Thread 76741446

I hate how random dude bros take some steroids, train like absolute dog shit, are weak as fuck, don't do any of the main lifts, and light baby weights, and yet still get a fully developed muscular body, all because they took some steroids

It's criminal how this is even a thing, it makes me question everything about life.

And dont be some ignorant annoying faggot and say something like

>erm maybe actually they're doing it right XD!!!!11

I fucking hate this reponse so much, because it is a 100% fact if anyone who is natural trains like that (random lifts, only use baby weights) that they will NEVER make any progress

These guys gains are 100% injected, they get the results IN SPITE of their dog shit training methods which will NEVER work for someone who is actually natural

>>76741446 (OP)
what weight and height are those dude bros at muscle?

>>76741446 (OP)
you are right, i see very buff youngsters swinging at the pull-up bar as if it's their first time. you dont actually need to lift to gain muscle when on gear, lifting just enchances the results. if you think about this isn't the only area in life where fraud wins.

>>76741446 (OP)
>be me
>natty
>lift weights
>eat healthy
>get lean
>start looking good
>didnt even need to take steroids
if youre gonna be a whiny little bitch just take the steroids. a roided out fizeek is genuinely unattractive to most women, so why do you even care that a roidhead is making more gains than you? of course they're going to, they're taking the drug that makes them make gains. its genuinely not hard to get in shape without steroids, so stop being a crybaby bitch about it.

>>76741446 (OP)
Caring about other dudes bodies sounds gay anon.

>>76741467
Dude, you missed the point entirely

Yes I look good, and Im sure you do too.

We have the
>Yeah that guy looks good, he's fit

But we dont have that
>"WOW, THAT GUY KNOWS WHAT HES DOING, HE STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, DAAAAMN!

>>76741498
bro, why do you fucking care? women are more attracted to lean guys, while men, including yourself, can tell that they're roiding, so what aspect of this is bothering you?its like watching someone using hacks in a game and being mad that they're winning. like no shit they're gonna beat the game easily, they're cheating. no ones impressed by it. no one else cares except for you.

>>76741508
Maybe because it's frustrating when I'm training hard, I Incline Dumbbell Press 50kg dumbbells for reps, and then some roider comes in the gym and does some seated cable fly machine for a few half assed sets and then does some tricep pushdowns with baby weight and is 2X my size and leaner....

If i trained like that I'd literally have made 0 gains,

Its insane what these guys can get away with having such disgustingly poor training methods and still make godly results

>>76741512
so fucking what? it's literally irrelevant to your life. and they're gonna die when they're 40. if you think the benefits outweigh the costs, then take roids yourself. otherwise quit bitching and recognise that whatever benefits theyre getting DON'T outweigh the costs.

>>76741512
>some roider comes in the gym and does some seated cable fly machine for a few half assed sets and then does some tricep pushdowns with baby weight and is 2X my size and leaner....

Most roiders train like this because they have 0 incentive to train hard because the gear does most of the work, it's like cheating in a video game, you basically just have to show up and let the cheats do the work.

But honestly I would get bored with the gym if how i trained did not really matter at all in the slightest. It makes sense now why steroid users get bored of the gym so quickly, it's like playing a video game with god mode on, unlimited ammo, everything unlocked, no clip, etc, the game would get boring a lot faster that way compared to playing it normally

>>76741446 (OP)
They're trading happiness from the rest of their life for about a year of feeling better. Either they go off and feel like shit and deflate, and wonder why they ever bothered, get freakish and eyerolled at by most people of both sexes, or maintain "decent" by injecting stuff for many years and feel insecure so they have to shit talk natties here.

Steroids should be illegal and punishable.
But I don't envy steroiders much, they are weak for what they look, they trade their health and longevity for muscles. If they stop steroids their testosterone will drop below normal.

Also steroids are not fun, it's more fun to slowly build numbers in the gym and have it fun for years. Steroids will make you too big too soon.

>>76741446 (OP)
Weird jealous faggots like you just make naturals look pathetic. Everyone knows roids make getting a good physique laughably easy. That’s the whole point. To be a based natural is to not give a fuck about that, and that includes not shitting your pants every time you see some zoomer roidtranny with big muscles.

>>76741446 (OP)
The amount of crying and coping on /fit/ is really annoying

>>76741576
>>76741599
glad to see everyone on this thread calling him out tho 2bh. i think /fit/ is probably 66% people who do actually lift and eat well and make slow but steady progress 33% people who bitch and moan and create bait threads and dont really lift.

>>76741576
Weirdest thing to me is that roiding won't make you attractive to women, women value tall and wide men over anything else, this means you already had good genetics and predisposition for naturally above average testosterone before you took roids, because roids don't make your bones grow.
Roiding for those people is like drinking coffee after perfect 8 hour sleep is to an office worker.

>>76741576
/thread

maybe stop caring about social media asthetics and start lifting for strength. I personally believe trying to do natty bodybuilding and staying bodybuilder lean is a waste of time, might as well roid if that is the goal. You can't cheat strength to nearly the same degree

Stop steroids.

>>76741446 (OP)
I trained a 50 year old woman and she looked confused how she was lifting more than the roidapes in that gym after only 2 months. From day 1 of training I instilled good intensity habits, how to train the muscles effectively, how to gage when to push and when to back off on volume, all the good stuff, and she matches or exceeds their strength. She makes fun of them now because of how shitty they train and how they pretend to work hard to stroke their ego. She's obviously not bigger than them but when someone finally gets to see how badly these MtM trannies train and how much of what makes them good comes out of a bottle it becomes laughable

>>76741518
Unless they (obviously) don't have the cognitive skill to figure out they're making a massive mistake. In which case they should be shit on all day and night until their heart or liver fails, whichever comes first

Will any of you natty CHADS post bodies/lifts? I’m sure you blow those roiders out of the water, you just have body dysmorphia

>>76741576
Nta but every time I see someone who obviously uses gear I view them exactly like I'd look at an alcoholic or a ho. It's worth pity more than anything in almost every case I've seen

>>76741512
>i DB press 50kg’s for reps
No you don’t
>a roider comes in 2x my size does some half assed pec flies and leaves
No he didnt

This is such a strange LARP because anybody who has taken steroids knows for a fact that it isn’t true. You don’t get an impressive body by taking steroids and half-assing workouts, steroids aren’t magic. It’s so bizarre to read posts like these.

>>76743634
Exactly, loads of guys take and you couldn’t tell. Theyre bloated and watery from high e2, they eat like shit and are 25% bf etc etc. OP only hyper fixates on the ones that are lean and actually locked in nuitritionally.

>>76743745
The guys he’s talking about have their shit dialed in more than he ever will. That’s why he’s mad.

Also, just because a person trains a certain way when you saw them doesn’t mean they train that way exclusively. There are so many different programs and ways to program a routine.

DYEL is just jelly and mad so he has to do that thing that every woman does to the prettiest woman in the room when they know the woman is better than them so they have to make up a scenario about her so that the pretty woman is actually beneath her
>ugh, look at that fucking bitch over there.. drinking her drink like a slut.

>>76741446 (OP)
Yes it is a fake and gay society where lying and cheating are required to stand out. Steroids are baby stuff. The truly powerful people cheat on levels you can't even imagine. Get used to effort not equaling results.

And I've got bad news if you're just jealous because of women or something. They don't do any better than you do. There's no easy solution.

>>76741446 (OP)
why is the muzzle edited in? what was there originally

>>76743634
>>76743745
>>76743755
>pretending steroids aren't doing nearly all of the work for you
they will never admit to it

>>76743959
Steroids won't grow your bones unless you take them since your birth.
If a chinlet and manlet like you took roids, you'd look like a freak.

>>76743634
>You don’t get an impressive body by taking steroids and half-assing workouts, steroids aren’t magic
There is a scientific study that shows people who take steroids and don't train, have more muscle growth than people without steroids that train.

>>76741446 (OP)
>I hate how random dude bros take some steroids, train like absolute dog shit, are weak as fuck, don't do any of the main lifts, and light baby weights, and yet still get a fully developed muscular body, all because they took some steroids
you literally made this all up in your head just now and typed it out. You never saw this happen and never will.

>>76741446 (OP)
And why are you throwing a tantrum about it, baby?

>>76741512
>some roider comes in the gym and does some seated cable fly machine for a few half assed sets and then does some tricep pushdowns with baby weight and is 2X my size and leaner....
more imaginary gibberish

>>76743619
>50 year old woman and she looked confused how she was lifting more than the roidapes in that gym after only 2 months.
your larps getting lower effort by the minute

>>76744204
The less weight part is unironically true.
Weight doesn't matter if you're using wrong muscles to compensate.

>>76743626
apparently they're all stronger than roiders though

>>76741446 (OP)
>and yet still get a fully developed muscular body
never happened lol

>>76744197
>There is a scientific study that shows people who take steroids and don't train, have more muscle growth than people without steroids that train.
for the 123467th time its water and glycogen you retard. You never even read the study and wouldnt understand if you did

>>76744213
>Weight doesn't matter if you're using wrong muscles to compensate.
more meaningless made up gibberish

>>76743959
>they will never admit to it
They don't even *know* it. None of them trained hard for 5 years first.

It's funny seeing DYELs seethe when testosterone is dangerous, if you exercise wrong, such high growth can easily ruin your life to the point where you will be in constant chronic pain from imbalanced muscles pulling wrong on your body.

>>76741446 (OP)
Maybe lift too much heavy for a year just see what it does nerd

>>76744220
>for the 123467th time its water and glycogen you retard. You never even read the study and wouldnt understand if you did
Doesn't matter. Steroids grow muscles without training, muscles are bigger, bodybuilders and normies only care about looks, not strength.

>>76744220
>for the 123467th time its water and glycogen you retard. You never even read the study and wouldnt understand if you did
Doesn't matter. Steroids grow muscles without training, muscles are bigger, bodybuilders and normies only care about looks, not strength.

>>76743959
>>76744238
If you take steroids and don’t work out/barely work out, nothing happens. I made more gains by not being on roids than half-assing it while not eating right/drinking and working too much and not lifting effectively.

It’s so funny that you’re blaming steroids for your own personal lack of capability to do something. Woman moment, lmao

>>76745114
***while taking roids and half-assing things

Steroids don’t make you big just by taking steroids, you have to have some idea about what you’re doing. Especially when it comes to diet

>>76745120
You also have to know what exercises to do, muscle imbalance will ruin your life when you have unnaturally fast growth.

>>76741446 (OP)
that's because retards here don't understand that hormones are literally more important than anything else
if you have good insulin and insulin sensitivity you won't get fat
if you have good testosterone levels you will be jacked without trying
etc etc

you should hormone-maxx, not focus on anything else

>>76745120
>Steroids don’t make you big just by taking steroids
Yes they do. With steroids you don't need to do anything, you could even be vegan and sleep 5 hours per day, faggot.

>>76746078
No, they don’t. Why do you think that they do?

You should post body. Why hasn’t anybody crying about roiders posted their body? The exalted natural lifters are SURELY well past DYEL territory.. right?

>>76746085
It takes 10+ years for a natty to really pop-off, nobody on this board has done any serious lifting for more than one gym session.

>>76746085
science literally says so, certain steroids increase muscle mass even if all you do is to jack off all day. but if you also combine it with exercises, you get bigger much faster. one cycle can increase muscles mass more than a nattie in several years, while remaining LEAN

>>76746109
The only way to be bigger is to have bigger skeleton, and roids don't increase your bone size unless you're 10 years old.

>>76741467
>a roided out fizeek is genuinely unattractive to most women
retard alert

>>76746109
My actual experience says that you are interpreting the science incorrectly. That simply is NOT true. The fact that you not only believe this to be true, but are actually foaming at the mouth because you’re so upset about something that isn’t true, is actually a little shocking.

You can blast grams of steroids while sitting on your ass and you might gain “fullness” or whatever due to glycogen retention, but you aren’t making actual gains.

It’s insane that your brain is the way that it is.

>>76746288
High test is positively correlated with high IQ so he might benefit from some TRT.

>>76744211
I'm being for real. She sees them swinging around a 20lb dumbbell staring the mirror pretending to work and curls the 25 with cleaner form. She's nooticing how pathetic these dudes are

>>76744211
Post body https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cX4VNXnD0Dc

>>76741446 (OP)
Theyre probably a lot more regimented than youd think which is sometimes a bad thing, the cheap gym is just where you go to hit cables a ton and i honestly prefer 5min rest or more to develop strength on the shit i cant hit well with freeweights like rear delts and tris.

>>76745087
>Steroids grow muscles without training
no they dont. If they did you never see a roider wasting his time in the gym

>>76748160
I've seen 12 yo kids playing around in the gym deadlifting that much

>>76743626
My physique is actually quite impressive id have thought its impossible a few years ago, i look like a completely different person. If i posted it here then every gay guy on this god forsaken website who saw it would save it to their hard drive and id just have to live with that.

Why aren't natties allowed to be frustrated by roiders? What kind of gaslighting shit is this>?

>>76748246
Because your testosterone is already lower than a roider's, you don't have to actively signal that it is even lower than we thought.
Doing so makes both men and women stop seeing you as a man altogether. You're like a child that can never grow up. Shut the fuck up, pathetic loser, you'd be killed in tribal societies for being a weak whiny worthless bitch that needs to be fed for 0 benefit.

>>76741446 (OP)
I think a lot of people really in to lifting are in fact roiding most people just dont get to autistically obsessed and arent already on juice. You can make insane progress in 1yr just to find actual good advice is nearly impossible since you need lifting iq and matured endocrine system and androgen receptors for fast progress like bigger by the week fast.

For example, i did rowing in highschool and my lats are insane with bareky any effort. I have been bench maining for over 3 fucking years now i can flex and it looks sick and still feels like im barely at half genetic max.

>>76748273
Everyone "making fast gains" is without a doubt roiding or egolifting.
I know this very well, my shoulder has a scar proving it.

>>76748246
We just know what's best for you anon.

>>76748221
>no they dont. If they did you never see a roider wasting his time in the gym
Wrong. Roiders train so they can lie to themselves that it's not roids building their muscles but it's their training.

>>76748446
Even then they will only bench 1 plate for 10 and do some lat Pulldowns and call it a day and claim they train hard and have the secrets and that steroids are just the icing on the cake brah!


I think it’s the fact roiders literally don’t understand how natural gains occur so they have no clue we know the way they train did not result in their gains, that it’s literally all drugs doing the work

>>76748446
>>76748461
To give an analogy it’s like people who buy ranking boosts in online competitive video games and you try queue up into the ratings you got boosted too, and every legit player can immediately tell you’re not a real high rated player and that it’s obvious you got boosted

But the boosted player can brag to random people who don’t understand how the game works, but they can understand what being a highly ranked player is

>>76748470
And how does that affect you personally?

>>76748473
it doesnt because he made the whole thing up in his head

>>76741446 (OP)
>THEYRE CHEATING IT ISNT FAIR
You know tou can take the same drugs? But you cant because youre an ignorant pussified natty retard. You lack the faustian spirit of the gear abusing zoomer. You'd fuckinf cry in front of an insulin needle.

Fucking natty 4chancels appealing to some higher morality of 'cheating" you fucking jerk off daily lmfao

>>76741467
> be me
> natty
> 6'4" 220 lbs up from 173 lbs 4 years ago
> Hit 1/2/3/4 for 10 reps
> Workout 3x weekly for 35-45 minutes
> Look and feel great, 99% of strength for my age (32)
> penis works great, no bacne, not killing my IQ or increasing chances of cancer by using a stack

I don't use: sleeves, Suites, warm up, pre-workout, protein powder, supplements of any kind. My wife makes me 2 large meals and that's all I eat. I do use lifting shoes and straps when I DL >=5pl8 as I have small wrists but that's my cross to bear.

I don't know why people roid. I'm happy with this. Maybe when I hit the wall I'll feel worse but I'm already stronger than I ever thought I could be.

>>76750290
> natty
> 6'4" 220 lbs up from 173 lbs 4 years ago
> Hit 1/2/3/4 for 10 reps
congats on putting on 40lbs of fat

>>76750409
All muscle my man, .5 lbs every 2 weeks. I'm not stopping to 240 lbs. Hit 225 lbs on OHP this week.

>>76750461
>All muscle my man, .5 lbs every 2 weeks.
lol sure ok

The gaslighting by roid tranny’s is unreal

>>76741446 (OP)
Maybe try more during the sets and not on the drawing board

>>76750521
>Beleiving in the myth that you can only gain X ammount of muscle in X ammount of time

NGMI, never ever

>>76750615
I sure you must gain lbs a week of muscle then. natty
Post body

>>76748279
I want gains that i can keep though. Roids are gay and if you saw my physique pics youd think i look cooler than the floaties and knee pads roider look.

>>76751026
Roids look incomplete and gay, like you make up rules at yugioh as a teenager vs an elementary schooler. Show me one roider who can punch as hard as me when i hit 225 1rm bench.

>>76751043
>when i hit 225 1rm
in other words never. But by all means keep bragging about what your physical prowess will be like in the distant future, if ever.
That's not insecure at all.

>>76741446 (OP)
You should question everything you know in that case. The fundamental truth of this world has always been unfairness, and it will forever continue to be so.

>>76751604
No, because I will stop it.

>>76752786
I just injected steroids. And I tell everybody I’m natty when they ask how I’m so jacked..
>haha yeah, I do some pushups every day and hit the gym a couple times a week.. I guess I’m just blessed with good genetics

>>76741446 (OP)
Why does it matter? They're going to die decades before you do

>>76752810
lmao I do this too.
I just tell them I so some push ups and pull ups every morning.
I love seeing their dyel souls leave their atrophied bodies.

>>76741446 (OP)
so what? why does it bother you?

>>76741446 (OP)
One thing I've noticed is on places like reddit people will always gatekeep roids to younger men and tell them to not do it until they're in their 30s, but yeah it's just cope because they don't want to get surpassed and mogged by someone a decade younger than them that put in a lot less work.

>>76753905
Nobody even tells them to take growth hormone also if theyre set on it.

Thats why its such an easy tell if someone is on roids, unnatural looking insertions and frame. Time is an important factor and im pretty sure the growth hormone and boiled down semen of a horse or cow is gonna make you look a lil different especially since your body isnt producing it in regular intervals, plus your tendons are permatoast unless youre basically a chemist and a doctor and im no genius myself but id have to guess that if youre using steroids you at least probably arent albert einstein.

>>76752810
You should just ask them if they do any schedule 2 or above drugs and go write something down on a notebook then change the topic.

>>76751070
I could probably military press 205 strict enough i just got 175x3 not even much of a grinder.

>>76753935
>Thats why its such an easy tell if someone is on roids, unnatural looking insertions and frame
all steroids do make your muscles grow faster. I doenst change you insertions or frame.
You're still just making up retarded gibberish

>>76753905
>reddit is full of faggots
what a surprise

>>76753935
>roids change your insertions
>roids change your frame
>roids permafry your tendons unless you’re a chemist (?). Or a doctor (?).
Nigger I will Venmo you $20 to post your body with a timestamp

>>76742049
Except tons of roids does change your bone structure especially your face.
It's even prescribed as treatment for some ilnesses.

>>76754321
>tons of roids does change your bone structure especially your face.
still spouting made up bullshit

>>76754195
Im arguing without growth hormone you basically stagnate earlier into lifting. Go look at thor or the mountain one of them did a gh+delts bulk and looks different.

I could probably bat 95% even on the most difficult ones if theyre telling the truth, go around asking everyone if they have any narcotics why would they tell you the truth?

>>76754342
Ok name one person who is legit strong as fuck who looks even close to the same as when they grew to max height. I was gonna say nfl but basically everyone who did college football is on roids im pretty sure, i dont care enough to check and your argument cant be theyd look like mr olympia because then theyd get banned as everyone actually thinks youre gonna be able to compete with roiders through hs/college or that scouts would purposely only take natties they dont give a shit.

>>76754355
I think that’s kind of a fair point. You can get away with doing absolutely braindead routines for a while and make gains but the juice only gets you so far. That’s why literally everybody recommends that people learn how to make gains naturally before using drugs.

The sentiment that people who take steroids, as a rule, don’t put any effort into lifting weights is ridiculous. Lifting weights on steroids is the fucking shit and you can go probably 20-50% harder on PEDs than naturally, it’s like taking speed and watching porn.

I’ve never used growth because that seems to be where all the truly strange side effects come from. Same with orals, but more dangerous and physically harmful than strange I guess.

>>76754389
This is disingenuous.
>different photo resolution
>different lighting
>different camera lense
>30+ years difference
Wow what a great example. I’m not even saying you’re wrong, it’s just a shitty piece of evidence

>>76754389
you think trt causes bone growth? really?
And any one takes enough hgh to get acromegally is going to turn into a monster from the muscle growth

tdlr you are a retard

>>76754360
what the fuck are you even saying?

>>76754463
I know a cousin that turned into an ogre from medical roids let.

>>76754614
of course you do
People always turn into "ogres" under a the care of a doctor administering "medical roids" for some unstated condition

>>76754468
What is this an interrogation? Who do you think you are a bond villian? Off to the dungalow with you twitter buttcheek asshole.

>>76754371
Here we go again with the "ermm actually, steroid users train harder!"

A handful of them do, but 99.99% of roiders just go into the gym, do a few fuck-around sets of some bitch baby weight, and then fuck off, they dont do any serious lifting, its all a fucking LARP for most steroid users. The roids give them all the results.

I am talking about your average random dude-bro roider, not some fucking competitive hyper athlete, you disingenuous moron

>>76754389
It's not bone structure retard, steroids make your facial muscles to grow.

>>76741446 (OP)
If you knew how many dudes were on steroids and still looked dyel, you wouldn’t feel that way.
One of my greatest joys in life is mogging the fuck out of roidmonkeys.

>>76741498
>But we dont have that
>>"WOW, THAT GUY KNOWS WHAT HES DOING, HE STICKS OUT LIKE A SORE THUMB, DAAAAMN!
Ok, but why do you need to be that? I'm serious. Ask yourself, what makes that so important to you, and why?
It seems to me if you care about that so much then you already have the same mentality as roiders. The only difference is, unlike them you didn't actually take the plunge. So you seethe at them for doing pretty much the one thing that will make that reaction a reality for you. Fine, just roid then.
Not the anon you were talking to but I have the same body type as him (and you) and it's fine enough for me. Women love how I look, I'm strong and athletic as fuck, healthy as a horse, look great in and out of clothes without being a freak, and I did it without sacrificing my health and enjoying a fun hobby. That's good enough for us, why do you need more? What makes you special?

>>76755121
That’s just completely untrue. Most people who start taking roids do so after training seriously for years. Your argument is demonstrably false, and it’s a completely imaginary scenario you’ve made up in your head to justify why you are DYEL and other people actually look like they lift. If you don’t train seriously when taking roids, you will have shit results.

It’s very typical woman behavior.

>>76755660
>Ok, but why do you need to be that? I'm serious. Ask yourself, what makes that so important to you, and why?

Because i have been lifting weights for 20 years and people constantly ask shit like

>HURR WHY DONT U LOOK LIKE A HUGE BODYBUILDER!!!!

>>76755661
>Most people who start taking roids do so after training seriously for years.

HAHHAHAHAHHAHA completely bullshit

The vast majority of roiders start within the first 6-12 months once the noob gains effect wears off.

>>76755666
>lifts for 20 years
>is STILL dyel to the point that people he knows are confused about why he doesn’t look like he lifts
>instead of adjusting routine and diet, complain about steroid users
Post body and I will post mine. I take low doses of steroids, let’s see why you’re seething so hard

>>76755674
Where are you getting this information from to make such a claim? I’d agree that way more teenagers are abusing PED’s than ever but for normal people that’s not the case

>>76755680
>>76755680
>I take low doses of steroids, let’s see why you’re seething so hard

kek, i knew this thread was full of roiders making shit up

>>76743959
They do a lot of the work but not all of it. If you train and eat like a complete moron and/or your genetics are just that bad, you can roid and still look like shit.
I used to think like you too, until I met a guy at the gym who was a fat sloppy mess who casually mentioned he was roiding and would ask me what I take (which is nothing lol). Dude looked like he didn't even lift and just sat around drinking beer all day.
A lot of people in your gym are roiding who you would never suspect (and vice versa). Obviously the guys who win competitions are at the crosspoint of where training/diet/genes/drugs are all maxed out an dialed in, but that's not the average roid user.

>>76741485
I'm with you. Who cares? Just do what you're doing. Their heart will explode and yours won't.

>>76755686
Everyone's hearts will explode one day

>>76748265
>Because your testosterone is already lower than a roider's, you don't have to actively signal that it is even lower than we thought.
kek

>>76755683
What are we making up? The only people making things up are the mindbroken natty losers who lift for 20 years just to look DYEL.

Notice how not a single natty crybaby has posted body, nor will they. I’ll be busy doing my 10x10 rows for my back day :)

>>76755666
>and people constantly ask shit like
>>HURR WHY DONT U LOOK LIKE A HUGE BODYBUILDER!!!!
Nic trips Satan, but you still didn't really answer the question. Ok then, so WHY do you care? I want the why, not the what.
Mind you if you don't look at least somewhat big 20 years in the game you're doing something wrong, roids or no roids.

>>76755661
>If you don’t train seriously when taking roids, you will have shit results.
I will add the disclaimer, albeit they'll still look better than a weak natty who also doesn't train seriously or know what they're doing. Which is where the seethe comes from.

>>76755696
>roider spams an easy mode machine and brags about his gains

KEK EVERY SINGLE TIME

>>76755749
You just outed yourself as a total DYEL. The plate loaded horizontal row is *the* best back exercise, period. Weighted pull-ups give it a close run for its money, but if you had to choose one back exercise, this would be it.

How much do you row on that machine? What do you do for back that is “hard mode”? Post body :)

>>76755749
How is it an "easy mode" machine? Let me guess, rows should only be done with a le noble based barbell for ascetic reasons, for shitty 1-5 rep sets right?
Load 3 or 4 plates a side for good 10 rep sets, with strict form, full stretch/protraction of the shoulder, pausing and holding the last few reps, etc and tell us how "easy" it is.
inb4
>it's only the roids that make you able to do high reps and strict form though
I'm natty anon, let's just get that out of the way.

>>76755762
>>76755803
>LET ME TELL U HOW HARD I TRAIN
>*sits down*

>>76755809
>lats magically work harder when standing
You fail anatomy forever, retard.

>>76755762
nigger any lift thats done when sitting is literally in the tier of "easy"

>>76755809
Wait until you find out how people train their pecs.. lmao.. they actually LIE DOWN. In the middle of a gym, they’re lying down!! Hahahaha TRANNY TRANNY laying down like a TRANNY whose asshole is yearning for BBC!!

>>76755817
It's time to post body big boy.

>>76755817
Lifting weights, in general, is easy. It’s not a feat of athleticism to move a barbell from point A to point B in a controlled fashion.
>b-but barbell rows

Barbell rows are insanely inefficient, with the lower back inevitably being the choke point for putting up larger numbers as the upper back gets stronger.

Move the goalposts some more since you keep getting BTFO

>>76755823
>Barbell rows are insanely inefficient, with the lower back inevitably being the choke point for putting up larger numbers as the upper back gets stronger.
Not a problem if you do dumbbell rows.
DUMBELLS are superior to BARBELL

ITT: Roiders seethe after being told the reality of their situation

>>76755828
Okay? And chest supported plate machine rows are superior to DB rows where your form inevitably breaks down and you cheat. Plus DB’s over 100lbs are incredibly cumbersome..

You.. you ARE rowing with DB’s that are at least 100lbs, right?
>>76755832
>repeating something untrue over and over again makes it true
>refutation of falsehoods = seethe
>creating this thread in the first place = not seething
Your samefagging could not be more obvious

AHHAHAHAHHAHA THE ROIDER IS PROVING THE OPS POINT LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


>IM TRAIN SO HARD

>SITS DOWN TO LIFT WEIGHTS

KEKEKEKEKEKKE AHHAHAHAH

>>76755873
Have you ever stopped to think for a second that maybe the roiders are much more knowledgeable about weightlifting than you are, and the way that you lift weights is incredibly inefficient and ineffective?

I think that’s most likely what’s going on. It has nothing to do with steroids.

>>76755881
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO