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is BJJ a real sport? does it work on the streets?
Anonymous No.76799541 [Report] >>76800136
>>76799501 (OP)
It's gay

>Does it work
1 on 1, sure
Anonymous No.76799543 [Report] >>76799666
>>76799501 (OP)
is striking not allowed?

taekwondo has a similar issue where girls will just inch forward with their leg up
Anonymous No.76799548 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
>does it work on the streets?
Only if its 1 on 1. Anywhere else you are going to get stomped out while you going for a submission.
I forget who but i remember 1 mma say if you're getting jumped by multiple people and cant get away to take at least 1 guy down with your head buried in their arm or something so that at least you wont get knocked out and hit with no resistance. You still get fucked up but less head trauma i guess
Anonymous No.76799554 [Report] >>76802204
>>76799501 (OP)
It's the same as crosshit, meme sport for people with mediocre genetics who would never make it as athletes in any serious sport but enough daddy money and willpower and insecurity to roid and train x years to compete and get a mickey mouse trophy
Anonymous No.76799666 [Report] >>76807920
>>76799501 (OP)
>>76799543
There's no striking, just grappling.
It's a sport, but there's a reason BJJ matches are controlled like this and you rarely see it in street fights. Judo throws are probably more common in fights.
sage No.76799698 [Report] >>76800021
>>76799501 (OP)
Anything works if you're stronger than your opponent
Anonymous No.76799704 [Report] >>76800027 >>76803259
>>76799501 (OP)
I wish striking practice be done without brain damage.
You can train on a bag but human heads move differently.
Anonymous No.76799706 [Report] >>76800132 >>76800812 >>76801660 >>76801739
>>76799501 (OP)
>is BJJ a real sport?
Pic related and Joe Rogan, both walking stacks of manlet play-dohs, are bjj black belts, that's all i needed to know to stick with kickboxing.
Anonymous No.76799723 [Report] >>76801739 >>76802622 >>76803041
>>76799501 (OP)
>OUTTA MY WAY YOU FLOOR-ROLLING SHIT
Anonymous No.76799742 [Report] >>76800032 >>76803049
>>76799501 (OP)
BJJ was given such an advantage in early UFCs with its clearly one-sided hand-picked competition to make Gracie look good, and then later on when unified rules made kicking and kneeing and stomping and 12-6 elbows illegal.

And then even with those rules that favor floor hugging aka BJJ, it still got smashed to bits by anyone with a half-decent background in any other sort of grappling whether it's american wrasslin or chechnyan sambo.
Georges Saint Pierre was originally a Karate fighter but his most dominating years was him simply taking people down to the ground and laying on top of them, and then simply standing up if there was a triangle or arm bar being set up.
Anonymous No.76800021 [Report] >>76800094 >>76805624
>>76799698
what if i'm faster?
Anonymous No.76800027 [Report] >>76803259
>>76799704
use a watermelon?
Anonymous No.76800032 [Report]
>>76799742
>but his most dominating years was him simply taking people down to the ground and laying on top of them
i'd like to do that with a lady
Anonymous No.76800094 [Report]
>>76800021
Less things will work
Anonymous No.76800122 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
Its a good counter to wrestling I guess in a 1v1.
>youre nuts just never learn to fight
Ok wow now i feel even more masculine now that i have a tactical purse and fashion in case someone i could never ever beat comes along because they must be on steroids.
>applies lipstick
As i was saying the absolute gall of some people to even practice martial arts what absolute-
>fixes bra and pants
morons they have a loose grip on reality at best and are always doing stupid shit when thats just not the way the world works at all.
Anonymous No.76800132 [Report] >>76802591
>>76799706
>800 meters in more than 5 minutes
>1,5 m jump
>Frankenstein walk, even before taking an axe to the back
>gassed out after a single set of bench press
I still don't get it, I really don't
Anonymous No.76800136 [Report]
>>76799541
Anderson silva mainly did muay thai and bjj, but idk if thats gonna work so well on brock without a little more power since he can actually close the distance and oneshot. Or ngannou, jones, etc grappling gets more restricted the better and stronger your opponent is.
Anonymous No.76800141 [Report] >>76800175
>>76799501 (OP)
Ten years of martial arts experience here, short answer is yes, it does work, in fact it excels on bad defensive situations, if you are losing or the guy is larger, the entire sport revolves around reversing from a bad position, to the point most guys are comfortable from the bottom, leading into that whole BJJ guys laying on the ground meme. Of course you do learn a lot of takedown techniques.
Anonymous No.76800175 [Report] >>76800313 >>76800564 >>76804389
>>76800141
>Approached by a wild pack of niggers
>Lay on the ground ala faggot bjj style
>Tyrone, Deshawn and Le'Quarius kick your head into the concrete
Yes, I can see how it excels in bad defensive situations
Anonymous No.76800313 [Report] >>76800361 >>76800849 >>76804389
>>76800175
First rule of self defense is "don't be there". If you can't avoid niggers then you don't need to learn a martial art, you need to improve your social-economic status.
Anonymous No.76800335 [Report]
BJJ beyond a blue belt is countering other BJJ guys, this is why it gets meta like the added file
Anonymous No.76800361 [Report] >>76800556 >>76802573 >>76804389
>>76800313
This is a stupid catch 22 argument, because a nigger is the only thing that will attack you. You don't need to have professional fighting experience period if you don't live around nogs. If you do live around them, however, BJJ doesn't mean shit and won't help you anyways, because of reasons like the post you quoted.
Anonymous No.76800367 [Report]
It's extremely advanced. It has its own ruleset and becomes very weird at the advanced stages.
Especially at the division you're seeing.
Anonymous No.76800405 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
This is jeet kun do anon, as evident by the jeets trying to slapfight very ineffectively
Anonymous No.76800448 [Report] >>76800460
>>76799501 (OP)
>is BJJ a real sport?

Yes, but it's a lame sport due to rulings.

>does it work on the streets?

Against an inexperienced fighters or anybody that doesn't have a BJJ background, sure. Try BBJ in the streets against a mma fighter and you are going to have a hard time. There's no rules protecting you in a street fight. BJJ is still effective, but now you have a lot more careful.
Anonymous No.76800460 [Report] >>76800503 >>76800543 >>76802212 >>76802834 >>76811948
>>76800448
what are the biggest problems in using BJJ in the street compared with a ring? is getting your arm or neck bitten off an issue, or overhyped?
Anonymous No.76800503 [Report]
>>76800460
>what are the biggest problems in using BJJ in the street compared with a ring?
NTA but beyond the immediacy of falling on your back in a nice padded ring vs falling on your back on a cement or concrete surface, there's also all the silly modern MMA rules that protect BJJ bottoms from getting soccer kicked & stomped or even kneed in the face should they be touching the ground.

and then in streets fights, even if you land on top you now have to worry about his friends o random tough guy wanting to get inolved running up on you to break a bar stool over your head or stab you or something.

Best thing in a street fight is to knock someone down and run away. You ideally don't want to be rolling on the ground even if you're on top of someone.
Anonymous No.76800543 [Report]
>>76800460
getting your head stomped in bc you chose to pull guard.
or getting your head stomped in by your opponents friend
Anonymous No.76800556 [Report] >>76800948
>>76800361
I dunno bro its a hobby. You don't have to use a gun you bought either.
Anonymous No.76800564 [Report] >>76800849 >>76801629 >>76803641
>>76800175
I'm using your retarded post to show how effective bjj is. Here's some videos for anyone interested.
https://youtu.be/6fnJVUjvqvc
https://youtu.be/TXYAVfravYI
https://youtube.com/shorts/rbFnW-K-mZA
https://youtube.com/shorts/GvqGUAQxiS4
Anonymous No.76800588 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
It is and it does work but its still gay.
Anonymous No.76800687 [Report] >>76800835 >>76801084
>>76799501 (OP)
is football a real sport? does it work on the streets?
Anonymous No.76800812 [Report] >>76813048
>>76799706
joe rogan also does taekwondo, muay thai and kickboxing
Anonymous No.76800835 [Report] >>76801084
>>76800687
Yes, I've seen many kids successfully play football in the street.
Anonymous No.76800849 [Report] >>76800888 >>76802227 >>76804526
>>76800313
You’re a literal fucking retard.

Here I’ll fill you guys in

>purple belt in bjj
>boxed all my life
>old fag now 32 18-21 I fought mma all over
>shitload of street fights
>no I have not won every fight

If the opponent is drunk bjj is hella useful. I was wasted and was brawling someone and they just kept hugging me on ground. I was dying laughing whole time so it wasn’t really a fight and when I stood up I just pinged his head in. If you know only bjj and you think you can close the distance quick and do what you have to (keep in mind you can’t really shoot on concrete) you’ll be fine. But if you only do bjj and you fear getting hit it’s going to be BAD if the other person has any striking ability. Works decent in the cage where there’s no head stomps, groin strikes, padded gloves, etc. in a street fight it will help but it’s not an end all. You’re better off boxing honestly.

>>76800564
Also watch the fight he was handling Gracie very well and the Gracie’s put like 30 rules on the guy “uhh no headbutts” “uhh no kicks that way” they’re fucking Weeners why they got booty blasted in pride so badly.


Perfect for street fighting:
Judo and boxing you’ll literally take out 99.9% of people.
Anonymous No.76800888 [Report] >>76800977 >>76800981 >>76800994
>>76800849
>You’re better off boxing honestly.
I agree, I have 8 years of boxing. You are massive poser tho, this made up scenario where the BJJ guy laying down gets groin or head smash and folds, simply doesn't happen on a real life grappling, to even assume that's how BJJ guys fight is crazy. Don't believe me? Watch old school Gracie dojo storms where they would go to karate gyms and beat those guys up, on hard floors. They close up the distance and at that point its very difficult to hit a guy with no space, you should know that if you fought a lot.
Anonymous No.76800948 [Report] >>76800994
>>76800556
Sure, you just were trying to allude to it being a street fight tool of some kind
Anonymous No.76800977 [Report] >>76801000 >>76803269
>>76800888
I’ve had guard pulled on me. I used head butts. Guard ended. I’ve been in wayyyy more fights than you man I was doing this shit when pride was on tv lol. Grappling is fucking gay and not useful man. You’re dreaming. Watch any pride event ever.

>sprawl
>soccer kicks
>pull guard
>headbutts

Like this isn’t rocket science little zoomer better pack a zyn before I come shave your broccoli top
Anonymous No.76800981 [Report] >>76803269
>>76800888
The Gracie’s were all homos who had gay buttsex together and used jiu jitsu as an excuse for it. They’d literally “storm dojos” I haven’t seen any video. And then they’d make rules up for the fight.

>AS REAL AS IT GETS IF ITS IN MY RULE BASE
Anonymous No.76800994 [Report] >>76803269
>>76800948
Ignore this dweeb same as
>>76800888
You can tell they’re sweeter than a pussy dipped in whipped cream just like the Gracie clan
Anonymous No.76801000 [Report] >>76801008
>>76800977
>You’re dreaming. Watch any pride event ever.
For me it's the Emelianenko vs Nogueira trilogy
Anonymous No.76801008 [Report]
>>76801000
Loved those fights. Some good ones involving bjj vs striker

Edson Carvalho vs Igor Vovchanchyn
Gomi vs Ralph Gracie

Absolutely annihilated after Gracie’s couldn’t put rules in
Anonymous No.76801084 [Report]
>>76800687
>>76800835
It's called the 'hood.
Anonymous No.76801547 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
Bjj is a huge counter to all other grappling, but if youre only good at bjj good luck getting someone on the ground or not getting kod especially in a street fight. Kind of the lamest one trick pony martial art imo but also one of the super high skill cieling ones.
Anonymous No.76801584 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
Looks like that time at my high school they had a talent show and one of the retards slipped his wrangler and started dancing in the middle of the gym floor.
Anonymous No.76801629 [Report]
>>76800564
woah he beat up some fat fuck fake wrestler who's best known fight was getting G&P'd for 8 minutes straight? real impressive
Anonymous No.76801635 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
Anything not boxing, muay thai, kickboxing or wrestling and judo is worthless. Fuck the ufc for cucking to the gracie faggots and enabling them, and fuck them for popularizing this worthless aggressive cuddling and rolling on the floor with sweaty men.
Anonymous No.76801660 [Report]
>>76799706
Same phenotype as Alex Karp
Anonymous No.76801739 [Report]
>>76799723
>>76799706
>>76799501 (OP)
No thanks with your copes, I'm just going to stick with 2 gun thanks!
Anonymous No.76802031 [Report]
Mikey does this retarding hopping shit because of rulesets that do not permit pulling guard. If he's hopping on one leg and ends up on the floor due to his opponent touching him and off-balancing him, it goes down as a takedown for the opponent but crucially Mikey can now start every reset from the ground because that's where his opponent put him after the 'takedown'.

Gordon did a similar thing against Nicky Rod where he gave him his leg and Nicky took the bait. Now the fight is on the ground, Nicky's wrestling experience is neutralised 5 seconds into the fight and Gordon melts him:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpJ_YUIu_L8&t=4m49s
Anonymous No.76802202 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
BJJ works one on one and also gets you used to handling pressure and conserving energy. If someone takes you down unexpectedly I think BJJ is great to know, i.e stay calm, don't gas, turn around quickly and get him in guard and try to sweep or sub

On the street? Look at KOTS fights. It's more rare but can save you from getting destroyed if you're on bottom. Vs multiple opponents? Lol
Anonymous No.76802204 [Report] >>76803050
>>76799554
And what trophys do you have?
Anonymous No.76802212 [Report]
>>76800460
Start doing backwards rolls/crawling around on concrete vs a mat and you'll immediately see why
Anonymous No.76802227 [Report]
>>76800849
>you cant shoot on concrete

You can still jab cross, level change grab their leg you don't need to drop down on your knee and slide like a wrestler
Anonymous No.76802554 [Report] >>76802557 >>76802613
>>76799501 (OP)
bjj is dumb bc i tried out a free trial and the senseis were being catty bitches laughing from the side whenever i demonstrated the technique they'd just taught me and were like oooh real fighter and said stupid shit like white belt rage anytime i went faster than half speed...i play rugby and basketball and controlled quickness is the name of the game in both
Anonymous No.76802557 [Report]
>>76802554
ngl i got anime club vibes, maybe it's just the one gym
Anonymous No.76802573 [Report]
>>76800361
You're right and it boils down to getting a CC permit and learn your local laws for using a firearm for self defense. Ideally you will live somewhere where you can avoid the joggers.
Anonymous No.76802591 [Report] >>76802597
>>76800132
>shitting on one of the most recognizable and respected faces of fitness industry
What have you accomplished? Post body. Oh wait, you won't.
Anonymous No.76802597 [Report] >>76802618 >>76805698
>>76802591
he is famous because people love to hate him, not respect him, he is like the Piers Morgan of fitness
Anonymous No.76802613 [Report] >>76802660
>>76802554
>controlled quickness
>i was too fast for them
You are definitely a tryhard beginner.
Anonymous No.76802618 [Report]
>>76802597
>not respect him
If it was someone like arnold, everyone respects him. Nobody respects a guy who does steroids and is fat as shit
Anonymous No.76802622 [Report] >>76802631 >>76804007
>>76799723
many such moves are banned and this is why UFC has only leghumper champions, sad.
Anonymous No.76802631 [Report]
>>76802622
i think it's fair that this avoid people getting turned retarded, but it's a bit crazy to call those rules real MMA, when you could do different rules that would benefit different fighting styles
Anonymous No.76802660 [Report]
>>76802613
trying is good actually
Anonymous No.76802682 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
I have a Kyokushin background.

Honestly, for "the streets" learn Judo and Boxing.
Anonymous No.76802834 [Report]
>>76800460
One on one with no weapons there's no real issue, the problem is when you start adding factors that are likely to happen in a street fight.
If he has friends or someone doesn't like what you're doing you are getting stomp like a roach.
If he has a weapon you could in theory control their arm but is better to knock them out before they pull their weapon.
If there's multiple opponents you're beyond fucked.
If you go for a takedown there's a chance you hit your own head on the concrete.

In a street fight you should aim to end the fight as quickly as possible to get out as quickly as possible, bjj takes too long.
Anonymous No.76802851 [Report]
It's a fake useless sport.
T. Guy who's never been in a fight
Anonymous No.76802896 [Report] >>76803073
What do you think the 6 most effective martial arts? Boxing, Brazilian_Jiu-Jitsu, Judo, Kickboxing, Muay_Thai, and Wrestling seems like it would make you the most well-rounded fighter. Taekwondo seems like a meme.
Anonymous No.76803041 [Report]
>>76799723
The guy doing the stomping is a BJJ black belt though
Anonymous No.76803049 [Report] >>76803054 >>76803060 >>76803429
>>76799742
GSP is also a BJJ black belt and would do his walkouts in a gi
Anonymous No.76803050 [Report] >>76803999
>>76802204
Pumping your mom grand tour #1 anal category #2 vaginal #1 overall
Anonymous No.76803054 [Report] >>76803115
>>76803049
that's his karate black belt, do you see his divine wind headband? JAPAN not BRASIL
Anonymous No.76803060 [Report] >>76803075 >>76803115 >>76803115
>>76803049
MMA fighters get BJJ black belts for winning fights, it's a marketing gimmick for the fighter, the gym and by extension the martial art
>gi
A karate gi, because he was a karate nerd
Anonymous No.76803073 [Report] >>76803082
>>76802896
Wrestling does not make you the most well rounded fighter. TKD is good for children as an entry to martial arts. Every TKD person I have ever trained with had amazing kicks and striking overall. Everyone seems to forget that UFC has rules that favor grappling, which is why it wrestling is so dominant in it.
MT with clinch is the best martial art to learn. Elbows and knees are brutal.
Anonymous No.76803075 [Report] >>76803091 >>76803429
>>76803060
I mean GSP also was coached by Danaher, so he likely does have a legit bjj black belt. Unless you're saying John needed a marketing gimmick
Anonymous No.76803082 [Report] >>76803083
>>76803073
Have you ever heard of Lethwei? It seems like Muay Thai but with headbutts. It only seems popular in Wyoming insofar as the United States.
Anonymous No.76803083 [Report]
>>76803082
Lethwei is a meme. Headbutts don't need to be trained, it's intuitive. CTE city. It's literally ancient MT. I would be wary of any gym pretending to be a lethwei gym.
Anonymous No.76803091 [Report] >>76803317
>>76803075
That's fair
Danaher is a weird dude but the kind of autist you want training you I guess
Anonymous No.76803095 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
Its funny how serious these guys take jiu jitsu but then they make it look like a fuckin joke
Anonymous No.76803115 [Report] >>76803320 >>76803429 >>76810132 >>76813038
>>76803060
>>76803054
Look at the cut on it. It’s a Hayabusa BJJ gi

>>76803060
He trained at Renzo’s with Danaher. He’s a legit BB
Anonymous No.76803259 [Report] >>76803274
>>76799704
>>76800027
this may sound like a fag cope, but is it possible to train striking and evading with something like a VR headset? Where i live there is no boxing gym so i wonder if its better than nothing or in the contrary it could create some bad habits
Anonymous No.76803269 [Report]
>>76800981
>>76800994
If you really think they are sweet, I am afraid you fell for their non-threatening image they cultivated for the white-upper class American market. They used to be a bunch of asshole bastards, doing whatever it takes to promote your style is sadly the way things are, you can be honorable later when you made it.

for >>76800977 if you can headbutt from a guard, you are not on a guard. You never practiced any for of wrestling or you wouldn't be saying this silly shit. I am an unc btw.
Anonymous No.76803274 [Report]
>>76803259
>is it possible to train striking and evading with something like a VR headset?
You can train striking without a VR headset. You can't train slipping a punch with a VR headset.
Anonymous No.76803317 [Report]
>>76803091
psychopath not autist, but yeah
Anonymous No.76803320 [Report] >>76803431
>>76803115
nope, thats not a bjj gi, thats a karate gi. you can tell by the shorter sleeves. normal sleeves = bjj, large normal length sleeves is judo.
Anonymous No.76803429 [Report]
>>76803049
>>76803075
>>76803115
no one would ever describe GSP's fighting style as BJJ.

To this day he's still out at the montreal wrestling club.
Anonymous No.76803431 [Report] >>76803448
>>76803320
Yeah now that I look at it you’re right.

However I stick by my point which is GSP absolutely studied BJJ to the black belt level, and furthermore, BJJ is definitely something you need for MMA
Anonymous No.76803448 [Report]
>>76803431
for sure, I mean GSP coaching staff includes Danaher and Faraz Zahabi
Anonymous No.76803554 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
buh jay jay sisters... they're making fun of us again...
Anonymous No.76803641 [Report]
>>76800564
Rickson so shamelessly ducked Saku that he fucking retired instead of fighting him. He also refused to fight in the pride openweight tournament against vovchanchyn and the rest of the actually good fighters because he’d rather fight bums. Never bring up this shameless ducking faggot again.
Anonymous No.76803999 [Report]
>>76803050
T. Virgin
Anonymous No.76804007 [Report] >>76804022 >>76805397
>>76802622
Yet surely every single BJJ guy would have been stomped out in pride or early UFC if it doesn't work???

Oh wait, you can't just stomp someone out when they tangle your leg up/up kick your face
Anonymous No.76804022 [Report] >>76804230
>>76804007
Its meaningless to explain that stuff to someone that never trained grappling of any kind. They figure its something out of a movie where they touch the guy's eye, he instantly release and get stomped once and pass out. Bas explained that shit for dummies 20 years ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LT3g51f25qo
Anonymous No.76804230 [Report] >>76804283
>>76804022
retard alert
there is no stomping because it's against the rules in UFC. same reason why there are no grounded knees to the head.
also there are barely any high level BJJ guys in UFC
Anonymous No.76804283 [Report] >>76804351 >>76804359
>>76804230
We are talking about Pride and early UFC, it was allowed. Besides there's no BJJ guys now, they used to dominate before the musies.
Anonymous No.76804351 [Report]
>>76804283
Early early UFC was a clown show that was barely one step above pro wrestling where they would intentionally pick D-tier retired sumo wrestlers and literal who boxers as well as retards in make-believe 15th degree black belts in self-taught garage karate to make Gracie look good.

I wouldn't be surprised if fighters were paid to throw fights.
Anonymous No.76804359 [Report]
>>76804283
>there's no BJJ guys now, they used to dominate before the musies.
There was maybe BJ Penn for a minute but otherwise GSP grew up learning Karate and later adopted wrestling as his main style. Anderson Silva had a black belt but he was a striker's striker.
Jon Jones was equal parts striker and grappler with a college wrestling background.
Anonymous No.76804389 [Report]
>>76800175
>>76800313
>>76800361
Is this some kinda fetish for you guys?
Anonymous No.76804526 [Report] >>76804548
>>76800849
>Judo and boxing you’ll literally take out 99.9% of people.
Yes, let's take the sport where 99% of takedowns won't work if your opponent is wearing a sleeveless shirt.
Anonymous No.76804548 [Report]
>>76804526
You know how I know you don’t know what you’re talking about?
Anonymous No.76805397 [Report]
>>76804007
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qj3H4aXxAvQ
Almost all of the cases of kicks/stomps to the head of a grounded opponent the recipient is already exhausted or rocked and a TKO should be called. This is because pride had very poor refereeing and they were far too late to call a TKO. Very few of them came when someone was still intelligently defending themselves. If you're in guard and you're intelligently defending yourself then you should be able to use your feet on their torso almost always to prevent it, but occasionally it slips through. Watch the video if you don't believe me.
Knees are different, but you need to know ground grappling to do them, because they usually come from a sprawl, side control, north south and occasionally a side turtle. And if you're on the receiving end you need to know ground grappling to prevent them.
Anonymous No.76805624 [Report] >>76805635
>>76800021
strength is mass times speed you fucking retard.
Anonymous No.76805635 [Report]
>>76805624
that's momentum, not strength, strength is mass times acceleration, you haven't opened a physics book in 20 years
Anonymous No.76805653 [Report] >>76808359
>>76799501 (OP)
>Ugly Faggot Club: Blow Job Job Edition
Human papillomavirus infection is a competition now? Did Dr. Mike ever fix the ear wart from that shit?
>inb4 Dr. Pig meme about immigration enforcement problems
Anonymous No.76805698 [Report] >>76805783
>>76802597
>he is famous because people love to hate him, not respect him, he is like the Piers Morgan of fitness
What have you accomplished? Post body. Oh wait, you won't.
Anonymous No.76805783 [Report] >>76805930
>>76805698
>What have you accomplished?
i'm 6'3"
Anonymous No.76805930 [Report] >>76805950
>>76805783
>taking credit for things you had nothing to do with
What a jewish thing to do
Anonymous No.76805950 [Report]
>>76805930
>things you had nothing to do with
what do you mean? it's my literal body i grew myself
Anonymous No.76805952 [Report] >>76805977
Hitler said chuddies should learn boxing and jiu-jitsu in Mein Kampf, instead of LARPing as soldiers.
Anonymous No.76805977 [Report] >>76805995
>>76805952
pretty sure they were using artillery and rifles in ww2, not jewjitsu
Anonymous No.76805995 [Report] >>76805998 >>76807071
>>76805977
His point was that you can be taught to use the exact equipment that you will be using in war in a few months if shit hits the fan so it is pointless to LARP, so just focus on staying fit and ready. He was a ww1 vet so he would know.
Anonymous No.76805998 [Report]
>>76805995
not everybody can be Hitler, we are not all great men
Anonymous No.76807071 [Report] >>76807218
>>76805995
yeah bullshit. training to military standards are ass. its made for literal retarded fat normies to be able to pass. the reason the gun training makes people seethe so much is that for a long time it was only high level military/feds/swat that got to practice shooting/small unit tactics/cqb. the better you are at these things the better you are off in general.
there are whole businesses revolved around training people to pass t1 selection now. it's not pointless to larp. If you only can use military assets to the standard you are fucked and are cannon fodder.
Anonymous No.76807218 [Report] >>76807235
>>76807071
Even during the war underage wehrmacht soldiers received enough training to become elite and directly promote to unteroffizier if they were lucky and chose to apply what they had learned. Contrary to Jewish propaganda there was no cannon fodder.
Anonymous No.76807235 [Report]
>>76807218
really? how'd that work out for the nazis? did they win?
also clearly there has been a few changes in warfare since WW1 & WW2
it's a psyop to not train, militias are healthy for the republic.
Anonymous No.76807398 [Report] >>76807412 >>76807467 >>76807477 >>76807768 >>76810149
>>76799501 (OP)

Grappling is the oldest and most evolved form of fighting you can learn without a weapon. Every culture with any sort of martial history on Earth has a version of competitive wrestling for a reason. The Japanese developed jujutsu (unarmed grappling) because even with their spears, armor, and swords, they understood the importance of being able to kill someone when you're disarmed or too close to use a weapon, and also how deeply primal grappling is and the fact it can teach gameness.

The reason BJJ has succeeded where most other arts fail is complicated; it's not the absolute best combat sport (boxing or Judo are better), but it is the best for most people who can't fight. You cannot take someone who is a zero and make them a hero by putting them in kung fu or aikido or any traditional Ninja bs. Only a competitive combat sport can do that and BJJ is the safest of these to practice into old age.

Take for example Judo. It's a young man's sport and kids die every year in Japan from brain and spinal injuries training Judo.

Boxing and MT might be better for taking someone tough and turning them into a knockout sniper, but at the cost of probable permanent damage to your brain - the most important organ you have, which houses your entire intellect and personality. You have a much lower chance of developing CTE when your main focus is groundfighting.

Wrestlers will smoke pure BJJ guys **if the wrestlers learn submissions** but that's a big if. I have choked out the local wrestling coach as a shitty blue belt because he didn't know what a triangle was. And he was bigger and stronger than me. Submissions are that powerful.

BJJ is the sweet spot that offers a low bar of entry, longevity of practice, teaches gameness even to small or weak people who otherwise cannot fight at all.

Knowing what to do trumps everything else in a fight. Period. BJJ is not the only path to this knowledge but it's by far the most accessible and open source.
Anonymous No.76807412 [Report]
>>76807398
>This is what homosexuals actually believe
Anonymous No.76807422 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
bjj is cool and all but this highlight video makes it look gay as shit
Anonymous No.76807467 [Report]
>>76807398
Very high IQ post
Anonymous No.76807477 [Report]
>>76807398
This is a very elaborate way of saying you love sniffing balls
Anonymous No.76807768 [Report] >>76807843
>>76807398
>Take for example Judo. It's a young man's sport and kids die every year in Japan from brain and spinal injuries training Judo.
Source?
Anonymous No.76807843 [Report]
>>76807768
kengan ashura
Anonymous No.76807920 [Report] >>76807967
>>76799666
its been around for all these years and theres still only like 15 videos of it in existence being used outside of sport. and half of them were drunk or homeless guys.
Anonymous No.76807967 [Report]
>>76807920
Just like there's like 4 videos of trained boxers knocking someone out
Anonymous No.76808351 [Report] >>76808353 >>76810123
bjj is obviously the best for self defense
Anonymous No.76808353 [Report] >>76808806
>>76808351
also if you use boxing/muay thai in real life, you’re going to jail lol
Anonymous No.76808359 [Report] >>76810027
>>76805653
So I'm not the only one who reads it as blow job job.
Anonymous No.76808806 [Report] >>76809180
>>76808353
Muay thai teaches kicks, retardbro. A few hard leg and body kicks would deter anyone from continuing to fight without killing them.
Anonymous No.76809180 [Report] >>76809529 >>76810019
>>76808806
You’re not kicking in a street fight bruce lee lmfao
Anonymous No.76809529 [Report]
>>76809180
>only bruce lee can lift his foot enough to leg kick
t. fatass
Anonymous No.76810019 [Report] >>76810261 >>76810525 >>76812860
>>76809180
nta but a low leg/calf kick looks like it could fuck you up instantly specially if you have no fighting experience.
Anonymous No.76810027 [Report]
>>76808359
brazillion hue hits you
Anonymous No.76810123 [Report] >>76810236
>>76808351
bjj as self defense only works if in you're on a soft comfortable bed and trying to defend yourself from a rape.
Anonymous No.76810132 [Report] >>76810518
>>76803115
he has a kyokushinkai background that's a karate gi
Anonymous No.76810149 [Report]
>>76807398
Straight wrestling absolutely fucking sucks outside of specific wrestle rules wrestling comps. The moment anyone is allowed to do anything else wrestlers get shitted on. Wrestling is a sport, not a martial art. Period
Anonymous No.76810236 [Report]
>>76810123
Dr. Mike developed an even more effective strategy; lookin way too uggo for even the lowest-standards rapists.
Anonymous No.76810261 [Report] >>76810536
>>76810019
It unironically only works if the other person does have fighting experience. Kicks like that have to be perfectly spaced or they don’t work. Only another trained fighter will be at the perfect distance for it to land. An untrained person is just going to bumrush you and it will literally never work. Bjj basically works against anyone, every time.
Anonymous No.76810518 [Report] >>76810532 >>76812866
>>76810132
How's kyokushinkai for the streets? on paper knee strikes, clinchs, front kicks and pain resilience makes it seem like one of the better choices. But I rarely see it on self-defense convos
Anonymous No.76810525 [Report] >>76810536
>>76810019
Kicks are notoriously unreliable on street fights, you can trip, lose balance and anyone can tank a couple leg hits and close distance and grab you, drunks specially. There's plenty of videos on the internet of guys effectively using it on a real world scenario, but those are the exception to the rule.
Anonymous No.76810532 [Report]
>>76810518
I used to train kickboxing with Kyokushin guys, tough motherfuckers, built like tree trunks, but since they disallow punches to the face it really messes with their perception during a fight.
Anonymous No.76810536 [Report] >>76811379
>>76810261
You know you can back away and counter with leg kicks right? Muay thai practice isn’t just pads
>>76810525
And what’s he gonna do if he grabs you? With a thai clinch you can sweep and floor them, knee them elbow them in the face. What are they even gonna do without any training?
the original racist mexican No.76811372 [Report] >>76812871
>>76799501 (OP)

Depends on how you train and what you train. If you are reddit like this faggot Mikey musumeci and somehow managed to have enough talent to go for an exquisite berimbolo leg lock by only rolling with Asians you will get your head stomped in a real fight and it shows.

BJJ is better than no grappling and Judo. you grab a single leg you learn how to take faggots down. you hit with no mercy hard, like Tyson, bullying on the floor. Even that is shit advice.

you do not learn kickboxing by a TKD black belt. you learn BOXING to limit hands only and make black and Mexican friends at a ghetto gym. Or if you're not a retard, real Muay Thai by a Thai person.

BJJ is the karate when you wanted Kung Fu of our generation, ruined by Am*ricans.

you humbly start on bottom every time, with the goal of getting the fuck up to strike on your feet on record time every time. until you are invincible on the ground. protip: you're not and you never will be. in fact you're missing the mountains that are takedown defense, taking the other guy down etcetera etcetera if you're a lazy slacker and it shows.

I want to roll with this little zoomer shit and break both his knees for being such a fucking faggot. Palhares style.

remember when Tyson said: "hit the fucking bag!" ? you have to get good at the basics and right techniques in case your master is a retarded faggot. it takes not being a retard to know what moves to drill like wrestling moves, but I guess you'll have to figure it out for the ghost of kimura to call you a faggot when you get knocked the fuck out.

can't go wrong with an armbar
the original racist mexican No.76811379 [Report] >>76811914 >>76812882 >>76814005
>>76810536

muh Thai clinch is just a cheap parlor trick and a meme. if you're tall and into hitting defenseless people with knees sure. if the other person can wrestle you're fucked.

learn to box and throw hands pussy.

imagine giving a nigger that weighs over 100 pounds a single leg. Pro fighters fight like cowards and lose, you ain't shit.
Anonymous No.76811466 [Report] >>76811917
So basically if I was to put my child in martial arts, it would be judo at 6 years old then boxing or Muay Thai from 12 onwards?
Goals are self defence, avoid CTE from a young age, and to respect damage that can be done to a body - so hopefully humility , confidence and not being a hot-head that gets into shitty situations when he is older.
Anonymous No.76811914 [Report] >>76812882 >>76814005
>>76811379
Dogshit bait but I’ll bite. How likely is it to get attacked in the streets by a martial artist? Very unlikely, most guys I know can’t be fucked with anything and live in the gym. So you don’t need to know wrestling against some drunk retard, thai clinch, leg kicks and elbows are better than nigger box.
Anonymous No.76811917 [Report]
>>76811466
Avoiding CTE is easy, just don’t let him hard spar (which I don’t think under 16s are allowed to anyway)
Anonymous No.76811948 [Report]
>>76800460
you're not allowed to stomp heads or groins in most rings
the few rings you can people who flop to the floor get jumped on
Striking is king in street fights and boxing is the simplest and most direct path from neutral to knockout with as little movement possible
Anonymous No.76812178 [Report] >>76812186
Bjj is a meme but why the fuck are people here saying jewdo isn’t? I’ve done it all, wrassling, jewjitsu, and jewdo (as well as boxing and Dutch kickboxing) and both bjj and judo are less effective for a “””real””” fight than wrestling. OG judo with leg grabs, sure, reasonably useful. But modern jewdo - are you really going to try any of the “turn” throws in a fight, esp nogi and sweating? Wrestling and boxing (or any striking sport) is better for self-defense because it teaches you to stay in front and on top of threat at all times. It’s only if you have the latter mentality in mind that bjj and judo becomes useful - bjj to to manage being in a “bad” position (with submissions if they are retarded but usually sweeps since it’s easy on untrained people) and judo to get on top using trips/reaps to supplement basic wrestling. Wrestling always works desu bc very few people can sprawl hard/fast enough to stop you. Anyways the best self-defense is getting a high paying job and living in a wealthy area where the local police department needlessly harasses poors.
Anonymous No.76812186 [Report] >>76812232
>>76812178
>stay in front and on top of threat at all times
That's great in theory but in a street fight you can easily end up in situations where that is untenable. You're not always just squaring off against one or two dipshits who go down quickly, sometimes a bunch of cunts jump you.
Anonymous No.76812204 [Report]
>get to the ground
>attempt jewjitsu bs to get a sub
>get stomped in the head by one of the dude’s friends
Ggs
Anonymous No.76812232 [Report]
>>76812186
Sure, but at that point, no martial art is going to save your ass other than gun-fu.
Like I said, just live in a rich area and you never have to think about these situations, I haven’t seen a pack of urban youths in years and I’m glad my income can afford me that (and expensive MMA gyms haha). The only time I’ve fought someone outside of the gym was during soccer which was 1 on 1 and completely one sided (fucker hard fouled me, ref didn’t call it, so I ran up to him and beat the shit out of him, getting me perma-banned from the local rec league kek).
Anonymous No.76812860 [Report]
>>76810019
calf kicks don't hurt as much as you think. calf kicks either have to land perfectly on a nerve or be repeatedly done. street fights last 30 seconds
Anonymous No.76812866 [Report]
>>76810518
in a 1on1 fight, high level karate used by someone who has sparred/competed before will fuck up untrained individuals. the karate stance is goated at maintaining distance and allowing for effective striking. it's why it gets used in the ufc.
Anonymous No.76812871 [Report]
>>76811372
>reddit spacing
>namefag
>thinks Americans ruined bjj not perfected it
go back
Anonymous No.76812882 [Report]
>>76811379
>>76811914
MT clinch is OP on people who have no idea what it is. it's also good on wrestlers.
>RDR v Nickel
controlling someone's neck and the natural reaction being for them to lower themselves makes clinch OP. wrestlers also can be baited to go for underhook, a dominant position in wrestling but a vulnerable position in clinching. clinching might be one of the most effective techniques for self defense. I used it as a bouncer alot to avoid hurting drunk morons, but allowing my self to get them out the club easily. also if you don't understand pain until someone has kneed your liver or elbowed your face in the clinch.
Anonymous No.76813034 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
It works in the sheets but not in the streets
Anonymous No.76813035 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
Yes, and no. No martial art works on the streets where you could get stabbed or shot
Anonymous No.76813038 [Report]
>>76803115
>bjj
>brazilian jiu jitus
>japanese flag headband
yeah, his gi is reference to his karate background
Anonymous No.76813048 [Report] >>76813217 >>76813266 >>76813977
>>76800812
>joe rogan also does taekwondo, muay thai and kickboxing
He talks about his martial skill with the same confidence he talks about his comedy skill. Please forgive me if I stay somewhat skeptical.
Anonymous No.76813217 [Report]
>>76813048
His martial arts skills are only a little better than his supplement skills, which *barely* edge out his hair skills.
Anonymous No.76813266 [Report] >>76813751 >>76814011
>>76813048
black belt from legit bjj gyms. black belt in tkd, state and national champ, competed when it was more of a legit martial art. fought in the amateur circuit for kick boxing before retiring and shifting to bjj. involved in the ufc since its inception, historically provided good analysis even if his analysis has dropped off
>talks about his martial skill with the same confidence he talks about his comedy skill
i agree he is delusional about his comedy skill, but the dude is a legit martial artist, he also could kill ronda rousey in a fight
Anonymous No.76813751 [Report] >>76813796
>>76813266
Ok, anon, you convinced me (and I'm not joking), I'll keep my shittalking in check.
I still think Mike Israetel is a joke, though, regardless of his area of expertise.
Anonymous No.76813796 [Report]
>>76813751
>I still think Mike Israetel is a joke, though, regardless of his area of expertise.
for sure. this seems to be another example of someone just getting a black belt for showing up for years at a bjj gym. i don't value belts unless they come from a notable gym or if the person competes.
Anonymous No.76813927 [Report]
>>76799501 (OP)
One on one it works extremely well, but wrestling with some striking is the only defense against the group of black teens
Anonymous No.76813977 [Report]
>>76813048
Whoever told Joe he had potential as a comedian is the biggest dick alive.
Anonymous No.76814005 [Report] >>76814020
>>76811379
>>76811914
hey guys idk anything about fighting and just dropped in this thread, but I remember a brazilian told on reddit (posting in english) about the time he tried to clinch in a street fight and got stabbed in the back (I think), he ended up needing surgery and lost one of his lungs
In a street fight I think boxing is your best bet, you should never try to hug a stranger in a fight
I'm gonna try to find the reddit thread again
Anonymous No.76814011 [Report] >>76814096
>>76813266
Steven Seagal and Bruce Lee also had a bunch of awards and belts and everyone knows they were hacks.
Anonymous No.76814020 [Report]
>>76814005
many such cases
I met a judoka who lost fingers trying to fight a nigger who was robbing him
Anonymous No.76814089 [Report] >>76814097
>people acting like they get to decide if a fight goes to the ground or not
it always does and you should know how to grapple when it does or you're just coinflipping with your life basically
Anonymous No.76814096 [Report]
>>76814011
Neither of them competed. Seagal went out of his way to not compete, even when offered against JCVD, who was a legit martial artist. Bruce Lee competed a singular time in boxing, lost and stuck with technique competitions and Hollywood afterwards.
Rogan competed in legit state and national TKD tournaments, there is footage of it. He was national champ in TKD at like 18 and knocked people out in TKD. Holds two black belts one from a notable gi BJJ gym and another form a notable no gi gym. He also competed in a legit kick boxing regional scene, and admitted that he wasn't good enough to go further than that in kick boxing.
You are retarded. There is a big difference in Rogan and the two you mentioned.
Anonymous No.76814097 [Report]
>>76814089
having seen hundreds of street fighting webms, only women's fights go to the ground, men's end in KO