Thread 76784017

Here's your redpill:
>deflate back to DYEL within 2-3 months after you stop roiding
>become even more DYEL since every injection permanently fucks up your natty test production
>need to do TRT (basically continue roiding and cruising) to look like a man
>need to take drugs to counter roid side effects (which leads to more side effects)
>roids substitude hard work, so your gains are basically fake since your metabolism, muscle growth and recovery are increased by 500%
>broken dick and norwooding will be the least of your worries
>your body actually knows you provide synthethic testosterone and since your balls don't produce the natural one, you pretty much feminize your brain. that's why roidfags usually act, think and behave like women

inb4 roidtroon cope posting

as opposed to being a nattyfag?

>>76784019
Cope harder tranny. You're not even a man anymore.

I'm a nattyfag and I troll both natties and roiders depending on the situation.
Natties are usually profoundly ignorant on the subject while roidgroids are low impulse control, vain cookie cutters.

Testosterone production depends on how you feel.
It decreases every time you fail. It increases every time you succeed. Be stoic, expect little, infinite gains, works for me, if it doesn't work for you, you behave like a vaginoid and that's why your test is low.
Not a meme, it's a biological reality, you have to act like a man to be a man.
This might explain why so called DYELs who don't get injured and lift for 15+ years are happy with their lives, and body dysmorphia roidtrannies end up logging out from this world before 30.

>>76784072
>Testosterone production depends on how you feel.
>It decreases every time you fail. It increases every time you succeed. Be stoic, expect little, infinite gains, works for me, if it doesn't work for you, you behave like a vaginoid and that's why your test is low.
>Not a meme, it's a biological reality, you have to act like a man to be a man.
I wonder if there is actually some merit and truth to it.

>>76784124
You can collect empirical evidence on your own.
Autists make gains easily in the gym because the number goes up like it did in a MMO.

>>76784017 (OP)
lol

> 3 years religiously lifting and eating with monastic stoic like discipline.
> Look like a dyel

>>76784072
That's fucking dumb, not how hormones work. This is the equivalent of retards in the past saying bad smells make people sick.

>>76784017 (OP)
People sleep on the fact that a single test injection permanently retards your bodies natural ability to produce test. It's not even conjecture, the literature is established we know exactly the biological mechanism which causes this. Google it if you don't believe it. My dad called me in tears when I told him this and he checked with his doctor, apparently ots explained in a pamphlet his doctor initially gave him and he ignored. I've never heard my dad cry before. Makes me chuckle thinking about it

>>76785635
>I've never heard my dad cry before. Makes me chuckle thinking about it
The quality of man on this site is truly breathtaking

>>76785635
>a single test injection permanently retards your bodies natural ability to produce test
So just one is enough to be turned into a tranny?

>>76784017 (OP)
>>76785635
>People sleep on the fact that a single test injection permanently retards your bodies natural ability to produce test
unironically. thankyou for the info.
so glad i always stayed natty. roiding crossed my mind a few times but never did it.
>>76785635
>This is the equivalent of retards in the past saying bad smells make people sick.
ok BUT things that smell bad are usually bad for you.

>>76785804
Yes tranny, whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>76784124
its true but fluctuations of test level within the normal natty range do fuck all.
But 4chan losers think if they become "high T" they will turn into a "chad" who gets all the pussy.
But in fact Johnny Football Hero may have a lower test level than some ugly retarded 4chan incel . The difference in outcomes is because the football chad spent his youth being active and socializing, not sitting alone in a dark room for 18 hours a day since age 9 jacking off to weird cartoons and playing video gaymes.

>>76785834
I jacked off to weird cartoons, played sports, played hours of video games, and constantly nutted in my big tittied gf in high school. You can have it all if you believe in yourself.

>>76785804
also i hate this fucking logic. my good memories don't pay rent either, paying rent does not intrinsically make something good. why would anything in my head somehow be justified by paying rent?

>>76785667
Might worth the risk
1 single testosterone injection might cause the same effect as a life long supply of testosterone suppressants

>>76785635
>bad smells make people sick
your mother's fishy vagina made me sick
>my dad cry
now that I think about it, it might've been your dad's neovagina

ok but what if your test is really fucking low should I just continue being a eunuch or should I hop on TRT

Didn't read I'mma keep juicing till i cant no more so what if i ate my dogs head again it was in the freezer and my drugs are making me stronger the girl at the gym needs me to fuck her with my ass on her cock. You cant even bench 1 plate natty whats up with that

>>76788955
Try Clomid, fixing your sleep, diet and cardio first. There is no guarante that TRT would even work for you, majority of people have problem "dialing in". You might feel even worse than pre-TRT.

>>76788973
What does Clomid do?

>>76785635
What kind of son are you, nigga?

>>76788977
>Clomid (clomiphene citrate) can raise testosterone levels by signaling the brain to produce more luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH), which in turn stimulates the testes to make more testosterone. It is often used as a treatment for men with low testosterone (hypogonadism) because it can increase endogenous testosterone production while also potentially preserving fertility and sperm count, making it an alternative to testosterone replacement therapy (TRT).

>Increases endogenous testosterone: Unlike TRT, which involves directly supplying testosterone, Clomid works by stimulating your body's own natural production.

>Symptoms can improve: Men with low testosterone may experience improvements in symptoms like fatigue, decreased libido, and erectile dysfunction.

>>76788987
Huh. Thanks anon, if I eventually can't handle having test in the 200s then I'll consider this.

>>76784017 (OP)
>>76784027
An entire generation of men has been gaslit into thinking that chemically castrating themselves is normal.

Even if theoretically it would help them have sex, it defeats the entire purpose since they'll never be able to have children.
All this lookism faggotry ends turning people into genetic dead ends.

>>76788990
Won't do you any harm. It's not TRT. It's just there to help your body produce your own.

Even if it doesn't help you, it won't harm you like TRT if you stop taking it.

>>76788955
what will you do when you "raise your T" and you're still a bitch? What will you blame it on then?

>>76789001
myself probably

>>76788994
what if i dont want to have children anyways?

>>76784017 (OP)
Ultimate redpill is that lifting for purely aesthetic purposes is gay. I'm not being hyperbolic, its female coded homosexual behavior.

Get a set of heavy kettlebells, a squat rack and a rowing machine. Throw some swimming, cycling or jogging into your routine as well. Enjoy being healthy, fit and strong well into your 60's.

>>76789003
If you did that from the start, your T would rise naturally.

>>76789107
I've been doing that for 10+ years

>>76784019
once acquired, never lost

>>76789111
Obviously you didn't do the obvious second step after you blame yourself.

>>76789117
what is the 2nd step

>>76789120
It only works if you do it yourself.

>>76789041
Most people would get way bigger and yes stronger if they focused on bodybuilding also. Being stronger every single week means you arent training hard enough.

>>76789131
it's so over bros

>>76784017 (OP)
roidtroons btfo
>BUT MUH PERMAJUICING

>>76784019
The butthurt roider comes out of the bushes again

>>76784017 (OP)
Some kid at my gym constantly comes on and off gear and looks drastically different every 6 months or so
>Will be skinny as fuck, 13" arms looking like he just got out of a fucking concentration camp
>Then over a few short months he blows the fuck up, arms go absolutely massive, chest gains decent size, but don't think he ever trains legs
>He will be jacked as fuck for months then, just gaining pure muscle week after week
>But then he will dramatically lose a ton of weight
>Then he will randomly blow up and get fat as fuck
>Then he might get jacked again after a few months fat, gaining muscle and losing fat simultaneously
>But eventually he shrinks down and becomes super skinny again, looking like an untrained novice
But I've been watching this shit for like 4 years now, I guarantee he blows up and gets hench as fuck again in a few months. He claims natty but I don't believe him

Damn, it's almost like the human body isn't actually suppose to be like that

>>76784017 (OP)
>that's why roidfags usually act, think and behave like women
Makes sense. They tend to be very confrontational

horseshoe theory

>>76789268
I would let him suck my dick while I called him a fag

>>76789268
lol

>>76789278
we know

>>76789232
none of this happened but if it did its entirely due to his own stupidity.
But like I said you're full of shit so who cares

>>76784017 (OP)
I’ve been on and off for a decade. When does all the stuff you describe happen to me?

>>76784017 (OP)
>roiders are mentally ill performative attention seekers
more news at 8

>>76784017 (OP)
Unironically I would kill myself if I had this transformation in only 2 months

>>76788994
>shrunken testicles because they don't need to produce as much test

Use it or lose it?

>>76789268
mighty booshmaxxing

>>76790396
>I'm Old Haaagg

if steroid users weren't such massive faggots this would not be an issue. I go to the gym with the goal of being able to lift heavy stuff. you won't find me posting videos/pictures or wearing tight shirts.

you're all kind of gay, actually. natty or non-natty you all participate in this looks-obsessive faggotry. It has it roots in e-celeb work out influencer worship. I want to lift heavy boulders and fat bitches, you want to "look good". We are not the same. /fit/ is gay.

>>76784017 (OP)
Let us see a picture of you sitting down on a couch
You do realize people dont have abs sitting down when they're relaxed right?

>>76784072
This is arthoe crystal healing tier logic

>>76792524
The guy is obviously lost his muscles and is fat.

>>76792524
weird cope

>>76784017 (OP)
>YOU MUST ALWAYS STAY NATTY BECAUSE ONE DAY YEARS FROM NOW YOU WILL STOP LIFTING AND ROIDING AND THEN LOOK LIKE A NATTY
uh......ok?

>>76784017 (OP)
>>become even more DYEL since every injection permanently fucks up your natty test production
Not really

>>76790000
show body then lol

>>76784019
Retard