>>76807669
This is actually what people who are new to lifting believe. I'm in my 40s, lifted for 25 years both natty and enhanced.
-natties hit harsh diminishing returns after 3 years tops, usually less. When I read people posting stuff like 5 years this 10 years that, I know that they are full of shit and are new.
New lifters tend to believe in unrealistic expectations because they're following liars on youtube, and almost all quit within a year or two due to being demoralised by being so far off these people. It's these new lifters who come here and emotionally defend how some youtube faggot's physique is "achievable" invariably after 5-10 years, because that's what their idols tell them to think.
You're right, Jeff isn't that impressive, he's a very short guy. But natties and the vast majority of low-dose steroid users aren't impressive either. I mean Hamza has been roiding for a long time and you think anyone who touches a dbol tab is going to look like Larry Wheels, just shut the fuck up please posters like you drag this place down.