Thread 76767046

Is there any reason to actually exercise anymore?

study says you dont need to actually lift just be a basedience believer and sit around doing nothing

no substitute for hard work
now rolling for pushups, last 2 digits. lets get this.

>>76767046 (OP)
the next generation is cooked if they follow advice like this

>>76767112
This meme has been around for a decade now i remember almost 10 years ago hearing about some guy growing muscle just by thinking about exercise and some retard midwits swore by it

>>76767046 (OP)
@everyone imagine this one, fags

>>76767112
>>76767135
Visualization helps at the top level for all sports.

>>76767143
Bro you should tell every NFL team they should just visualize all day at practice, they'll be so happy you let them in on this secret that Big Fitness doesn't want you to know about.

>>76767046 (OP)
>grow grow grow

>>76767262
lmao

>>76767046 (OP)
doing actual exercise improves strength by 3x as much, and doesn't plateau

>>76767046 (OP)
I remember one of the top government health officials from the US said that diet and exercise don't work at all. It was all over the news when they were pushing body positivity. Can't find it now. Guess it's been memory-holed.

>>76767160
Some of the greatest athletes of all time credit extreme dedication to visualization as a large part of their success

>>76767314
This along with belief, almost to the point of absurdity in its disregard for reality, that they are the best in the world. Its a mindset and you can use it in all aspects of life. In the gym its just knowing you got that one more rep in ya, you probably do.

>>76767046 (OP)
You do this mentally WHILE you're lifting. This is how you get insane gains along with ensuring you get enough protein and sleep.

The effects your mind can have on your body are insane. I’m going to try placebomaxxing

>>76767046 (OP)
eurofags are cringe

>>76767046 (OP)
>post yfw Baki logic is real

>>76767046 (OP)
>*grow grow grow*

>>76767262
>>76767274
S tier reference

SEX

>>76767046 (OP)
Arnold talked about this. Mind-muscle connection.

https://youtube.com/shorts/tQvvd83WK54

>>76767046 (OP)
the planet is a hologram and everything is mind. your heart creates emotions and locks reality into your nervous system. regulate your thoughts, follow your inner compass and be a healthy, good person. thanks!

>>76767046 (OP)
careful with this one lads. I did it during covid and I haven't left the house since. I got so big I can't fit out the door.

>>76767046 (OP)
Mind over matter

>>76767046 (OP)
>if you psych yourself up beforehand you perform better
wow, revolutionary

It's just CNS activation. You do the same thing with actually lifting, but that gives you the added benefit of muscle growth. That's what noob strength gains are - they train the nervous system to actually use the muscles they have. The study mentions an increase in strength, not muscle mass. You can get stronger through visualisation, but not swole.

>where do you work out?
>the library

>>76767046 (OP)
>>76767433
>>76767262
What people don't realize, or misinterpret quite often is the "placebo effect".
The idea behind placebo effect isn't that you "imagined the effect and made yourself believe the outcome" but that your belief actually had physical effect on the body.
Your mind literally can, with enough belief, do a lot of physical alteration. Your mind can create chemicals and your whole body to its believed sense.
Same goes with nocebo (the negative effects of your beliefs). If you are fearful of getting cancer you are at bigger odds of getting cancer. Your beliefs literally shape your body.

My hypothesis is that the mentally imagining muscle contractions increases neural drive, bdnf and wiring of the muscles, especially in the motor cortex of the brain (the one designed for actually moving the muscles).
Imagining is same as real world for the brain, so it will fire the same neurons, just a tad bit weaker.

>>76768481
Mike Mentzer mentions in his book how he imagines his muscles growing larger while laying in bed when he's about to sleep. He pictures his muscles inflating like balloons so much so that they fill the entire room.

>>76768503
Mike Mentzer was really before his time, damn

>>76767262
For leg day
>Knee grow knee grow knee grow knee grow

>>76767262
>>76768528
would you rather watch a tree grow or a knee grow?

>>76767072
roling

>>76767314
Post three and their quotes supporting your statement.

I just picture the sound from the 6 gorillion dollar man.

>>76767046 (OP)
Assuming this was an actual study, and not made up bullshit, all it really says is that untrained people have difficulty fully activating muscles, but thinking about it helps. Which is something we've known forever. You know, all that shit about mind-muscle connection, CNS adaptations, etc.

Even if that isn't bullshit, it would be worthless for half the population who has no inner monologue.

>>76767135
Maxalding has been around for over a century and was instrumental to the development of pic related physique

>>76767072
Keep doing that while I'm making working out at the library real, brainlet. I just imagined a set to failure, you?

>>76768481
I think this also makes it a good reason to get into religion. Religious people are more happy in general. So who cares if it's true or not ?

>>76767072
roll

>>76767072
I iz rawlint

>>76770116
Too easy. Didn't even feel like I had to work for it. Reroll.

>>76768481
Placebo effect exaggerated and mostly just mean regression.

I personally visualize myself brutalizing minorities in prison while yelling white suprematist slogans. Is that what that guy is referring to?

>>76768481
SCHOLAR

>>76767046 (OP)
I have actually thought this before. If you think you're stalling you will stall but if you think you're growing you will grow

>>76769931
You're not first to think of this. It's called "Pascals wager". It's flawed because God knows your heart and intentions. Instead of thinking you can fuck over God try actually understanding him and hearing him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal%27s_wager

You're smart, but not as smart as you think you are.

>>76770643
Sure, it's limited at 20% to maybe 40% effect, but that is a huge amount compounded over time. That's why all pharmaceuticals are actually tested against placebo.

>>76770868
<3
"Feeling the muscle" is so back, I want a gymbro to touch my activated muscle during my workouts so bad now.

>>76771664
He's saying you should psyop yourself into genuine belief because it's good for your brain and feels nice, not because of some cost-benefit analysis of possibly going to heaven or hell

>>76771694
That anon >>76769931 literally made cost-benefit analysis, just in current timeframe instead of afterlife.
Pascal also did that, but he also did it for afterlife.

My point wasn't about that psyoping yourself into anything is bad, but it doesn't work. You can't fool yourself and neither can you fool God. You know when you are lying to yourself, even if you have good intentions for doing so.

The idea is to not live a lie, but to transcend the lie by questioning it to the point of obliterating everything else until truth is the only thing. Then you will have true belief in God, desire for holy communion and being a religious person.

Doing religious practices and going to a building with bell every Sunday isn't what will make you closer to God.

>>76771694
>>76771734
In fact, I would argue, that the reason why most people don't psyop themselves into anything is because you can't. You will know you don't really believe in God, but you're just going to church and praying. You will feel drained doing that, and bored.

>>76767072
based, rolling

>>76767046 (OP)
>Grow grow grow

>>76771734
>Being honest will make you hungry for crackers and wine
Sounds like a gains goblin to me lil bro.

>>76767046 (OP)
fuck you shlomo, i'm gonna to keep liftin'

>>76767072
I'm taking your roll, and imagining doing 72 prushups.
Enjoy your no gains while I get extra gains.

>>76767072
keep rollin rollin ROLLIN

>>76767768
I'm gonna try this with the "phrase don't be ugly".

>>76768481
How does this work on retards? Does retard strength come from them simply not understanding what strong is?

>>76768481
Makes sense, just like how women can imagine themselves into a false pregnancy, and those monks can raise their body temperature consciously.

>>76772513
Try the Bible diet, you won't regret it

>>76767046 (OP)
>imagine lifting while actually lifting
>135% muscle growth
Sounds retarded but it’s true

>>76767072
good idea, rollin

>>76767046 (OP)
STOP POSTING RANDOM BAIT IMAGES

THIS IS FROM A STUDY ABOUT MIND-MUSCLE CONNECTION WHILE WORKING OUT

ANYTIME THERE IS SOME BAIT BULLSHIT IT IS NOT FROM A REAL /FIT/IZEN

REPORT AND IGNORE YOU FAGGOTS

>>76768503
kek

>>76769897
maxalding is about doing max effort isometrics, using your own body as leverage, nothing about imagining muscle into existence

>>76768481
So can I recoverymaxx by going "heal heal heal" and imagining injuries or shredded muscle cells healing? Sounds retarded but that suits me

>>76767072
i trained my brain to failure, it took me 10 sec
Now time for some pushups ROLLAN

>>76767160
the best ones probably do already
You think tom brady didn't imagine himself holding a new super bowl ring every single day? You think he didn't visualize that paid off ref? No, he dreamt it until he lived it, faked it until he made it.

>>76773243
nonono, don't imagine lifting while you're lifting, that just makes you extra tired
You gotta imagine getting stronger when you're resting. Think about them heavy ass weights you lifted and gaslight yourself into thinking they were heavier. Imagine pushing up a car with your bench while you're laying back, dragging a plane, squatting some falling furniture to save a child
Trick your brain into thinking you need more muscles than you've actually earned

NO MATCH FOR MY SUPERIOR SPEED

>>76767046 (OP)
How do I lucid dream?

>>76775383
look up videos and consistently execute the methods that they speak of

Whats Dr Kike Israel take on this study?

>>76767046 (OP)
Yeah, because I want to be far stronger than 35% more. Also lrn2read. It's not saying you will continuously get 35% more gains. It is saying you will be able to lift 35% more that one time, period.
E.G. Your bench is a measly 100 lbs, which is probably true, and you do this imagining exercise and now your bench is 135 lbs. Guess what? It stays 135 lbs. Conversely the noobest of noobs benches for a week or two and exceeds 135 lbs and is now stronger than you without imagining.

>>76776965
he's cooking it up as we speak, but it'll be his first draft so we can't criticize too harshly

>>76767046 (OP)
grow grow grow

>>76767046 (OP)
To make the voices quiet.

>>76767135
a decade, im remembering almost 13 years here

>>76767046 (OP)
Doesnt that improve mind muscle connection?

>>76767046 (OP)
Yes. The other 65% increase will be from lifting.

>>76768481
Which part of the brain corresponds to niggers tonguing my anus?

>>76767046 (OP)
>Imagining muscle contractions
Specbros...we were right all along...

>>76771664
><3
>"Feeling the muscle" is so back, I want a gymbro to touch my activated muscle during my workouts so bad now.
Cute. I'll feel up your muscles, ye.