on dbol and primo, right guys?

I want to start a cycle for olympic weightlifting and weightlifting in general recreatively once i have more free time next year to start training like an actual maniac.
What should i do ? Stanozolol ? Anavar ? Should i just go through russian lists of banned athletes and blast what they blast.

>>76639850
test deca dbol adrol, pretty simple

>>76640418
>Stanozolol
Will ruin your ligaments and tendons. Just start with test and go from there

What does everyone think about potential shortages? I'll be honest, I'm a little spooked now that test is slowing down. When it was just Primo and Mast I didn't give a shit. When Deca disappeared I got more nervous.

I'm sitting on a couple years of BnC but I'd hate to have to get raped by a clinic for trt+. At least the peptide spigot ain't ever getting turned off.

My hope is the chinks are so greedy that they keep plugging away at the game.

>>76641221
all raw manufacturing came from the guy who brought you fentanyl and hes currently not in business anymore, it will obviously get figured out but probably not any time soon

what happens to acne scars if you take steroid guys, derm told me to not take steroid and it will make it worse but i believe he is wrong and it could heal them. should i ignore him? he is paid by the state so i dont know if i can truly rely on it... when i ask other doctors they tell me they arent derm so they CANT answer that question (they refuse to). yes i retardmax but i need fraudian answer

>>76641221
My urologist sells test for similar prices as domestic UGLs and the blood tests are cheaper than independent labs
Down side is they tend to want to talk about why your e2 tested at 0, free test is 1200 and total is 3-4k

>>76641383
Your urologist’s tests are cheap, like UGL prices, but they’ll poke at weird results (like 0 E2, 1200 free T, and 3-4k total T). So, you get a deal, but also an unwanted chat about your numbers. It's a mix of convenience and interrogation

>>76640418
Winny is for cosmetic look and like anon said is dangerous if youre lifting heavy. But it gives an amazing look if lean makes your fibres twitch and spaz like joe asthetics kind of. Its an amazing drug for when you are near end of cut and being careful how you lift etc but damn nothing beats the look it gives you without changing anything, throw in winny and within two weeks you will see fibres twtiching everywhere.

>>76641269
> payed by the state
> tells you to stay small
> wants you insecure
> stops you from getting better
> stop you from pussy
Average statefagg. Don't listen anon, you know it'll help, I know it'll help, the state wants you miserable and ugly.

>>76640050
Wow way to shit up the thread early, fucking retard

>>76641269
if you have scars do microneedling and retinol (also spf), they will fade after a while. remember to read how to do it safely before starting

>>76641473
thank you, this is the push i needed
are you related to god?

so... in many countries they sell testosterone in pharmacies No prescription required.

how quickly testogel rises total test from like 400ng. and can you overdose on tesetogel, so that test rises up to 2000 ?

is there any downsides using testogel short periods like week or two, if hemoglobin is normal (hematocrit too most likely) and blood pressure too relatively normal

Would a 5ARI + AI combo like dutasteride + arimidex make for a worthwhile test boost?

>>76641674
This thread is for people who actually take test, not faggot ass gels that don't work

>>76641728
Not at all. Whatever test boost you get is just on paper. You won’t actually feel better or be more anabolic. Contrary to popular belief, estrogen is anabolic and DHT helps you make gains too with its CNS effects

>>76641885
i dont take either. but gels do work

anyways, is it possible to overdose on gel and how long does it take to reach, lets say 2000ng/nl levels? is it possible to reach such level with gel usage?

>>76642180
dunno about gels, but i don't see why applying more wouldn't raise your test higher. and, no, you don't overdose on it. is that even possible? ive never heard of such a thing. using it for a week or two is pointless. it'll drop your natural production, and it takes 4-6 weeks for the exogenous test to saturate and receptors to adjust to accommodate. it will take further months for your body to adjust things such as sleep, brain fog, and six months to fix erectile dysfunction

>>76642046
Yeah, that's what I assumed.
I don't really know where to take this question other than /fraud/, but I already posted last thread that my E2 has been borderline high (38.7) now I've done my hormones after starting dutasteride, however, it shouldn't really boost it by more than 20-25% meaning it's definitely already been above 30.
I've always been a volatile overemotional bitch with great skin, and I was wondering whether those are actually symptoms of high E or just regular mental illness and genetics. I know I'm missing SHBG and prolactin here.

Bonus question: Asking for a friend - his levels are T 487/E2 10/DHT 450 and he feels like shit, could it be the opposite in his case? He's also been taking MK-677 for about 2 months now and he's a redpilled smegma male retard so he won't even consider the possibility that it's been making him gradually feel worse or fucking with his hormones.

>>76639846 (OP)
I’m currently waiting on the results of my bloodwork. If I actually am low T and get prescribed test, take it with HcG, what are the logistics around it? Do you just take it forever? When you stop do all the gains go away? Can you just take HcG to get your balls working better? I am new to this world.

>>76642211
ok thanks. but dont the gels have super low half-life compared to injectables? so in a way, it would make sense that they start work much quicker. like already within days

>>76642268
make sure you check both free and total test at least.

trt alone (at least injectables) while they will raise your total test only within normal range (so no above 1000) they will raise your free test typically more so. so while your bloodwork will show your'e within your normal range, you actually much more potent. and your free test even on trt are much higher than they would naturally ever be

>>76642276
There is other stuff on the test, it’s for thyroid and some other things but I think both are on there, picrel is the last time I took a test like a year and a half ago.

Injected 500 test, 400 EQ and 300 deca today
Ask me anything

>>76639846 (OP)
>, at what point does TRT just become a cruise
The moment it makes your test levels above the nominal range

>>76640395
Dyel here
What's the side effects of dbol and primo?

>>76641269
It's going to get worse
It's one of the most common side effects

>>76641394
>>76641383
E2 0 can be really bad

>>76642389
What tests you do to keep your health in check?

>>76642270
just because it's in your blood doesn't mean you're body knows what to do with it. your body needs time to adjust to be able to use what's available. you can front load (take more at the start) to get that process moving sooner. thats why people like taking orals in the first few weeks to skip that wait time altogether. feed one process while the other catches up

>>76642389
atta girl. twice a week?

>>76642389
who hurt you

>>76642541
Like a full panel? CBC, CMP, E2, free test, total test, shbg, progesterone covers most of the bases
Just for health is usually lipids and an occasional blood pressure reading
Regular cardio and protective supplements are important, should go without saying

>>76639846 (OP)
Is it easy to get steroids in Korea?

>>76642526
Gains

>>76642615
Everyone, may as well get huge

>>76642618
>protective supplements
Like what?

>>76642622
I got TRT from the Seoul international clinic in Itaewon

>>76642389
ok so deca helps your joints and is lest estrogen causing, right? what's EQ do?

>>76642389
Would make sense to cycle without test, but with EQ?
I don't want my hair to fall

>>76642742
NAC, TUDCA, fish oil, coq10, d3+k2, berberine
There's probably more

>>76640395
this is from 1947, they were completely natty and just jacked from fighting germans and japs

>>76642752
I wouldn't. Would crash your e2. Always a test base and add ancillary compounds to it.

>>76642268
>hcg
just pin test first before adding that in

>>76642526
gyno and hairloss, pin deca

>>76642747
turns you blood into soup

>>76642526
dbol turns you into a woman
the only side effect of primo is gains

>>76642752
just use RU and dut and pin test. EQ only cycles can work, but the large ester means it takes a very long time to saturate, meanwhile your E2 will only keep dropping. if you can find it, boldenone cyp is a better option.

>>76642747
Strength and gains without a lot of water retention, better cardio, better pumps and vascularity, enhanced appetite, when properly dosed it behaves similar to AI so it's possible to run cycles with it when you otherwise would need AI for e2 control, mild enhanced aggression, focus and mood without the insomnia of tren
Cons are part of the reason it makes cardio better is it increases RBC count which at some point makes cardio worse in addition to causing high hemocrit and blood pressure, it can crash e2 if your ratio of aromatizing compounds to EQ is not high enough, sometimes it lowers appetite and the AI effect can be individual as well
Great for lean vascularity without a ton of weight gain from water retention
Most people fuck up their e2 and say it is horrible, gave them anxiety, got them injured, but that's very much a skill issue
It also makes your cum taste like horse cum, but that's both a positive and a negative

>>76643219
>taste like horse cum
bro?

>>76642618
Why the progesterone?
Also wouldn't you need to measure prolactin since you take deca?

>>76643075
Why? The point is to enhance testicular function while the exogenous testosterone suppresses it, correct?

>>76643846
Good catch, I meant prolactin

>>76643915
because fuck you

>>76644043
Is that your weekly dose? I assume not since you said you injected all that today?
What's your deca upper limit before you need caber?
I just started npp myself and only got p5p on hand not caber so curious to see how far I can take it.

>>76640050
>You don't need a test base all the time
I think this is a correct statement
The recent obsession with TEST BASE WITH EVERYTHING from reddit looks weird
>Bloodwork is not necessary
I disagree
>just listen to your body
Only applies to an experienced juicer. A newbie doesn't understand what's the body "telling" him. You need to know how your "feelings" correlate with your actual blood panel

Plotting my next cycle
The main compound will be EQ, I liked it. For the T ester I'm on the fence. Last time I used test P, but I fucking hated pinning T eod. What are better alternatives that I can pin at least twice a week (thoughts on sustanon?)? What are other good esters?
Also can I run an oral (I like tbol) for more than 6 weeks? I want this cycle be 16 weeks and just 6 weeks of an oral seems too little

>>76644064
Technically it's a frontload dose
Somewhat individual but around 400, can be as high as 600 or low as 200
One key detail is usually e2 has to be high with it for high prolactin to give symptoms

my source was out of cyp 200 so I had to get cyp 300
how much worse will the pip feel? obviously going to cope but just want to know what to expect.

Should I run test while cutting if im a fat fuck? Want to get muscle asap.

>>76644250
about 50% worse

>>76644480
If you want, but only a cruise dose is needed
You'd get more benefit from a glp1
glp1>test>hgh
All three work well together too

>>76644517
Glp1 is helping but want to gain at least some muscle

>>76644517
What about glp1, test, hgh, and primo

>/fraud/:
>"guys is it possible to overdose on testosterone gel?"

>serious forums:
https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/bloods-after-8-years-on-tren-non-stop.166266/

>>76642805
Thank you mate

>>76643120
>if you can find it, boldenone cyp is a better option.
I can find literally everything where I live

>>76644062
Nah, fuck you

Hello sisters

Has anyone here looked into or maybe even had experience with microdosing shit like coke or benzedrine before working out or doing martial arts training??

I wageslave in healthcare and my schedule is fucked and time for training and recovery is pretty limited
and I’m just wondering what you guys think in general about whether it actually helps or if it’s just me being retarded

>>76644625
Based

>>76644517
GLP-1, Test & GH is the holy trinity of getting lean.

>>76644984
what if I cant afford gh

>>76644613
Probably overkill, really depends how fat you are
imo better to run a higher calorie deficit, get to a decent bodyfat quicker then start at legit blast if you want to be more jacked
you won't die though, just waste some money
test is only there to let you run a higher deficit and be done quicker
Could you eat just at or below maintenance and lose fat while gaining muscle on some extra gear, sure but its far more complex and prone to error
KISS

>>76644986
then don't use it?
frauding isn't for the poors just fyi

>>76645007
I have to lose a lot to get to a decent body fat %. Over 80 lbs. gonna take forever . Thought I could do something in between

>>76644986
Mk677

>>76644986

It's like .88 per IU. That's like $2.50 a day if you're pinning 3 IU. Under $80 per month.

>>76644984
DNP

>>76644083
Test enan or cyp, don't like blends
Run oral as long as it feels good. Could do 6 weeks on, 4 weeks off, 6 weeks on

>>76644250
Shouldn't be any pip. Nothing crazy about 300mg concentration

>>76645157
>tfw live in country where it's 20 per IU

>>76645474
Buy from China, they make it all anyway