Thread 76752466

benching barely grows your pecs

Nobody cares what sandniggers have to say. Fuck off and stop trying to type like a quirky white girl.

>>76752466 (OP)
> Bench is the only thing I do for my chest
> 3 Sets 1x per week, then 2x the following, then 1x, etc.
> Bench 315 and have a huge chest

I guess I've been doing it wrong?

Zoomers have the highest steroid use of any demographic. They're 18-25 and the 7th leading cause of total mortality is steroid use in America since 2024. The ones on roids will vet big chests no matter what. The idea that you should model your workouts over people that can't stop dropping dead in Saunas at 22 is absurd.

>>76752466 (OP)
What region does this canaanite call home and how many olympic weightlifting medals can his homeland call their own?

>>76752512
>>76752492

>the 7th leading cause of total mortality is steroid use in America since 2024.

Maybe the single most retarded thing I've read on this website.

Any deaths indirectly caused by steroids (a minuscule number) would be caught under the statistics for heart disease, the #1 cause of death in the US and every other developed nation on Earth.

>>76752466 (OP)
Crossovers are literally cable bench. You're a gay retard.

>>76752535
If someone in their 20s has a heart attack that isn't attributable to genetic defect then it's obviously steroid use. The fact that heart disease was the 2,811th cause of death among 18-25 year olds and is now the 7th should be telling. As is the fact that amongst Gen Z gym goers experience much more elevated rates (2,286x more likely to experience) than non gymgoers, which has never been observed and isn't true is any other country on earth for 18-25 year olds, is telling.

It's steroid use. I've had 2 zoomers die in my gyms sauna this year. That has never happened before. Both had shrines made with pictures at my gym. Both are instragram influences obviously juicing.

>>76752492
>>76752516
>they think it's a real nassim taleb tweet

>>76752551
Did you forget the safe and effective vaccine?

>>76752551
>every gym sauna is now haunted by dead zoomer roidtrannies
Man fuck this shit

>>76752687
Did people who don't go to the gym not get the vaccine? Because this elevated rate is ONLY among Gen Z gymgoers.

So either it's steroids, or the vaccine only kills you if you get it and workout.

>>76752466 (OP)
If you're training for size, you're not training for strength. And if you're training for strength, you don't care if your pecs grow or not, only that you add weight to the bar. And training for size is, let's admit it, a little gay anon.

>>76752466 (OP)
Flat bench is high risk low reward. Just do push-ups until failure.

>>76752466 (OP)
I don't get the anti benchers. It's such a fun movement

My only explanation is that they can't do it so they must try to belittle the people that do

>>76753169
You sound really big and strong I bet

Widen the grip, stupid DYEL.

>>76752551
>If someone in their 20s has a heart attack that isn't attributable to genetic defect then it's obviously steroid use.
Lol what sort of tranny logic is this? There's a million things more likely to cause a young person to have a heart attack, cocaine or some other stimulant abuse being high up the list

>>76752466 (OP)
>"bench doesn't grow pecs"
>look inside
>very low weight
every single time

>>76752466 (OP)
Do 50% of your max to fail three times and tell me what muscles are failing

>>76753596
This is a classic example of hypertrophy vs strength. Like Mike vs Sam. Sam is strong as fuck, while Mike is weak as fuck but both look jacked. One more Sam.

>>76752466 (OP)
Post tits

>>76753894
>Mike
Are you talking about “””Dr””” Israel

>>76754307
he's terminally online and expects everyone to know his eceleb buddies by first name. A loser

>>76752466 (OP)
>benching barely grows your pecs
benching gives u negative pecs, it doesn't matter how much armpit part of pecs that is somehat free to contract will grow, why? cause sternal part of pecs will get injured and atrophied, why? cause it snags on ribcage in bench cause your shoulders are necessarily retracted otherwise shoulders kaput
such pec will be stiff, shortened cause it's injured and malformed, stiff shortened pec pulls shoulders foreward and thoracic spine intro permanent flexion - bingo bango negative pecs

>>76752466 (OP)
Why is he typing like bronze age FAGGOT? Shitter really makes people give up all dignity.

>>76752466 (OP)
A lot of dudes bench wrong so it's just a simple lack of information
I mainly only did bench to grow my chest up to my peak stats
I would bench heavy and then bench light

>>76755564
We see you, bot poster. You are small and dyel, your posts are schizo nonsense and you should refrain from posting more.

>>76752551
man I remember 15 years ago people would be like
>energy drinks are dangerous
>there's too much caffeine
>this you guys crushed a red bull and had a heart attack on the treadmill
no. we just used to be completely naive about steroid use and prevalence in society.

>>76752466 (OP)
i do both

>>76755564
Intuitively that makes sense to me and sort of shows in my physique too, but do you have a source? What do you suggest for the sternal part? Getting the cables for crossovers is like asking German government for a building permit

>>76752466 (OP)
>overhead pressing in the squat rack
I do this. Am I an asshole? Is this equivalent to curling in the squat rack? I've never heard of anyone complaining about this before.

>>76752466 (OP)
>benching barely grows your pecs
Correct. The people who grow big chests from mostly benching are people who have good chest genetics to begin with.

>>76752466 (OP)
good, having huge pecs is hideous and faggot-coded

original post
https://x.com/nntaleb/status/1298795058209095681

>>76756304
https://x.com/viggo9000/status/1980393294896242855/

>>76752544
>crossovers are literally bench but without the bench or the elbow flexion or the pressing motion or the internal rotation and impingement-related injuries
ok boomer

>>76752544
if you do them like a retard, sure. they're supposed to be done like raises at a 45 angle with emphasis on adduction of the arm and the accompanying chest "squeeze" when your hands are literally crossing over.
Jeff save us, hopefully you're not treating facepulls like head-rows too

>>76752551
Where are you getting these statistics from?

>>76752466 (OP)
>>76756267
Where are you supposed to ohp?

>>76756550
Nowhere, there is no point in doing OHP.

>>76752466 (OP)
The people who say benching is bad are roidmonkeys and niggers who are on so much test that they'd get Arnold tier pecs from just doing jumping jacks. Their only goal is to rage bait you as a means to engagement farm.

Benching is a full body exercise that will turn you into an athlete. I am filled with sadness when I see flabby young gymrats who will stay small because all they do is isolation exercises that might hit your pecs 10% harder than bench but will leave the rest of your body and overall strength and athleticism severely lacking.

>>76752466 (OP)
What about Incline dumbbell press?

>>76756662
Nothing screams athlete like torn rotator cuffs and (proportionally) underdeveloped deltoids and simian arms

>>76752535
>>76752551
Been trying to find where this dude got any of this bullshit from and it's impossible. Completely made up FUD

>>76752535
Does the alledged zoomer roid epidemic even excist, or is it just dyel cope

>>76756662
No its not. Not even if you can fold your back like a wurm. Doing push ups is a much more wholesome chest exercise

>>76756267
You are an asshole until you're repping 1pl8 strict from the clavicles. At that point you're strict pressing the same weight dyels and women squat (badly), it's the ultimate mog. Same with curls in the rack.

I bench 3.2pl for reps, have a big chest AND mog 99.9% of this board
Kek

>>76752466 (OP)
that's not what that image means
it says for aesthetics and shape you don't need big direct compound work, you get enough elsewhere

>>76752647
Imbeciles

>>76752466 (OP)
>>76752512
Arch deloads the pecs while working in as much of everything else as possible while getting as much leverage as you can. Cool for moving a lot of weight. Shit for training the pecs.

Stop arching. Start using a flat back. Keep your ribs down and contract your abs to stabilize. Allow protraction of the shoulder instead of just locking it in place. You'll have to drop weight at first. But you'll end up loading the pecs better while minimizing all the back, connective tissue, legs, etc from the lift.

>>76760316
aesthetics is everything retard

>>76760374
what part of my post prompted this response, dumbass
I said the cultural origin of that post is people saying to eschew bench for other pressing motions like ohp, for aesthetic sensibilities. I didn't talk down on aesthetics, I tacitly endorsed them by accepting the framing

>>76752512
Similar for me. I’ve done pec accessories in the past but benching is what did it for me. Nobody who benches 3 plates has a small chest

>>76760374
Cool. You can look pretty while we fuck your gf after slapping her ass in front of you

>>76760484
>fuck your gf after slapping her ass in front of you
toothless power fantasies used to distract yourself from the fact that you jiggle when you walk

>>76752512
Itd actually very hard to die from steroid use if you keep your exams in check

>>76760803
Cope. Just admit you aren’t manly enough to lift heavy.

The benchcuck will watch me fuck his girlfriend from his cuckbench!

>>76752551
this is a copypasta from another anti-roid thread

>>76760953
I'm not the guy you responded to, you just seem confused
if you want to lift for yourself, lift for you. if you want to lift for other people, lift for other people. conflate the two at your own risk

>>76752466 (OP)
Cable flys. yes.

>>76752551
Saunas aren’t magical things a hot shower raises core temp similarly

>>76752707
I sure know what I'm gonna do this Halloween.

>>76752466 (OP)
Thats why I do barbell butterflies.

I added seated cable pullovers(on an incline bench moved to the cable station) on the back day and for some reason it started giving me the biggest chest pump ever.