Thread 76803119

From then on, what can i do to support her fitness wise ?

>>76803119 (OP)
damn, it's gon' get ugly and hard as fuck.
Wish you and your mom the best.

Look into nicotine treatment. Dead ass serious.

I'm sorry frère. My mom had it too (she was born in 1954 as well), she died in june. It's hard as fuck, sometimes I thought about necking myself because the pain of seeing your mom slowing dissolving is horrible. You must be strong for her and the rest of your family.

>>76803160
It's a neuroprotector right ? I dont know if the damage can be undone

>>76803191
Unsure. All I know is its cheap, easy to obtain and can't hurt to try.

Take her dancing, also dead ass serious.

>>76803119 (OP)
Ketogenic diet and or coconut oil. Get her to keep active both physically and mentally

>>76803119 (OP)
i read alot about CREATINE helping the elderly recently.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21394604/

>>76803205
This. Don't forget period appropriate music. Go to church, learn to come to terms with things. She, and everyone else were set to die the second they were concieved, you get to help her off the hamster wheel now.

Best of luck.

The majority of cases of Alzheimer's are caused by statins. These are a cholesterol-lowering medication that deprives your body of necessary fat and cholesterol to maintain your brain, nerves and skin.
The medical profession prescribes these pills to basically anyone that's old and they gaslight people into believing that the dementia is caused by old age and not these pills.
They also make old people go blind and develop cataracts, which of course they also blame on old age.

The brain is a fatty organ. It's about 70% saturated fat. Any person that's developing dementia should immediately stop taking statins and start consuming as much raw saturated animal fat as possible.

Raw eggs, raw milk, raw cream, and suet are the best. Lard or tallow are a second best because they're cooked but still work.
Any old person that is developing any form of dementia or blindness due to statins will gradually recover, though not completely if it's very advanced, by dropping these harmless pills and consuming animal fat.

This is the redpill on all these "mysterious" forms of dementia and the cure for Alzheimer's, given that the damage is not irreversible.

There are other ways to develop the brain and keep it sharp like exercise and intellectual activity like writing or reading, but none of these will do much if you're literally starving your brain of the nutrients it needs.

>>76803119 (OP)
nicotine, amphetamines, DMSO, hyperbaric oxygen, fish and red meat, cardio

and if it gets bad, get ready to mercy kill. if you've never been engaged in combat or have hunted, you better start now.

sorry you are going through this. life is hell.

>>76803590
oh and creatine and other fatty oils. reduce her carb intake to bare minimum necessary for cardio.

isnt all this shit u guys are recommending OP to do all cope?

alzeheimers in her 60's is purely genetics

>>76803620
>try to help
versus
>do nothing

fuck you

Turmeric and diet to battle the type 3 diabetes that possibly is the cause.
Mad amounts of fish oil.
Physical exercise.
Adress oral health if an issue, proven to be a cause not effect of dementia
DIHEXA, greatest neurogenerative compound of all time, orders of magnitude better than BDNF. It's a research chemical, but your mom has got nothing to lose and everything to gain so roll those dice

>>76803620
>purely genetics

Binge watch some Rhonda Patrick. 60% of the all-cause mortality stuff lines up with alzheimers which she will mention.. often. Too late for that VO2 max shit for OP, but tons of things you can do, but already do because you are on a /fit/ board and aren't some neckbeard... right?

>>76803119 (OP)
>alzheimers
Genuinely consider euthanasia. My grandmother had that and it was tragic. She'd have brief moments of lucidity where she'd talk about how she didn't want to live like this

>mom has a debilitating brain disease
>better ask my hentai board
>and post this 5 year old image with her name on it
what mental illness causes people to make this type of spam?

>>76803119 (OP)
isn't alzheimers caused by lacking cholesterol in diet?

>>76803119 (OP)

1st thing you need to do is make sure she has a DNR & DNI POLSTs:

>Do-Not-Resuscitate.
>Do-Not-Intubate.
>Physicians-Orders-for-Life-Sustaining-Treatment.
POLSTs are Medical Advance-Directives (legal documents that state what a living competent person wants when they are incapacitated, incompetent, or dead) that are signed by a MD who agrees.

Yes, you can make it so in the DNR & DNI that she at least is given Pain-Relief Medication to make her natural death as painless as possible.

I'm sorry but Dementia (4/5x Alzheimer's) is a slow painful death-sentence. IMO, it's worse than Cancer cause at least Cancer doesn't take away someone's spirit every single time - Dementia does.

What's gonna happen is that her brain is going to continuously deteriorate and increasingly her level of dependent-care will increase to the point you'll eventually need 24/7 Professional Caregiving by an HCP. Before that, there'll be this period where you'll insist you can care for her but you won't be able to. She might accidentally hurt herself often to the point that it'll be reasonable to argue you're committing Elder/Patient Abuse simply by Severe Neglect. The level of stress and difficulty from dealing with your mom will give you Caregiver-Stress and you'll have these deep dark guilty thoughts of you hating her for being such a pain in the ass in being difficult to care for; God Forbid you snap a couple of times.

Dementia is Hell. Don't deny your Mother the chance at a Natural-Death when the moment presents itself. You're not being moral continuing to let her live as long as possible. The worst I ever saw a Severe Dementia Patient that a Grandson wouldn't let go was she had like ~15 Pressure-Ulcers all over her (Stage 4 at her Tail-Bone), weighted only ~78lbs, and she'd constantly reflexively try to "bite for food" but the moment anything was in her mouth she'd spit it out. The lights were on but clearly there was no one home.

(Continue)

>>76804040

You can extend her lucidity for like 1-2 months at the Early-Stage with Acetylcholine Enzyme Inhibiting Medications (her brain doesn't produce anymore Acetylcholine but you can delay the body breaking down the remaining floating ones). Other than that, I'm sorry.

Please let your Mom die when the chance happens; let her die at least as a part of what you knew her as and not as a soulless husk.

I'm sorry. Your mother is dead, OP. Let her go when the moment arrives. Please.

>>76803119 (OP)
Ketogenic diet.

>>76803160
>>76803191
>>76803198
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10326778/

Also high-dose vitamin B1/6/12 might help

>>76803897
Do you know any official medical cures for alzheimer? No, because modern medicine doesn't want you to be healthy

>>76803119 (OP)
I'm very sorry anon
I recommend spending less time posting on /fit/ and more time with her, talking with her and keeping her active in both mind and body

>>76803323
i was about to say that
it cost nothing to give her a daily dose of creatine
it only has benefits
worth a try

>>76803119 (OP)

I' very sorry to hear that. I hope she got it at late age because Early Onset Alzheimer generally progresses faster.

If you are her primary caregiver, you are now burdened with an extremely stressful and thankless job that must to be done regardless whether you want it or not - remember that while she will likely lose her ability to recognize or express appreciation for the work you do to keep her happy, your efforts will not go to waste because you are making sure that her remaining years before severe cognitive decline will be worth living. It can be difficult to cherish these days because everything only keeps getting worse and it might feel like nothing you do makes any difference, but remember that all your efforts will be worth it.

Few things from personal experience that will hopefully be of practical use to you:

Early to mid stages

>if you have a bucket list, such as visiting places or doing some activities, you should try to clear it as early as possible. as long as your financial reserves allow it, eat well and spend money on things that you usually would shy away from
>if you have friends, coworkers and relatives that have become distant but would like to meet again, tell them of your mom's condition and arrange to meet with them
>your mom will lose her interest and ability to do things she used to enjoy, and she might turn to easy and low physical effort activities like watching TV, and eventually she'll lose her ability to navigate outside your house even in places familiar to her - it'll be up to you to keep attending physical activities, like running or long walks, and you should try to do them as often and long as you can because eventually her physical decline will prevent these
>try to obtain her consent and take control of her phone, emails, and bank accounts so you can prevent her from falling victim to scams - this is mainly a problem during the early stage when her cognitive decline isn't severe enough

cont.

>>76806896

>mentally she will have good days and bad days - finding the right medicine that will calm her down during a panic attack without turning her into a zombie or impairing her sleep cycle will be trial-and-effort and you should actively consult your doctor if you feel like the current drug isn't working as well as you'd like or has undesirable side effects
>your mom will likely become embarrassed and depressed over her fate and avoid asking for help - pay close attention to her needs and remember that even if she verbally declines something you suggest she might 5 minutes later appreciate it and you'll learn over time on how to approach her without offending her
>alzheimer's patient's ability to feel and or express pain becomes impaired so if they fall they might not ask for help despite needing it - you'll have to closely observe her physical state and remember that it's better to be safe than sorry, even if your mom got upset from you calling an ambulance for something that she didn't feel like was a big deal or incovenienced her
>over time you mom will no longer understand or appreciate the amount of effort you are putting into trying to keep her happy, remember that any verbal snides or insults you might get from her are due to her cognitive decline rather than her hating you
>install movement detecting night lights or keep some lights on to help her navigate home during nights

cont.

>>76806900

Late stage

>your entire life will revolve around providing care for your relative and it'll be extremely tasking due to lack of sleep, stress (particularly over her physical decline and potential sudden accidents as well as financial responsibilities that will involve dealing with government and banks, paying taxes and selling property), lack of optimism, and negative effects on your career and earnings. your daily life will become very bleak
>care home is a place of no-return and no one really wants to put their parent in one even if living at home becomes so risky that it borders elderly abuse. however, your relative moving to one will be a moment of relief for you because a significant amount of burden is taken away from your shoulders - you will feel guilty about this even if it has become the only realistic option (unless you have the funds to pay for a 24/7 professional)
>there are significant differences between care homes, both private and public, and you should scout WELL AHEAD for the (seemingly) best option - your government might also have state run care homes to which people (the ones with the most difficult conditions) are exclusively selected to enter, and if this option exists you should be aware of it
>CARE HOME PATIENTS WHO ARE VISITED OFTEN BY THEIR RELATIVES ARE GIVEN THE BEST CARE
>even after her death, a significant amount of work will remain in handling inheritance and funeral and other tasks

cont.

>>76806910

Here is an example of how round-the-clock caregiving can potentially tax you while you both still live at home.

>your relative is still capable of moving independently around the house but her sense of balance has become impaired and every time she moves somewhere there is a risk of falling that varies by individual - a bad fall will mean broken hip or skull is a game over when combined with her cognitive decline and various other conditions she potentially has.
>whenever she goes for toilet at night, which can easily be multiple times a night considering that her day-night cycle likely becomes impaired and inconsistent, you'll have to be half-awake and aware of what she's doing so you can watch over her or listen for sounds and other signs of falling
>you'll become conditioned to being half-awake in your sleep so you immediately spring up from detecting sounds like doors opening so that you can watch over her
>it'll take several minutes for her to finish her business and after that she'll walk back, during which again there is a risk of tripping and falling and hurting herself
>it's also possible that her bladder control has weakened so she might piss on the floor, which again you'll need detect by sound or watching over her, and if that happens you'll have to wash her body (legs), change her clothes (pants and underwear), wash the floor (and carpet) and later wash her soiled clothes
>THIS, AND MANY OTHER TASKS, CAN HAPPEN MULTIPLE TIMES DURING A SINGLE DAY, AT ANY GIVEN MOMENT, AND WILL ALWAYS REQUIRE YOUR IMMEDIATE ATTENTION.
>you'll slept hours might fall from continuous 8h to 5h with multiple breaks inbetween, which eventually will mean that providing round-the-clock care has become impossible and that during your awake hours your ability to deal with complex legal and financial responsibilities has become limited from stress and sleep deficiency

cont.

>>76806928

I also forgot to mention in my late stage post that you should prepare a large selection of cheap, easy to wash, baggy (easy to wear) clothes (particularly underwear, socks and pants) once bladder control begins to weaken.

The best case scenario for an Alzheimer's patient would be a Late Onset Alzheimer at old age that continues for many years with slow decline and a natural death from causes unrelated to Alzheimer, but that's something you or anyone else can't influence unfortunately. I know because my dad had EOA in his 60s immediately after retirement (or rather, he was diagnosed at that time) and he progressed well into stage 7 in roughly 3 years. It was extremely stressful for me and my mom as we provided care for him, but it was all worth it. Fingers crossed that a cure to Alzheimer will be found in the coming decades, maybe that's something that AI will be useful for.

I hope my posts contained something that will prove useful to you and your mom.

>>76803160
>>76803191
>>76803198
don't listen to the quoted retards
>>76803360
diet must be caloric and protein rich, alzheimer is due to low or damaged myelin

>>76803590
>>76803847
>>76803880
>>76804040
>>76804050


fuck off useless retards

>>76803119 (OP)
Try to get her to carb cycle/IF
The brain needs time to remove waste to function properly

>>76803119 (OP)
Dual orexin receptor antagonists as sleep aids can halt and potentially reverse alzheimers by enhancing the brain's ability to flush away extracellular waste and amyloid plaques. Aside from that cardio and sufficient protein intake are incredibly important for the elderly so that they can avoid becoming to weak to move around easily. Once they lose the ability to move freely they don't have too many years left. But seriously get her doctor to prescribe Lemborexant as a sleep aid and take walks with her every day. It truly will halt progression of the disease and over time even reverse it. The results on humans for this intervention are truly groundbreaking and the drug is already approved as a sleep aid.

Methylene Blue

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10631450/

>>76803323
Creatine seems to be something of a miracle supplement

>>76803119 (OP)
Nothing. It's going to be really shitty though and I'm sorry

>>76803119 (OP)
Some of the FDA goypills are getting marginally effective, but expect some improvements in that soon. Here's some info on bioactive teas that are safe enough I drink em for prophylaxis...
>A Systematic Review on the Effectiveness of Trigonelline, Safranal and Chamomile in Cure and Prevention of Alzheimer’s Disease and Dementia
>https://link.springer.com/article/10.1134/S1819712424700028
>Chamomile was seen to inhibit the activity of key enzymes associated with Alzheimer’s disease
>Panax ginseng as an adjuvant treatment for Alzheimer's disease
>https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1226845317303524
>Ginsenosides and gintonin attenuate AD-related neuropathology through multiple routes. This review focuses research demonstrating that ginseng constituents could be a candidate as an adjuvant for AD treatment.

>>76808287
Why would you support FDA pills

>>76803119 (OP)
I am sorry about it anon

>>76808302
>Lecanemab Preserves Memory Over 4 Years in Early Alzheimer’s
>https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/lecanemab-preserves-memory-over-4-years-early-alzheimers-2025a1000ktw
They're not all *entirely* shit-tier, and in fact getting progressively less shit-tier year by year. That being said I ain't taking no damn Lecanemab without a Sleepy Joe syndrome diagnosis, unlike some chamomile and ginseng teas.

>>76804040
>>76804050
only smart person in this thread

>>76803119 (OP)
Im sorry anon. Be strong. Help her get DNR / DNI while she's still got her marbles.

>>76803119 (OP)
I heard aluminum worsens Alzheimer's, I don't know if it still holds. Also, 'deuil en blanc'. It's saying goodbye to the person you knew because even if her body still lives, the person you knew will never be the same again and you'll have to deal with what's left of her. Applies to many conditions, mental and physical impairments.

>>76803119 (OP)
Im not shitposting or being ironic. I hope everything goes well enough, OP. Remember to take care of yourself too.
>t. Grandma had it, shit was tough

>>76809659
>I heard aluminum worsens Alzheimer's
The year 2000 called, they want their health meme back. Cycling vanadium is a somewhat more promising recent metal meme.

>>76803635
Huh