Thread 76718745

/fit/bros it's so OVER for you now...

I can’t even imagine the warm wet feeling of wrestling her tongue with my own as our fingers are interlocked and I’m balls deep in her soaking wet blood-hot vagina

>>76718745 (OP)
>giving a fuck about other people's opinions
>women, no less

ngmi

do cardio, lift weights, and eat healthy and its good to see japanese east asian men fuck blonde white girls, brunette white girls, japanese asian girls, ginger white girls, ebony girls, mixed race girls, brown girls, latina girls, and etc

>>76718790
lol ok brownie

>>76718745 (OP)
1st and 2nd options are beta bucks, 3 and 10s are alpha fucks for her.

>Women are disgusted by roidtrannies
Evolutionary psychology at work.

>>76718948
It's fucking insane to me the doublethink a lot of anons have about women and their opinions of male physique. On the one hand we have
>Women are literal childish retards who are unable to appreciate dedication and effort, largely speaking. They're delusional about relative strength levels and the protection it could provide them and they frequently choose skeleton abusers over actually strong autists who could/would protect and respect them
But they also seem to believe on the other hand
>Women appreciate and want men who are as big as possible because strength and evolutionary reasons
Can't have both. Seems pretty obvious that at the very least the finishing line for "nice body" comes a lot earlier for women than gay men on the Internet are going to tell you. At a certain point you're only going to impress and get extra mires beyond the norm from gay men, because they're the ones who appreciate all that work and the male physique enough to understand what you've done.
Please also understand that gay men are MASSIVE shameless perverts and absolutely will tell you constantly to get as big as possible so they have a bigger pool of men to creep on in the locker room/on the floor. "Isn't that insanely petty and delusional?" Yes it is but they do it anyway. If you've ever had a gay close friend or relative, you know this for sure kek

>>76718959
Mate it is incredibly simple. They are attracted to signs of good genetics for their baby.

If you have an unnatural physique that looks grotesk that turns them off. Just like if you appear tall walking in elevator shoes.

Do you understand? They are attracted to signs of good genes and repulsed by attempts to fake good genes.

>>76719013
That's what I was trying to say initially, despite my apparently shutting writing.
My greater point was that it is gay men who spread the ridiculous lies that everything goes farther than this. It's a weird ass obsfucation of nature, when not being an outright malicious lie in the first place. Anons should identify and ignore them because they're bad faith posters. They'll frequently pretend to be understanding while pushing these same ideas. It's important to notice the consistent message and not just the tone of the writing if it is to be properly ignored.

>>76718863
+ me in the corner watching haha j/k

>>76718863
you can't?

>>76719044
I think it was just coomer irony
>I can't even imagine [Vividly imagined scenario]

>>76718745 (OP)
>women prefer medium sized slightly built guys, not skeletons, roidfreaks, or overly shredded
Wow. Imagine my shock. It's not like they always say this

>>76718745 (OP)
>trusting a woman

>>76719142
The behavior of women also proves this. Look at the celebrities young women thirst over. Even in the past, it was the otter mode types.
>inb4 why do you give a fuck about women's opinions?
Why are you on a thread about women giving their opinions then? Then it's not relevant to you

>>76718790
kek

>>76719157
>Look at the celebrities young women thirst over.
Photography is bullshit because actual size isn't a factor. They even try to make manlets look bigger. As a tallchad who's been skinny and jacked, the latter is better. Never got those "are you really here?" looks skinny.

>>76718745 (OP)
What the fuck is that fake cloud fire hazard shit on the ceiling?

u mfs still clueless, the most important thing if face, if u handsome it doesnt matter what body you have. And we all know your face is at its best when you lean

Why are muscular/fit physiques even considered attractive?

If all attraction is rooted in biology (wide hips + breasts indicating a woman will be a good reproductive mate), why are muscles even considered attractive when a natural, healthy male is thin and lean?

If you look at isolated hunter gatherer tribes (i.e what humans used to live like), the men are ottermode at best. Humans didn't have the resources or nutrition to develop muscular physiques up until the last few thousand years or so

>>76720336
>Humans didn't have the resources or nutrition to develop muscular physiques up until the last few thousand years or so
Debatable, but something doesn't have to have existed to be attractive. They didn't have Lambos or 4000cc silicone boobs in cave days either.

>>76718745 (OP)
You’re not listening to women SAY they want again are you? Nevermind that listening to women at all is retarded but it’s what they DO you need to pay attention to. Look at the cover of any “romance novel” aka goonnovel and you’ll see some man or creature with a not natty physique.
Pic related

>>76720336
>Why are muscular/fit physiques even considered attractive?

Naturally, they aren't. Bodybuilders were considered circus freaks by womenkind for a long time, it is only relatively recently that excessive muscles has reached some kind of cultural significance that women now consider it a relevant indicator of a man's attractiveness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvGgYcpSi8U

>>76720527
Honestly, yeah, I can believe women don’t like the full roid freak look, but acting like they’d pick a skinny twig over a decently fit or muscular guy with the same face is pure lie

>>76720527
This only appeals to a minority of women
>source: rewatch the yt slop that was talking about the event featuring this book, especially the part where they say it was a colossal flop

>>76718863
What is blood-hot? Blood isn't hot.

>>76720751
If you stopped fucking day-old corpses, you would know, blood from someone who is alive is indeed hot.

>>76720527
funny, sh0eonhead completely missed the point. Most women recognize this slop is low-grade low-brow porn. The much more interesting conversation is about the standard booktok/women's lit more or less being porn as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffvRhsViyIQ
(at no point was milking farm mentioned)

>>76718745 (OP)
>thinly veiled woman hate thread
>>>/r9k/

>>76718959
Not making a jab against you, anon, but
>there are people on 4chan who unironically listen to /fit/ and /r9k/ anons when it comes to anything related to fitness, women, dating, passion, and hobbies

You're all discounting the progression of your age and how it factors into what women want from your physique.
>under 25
Lean-pill boy-max. Abs over mass. Start figuring out your wardrobe, but you can get away with stupid clothes for now.
>25 ~ 35
Athletic. Lean mass added onto that boymode. You still need abs, but more importantly than that it's time to learn to dress yourself. Button down shirts with the sleeves rolled up and nice shoes.
>35 ~ 65
Dadbod. Actually fit dadbod, not the stupid things you see posted online. The bodyfat can slide up to 15% ~ 20%, but don't get a gut, and you need to stack on as much strength and lean mass as you can. At this point you wear what she buys for you (within reason).

>>76720889
>listening to women
JUST

>>76720751
Whoops

>>76720336
>If you look at isolated hunter gatherer tribes (i.e what humans used to live like), the men are ottermode at best.
How do we look at their physiques?

>>76718745 (OP)
Something I have noticed about women is that when you ask them what they want or like they always give the opposite answer. You see them act disgusted towards something and the next man they bring to their bed has the traits she used to speak against. It's almost as if they want to filter out the insecure or the weak willed men that would change themselves to be appealing for women. Either that or they just don't want to be seen as the low hanging fruit that can be taken easily through a one step process, like "girl likes X thing so If I become more like that then I win".

Never mind the psychology trickery, If you want to know what women like just watch what they choose, not what they say. I have seen all kind of body types get laid, from obese men to skinnyfat. Jacked dudes get laid as well but my final conclusion is that anyone who is too skinny, too fat or too muscular gets laid because of something else; this can be wealth, personality or simply the fact the dude was in the right spot at the right moment for that girl.

most men prefer skinny girls too so what's the issue with her rankings?

>>76720594
This is a great question.

The muscular, lean phenotype is not unknown. Plenty of tropical, primitive people have low levels of bodyfat with decent musularity. Yes, some are bone thin, but others have "athletic" levels of muscularity. So its not like that version of a strong, healthy look is completely unknown to the natural world.

Away from the tropics, I would assume that larger, heavier but muscular bodies with higher bodyfat would be preferable and more desirable. Large, strong men with decent bodyfat would be better providers and protectors. So I can see why big strong bodies w 20% bodyfat would be inherently attractive. This seems to hold true today. Im big enough to look like I lift in clothing, even in a sportscoat, and women frequently comment.

But actual bodybuilder (freaky muscle, feaky lowfat) physiques seem so unnatural that it could only be an example of jewelry or ornamentation causing women to look. That its a cutural/social thing like tattoos, or hairstyles or other ornaments, that there is no real reaosn to like, other than its a demonstration of status and wealth. Nick Walker looks like shit but Im sure hes gets bitches who like his freaky look.

>>76720926
I think this is true. At least to my experience.

>>76721930
I don't. Skinny at 23 vs jacked sort of "dadbod" at 45, and 2nd is better to all ages of female. So either big is better or old is better.

>>76721046
Women lack the neurochemical architecture to know what they want. Their response is based on memes and comfy associations, or socialized ideas. Their actual desires are based on animal instincts

>>76721046
Women, being much weaker than men, learned to survive by tearing down men. Everything they do is trickery.

>>76722164
Attaching to them is more effective. Tearing them down is group-dysfunctional because another group will dominate yours.

>>76722240
Well it's a two step process. First they tear your ego down, and then they 'fix' you.

>>76718959
Its just dyels with muscle saying that women dont like big muscles.
They use giant roided freaks on stage at 3% bodyfat as their example of this.
Look at all the retards here who cant tell if someone roids or not, what do think women think?
I told a varbie in my gym I was natty and she believed me.

>>76722254
Don't let them because it's no win. Women will test you to see if you will take charge and if you won't, they will, and they'll hate you for it.

>>76718959
Its just dyels with no muscle saying that women dont like big muscles.
They use giant roided freaks on stage at 3% bodyfat as their example of this.
Look at all the retards here who cant tell if someone roids or not, what do think women think?
I told a varbie in my gym I was natty and she believed me.

>>76722380
When I was younger and very thin but sort of fit, certain ladies were very into it, but I think it was more of a weird body image slash anorexia type thing, like they were jealous of me being skinny, rather than being primally attracted to it. They admired the adonis belt, simple as. But these were all mentally fucked up college chicks, not exactly wife material. Just data for the set

>>76720527
>it's a real book
>it's a very real book
>it's a really very popular book
Have we really strayed that far from God?

>>76722380
My comment was about faggots
I didn't mention roids at all, so calm down tranny.

This thread is funny. You guys couldn’t even build the fake natty physique that women prefer (and consider “natural”, btw) if you took as much gear as you wanted

Meanwhile you have people unironically posting “roidtranny”. The most attractive phhsjaue to women as a whole is a mix of prime David laid and prime Jeff seid. 6’ 205-210 lb 11% bf. That physique gives you a shredded mid section, defined taper, boulder shoulders, but not too much mass in arms/chest/legs to look like you compete in bodybuilding. It’s what people imagine when you say “professional athlete who gets paid millions”. You’re never getting that natural

>>76720889
>Most women recognize this slop is low-grade low-brow porn
Then why the fuck are they buying it? Male equivalent writing gets 300 views on AO3 and dies there while women's shit becomes best selling books and award winning movie series.

>>76723288

Oh I didn’t mention it, but I really hope I don’t need to say it:

Women are fucjing RETARDED. That isn’t an exaggeration, women are a creature that don’t even KNOW what they want. They get to their 60s and unironically believe they want a nice guy and that they just “got unlucky”. It’s really no surprise they were never given equality for 98% of civilization. They are on the level of children. DONT LISTEN TO WHAT THEY SAY. Would you take medical advice from a 14 year old?

>>76720336
>If all attraction is rooted in biology
it isnt

women love big arms and wide shoulders ( they dont know its the lats that give the wide shoulder look) its just that simple you faggots, that shit for them is like tits and ass for us

Women with small upper lip big lower lip are so cute

>>76718745 (OP)
1 is literally just peak natty

>>76720527
I read this, the plot is terrible but I jerked off a few times.

>>76718790
>valuing the opinions of women

Women are overrated, trust me every man learns this in the end. Lift for yourself and your bros so they know they've got soneone to back them up in a crisis that's all the matters, in a 100% non gay way.

WHEN WILL YOU LEARN