Thread 76709274

How do I prevent hairloss

you either
>have the right genetics and don't do anything
or
>start balding, hit a certain point, then shave it off forever

breaking your dick or paying $$$$ to stave it off for a few years is pointless

>>76709274 (OP)
I can actually grow hair back because my diet is good and i try to keep cortisol low(intense sessions while not well rested).

Be born to different parents

>>76709284
What is your diet like

>>76709274 (OP)
go back and roll the genetic dice again

>>76709300
Collagens 1-4, fats/vits, carbs high enough all day(not going hungry), regular enough fish/red meat(superstitious idk if its necessary), aromatics/herbs, water and salt congruent with carbs.

So typically maybe not everyhing every day but:
>eggs butter protein carbs in the morning
>carbs+protein+butter/evo/all color vegetables for most meals
>some soup/sauce preferably more than 1x a day
>both shit like steak/chicken and tougher cuts(collagen is practically skin/stock)
>milk/juices
>sushi/shrimp/seared fish
>different fats like avocado sesame oil evoo

And yeah thats typically it. Even if you dont bald stress can thin hair and itll look like mpb because those are just the thinnest hair follicles. Im also relatively young.

>>76709280
I'm not shaving it off. That is nu-onions boy material. I'm slicking it back and wearing a gold chain necklace, bracelet and a Rolex root beer.
At most I will buzzcut it for awhile.
The shave it bald crowd is fucking psycho, it's just another psyop to get people to pay out the ass for unnecessary shit.

>>76709300
>dietary collagen vs production of said chemicals are a debateabke topic

There are at least 28 types of collagen identified in the human body, with types I, II, and III being the most abundant. Type I is found in skin, tendons, and bones; type II is primarily in cartilage; and type III is present in skin and blood vessels.

>>76709320
I'm not bald but have noticed thinning so want to get on top of it. I am also Orthodox so I am basically vegan for half of the year. I eat similarly to this but need to get more vegetables. If you had to eat vegan for like 2 months what would you eat

>>76709300
And also say you dont have he genetics but pulled your hair out or were starving and dehydrated in the desert, theres like minoxidil and finasteride or whatever. One maintains it he other regrows it. I say if you have the genes for it because continuous use causes low test/dht and ed, among other problems im assuming. Like ive had my hair thin out like that in my 20s working 14hr days and walking an hour in the snow and shit.

>>76709331
>orthodox
just wear the tiny hat to cover up the bald spot anon

HRT

being insecure about your hairline and/or bald spot is gay. just shave it. if you're fit enough then girls will dig it.

I'm going to switch to a biotin shampoo like pic related and start using minoxidil 5%

>>76709339
shaving it bare is reddit

I think we can all agree that shaving it is not the way to go. Being insecure is also not the way but that doesn't mean we can't take steps to make our appearance better, it's just like our physique being tuned up

>>76709345
being insecure about your hair is reddit kiddo

>>76709343
>using overpriced gay ass woman shampoo instead of manly and clearly superior pill form
Tell me you are white without saying so

>>76709355
shaving it bald is as insecure as trying to save it/hide it. barring terrible hairline pulls most balding dudes should just adopt short manly business styles from the 70s-2000s. I'm going to be implementing the tony soprano personally. Or have a buzzcut. But the shave bald and grow a beard is reddit.

>>76709320
Same shit plus:
>research aminos for protein
>fatty acid chains
Thise are what carry nutrients as your brain signals the endocrine system to produce hormones. Animals digestive tracts can extract said compounds and turn them into shit humans can digest. Id just get on eggs and fish eggs wild caught im guessing.

But youll feel insanely healthier eating animal products its a night and day difference, maybe hunt for meat(cholesterol is in meat and fish but you need a ton of it). Ethically youre saving them from being eaten ass first so it doesnt rot as fast, and yes fish feel pain or at least stress hormones. Id maybe bulk into passover or whatever it is as you dont see morbidly obese people shedding hair doing liss and eating rice cakes and water.

>>76709358
it's literally the same price as most others and you sound like you are projecting and probably use Manly products like old spice or squatch full of retard chemicals kek

>>76709331
Id also avoid hard hard cardio and low sleep, look at david goggins or jocko willinks hairline they probably doesnt even bald. Youll see better gains reducing chronic high cortisol too, more energy.

>>76709359
>shaving it bald is as insecure as trying to save it/hide it
>t. still a boy

>>76709300
I left out calcium and other vits and minerals

>>76709379
I'll try salad maxxing with lots of green smoothies. fats will be avocado, coconut oil and I guess peanut butter if that even counts. water, b vitamins, minerals, salt, pomegranate juice, olives, you get the idea. high quality bread for carbs, we can eat shellfish so will get oysters, mussels, shrimp, crab and calamari in there. fish eggs.

sleep and stress will be under control. I use nicotine so I may cut it down if that is going to cause problems. probably ditching alcohol

>>76709377
Im almost 30. Ever notice in comments for the guys who shave it bald always say it looks great even if the guy had a fucked head shape, or had enough hair to pull off the George Costanza. These people are insecure.

>>76709397
>almost 30
>still insecure about your hair and not shaving it
it's time to grow up little man

>>76709274 (OP)
I'm doing basically ALL the topicals with at least SOME evidence BESIDES fin and min, kek...
>mint water
>milk thistle
>mulberry root oil
>chuanxiong extract
>hemp oil
>sesame oil
>ephedra water extract
>angelica sinensis extract
>ginseng extract
>azelaic acid
>arginine
>vitamin B3
>vitamin B6
>vitamin D3
>vitamin E
>zinc sulfate
>fisetin
>NMN
>caffeine
>cetirizine
>latanoprost
>oryza sativa extract
>melatonin
>raspberry extract
>hyaluronic acid
>licorice water extract
>glycolic acid
>salvia miltiorrhiza water extract
>apple cider vinegar
>bromelain
>turmeric
>glycine max isoflavone extract
>DIM
>KX-826
>ketoconazole
>singlet oxygen
>chlorine dioxide solution
>adapalene
>hydrocortisone
>triamcinolone acetonide

>>76709405
I'm not insecure. I'm just not going to shave it bald. I'm going to rock the same hairstyle my dad had. It's ok to have bald spots. I'm a man, I don't give a shit. I'm not joining the reddit bald and beard club

>>76709406
give me a qrd on what has actually helped and tell me what shampoo I need you are probably growing luscious locks at this point

do you confer diet is a major factor

guys I washed my hair with egg yolks and apple cider vinegar sometimes you gotta learn the hard way

>>76709407
>I'm not insecure!
beards are gay too bud

>>76709392
>drinking on empty stomach
>getting actually fucked up
Oh with fish im pretty sure theres basically no detriment, butter eggs and milk are all you really need if youre super on point. Cereal for iron is huge to get mainly animal fats with, i know lobster has the most cholesterol and scallops are probably fattier.

The big thing is fats carrying nutrients that and being at a bulk consistently to not start the starvation mode(carbed up long term) process is what get your hormones to max production along with lifting ofc. Collagen is protein and estro is responsible for collagen synthesis so not too low bf% or below maintenance on rest days.

>>76709416
So you think guys should just be bald and clean shaven. Kek

>>76709274 (OP)
Only a DHT blocker will prevent hair loss.

>>76709392
>peanut butter
I still think some monounsaturated fat is necessary, but idk how the fat content/fatty acid chains are with vegan/pescatarian or of its possible to even have complete proteins/amino acid chains without animal products. Ill eat veggie protein if i had collagens since theyre also an incomplete amino acid chain.

>>76709422
I fuckin grow back hair from atressful periods of life

>>76709427

I mean if you have a normal immune system.

>>76709421
only big unkempt beards like this are gay. they're ugly and most of the time are being kept by guys trying (unsuccessfully) to posture as masculine.

>>76709425
what do you think about consuming tofu

>>76709413
the highest potency 5-ARIs there are the mint water and milk thistle; the highest potency growth stimulants are angelica sinensis, chuanxiong and mulberry root... but the whole stack obviously works better than those alone, lol.

Vitamin C and fisetin look like the two dietary chemicals with the most impact given their effects on DKK1 and CXCL12 respectively.

>>76709422
lol fake news, CXCL12 inhibitors mog em all day across ALL types of alopecia, not just androgenic.

>>76709429
I agree. That stuff is gay unless you're like an old professor at a college or LSD chemist who lives in the woods.
But extremely well kept beards are also gay.

>>76709274 (OP)
You can't fight against genetics. Enjoy it while you can.

t. former hairy one

>>76709416
This. s.o.y.cucks have ruined beards. Even the dudes that aren't faggots, the beard just screams. "I love cock". It's how these closet fags give their boyfriends a tickle when they knobgobble

The only pseudoscience part of nofap i believe is that cumming too many times in a day leads to hairloss. Also lack of cardio + poor diet.
Hairloss is inevitable d/t genes, so fix what you can (above) and if youre still losing it well then oh well. Atleast your balding with good health now.

why would you prevent it? t.bald guy

>>76710165
hair is associated with youthfulness

>>76709274 (OP)
>How do I prevent hairloss
You don't, either embrace it or buzzcut once a week.
If you're into men (which you most likely are if you're on /fit/) you can shave it off, grow a thick "manly" beard and catch aids.

>>76709274 (OP)
Caffeine makes you go bald more than any other chemicals you come into contact with
Other than that, the most important thing is to stop caring

>>76709274 (OP)
Finasteride

>>76709367
Just buy a b vitamin multivitamin.

>>76709343
Right, but both are useless if you're not on fin/duta.

>>76709322
>I'm slicking it back and wearing a gold chain necklace, bracelet and a Rolex root beer.
Cope. You aren't that guy. You would be LARPing and that's much cringier.

>>76709274 (OP)
The amount of broscience here is palpable. The only way you can mitigate hairloss is with hairloss prevention drugs.

Anyone here had good results from using topical minox on their eyebrows?

>>76709368
Get a permission from your priest to eat fish on fasting days, he will agree. Tell him the truth that you work out and you are worried about hair loss because your schedule is very demanding. You can also eat shellfish year around anyway

>>76710552 meant for >>76709331

>>76709416
>>76709633
Holy fucking shit, /fit/ hates beards now? Should I shave this shit?

>>76710562
looks hot, sexy, sweaty. why don't you take another pick for me, blow me a kiss

>>76710562
Did you grow it for validation from /fit/?

>>76709274 (OP)
I already lost all of my hair, so don't know how much worth my recommendations would have.

>>76709274 (OP)

there is no prevention. just let it happen.

>>76709406
which ones are you doing topically vs orally?

>>76710552
>You can also eat shellfish year around anyway
...unless your Rabbi objects?

>>76710874
lol the post you quote literally says they're TOPICAL

>>76709280
>breaking your dick
fantasy

>>76709274 (OP)
0,5/mg fin + topical min morning/evening every day.
My temples were thinning FAST in my early twenties but I managed to save it. Well into my late twenties now with my mane intact.
My advice depending on your current hair state
>NW2
Best time to start if you wanna save all of your hair. Fin doesn't do anything for your temples (in my experience), it's only really for the crown and the overall fullness of your hair. I'd start with 0,5 mg and only up it to 1mg if you experience serious hair loss around your crown.
Use min around your scalp to save your temples. I also use a headband to further isolate the solution and prevent it from trickling down. IMO this is the single most important area for your overall looks. Having thin/bald temples has a huge (negative) visual impact.
>NW3
Not an optimal starting point but not too late. You might have to spread out your min depending on how much hair you've lost.
>NW4
It's over. Hair transplant with an eventual transition into fin/min depending on your doctor's recommendation.
Not saying min/fin won't work but most of the time your hair will end up looking like it's not quite full but also not completely bald. It just ends up looking like some health condition. Not good.
>Just go bald bro
Don't listen to them. Going bald is the single most detrimental thing you can do to your overall looks unless you're in the 99th percentile. You'll end up looking old and unattractive.
You can save it. Other than dry skin from the min (due to the glycol in the solution) I haven't had any side effects. It's all in your head. I always assumed that the few people who suffer from sides are faggots with defective genes. If you're a healthy male specimen then you're fine.
I wouldn't have gotten close to the amount of attention from women I get at this age if I was bald/balding. Claiming anything else is cope.

>>76709406
some researchers think milk thistle works because of its antioxidant properties, to the point they tried vitamin c and got good results.

made me curious so I looked up NAC and sure enough sone studies report positive results with NAC and hair loss. You may want to stack those too

>>76709274 (OP)
Daily humiliation ritual for the rest of your life: buy an expensive electric shaver just to waste your time shaving your head daily just to still be fuckless and just look like a 5oylent-chugging 2edditor ready & willing to 'be a better man' and babysit some fat wife's mixed-race children.
This is what you gymceled all those years for.

>>76711012
I doubt he's taking every one of those topically

>>76711110
>I always assumed that the few people who suffer from sides are faggots with defective genes
Nigger you're balding. You're the faggot with defective genes

>>76709274 (OP)
If you want to PREVENT (NOT REGROW) then saw palmetto works and basically with no sides. It doesn't lower serum DHT. Prostate DHT -30% (vs -90% for finasteride) so it's like a natural very mild finasteride.
THE OTHER OPTION is making topical finasteride yourself, there's a study (Mazzarella et al) which showed that 0.005% 2mL finasteride per day stops androgenetic alopecia while NOT lowering systemic DHT. Basically you microdose fin but keep it on your scalp only.

>>76709274 (OP)
We should come up with a website or app where you can it questions like this, that millions of others have asked, and it stores the answers online and the app crawls the web and gives you results to the question you asked. We could name the app after a big ass number like, "quintillion" or something.

>>76709406
How do you manage this? Do you make a potion in bulk for the topical stuff and just take a bunch of pills for the oral stuff? Do you do this every day? Genuinely curious because this seems to be a good stack.

>>76710562
looks good bro