Thread 76804757

Why are Pacific Islanders (Samoans, Tongans, etc) so huge? Not only are they tall, they are big too (fat or muscular, rare to see an in between). Even the women are big, what are they feeding these guys?

>>76804757 (OP)
Voyage onto the islands gave them obesogenic genes. They gain weight easier than any other ethnicity.

Check out Physical Asia, Polynesian BVLL is raping all the gooks.

>>76804757 (OP)
Same reason apes, gorillas and black people are ripped

>>76804757 (OP)
one of the only actual times the correct answer is genetics.
They are also among the stupidest people in the world

>>76805285
all the niggers I see are stick niggers if under the age of 25 or so, or fat misshapen creatures if older.

>>76804757 (OP)
Most of them are from tribes that were aggressive and wiped out colonized other tribes. They were evolution in action until they met a more formidable colonizer.

>>76805286
>They are also among the stupidest people in the world
No... ironically their IQ is actually higher than Middle-Easterners. Higher average IQ than the nations these people hailed from:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nima_Arkani-Hamed (theoretical physics) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryam_Mirzakhani (only woman to win the Fields medal) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Atiyah https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lotfi_A._Zadeh https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taher_Elgamal (cryptography; applied math)

Pretty close to Asians and Whites.
Maori were the only ones who did favorably against White conquerors, because they developed "pā", a primitive form of trench warfare that allowed them to set up favorable treaties.

South Africans - dominated by whites, donated to Africans
China - dominated by whites
Canada - dominated and outbred by whites
North America - genocided by whites
South America - enslaved by whites, then they stopped giving a fuck and let them rule themselves

New Zealand - Treaty of Waitangi, Maori actually have privileges over the British, they are the only nation that isn't enslaved or turned into second-class citizens by whites.

The issue isn't their intelligence.
They just have very relaxed, lazy demeanors.

>>76805286
So stupid they built ocean voyagers and navigated the world's largest ocean?
>>76804757 (OP)
Genetics. As to why they were so big and tall, I'm not sure.
>>76805438
This is actually a very good point, they were highly organised and well structured for war. They were also harder to reach as being so remote.

>>76804757 (OP)
They are physically superior. They even have thicker bone density than the average man. Never fight a samoan

>>76805523
I remember an autistic post on this site talking about them having insane bone density, the babies being bigger than other races, and them having an extremely rare mutation for leg strength.

I am surprised that they don't have more strongmen.

>>76805438
This. They are litterally pic rel in everything. They just chill out a lot, but when push comes to shove, they can handle themselves pretty well.
There's a reason you dont see a lot of pacific islander slaves or servants being shipped on other colonies, despite them being physically fit and can better survive the voyage.

>>76804757 (OP)
>what are they feeding these guys?
spam, poi, poke

>>76805438
>only nation that isn't enslaved or turned into second-class citizens by whites
What about Ethiopia?

>>76805293
the ones that play college football and nfl football are pretty big

>>76804757 (OP)
It's more about what they are not eating, than what they are eating, i think.

>>76805621
A lot of them go into football and rugby

>>76805285
Black people don't have a predisposition to being ripped, at least not in a way that's out of the ordinary compared to other races. But they do have higher bone density on average, and they tend to have genes that allow them to exercise at a higher heart rate, and a father clearance of lactic acid than comparable caucasian athletes. Muscles are more apparent on darker skin. Other traits also vary based on different Africans across the continent, they are the most diverse race. There are more variations genetically between tribes than there are genetic variations between countries in Europe.

>>76806254
>Muscles are more apparent on darker skin
This is the big thing. It's the same reason bodybuilders oil up and fake tan before competitions

> play football in highschool
> my sophomore year we get a somoan freshman named Tate
> not even that big, smaller dude but had some muscle despite never touching a weight before
> coach is showing the freshman lifts, gets their 1 rm day 1 (bad practice imo) so we can see how much they improve
> most kids do 75lbs for example
> Tates turn
> they keep adding weight
> gets to 185 lbs which I was at and proud of
> keeps adding weight
> appears effortless for him
> keeps adding weight
> starts jumping up plates, everyone gathers around him cheering every rep

I shit you not he hit 425 lbs that day. His first day in the gym. A 13 year old who weighed perhaps 160 lbs. It wasn't a school record, but he got a plaque in our trophy case. His strength seemed otherworldly. Genuinely instilled in me a liftling fear of Somoans I still have nearly 20 years later.

so you're telling me I need to get a samoan wife to have a stronger and smarter hybrid breed of children

brb getting a ticket to new zealand

Fish is the key to strength
>Scandinavians
>Samoans
>Slavics

>>76806209
great i want to breed samoans now

>>76806431
>slavic
Their women took too much mongol cum in their cunts, that's why they are strong

>>76806355
>I shit you not he hit 425 lbs that day. His first day in the gym. A 13 year old who weighed perhaps 160 lbs
No he didn't. I assume you mean bench because that makes the most sense here. That would put him in the top 15 nationally in powerlifting at that weight class. That's full of grown men lifting for 15-20 years and who are juicing. A 13 year old kid did not lift that same weight. Seriously, go check yourself if you don't believe me.
https://usapl.liftingdatabase.com/rankings

What happened was he was strong, kept adding weight, and more and more kids started spotting him and not realizing how much they helped. I had an oddly similar experience after my freshman football season. Same situation, big kid for a freshman, quadroon. I don't remember the exact progression since that was17 years ago but he did 185, then 225, then went up from there. We went from having 1 normal spotter to 1 on each end of the bar at the side. They'd help without realizing how much. He got up to 4 plates benching with 5 guys spotting. Then over the next 4 years he could never bench that much again despite us all working out all the fucking time for football and having a good strength program. So either he somehow got significantly weaker despite lifting for years, growing in height and weight, and finishing puberty. Or the spotters all helped a lot.

I'd bet anything it's the exact same situation you experienced. If not, what were his lifts as a senior? Again, I'd bet anything he didn't beat that first day.

>>76804757 (OP)
Eat fish, row a canoe, eat people smaller than you

>>76806892
Is cannibalism the secret to better gains?

>>76806845
You're wrong, he Squatted it. 4 pl8 + 10s. It's literally on the plaque.

You may not like or understand this but a MAJORITY of the very strong people out there don't give a shit about power lifting. Power lifting records are only set by people who care about power lifting, which is to say 0.001% of the human population. They're meaningless. I've seen a 67 year old man at a commercial gym DL 715 lbs, which would have made him the strongest 65+ man in history. He didn't give a shit, just liked to lift.

If it makes you feel better Tate never got over 545 lbs, he was the only one on our team that didn't have to lift. He was also like 5'6". If he trained I guarantee he could do 770+ before he was 18. He pretty much wasted his potential completely. Makes you and I sick but a majority of the humans with the potential to be the strongest ever will not be simply because they don't care.

>>76805507
>navigated the world's largest ocean
>sail in a straight line
>don't turn

>>76806992
>Squatted it. 4 pl8 + 10s. It's literally on the plaque.
Cool, don't care about the plaque. Doesn't mean he hit depth or wasn't helped by spotters.

In the 2025 75kg class (closest to your 160 guess and favorable in this comparison) for 16-17 year old, drug tested lifters, the best squat was 195kg (430lbs). There's no fucking way some random, untrained kid is walking in at 13 and matching that. The 2nd place squat was 182.5kg (402lbs). You're saying he beat the 2nd place by 20lbs despite never lifting before? Bullshit.

I'm not calling you a liar. I believe he unracked that much weight and it was moved up and down. But he didn't do it all himself.
>majority of the humans with the potential to be the strongest ever will not be simply because they don't care.
Not really. There's a lot of wasted potential out there but the strongest have both the innate genetics AND the drive to work hard.

>>76807236
My man there's genetic freaks thay don't know their genetic freaks. 95% of the population of human beings on Earth will never touch a weight, every "genetic freak" you know that power lifts or does strongman is in that 5% of individuals that do. There are ACTUAL genetic freaks that would make the freaks we are aware of seem pathetic.

There's people out there that are so strong it's almost otherworldly and yet have no idea. There's easily 10,000+ individuals (very conservative estimate) that would be stronger than Thor with 2 years of hard work that the world will never know because they don't care or it doesn't occur to them to even try, the most theyll ever apply their strength is perhaps to move a couch 4-5x in their lifetime. You must accept this. The men with the greatest potential who've ever lived will forever be in obscurity because they're unaware of it. Genetic potential is almost ALWAYS wasted. If every human on earth trained hard I guarantee the strongest men alive would be instantly surpassed by HUNDREDS of people within a single year. The pool of people who try is so insanely small.

>>76807341
>You're saying he beat the 2nd place by 20lbs despite never lifting before?
Yes or no. Simple answer anon.
>here's easily 10,000+ individuals (very conservative estimate) that would be stronger than Thor with 2 years of hard work that the world will never know because they don't care or it doesn't occur to them to even try
And what on earth are you basing this on? This isn't even remotely plausible.

>>76806181
sad to see what happened to it...
they managed to successfully fight back te italians in ww2 and look what happened now

>>76806192
This is called a selection bias. The only people who can play college ball or nfl can only do so if they're predisposed to it.

Of course, they are a small minority of the black population. If you go to Africa it is the same, tons of dyel blacks who are tiny skinnyfags with shit frames. You'll see a small minority of guys who are jacked because they lift weights and have the genes to be big. No. I'm not talking about the lean dyels who normalfags think are jacked because normalfags are fat and out of shape in comparison.

>>76805523
>>76805621
>I am surprised that they don't have more strongmen.
If they were actually significantly bigger and stronger and with denser bones than other races then you would expect to see them dominating in strength competitions, martial arts, boxing, mma, etc. The fact that they don't tells you all you need to know about their supposed genetic superiority.

>>76807874
There isn't many of them in the first place. Also a lot of them are obese

>>76807904
Doesn't need to be a lot of them. If they're really that superior then all it takes is one guy putting in the same work as the lesser races to become the world's greatest powerlifter or boxer.

>>76807923
>>76807874
>The issue isn't their intelligence.
>They just have very relaxed, lazy demeanors
They dominate rugby.

They've had some of the most powerful fighters, known for EXTREME DURABILITY.
Mark Hunt, David Tua, both thought of as having some of the hardest punches, and definitely top 3 chins in their respective sports.
https://www.skysports.com/boxing/news/12183/13287607/oleksandr-usyk-heavyweight-champion-unsure-whats-next-as-jai-opetaia-welcomes-prospect-of-future-fight

The issue is combat sports require more than durability and pure power... Samoans are also stocky with shorter arms (big disadvantage), and they are KNOWN FOR MID, MEDIOCRE TECHNIQUE. None of them are known for being technical monsters (but the best blacks, whites, asians, and Mexicans have been technical maestros).

>>76806181
>>76807749
What the fuck the Italians kicked the shit out of them.
Mussolini demolished them and Ethiopia was colonized by Britain and France along its coasts. It’s only the Italians who wanted to take the highlands which they did.

>>76806254
Africans aren’t a race and they are diverse solely because of Pygmies and bushmen, two relict populations that arguably should be classified as a different species. We are closer to proto-Neanderthals genetically than we are to extant Khoi tribes.

>>76806192
Woah professional athletes who's job it is to be big are big? How did you develop this insane level of deductive skill anon? Teach us your ways

>>76807874
They do not scale well. They are hindered by weight class. They pack muscle and fat more easily and are more robust than all but certain subgroups of Europeans. Europeans can minmax muscle to weight ratio which is very good for fighting with shields, armor, on horseback, or carrying weaponry, Samoans pack on muscle and fat which is very good for long sea voyages and for fighting with nothing but leaves and sticks.

>>76806431
Explain Georgians.
these people live on grapes and wine yet they regularly outlift everyone in the Olympics and it’s not even close.

>>76805438
In uni our rugby team had an assistant coach that was Polynesian.
He had a PHD from Oxford and was also doing post-doc research at the same university.

>>76808147
To be clear I meant his research was at my university, not Oxford.

>>76807067
It's a triangle that has several island within them which they moved back and forth between. They literally had sail ships.

>>76804757 (OP)
if they are so big then why do we never see them in bodybuilding competitions?

>>76807874
They dominate rugby, have representatives in the wsm, Polynesian are nz and Australia's strongest man, they've had champion and well known fighters like Mark Hunt, David Tuah, Joseph Parker, Robert Whittikah and Max Holloway, just t name a few. They are in nearly EVERY national rugby team bar Georgia, Argentina, SA, and maybe Italy, but are otherwise represent in Wales, Britain, Ireland, USA, France, Japan, and ofc nz and Australia and many more.
This is all from a tiny population size (less than a million total). I think that's pretty good.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304572609_Polynesian_Bones

>>76808212
Iceland has some of the strogest and best athletes in the world, yet the average icelander is skinnyfat or obese

>>76808194
Their genetics predispose them to large muscles for function, not form. They aren't super lean. Explains why they do great in football

>>76808227
Iceland does fairly well in strongman , not much else.

>>76804757 (OP)
most of them are actually obese

>>76808119
it was under you "rule" for a couple of years Giovanni, chill
still mad you got yout ass kicked by a few bush warriors?

This thread is full of mythology for some reason we as man believe their is always some far away race of men who are taller, stronger more intelligent, enlightened. In fact when you are actually surrounded by them they’re pretty average, you can see photos of Pacific Islanders contacted by Europeans on camera an in painting and they just look like hunter gatherers more /fit/ than civilised man but not otherworldly, truly most of them are obese because they are low iq who don’t know how to discipline themselves.

>>76808960
the only time pacific islanders look good is when they play rugby (white man's game), other times they're just fat retards

>>76806895
see for yourself

>>76804757 (OP)
It’s genetic but the modern diet destroys them.

>>76808142
shit ton of eggs meat and dairy in the georgian diet dude

>>76808212
They dominate rugby because it’s only played in Australia and New Zealand. In the US rugby players are people who couldn’t cut it in football. It’s not because they’re better athletes.

>>76810081
So no. That’s not impressive.

>>76810085
The modern diet is destroying everyone

>>76808119
It was under Italian rule for a few years, then they btfo of the Italians. Just accept that you had tanks and chemical weapons on your side and you still lost

I think these cunts used to row to each other's islands then bash each other for fun. It's a blessing they are chill unless you are involved in organised crime.

Look up "run it straight". It is more brutal than the dignified sport of buffalo fighting.

The real redpill is half islander and half white. All the athletic and muscular potential, without the fat. So if you want athletic children, go start attending church and look for your Samoan.

>>76807236
>I'm not calling you a liar.
I am calling him a liar.

>>76806254
>But they do have higher bone density on average
Only compared to Americans, not compared to Euros. They are also skinnier than others because of, well, 3rd world.

>>76806355
Why do Americans ALWAYS lie about knowing or meeting superhumans? There's at least 1-2 in every such thread on every forum. It's super fucking weird. Are burgers pathological liars?

>>76807236
>I'm not calling you a liar.
I, otoh, am. he's a big fat and very bad liar.

>>76811518
American detected.

Seriously, these threads bring out the worst in Americans. It's just non-stop bad education and brazen lies.

>>76811697
>Are burgers pathological liars?
jews are pathological liars

>>76804757 (OP)
Cultural Cannibalism

>>76806992
You are retarded and making shit up

>>76805507
>As to why they were so big and tall, I'm not sure.
...Genetics? You answered your own question.

Lols. When push comes to shove and people actually measure, nonwhite superhuman stories always falter.

>muh poylnesian strength
All worldwide strongmen competitions are dominated by Icelandic men.
>muh Dinka niggers are the tallest in the world
They are shorter the the Dutch and Dinaric Alps