Thread 76723287

Does alcohol really fuck up your gains if consumed in moderation?

>>76723287 (OP)
define moderation first

>>76723287 (OP)
no because doing something in moderation inherently means doing so in a way that it doesnt mess up your gains. realistically for alcohol to have absolutely 0 impact on your gains the maximum you could drink would be something like 2 glasses of wine a week, preferably on different days. if you drink more than this it will reduce your gains but you can still make gains while drinking. if you drink heavily it will have a larger negative impact on your gains than pretty much anything else unless you are doing heroin as well or something.

Empty carbs (makes you fat)
Alcohol is a neurotoxin (stress on CNS makes you physically weaker, and you aren't stressing it, you're killing it)
Phytoestrogens (don't worry bro, failing liver will make the blood test show insane test values in 40 years)
>>76723306
Alcohol in moderation is no alcohol at all, there's no safe amount.

>>76723312
this faggot is too weak to drink even 2 glasses of wine a week without it affecting his gains

>>76723287 (OP)

It depends on the volume consumed and the frequency, but once a week or so I'd say is fine. Personally I go out from time to time and have gotten ass from being fit, because why put all this work and time into building a car, if youre not gonna take it out and get a few mires. Don't ever stop working out and trying, but life is meant to be lived, nobody ever sat dying and thought about wishing they'd spent more time lifting... just do that part earlier in the day.

>>76723315
post body

>>76723317
sure I'm in this pic >>76723287 (OP) enjoying a strong glass of liquor now post yours

>>76723301
40-60 g of pure alcohol one night per week and being sober the other 6 days:

>3-4 cans of 5º beer
>3 glasses of wine
>2 glasses and a shot of whiskey

>>76723322
Can you post any good looking men who drink alcohol and who aren't roidtrannies?
Also I'd prefer if they didn't have issues with heart or liver.

>>76723287 (OP)
as usual ask a DYEL he will scream no no it will kill all gains forever, then ask a built dude and he will say just have a drink you pussy faggot, many such cases

>>76723324
that's definitely gonna impact your gains somewhat yeah, probably the next couple days I'd guess

>>76723324
this will affect your gains but not by a huge amount. plenty of people in good shape who have a drink every now and then, even if it does temporarily slow down their gains.

>>76723355
>your body has tolerance for slop, that means slop isn't bad for you
lol k, next you will start microdosing cyanide or what

>>76723412
are you retarded? i literally said it will affect your gains. that means i said its bad for you. you dont have to completely abstain from all of lifes pleasures just to be fit, even if those pleasures are minor setbacks.

>>76723330
>>76723316
have got it right.

>>76723427
>alcohol
>pleasure
I wish I was as braindead as you, then I wouldn't have to worry about losing braincells with poison.
>literally kills your brain
>less braincells, less thinking, less emotion, less pain
wow, retards truly are happiest.

>>76723287 (OP)
It does. There is no "safe" dose of alcohol, weed, or any other easy pleasures

What do people mean when alcohol brings them pleasure?

>>76723287 (OP)
Only drink socially and in moderation, and you'll probably be fine. The social gains are every bit as important as the rest.
>inb4 "what kind of loser needs to drink to have fun with his friends"

>>76723429
jesus get a life you pathetic cunt lmao fucking hell

>>76723429
Maybe one day when you turn 18 you'll make some friends who invite you out for a couple of drinks and you'll realise that life is there to be enjoyed.

>>76723439
>retard 80IQ P-zombie needs alcohol to have fun or feel great or talk to people
>g-get a life!
kys

>>76723441
None of my friends smoke or drink alcohol because I don't talk to normiecattle.

>>76723444
yeah you and your friends just go on raids in world of warcraft in separate dingy bedrooms and then have a wank before you go to sleep.

>>76723448
I don't remember asking about your childhood lil bro

>>76723475
the classic "no u" comeback. if you had a drink once in a while maybe you would actually be able to banter enough to come up with something at least a little bit funny as a retort

>>76723287 (OP)
Basically no negative to muscular gain, just empty calories.

>>76723517
>if you had lower IQ you'd be smarter
cool story bro, don't forget to drink more alco for your next retarded cope reply
>>76723548
Go drunk to the gym and show us how well you lift.

>>76723590
https://academic.oup.com/alcalc/article/59/4/agae035/7683100
>The present study suggests that higher adolescent IQ may predict a higher likelihood of moderate or heavy drinking in midlife, but fewer binge-drinking episodes.

sobercels absolutely fucking BTFO holy shit

>>76723609
>midlife crisis causes you to do drugs
my IQ is actually super high so I won't be affected by this

>>76723590
>Go drunk to the gym and show us how well you lift.
Theoretically wouldn't be a problem, and I've gone half drunk half hungover and it wasn't. Conventional wisdom is retarded.

>>76723627
Let me guess, you won't post body and won't state why your DYEL ass lifts weights that he can handle even when drunk.

>>76723614
>makes up some irrelevant bs about midlife crisis when confronted with real scientific evidence
>claims to have a high iq
fucking kek

>>76723634
>starts drinking at midlife
>noooo, it's caused by high IQ and not midlife crisis, noooooo!
kek, the so called "high IQ" in that study are autists like you
>b-b-but
don't worry, I am autist, but I'm superior version of it that doesn't have the weaknesses perceivable by normiecattle.

>>76723312
>Alcohol in moderation is no alcohol at all, there's no safe amount.
based truther

>>76723640
hahaha dont worry anon, we definitely suspected you were autistic

>>76723645
But because I function in society unlike you, I won't be drinking alone in a bar when I'm 43.
Enjoy your life while you still can, loser.

>>76723629
That's not why I won't post body. I went from untrained to 225 1rm bench in 8.5 months drinking every day, over 40 years old.

>>76723652
No, that's exactly why you won't post body.
Remember to look at yourself in the mirror then go hit up a bar with the boys again to try and cope with it, fatty, you're literal cattle no better than a fatty who eats food to cope with stress of being reminded that he's a fatty loser who should hang himself before he becomes too heavy to stand up on the chair.

>>76723647
>the autistic guy is making comments about other people struggling to fit into society and form meaningful relationships
sure sounds a lot like projection to me bud

>>76723647
> alcoholics
> alone
try again

>>76723655
>t. manlet teetotaler
I'm not skinny but I'm not fat either and I could kick your nerdy ass.

>>76723287 (OP)
Depends largely how it affects your sleep. Everytime I go to sleep drunk or even with just a couple beers my SpO2 stat falls to like apnea levels. Which then affects my hormones. Zero differnce if I drink mid day and don't go to be drunk.

>>76723664
>>76723666
I know that you're a fat obese mutt who just opened a bottle of wine to cope with losing this argument.
>>76723674
>I could kick
Say no more, skeleton, your legs are still functioning from having to walk to the fridge every 5 mins, sure, but I'd punch you in the head and be arrested for murder next, because that's how weak and pathetic you are, like all alconiggers who defend this slop.

>>76723655
>>76723681
it sounds like you're really getting angry and crashing out from this conversation. I'm gonna stop replying after this one cos it feels bad making someone with a genuine emotional regulation disorder this upset. Just remember to take it easy bud, 4chans just a place for having a laugh and sharing ideas and different viewpoints, no need to get this angry.

>>76723681
>Say no more, skeleton, your legs are still functioning from having to walk to the fridge every 5 mins, sure, but I'd punch you in the head and be arrested for murder next, because that's how weak and pathetic you are, like all alconiggers who defend this slop.
I'm going to power clean and strict press 155 today. (Have done before.)

>>76723692
Now do it after drinking a bottle of vodka, pussy, you won't.
>>76723691
>pussy damage control
I accept your concession.

>>76723704
>Now do it after drinking a bottle of vodka, pussy, you won't.
If I had the equipment at home I would.

>>76723713
Maybe if you drank less alcohol you'd already have more than just that equipment at home.

>>76723720
>Maybe if you drank less alcohol you'd already have more than just that equipment at home.
>do everything at home
>don't have fun
>eventually die

>>76723740
I wasn't talking about having money you spent on alcohol, but I shouldn't have expected you to figure out what I meant, since you drank alcohol and pissed your brain out and now cannot fathom that higher IQ lets you make more money, especially by not working harder.

>>76723746
I don't work at all and I make money, beat that.

>>76723750
It's not uncommon for alcoholics like you to be on welfare, but can you explain why you still cannot afford anything?

>>76723287 (OP)

Ignore the sober faggots responding to this. The research says 0.5g of alcohol per kilogram of bodyweight per day does not impact muscle protein synthesis. For me, thats 3 beers, for manlets and women about 2 beers. 1g/kg (4-6 beers) is about 10-15% reduction in MPS, >2g/kg (8-12 beers) caps out at about 40% reduction.

Alcohol is overly stigmatized in fitness circles, probably because of retarded ex-alcoies that can't handle a single drop. Just don't be an idiot and slam a 750 and eat 3000kcals of fried slop like normalfags.

>>76723753
>t's not uncommon for alcoholics like you to be on welfare, but can you explain why you still cannot afford anything?
they don't give me enough money

Bumping

>>76723287 (OP)
If you are doing everything right to maximize your gains then you shouldn’t even drink at all.

>>76723750
rent seeker, net negative on society, a detriment to your countrymen, parasitic even.
(depending on your income, I am jealous and this is my cope)

I went to Giants Live and after the show Eddie Hall drank about 13 pints of beer and ate an entire pig. It didn’t seem to effect his “gains”

Strongman scene was always full of drinkers. Bodybuilding less so but strongfats and powerfats never had any issues with alcohol. Though some noodle armed straight edge kid may disagree, the WSM winners didn’t

>>76725538
>rent seeker
No, not going to write an autobiography though. Going to have 1/2 oz Everclear with 16oz Bud Ice and three shakes of Tabasco though.

>>76723436
They mistake an oblivion for a pleasure

>>76723287 (OP)
alcohol is processed in the liver, enzymes are produced to help process and repair. muscle, is also built through repair, using at least some of the same resources and processes.

>>76723287 (OP)
holy shit nigga why is his cock so small

>>76723287 (OP)
Save it up and only drink heavily every once and awhile. Don't dink a little bit constantly. Once a week can be too much depending on your training. Aim for one or twice a month.

>>76723755
And dumb ass evangelicals.

>>76723755
>Just don't be an idiot and slam a 750 and eat 3000kcals of fried slop like normalfags.

Drink alcohol fasted and with no carbs. Like skip dinner. Drink hard liquor with a diet soda mixer or water even. Don't eat any carbs when you're hung over. In fact, try not to eat anything at all except water.

Carbs+alcohol is the worst; but any food really.

>>76723755
>58g of alcohol won't impact muscle protein synthesis
That's around 180ml of spirits, or a liter and half of beer.
That would get me buzzed all right, it will impact recovery and muscle synthesis at least because it will fuck up my sleep.