Thread 76797075

OKAY MOTHERFUCKER, THEN EXPLAIN TO ME WHY I'VE PLATEAU'D AT 125 AND I CAN'T GO ANY LOWER. I EAT ONE MEAL A DAY AND I AM NOT SNEAKING IN ANY BITES. HOW THE FUCK DO I ACHIEVE 115

>>76797075 (OP)
Most foods are bioactive and modulate either your CI or your CO, so focus on foods that upregulate your CO and downregulate your CI.

>>76797075 (OP)
Your CI ~= CO
lower your CI or increase your CO

>>76797075 (OP)
More LISS

I went almost two weeks at the same weight for some reason and then in like two days dropped three pounds on the scale. You gotta just trust the process man. The body fights thermodynamics but eventually newton wins.

>>76797075 (OP)
>Plateau
Just keep going, maybe reduce food even further if it's been there for a whole month but plateaus are normal, your body can't make energy from nothing
Careful not to suffer malnutrition

>>76797075 (OP)
Your maintenance goes down as you lose weight

>>76797075 (OP)
>just
yeah, that's a lie, it's also hormones and more, and CO can vary enormously in hard to track ways - for example, you could have plateaued because your NEAT has dropped without you noticing.
but this is like saying a rudder doesn't steer a ship because the wind and waves also affect the ship.
>its just rudder left rudder
>OKAY MOTHERFUCKER EXPLAIN WHY THIS WHALE IS MOVING ME RIGHT NOW

>>76797220
I lost 50 lbs in a year from a consistent 300 kcal deficit, trying to only eat 1700 and in retrospect eating 2000 on average while burning 2300. I lost the weight but my body also degenerated in subtle ways. Even my sleep apnea got suddenly much worse and I found myself doing lots of tongue and throat exercises to rebuild.
>Careful not to suffer malnutrition
I was fat the entire time. Was I not careful enough? I think "use it or lose it" applies regardless of your nutrition, and focusing only on a calorie deficit causes you to not use it, so you lose it.

meanwhile, in the last year I've been very stable while eating 2500-3000 kcal, and recently slightly lost weight, while gaining muscle + very obvious muscle definition. It's much nicer. I did a lot of easy cardio then and I still do some cardio now. The big difference is that I lift now.

>>76797075 (OP)
Lol how much do you weigh and what's your meal. Show us your work, buddy.

>>76797075 (OP)
>PLATEAU'D AT 125
125kg, right?

>>76797075 (OP)
Because you don't know how to count calories

Have you tried doing a high-fruit/carb diet with maintenance levels of protein?

>>76797075 (OP)
Eat less calories.
Fast if you have to.

You're not a magical creature. You cannot create energy out of thin air. You eat your energy.

>>76797075 (OP)
how many calories are in those meals
how tall are you
how long have you been plateauing

>>76797075 (OP)
Logging error / using an expenditure coefficient that isn't accurate. (sedentary as a setting is not usually sedentary enough to reflect the modern reality of sedentary)
Temporary metabolic depression. The human metabolism is flexible not much but +/- 12% that's about 200 calories on a 1600 bmr which isn't usually enough on its own but coupled with any other error in logging it can put you off target a ways.

>>76797239
You're the whale, and hormones can't create fat from air and water.

>>76797075 (OP)
It's called adaptive thermogenesis.

>>76798359
Good thing literally nobody made anything even close to in the ballpark of that argument.

>>76798530
All of this explanation gymnastics when you could just admit that CICO is a gooddamn LIE

>>76798682
Ok

>>76798682
>all.this complex geometry and cosmological equations when you could just say the earth is FLAT

>>76798682
it's not a lie, just poorly defined

even among CICO fans they don't know that CI varies drastically, so they think CI = what the calories on the nutrition facts say, when in reality your body will dinamically use protein and fat as energy or for body functions depending on the situation

>>76799152
>even among CICO fans they don't know that CI varies drastically, so they think CI = what the calories on the nutrition facts say,
no this is a strawman or autism about people using simplification to get the main point across

>dinamically

>>76799169
>this is a strawman
it isn't

>>76798682
CICO is just energy balance which is just mass balance. You can’t not lose weight if you shit and piss and sweat and breathe out more mass than you shovel down your gullet daily you fat retard.

>>76799297
Not that non, but are you saying its not possible to excrete more mass than you take in if you are in a balanced energy state?

>>76797075 (OP)
>I EAT ONE MEAL A DAY
Looks like you need to eat less. At least you now know the calories, and maybe other macros, it takes to stay at 125

>>76799194
Yes it is, which is why you have to construct the argument in your own post rather than citing a bunch of other people saying it. Concepts like TEF, adaptive thermogenesis and metabolism variance are addressed all the time and generally accounted for automatically in calorie counting apps.

>>76797075 (OP)
people will tell you it's CICO and "abs are made in the kitchen" etc etc but one thing they dont mention is that its a lot easier to

>look good at a higher bodyweight
>not have to eat tiny amounts in order to lose weight

when you have a decent amount of muscle on your frame

if youre already eating nothing and still having trouble losing weight thats a body composition problem

lift weights

What CICOtrannies will never do is post body because hyperfocusing on a (shit) metric makes you a skeleton with 0 CO.

>>76798530
That's a cute buzzword to say "muscle wasting".

>>76797172
>LISS
This is the unfortunate truth, I didn't lose weight dieting until I started hitting the stair climber everyday.

>>76799383
yes, calories are a unit of energy which are directly convertible to units of mass which you cannot deny that to lose weight mass in must be less than mass out and vice versa

>>76797075 (OP)
ywnbaw

>>76799978
I have no idea what your post is even trying to say.

>>76800024
You didn't answer my question. I asked in a situation in which you are in energy balance, aka you are not gaining or losing weight. Are you saying that it's impossible to excrete more mass than you consume?

>>76800024
You didn't answer my question. I asked in a situation in which you are in energy balance, aka you are not gaining or losing weight. Are you saying that it's impossible to excrete more mass than you consume in terms of caloric value?

>>76797075 (OP)
metabolism auto regulates you have to shock the body by fasting

>>76797075 (OP)
kys NIGGER

>>76800182
Don't worry about it.

>>76797075 (OP)
Chen

If you’ve limited your ci to the absolute minimum then you need to increase your co I eat like 2 king size candy bars a day and am actually losing weight because I bicycle everywhere and then take 15k+ steps a day at work

>>76797075 (OP)
Eating one meal a day means absolutely nothing. Do you know how easy it is to consume your entire days worth of calories in one sitting?
Never mind the fact that by eating 1 meal a day you have completely wrecked your metabolism. I have no idea what your lifestyle is like, but I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re burning as few as 1500 calories a day, and eating just as much in your one meal a day diet