Thread 76737376

Train Hard *AND* Train Often.

what's HIT?

>>76737376 (OP)
Didn't train till failure
Didn't eat enough protein
Fuck off

>>76737404
A "Get rich quick" scam peddled by mentzer and his cronies

>>76737376 (OP)
>does low intensity low volume
>calls it high intensity
I think the people who say hit doesn't work are envious of we who can push hard.

actual proof of him training to failure? most people have actually no idea what training consistently to failure is like, speaking from experience
I really started to understand it some months ago after years of training and some people I know are confused as to how I'm growing so fast

>>76737514
This is the average hitfag who watches mentzer tiktok all day training to "failure"

>>76737514
Who cares about training to failure, all that matters is that numbers go up

>>76737376 (OP)
>sHITers finally post body

>>76737376 (OP)
bait

>>76737632
>all that matters is that numbers go up
wrong

>>76737376 (OP)
Is he even trying pay me like 5k to discord for a few months hed look like a different human

>>76737563
lil gup had at least 4-5 reps left in him fr

>>76737376 (OP)
fell for the HIIT meme for 6-7 years. only gains were in VO2max

>>76737833
improved vo2max is literally the most valuable reward you can get from doing cardio

>>76737563
Oldheads on the right seem like absolute bros

>>76737376 (OP)
People like this invariably end up being weenies who can't push through any fucking pain. If you really want to progress your workout should be seriously fucking uncomfortable, if you want to make a lot of progress in a short amount of time, it should be damn near intolerable.

>>76737992
doing cardio with retarded "lifting" is fucking retarded

>>76737563
it is interesting how some ppl just dont have the dog in them

>>76737563
he failed though
>>76737731
how so? he was really struggling

>>76738506
you obviously mixed up hiit with hit

>>76737563
>training to joint failure from overuse

>>76737376 (OP)
OP, why do you post such pics.? Theres people on here and out there who think this shit is a real case and the photos legit.
Stop.

for anyone who might be dumb enough to fall for it, the real timeline is 3 months and the redditor admitted he wasn't lifting till failure

this what 12 reps with ''perfect form'' gets you

brb getting huge with 5 heavy ass reps

>>76737723
500

>>76740078
>no proof
okay, faggot

>>76737376 (OP)
Lmao.

HIT is a cope scam.

Ultra High Volume always MOGS HIT and Low/Moderate Volume.


LOL!

THE HIT FANS ARE SEETHING IN HERE.

ARNOLD, FRANCO, HANEY, CUTLER all mogged HIT COPE SCAM!

>>76740436

how much volume counts as high volume?

>>76740436
High volume wastes your precious time while providing 20% more muscle. It's not mogging anything, it's a waste.

>>76739988
ok dyel

>>76740436
Dorian Yates?
>>76741157
>providing 20% more muscle.
Doubt that. Once all the muscle fibers get the growth signal, what's the advantage, burning calories?

>>76741210
Dorian yates trained 4-5 times a week. The training in the blood&guts vids is just a normal, perfectly reasonable training style that happens to fall more on the intensity side of the spectrum over the volume side. DYs training has no relation to the 30 mins once every 2 weeks cultist retardation that internet mentzer faggots are shilling. Same is true for every other successful lifter like jordan peters or nick walker that people claim are mentzer type HIT lifters.
Mentzerfags are tiktok internet faggots, not serious lifters.

>>76737376 (OP)
Wtf i got better gains within first 8 months

>>76737563
Looks pathetic and LIT

>>76737563
Such a useless exercise

>>76741774
>Mentzerfags are tiktok internet faggots, not serious lifters.
I think I am Mentzerfag.
I lift 3 times a week, but workout is only 40 minutes each. On many exercises I do only one set, but to failure, low rep heavy weight. On some exercises I do 2-3 sets. Dynamic movements.

>>76740521
60 Sets 3X Per Week of full body of one exercise for ea

Super Ultra German Volume Training basically.


>>76741157
Copium.


>>76741210
Yates literally trained with High Volume Training from the 1980s to 1991.


>>76742829
You’re not a MentzerFag.

Mentzer and Yates were completely delusional compared to Jones and Platz.

You’re a JonesFag considering Jones supports full body training of 3X per week

>>76741157
Not only this is a Cope.


Cutler literally did High Volume Training quicker.


No training to failure at all.


Rest time was 45 seconds!

>>76742932
>You’re a JonesFag considering Jones supports full body training of 3X per week
But I am doing split training. Most muscles I train only once per week, some two times per week. Trained to failure. 1-3 sets.
So far I have gains on every workout.

>>76742936
High volume builds big but weak, bodybuilder muscles. Such muscles are full of water and glycogen, not fibers.

>>76743102
>More nonsense

High Volume builds strong muscles.

U a HIT Pencil Neck

>>76740078
Do you have the link to the original thread?

>>76741774
I've lifted 7 days a week for like two months (6+ for almost two years) and it's still high intensity. I just don't do a lot of sets.

>>76737563
>instinctively makes the leverages worse for himself on the grind rep
positively ngmi, you lean in to shorten the lever arm with elbows more back. if this doesn't occur instinctively you may as well give up lifting

>>76742932
>You’re a JonesFag considering Jones supports full body training of 3X per week

>Platz wasn’t concerned with the number of sets. If an exercise worked well for him, he might do 10 sets or more of it. He typically didn’t even count sets. He went instead, by time, doing 20-25 minutes of favorite exercises before moving on.

No, he is high volume and crazy. I do one set, he does 10.

Single set to failure, once per week. All you need.

>>76744546
you lose muscle after 3 days, retard

>>76743102
>muh sarcoplasmatic hypertrophy vs. myofibrillar hyperthrophy
Wasn't this debunked like twenty years ago?

>>76737376 (OP)
>train hard and train often
>on /fit/ this is considered controversial fitness advice
the absolute state of this board

Single set to failure, once per week. All you need.

>>76744614
This is what /fit/ believes.

>>76742932
>You’re a JonesFag considering Jones supports full body training of 3X per week

>Platz wasn’t concerned with the number of sets. If an exercise worked well for him, he might do 10 sets or more of it. He typically didn’t even count sets. He went instead, by time, doing 20-25 minutes of favorite exercises before moving on.

No, he is high volume and crazy. I do one set, he does 10.

>>76744614
https://www.strengthlog.com/strength-training-frequency/
>But when the training volume was the same across sessions (RTEV), training three times a week didn’t provide any noticeable benefits over once a week.
>On the flip side, when higher frequency meant more volume (RTUV), it resulted in greater muscle growth and greater gains in strength, showing that higher volume is a primary driver of both.

>>76745998
So spreading 12 sets for biceps in 2 sessions doesn't change anything compared to doing these 12 sets in one session?

>>76741780
It is okay but very targeted and specialized for bodybuilders who already have overall tricep development. I have never seen a guy do dips that did not have impressive and balanced upper body development and if you can get on a dip/pull assist machine and overcome the implied admission of failure of it, you can creep into manly range of non-assist.

>>76746012
It does, don't care what anyone else says. 2 is minimum frequency.

>>76746971
Why do you think so?

>>76746973
You aren't recovering after about 72 hours with reasonable conditions (nutrition, rest). Then you start atrophying while not gaining.

>>76746976
You're completely insane. If that were true bro splits wouldn't be a thing.

>>76737563
Nah, I was just like this fag at 16yo.
I saw almost no visible progress after a year of going all out, because I didn't adjust my diet and remained a skinny-fit twink.

>>76746012
Yes, doesn't change.
But 12 sets is crazy, retarded. Do one set.

One set to failure, to death. All you need.

>>76737376 (OP)
god i want to just pull down those boxers and suck his dick

>>76737376 (OP)
This is why lean bulking is stupid unless you know how to diet and have seen actual bulking gains.