Thread 76777115

Took me a year but I finally did weighted dips for the first time. Why does this exercise work my chest better than anything else? I can feel it for days afterwards, all in my chest. press does not do this.

novel stimulus

>>76777152
>novel stimulus
>>76775606
>triceps was solved by richard the pianist bot:
>>>76771137
>bench gives u negative pecs that's why it's not for anything:
>>>76757609
>>>yes bot, bench gives u negative pecs :D course shoulders will get fucked, but the real curse is stiff injured pecs cause with retracted shoulder while pushing sternal part of muscle snags on ribcage, it will try to contract but will be constantly interrupted by BONE poking it, malformed injured muscle that is stiff & shortened will pull shoulders forward and into internal roll and lock thoracic spine into permanent flexion - ergo negative pecs, doesn't matter how much armpit part of muscle will grow, u won't even see it cause it will be hidden in your caved in posture

same is true for dips - shoulder in extension and retracted
it hurts much like shoulders hurt with lat raises without lat spread - u are getting "microtears" i.e. injuring yourself
and
chest doesn't grow noticeably

>>76777537
wide supine dips on rings solves all the problems with dips. with a wide position there's no bone rubbing and supine hand position prevents shoulder internal rotation. the last key is to grip the rings outside rather than normal as otherwise you will be pitched forward and doing a pelican a much harder biceps exercise

>>76777599
> but if u can iron cross u have pecs
> but if u bench half a tonn u have pecs
no bot, arm (humerus) in front shoulder PROTRACTED and pulling motion :D yes pulling, like cloombers pull their chest to their arm while cloombing:
>>76743917
>>76757573
>>76757609
>rope attached at shoulder height, powerband tied to it, i have put my wrist through powerband and PULLED WITH PROTRACTED SHOULDER DOWN TO OPPOSITE THIGH STANDING SIDEWAYS TO ROPE ATTACHMENT POINT

and triceps is here:

>triceps was solved by richard the pianist bot:
>>>76771137
>>and i was about to do triceps with support under elbow with dumbbell - load doesn't go through shoulder at all and it dawned on me
>>this pictured pose of dead roided and oiled up retard is exactly how i'm gonna do my triceps from now on - and i was right, it feels amazing, and nothing feels wrong :D
>>sit on yer arse bend over so that your elbow is at knee level, spread legs apart, step on powerband with opposite foot and hook powerband on wrist, extend elbow, THE BEST
>>course it is kinda awkward to lever through biceps side of elbow so use pad/ pillow in-between, and glute medius gets tired on supporting leg so i lodged other arm between my knees to spread the load that i'm delivering to triceps via powerband

Dips do something all other chest/tricep/shoulder compounds lifts dont do.

I find dips carry over like CRAZY to my bench press and overhead press.

Introducing weighted dips into my routine helped me gain 20%+ strength on bench and overhead press

>>76777834
> pich yo scaps, roll yer shoulders forward, fuck yer pecs up
> good
xD
>>76777772
>>76777537

I personally never liked bench press either bar and got really good at dips where I could do it close to with a 100 pound dumbbell between my legs. Just started off with high reps and low weight. kino exercise.


I think the DOMS you are describing comes from the dip giving you a good stretch. I am experimenting with dumbbell bench press and dumbbell flies currently because both give a good stretch and have a more natural movement pattern than barbell. So if you like dips tou might like those.

>>76777115 (OP)
because it rips your sternum apart

>>76779489
yhym :D
>>76778085
>> pinch yo scaps, roll yer shoulders forward, fuck yer pecs up
>> good

>>76779314
>I think the DOMS you are describing comes from the dip giving you a good stretch.
yeah yeah, very good tug as the muscle is all but switched off cause bone pokes it, the best way to fuck up some tendon :D

what did i fucking say bot, stop acting like u were ALWAYS that measured and reasonable:
>>76777537
but the real curse is stiff injured pecs cause with retracted shoulder while pushing sternal part of muscle snags on ribcage, it will try to contract but will be constantly interrupted by BONE poking it, malformed injured muscle that is stiff & shortened will pull shoulders forward and into internal roll and lock thoracic spine into permanent flexion - ergo negative pecs, doesn't matter how much armpit part of muscle will grow, u won't even see it cause it will be hidden in your caved in posture

same is true for dips - shoulder in extension and retracted
it hurts much like shoulders hurt with lat raises without lat spread - u are getting "microtears" i.e. injuring yourself
and

>>76780823
i wonder if this mofo is even real bot :D
>>76780842
>it's just that boiceps does fuckall here cause long head gets trapped under delt at shoulder tendon and whole biceps sputters
>shoulder tendon this sheeboon doesn't have in his left arm - yes by ripping long head shoulder tendon larry whilliamson made ultimate curl "adaptation" to his left arm lol :D

>>76780785
>>76777772
>>triceps was solved by richard the pianist bot:
>>>>76771137
>>>and i was about

>>76777537
Of course you'll injure yourself if you have bad form and don't know what you're doing
Aren't you also the guy who recommends isometric holds for chest? Lmao

>>76777537
>microtears
that's half the mechanism of muscle growth

>>76780866
Acording to the latest science pretty much all growth is caused by the mechanical tension. Getting a pump and damaging a muscle are just things that happen along by just lifting a weight to failure or close to it.

>>76780785
you don't retract scapula on dips the scapula freely moves like pushups

>>76782597
That sounds neat. Where can I read more?