Thread 76726624

I need some /fit/ advice on fixing ED. And yes it is a /fit/ topic. I've been struggling with it for years now, for as long as I've been having sex. I've stopped watching porn several months ago, and my next steps are to clean up my diet and start consistently doing cardio. My concern is that I've tried these to varying degrees in the past with very limited success, so if they don't work I'm out of options.

I've also tried citrulline malate, which worked for a week or two before I seemed to build up a tolerance to it, I tried reverse kegels, which didn't work, I tried raw sex, which works, but condoms are not negotiable because I'm not sterilising my gf by messing with her hormones. My current workaround, which I'm hoping is temporary, is just having sex in the morning. I've actually never heard anyone mention this before, just something I figured out. This is currently the only way I am able to somewhat perform.

The only thing that reliably worked was taking cialis. I bought a whole bunch from india a few years ago and it completely solved the problem, although when I tried to restock it got picked up by customs and sent to my doctor, where they only let me take three months supply at a time, and only through a $50 doctors appointment. Even then it was cheaper than getting it through the pharmacy, but not something I can feasibly do anymore.

Without cialis, no matter what I try, there's always at least a bit of bad erection quality. I currently have to get it in quick, and I can't change positions without running into trouble. I also can't go too fast, even though my gf prefers it fast. She also prefers sex at night, so I need to do something.

Google lists a bunch of health problems like heart issues which might be causing it, although it's obviously psychological since I have no problem with handjobs, blowjobs, or raw sex. But then again, the fact that morning sex is way better might suggest otherwise, I'm not sure.

>>76726624 (OP)
If you wake up with boners, it's a psychological thing

I briefly had an issue when I was younger, used Cialis a few times until I got over my nerves and thereafter I was fine without it

Good, you're tackling your health.
Have you measured your hormones? Test, free test, and E2 at a minimum might be of interest. Low or high E2 can both result in ED. Low E2 is often associated with prolonged time to ejaculation, like, marathon fuck sessions where you just can't come, and you end up with blue balls afterwards.
I had similar issues to yours with normal testosterone levels and super low E2. For me, DHEA supplementation (100 mg/day) fixed it.
Read about PT-141 and see if that might be something for you.

>>76726624 (OP)
>condoms
OOF

1/2

The fact you're still posting images like this means you're taking time to wade through arousing content. You need to understand, any artificial visual stimuli which is arousing is incredibly counter-productive.

I've been on this road for a long time, everything you describe I have experienced, in-fact, your symptoms are more or less exactly what I used to experience.

Recovery:
1. Removing dysfunction causing stimuli.
2. Random physical health shit.
3. Facilitating response to healthy stimuli.


1.
I've already said it, any visual stimuli which isn't a flesh and blood woman will negatively impact the speed of your recovery. When I first kicked this shit I remember going 6 months without porn, I then binged for a week and I was virtually back at square one. Yes.

2.
Sleep is your best friend, you know the drill, no blue-light etc. at night, do relaxing shit, take magnesium 100-400mg (glycinate). cool.

I don't need to go on about training, if you want to learn cardio and weightlifitng 101, go look into lyle mcdonalds website, you'll find everything you need.

Circadian health: Get light asap with the sunrise, there's a special IR and UVA band which our bodies need to be healthy. Go listen to Jack Kruse about this.

Nutrition, if you're a young man, it's not really going to move the needle unless you're seriously unhealthy and have a ton of deficiencies. IMO the only supplements worth spending money on for general health are high-quality omega 3, magnesium, creatine. Everything else is to patch some deficiency. Get your vitamin D from the sun. Sunbathe for 30min a day shirtless whenever possible. Your diet should be mostly unprocessed meat and fruit, honey is great

>>76726699
2/2

Seeing results from no porn life can take months if not 1-2 YEARS. Most important: Don't ever engage with it or jack off. If you can put off sex and just have it 1-2x/week that may actually be better because your dopamine will be higher for it vs doing it everyday.

3.
You're effectively needing to train your brain to more strongly respond to your gf. That will be achieved through heightened alertness and awareness. These are related but seperate, alertness is primarily dopamine driven, awareness is primarily acetylcholine driven.

Alertness is primarily driven by circadian health. If you really want to you could try. Awareness is primarily driven through intention.

Here's a stack/method I put together to help rewiring:

1-2 hours before sex:
- Beetroot or Citruline (6g of either), better yet, cialis or viagra if you can get more.
- Tyrosine (1g)
- Taurine (1g)
- ALCAR (1g)

RIGHT before sex go into the bathroom:
- Hit a vape or pop in some nicotine gum
- Cold splash your face for 30seconds
- Do 10 squats while trying to hold your breath
- Stand on 1 foot and stare at a spot arm length away from you for 60 seconds.

I know this sounds arbitrary and dumb, but feel free to throw it into chatGPT. These simple exercises will massively increase alertness and awareness.

NOW that your system is very primed. When you're having sex: PAYING ATTENTION TO EVERYTHING, BE VERY IN THE MOMENT, what do you see, what do you feel, connect with her. Where your awareness goes, energy flows. Where you send energy is where your brain will fortify pathways, much like walking down a path. The more you walk with more intention, the more ingrained that path will be.

It will take time, be patient.

>>76726706
And yeah, obviously go get your hormones checked as the other anon said and a nutrient status blood panel if you can afford it

>>76726624 (OP)
You might be gay.

>>76726624 (OP)
>that image
Isn't that good news? I'd assume the viewer doesn't qualify because he popped a rock hard boner after seeing the nurse's cleavage.

>>76726630
I definitely get morning boners, so I guess it is psychological. But by the sounds of it, focusing on my physical health will still help.

>>76726658
I've never measured my hormones. I'll read up on this, it sounds interesting

>>76726699
>>76726706
I agree I need to stay away from anything arousing, although it's pretty difficult considering I go to a uni gym. I did purposely try to get the image searching over as soon as possible though, just wanted something attention grabbing and I thought the meme was a funny premise.

And you're definitely right, I've been trying and failing to get my sleep sorted for so long now. Maybe this is the motivation I need to finally get a consistent sleep routine.

I'll try this alertness/awareness rewiring thing too, thanks for the information. I feel like pairing those supplements with a good sleep schedule will help me in so many more ways than just ED haha

>>76726624 (OP)
I had/have a very similar issue bro. For me it's mostly psychological, but I also drank very heavily for about a decade and believe it did some real metabolic damage. Been an ongoing battle for years that I've (mostly) got under control now. Things that helped me
>clean up your diet
Meat , veg, fruit, some rice and potato, really nothing else except the rare occasion.
>exercise daily
Focus on heavy compounds and cardio over isolation stuff. Can still do them if you want but squat and deadlift heavy as shit at least once a week. Run as often as your body will allow, walk a lot, just move even on your off days
>get outside
Sun, fresh air, just move around as often as possible
>stop smoking and drinking if you do either
Smoking specifically will absolutely kill your boners
>take the pressure off
Talk to your girl about it if she's cool. For me, this helped a lot. A lot of the pressure was on me trying to hide what was going on, which just snowballed into more stress. Talked to my wife about it and she was super supportive. Now if I'm having a hard time, we just take it easy and see what works. Oral always gets me going, both giving and receiving. Some foreplay, cute clothes sometimes. If she's not a cunt, she'll understand
>stop watching porn and jack off as little as possible
Porn is the devil. Jacking off is ok in moderation but I'm talking like once a month type shit, not every other day
>sleep is priority over anything else
Get a regular sleep schedule down and stick to it always, even on days off work and shit still wake nip at the same time. Take sleep seriously, no lights and screens, no bullshit.

>>76726624 (OP)
>and I can't change positions without running into trouble.
Sounds like it's a chore to you, you do this every day? You'll either get tired of fucking her or she'll leave you because she's a nympho that needs more cock.

>>76726909
>I agree I need to stay away from anything arousing, although it's pretty difficult considering I go to a uni gym.

"Anything arousing" isn't what I meant, I didn't write it very clearly, my bad. I meant anything visually arousing on a screen. Just think of porn as anything arousing on a screen. If you're at a uni gym getting aroused my uni chick's, that's completely fine if they're real flesh and blood women - as long as it's not causing you to seek porn.

For myself, my poor sleep habits came from a place of pain. It was too painful to just go to bed and sit still without constantly distracting myself with my phone and scrolling.

When trying to resolve any problem, understanding why you do x is almost always more life changing than prescribing something to "fix" x. When you understand it in your bones, you can no longer hide from it, you have no choice but to change, change becomes less effortfull and more natural

>>76726624 (OP)
>I currently have to get it in quick, and I can't change positions without running into trouble

similar here. I get erections, though not as hard as they used to be unless i take a Cialis and even then it's not always. But the moment i take my mind off it, or out of the moment, it fades and won't come back. It's like the valve that keeps blood in the dick doesn't work right anymore? I can jerk off, but my dick doesn't get extremely hard, enough to jerk it, but not enough for sex. If I don't get it in my wife right away, my boner fades, but she needs so much time to get ready, lube, etc.. and she talks during foreplay too, like about stuff going on in our life. She's been very supportive of me, but even when everything worked great she's not a very sexual person, i'd do all the work. and after having kids it got worse. we used to have sex maybe once or twice a month before? now we had sex three or four times this whole year. To be fair, we tried a few more times, but I wasn't hard enough. IDK, i am 50 so sometimes i think this is just it. i mean, did our grandparents have lots of sex?

>>76726624 (OP)
You didnt mention it, but are you taking stimulants for ADHD? These can cause stim dick.

>>76726624 (OP)
fridayplans don't even need to talk to anyone $40 for 18 20mg tads break 'em in half take a busted in half one everyday and you have 6 left over for those days you feel you need a little extra push or sell them to kids or something i dunno. if 5mg is enough then you only need to buy them every couple months and still have plenty left for those kids.

>>76726909
>I definitely get morning boners
do they stay up until you pee? just don't pee

im mostly in the same boat. i started getting night/morning boners within a few days of cutting back on porn and fapping, but i don't have a gf or can find easy enough casual sex to get my fix the normal way. maybe it's really time to drastically change my life...

Can't you guys stop being fags and just fap once every other day? I understand your christian upbringing messed you up for life on masturbation but creating an entire quack industry and health conditions to justify your behavior sounds stupid.

>>76728993
>doesn't understand supernormal stimuli
>doesn't anything about physiology so thinks anything which isn't pro jew porn industry must have to do with religion
>doesn't understand response downregulation
>doesn't understand absence heals downregulation
>doesn't realize I'm atheist and is super anti porn
>doesn't understand kids who grow up with more visual stimuli access in 60mins than all of their ancestors combined is a bad thing
>probably gay
>is retarded
>probably fat

>>76728718
>and she talks during foreplay too, like about stuff going on in our life.
lol... I'd lose my boner too

We comparing dicks again?

>>76726624 (OP)
Sounds like you have too much cortisol
Cut absolutely all sugar, alcohol and stims(caffeine etc)
Start taking rhodiola or panac ginseng daily
Do LISS cardio for 30-40 minutes until you get a cardio boner and then stop
DO NOT MASTURBATE

>>76729511
Cardio boner? ...?

what if you don't get morning wood ever and also struggle with erections?
asking for a friend

>>76729652
Either:

1. You've btfo'd your reward circuitry from too much porn. In which case, never look at porn again and keep masturbation as close to zero as you can (yourbrainonporn.com)

AND/OR

2. You're incredibly unhealthy and need to: get a complete blood check (normal panel + hormone profile + nutrient status profile), fix your sleep (listen to Jack Kruse) and fix your diet (Ray Peat)

>>76729103
>doesn't realize I'm atheist
Why don't you believe in God?

>>76730025
The same reason I don't believe in many things. I have no experiences of which lead me to believe. Ironically I generally prefer the company of the religious than dweeb atheists.

>>76728993
((()))

>>76728272
>understanding why you do x is almost always more life changing than prescribing something to "fix" x
thank you for the wisdom, this is very helpful

>>76728718
yeah mundane conversation during foreplay is rough. My gf doesn't really offer much in the way of getting into a sexy mood, I guess she just figures I'm always horny and ready to go so there's nothing to do, and is also afraid of coming across as goofy or something

>>76728758
>>76729511
no alcohol, ADHD medication, cigarettes, or anything like that, but I do drink a lot of coffee and my sleep is a bit messed up. I do tend to get a lot of brain fog. I wonder if it makes a huge difference that my gf seems to put off sex until the very last minute before bed, which is always later than it should be. We don't have much choice though, since we both live with other people and have to be super discreet. It's always got to be at midnight after everyone else is in bed, rather than nice late afternoon sex where we can relax and be loud

actually that reminds me of another problem. I've noticed that I have much more trouble when my gf insists we do it under the covers because she's cold. Obviously I'm doing all the work, and I'm not super fit, so I just get all hot and sweaty which absolutely kills my boner

>>76726624 (OP)
I like this image

>>76729652
Morning wood is literally just at what point in the sleep cycle you're waking up at

>>76728718
>she talks during foreplay too, like about stuff going on in our life
Why do women do this? Every single GF I ever had did this, and they didn't see anything wrong with it, either. Once both of us are completely naked, the only kind of talk that I want to hear is dirty talk, not stuff like what an asshole Jennifer was at work or how Melanie broke up with her BF last week.

>>76732305
Really? Do you have a sauce of that?

>>76726909
If you get morning boners, and can sustain an erection while masturbating, then it's 10000% a psychological issue.

By all means still work on your cardio, endurance, kegels, eat clean, hydrate, get your sleep, take citrulline, all that other stuff. It can only help, and even placebo is good.

The main thing though is to make sex an activity that is enjoyable and relaxing, with no element of anxiety or any expectation of how you'll "perform". Nothing kills a boner quicker than trying to sustain a boner, and nothing makes you lose an orgasm like focusing on reaching orgasm. When done right, the physical aspect of sex happens naturally and automatically, with you taking the role of a pleasantly surprised collaborator, not the stage hand running around behind the scenes.

My advice is to think a LOT less during sex and just lean into what feels good and turns you on. You have a sudden urge to lick her ear? Do it. You think it'd be kind of sexy if she stroked your arms? Ask her to do it. Taste her. Smell her. Be animalistic. Turn off the inhibitions and try to lose yourself in the moment.

>>76726624 (OP)
what's your insulin rsistance like?

>>76728718
Tell her to shut the fuck up during sex. Perhaps its the only time she feels she has your attention? Promise her that you can have a conversation AFTER sex (and obviously be true to your word)

>>76728718
Broseph, I'm 45 and in exactly the same situation, right down to the mundane conversations. Cialis helped me immensely but I'm also super sensitive to it, apparently - 2.5mg works but gives me the dang headaches. I get tired of anticipating sex, taking the pill, then nothing happens and I've got a headache for nothing. Morning sex is frustrating too - what am I supposed to do, pop a pill when I get up to pee at 4am?

Something I figured out eventually is that I'm generally not going as soft as I think I am, and if I don't act like a baby about it and just keep on keeping on the wood will come back. Lame, but true.

Just a tiny bit of dirty talk from her towards the end helps, too. It's stupid, and intellectually I know it's disingenuous when she begs me to cum after 10 minutes of her starfishing, but my dick doesn't seem to care. It can be as simple as a little girly grunting, if she feels awkward about it, and if she's supportive it's not too much to ask for.

Sometimes if I'm softening and we didn't already start with licking her off, I'll lean back and put a vibrator on her clit. Gives me a little break and visual stimulus.

Hell, you know what? Honestly any action or effort whatsoever from her towards the end helps. The passive participation is just so boring, no wonder my dick gives up.

>>76733970
No I don't have some definitive paper, just Google "morning wood sleep cycle" it's linked to the REM stage

>>76726706
I concur I dont have sex but I do this several times a day before jerking off.

>>76726624 (OP)
>my gf
you're gay bro

>>76734530
>what am I supposed to do, pop a pill when I get up to pee at 4am?
Cialis works for up to 36 hours, it’s not Viagra that needs timing and works only about 4 hours. Just pop it the night before and you’re ready for the whole next day.

>>76736097
Cialis has a 17.5 hour half life (I think), and I'm sensitive to the side effects. If I take enough of it that it's still strong enough in my system to work the next day, I'll have the mother of all headaches.

The flip side of that is that I'm able to use very small doses and get what I want. 1/3 of a 5mg pill typically gets me raging bull hard for a couple of hours. That starts getting me into headache territory, though.

I have, through long back and forth with chatgpt, figured out if I take a 1/4 today it won't be enough for a boner or side effects, but if I then take another 1/4 tomorrow I'll have enough cumulative in my system to be good to go and not have the headache.

Tylenol, hydration, and food when I take the pill help the sides, I know. It's a whole song and dance every time. Being able to drive nails with my dick is worth it, mostly.

>>76734799
sounds like you're full of shit
fuck off

>>76726624 (OP)
>condoms are not negotiable
people really fuck their gf with condoms? thats fucking gay

>>76726624 (OP)
Steroids

>>76736285
Make me limp dick kek

If cialis helps it sounds like something to do with your blood flow or nitric oxide (NO) production. I would look into both of those.

Apparently they do "acoustic wave therapy" sonogram type shit to clear up plaque in your dong's arteries, which can help restore blood flow. Non-invasive and quick. Might be worth checking out