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Anonymous No.76809025 [Report] >>76809385 >>76809444 >>76809551 >>76809560 >>76809639 >>76809814 >>76810535
Are barbell rows and chinups enough to build a massively thick back? Or do I need deadlifts, shrugs, meadow-rows, jefferson curls, hyperextensions, etc?

if you could only pick 3 exercises to build a great back, what would they be?
Anonymous No.76809030 [Report]
Plank on Vibraplate
Resistance Band Vibraplate
Inclined walking
Swimming
Anonymous No.76809048 [Report]
Somekind of pulldowns + somekind of rows.
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Anonymous No.76809385 [Report] >>76809551 >>76809703
>>76809025 (OP)

without understanding how ur shoulder blades work, you will never get a wide thick back. there are 6 movements possible and if you are a beginner, start by growing width rather than thickness. you are gonna need more than 3 exercises to build ur back..

if i had to absolutely pick a list of essentials: high row, linear/mid row, lat pulldown, pull over, low row, and long pull.

but then, you prolly won't ever get a good back. so good luck~
Anonymous No.76809444 [Report]
>>76809025 (OP)
Yakub Solomon recommends any type of row where your elbows end up tucking in at your sides and any pulling movement where you focus on the lats.
Anonymous No.76809547 [Report] >>76809554 >>76809703
pullups > chinups, the thicker the grip u need to hold on to the better

front squats and sumo deadlifts are huge back builders, front squats put immense load on the upper back

Overhead Press will also build the upper back, a under-grip ROW (preferably seated) too

Im guessing you want that Upper Back thickness and density? its those lifts specifically
Anonymous No.76809551 [Report]
>>76809025 (OP)
Deadlift hits everything, if you don't do it you will miss things.
Just from deadlift alone I am strong at chins and rows.

>>76809385
You're probably tiny
Anonymous No.76809554 [Report] >>76809595
>>76809547
God just shut up. People like you are a fucking cancer. 90 IQs trying to reinvent the fucking wheel.
Anonymous No.76809560 [Report]
>>76809025 (OP)
Id pick
>Deadlifts
>Pendlay rows
>Wide grip pull ups/with a plate attached if strong enough for that
Anonymous No.76809595 [Report] >>76809819
>>76809554
ok i gave 100/100 S tier advice and i got this reply

fuck u im done giving help on here

bye fags, enjoy ur no gains with ur 1 arm cable pulldowns with 40lbs
Anonymous No.76809639 [Report]
>>76809025 (OP)
>shrugs
Are for the traps. Make sure to go heavy. Traps need heavy weight.
>deadlifts
>jefferson curls,
More for hamstrings, glutes, and erectors. You get trap and quite a bit of upper back development if you're going heavy enough though its often not enough. Jefferson curls take a lot of time to build up for. Better to just stick to deadlifts since you can go heavy almost immediately.
>hyperextensions
Mostly just for glutes and hamstrings and erectors. It's best to treat this as entirely a leg exercise as most of the work extending about the hip is done by the glutes and hamstrings. You can get good erector development. But it's not really a back exercise since it misses out on all the upper back you really can't get enough load on the upper back.
>pick 3
No. You need at least 4. Do chin ups, barbell rows, deadlifts, and shrugs.
Anonymous No.76809703 [Report] >>76809713
>>76809385
>6 movements possible
More than that if accounting for all variations in humerus angle, the shape of the ribcage, and the shape of the spine.
>list of essentials: high row, linear/mid row, lat pulldown, pull over, low row, and long pull.
It's funny. Yates set the standard for back in Olympia and he never touched high row, low row, or long pull. His routine is more basic. Moreover, much of the content even of his routine is just covering all the bases for judging standard. In reality if you want a thicc back, you get it from the basics: heavy chinups/pull ups, heavy barbell rows, heavy deads, and heavy shrugs. Everything else is for detail or covering weak points which you don't discover until after you've gotten the size.
>>76809547
>pullups > chinups
They're pretty much identical for training the lats if properly performed. Chin ups are just use the biceps a bit more.
>the thicker the grip u need to hold on to
Good for grip training. But the point of chin ups is to train the lats. You don't want your grip failing before your back.
>sumo deadlifts
Just do a standard deadlift. Sumo only exists to reduce rom and improve leverage so that tiny guys can cheat during powerlifting and get bigger numbers than they normally could. If you want a deadlift variation for the traps especially, do above the knee rack pulls with heavy weight. Much heavier than you could ever deadlift.
>front squats put immense load on the lower back
FTFY
Anonymous No.76809713 [Report]
>>76809703
Look, someone who actually knows what he's talking about, responding to a confused bullshit artist. See how actually having a clue cuts through the fog of nonsense.
Anonymous No.76809773 [Report] >>76809790
Horizontal pull (barbell, DB or cable row)
Vertical pull (chins, pull-ups or pull-downs nobody fucking cares)
Hinge (deadlift or better snatch grip deadlift)
That is literally it. Become strong in all of these in reasonable rep ranges
Anonymous No.76809790 [Report]
>>76809773
Not necessary. It makes no difference which direction you are facing.
Getting to a 4+ plate deadlift brought my row to 2 plates for reps and chin to 1 plate for reps without training them at all.
Anonymous No.76809803 [Report]
Some pulling with the elbows flared (upper back), some with the elbows close to the torso (lats), a deadlift variation and a shrug variation. That's pretty much it.
Anonymous No.76809814 [Report]
>>76809025 (OP)
3 lifts? Any variation of a deadlift or olympic lift. Any variation of a pull up. Any variation of a row.
Anonymous No.76809819 [Report]
>>76809595
Nigga, you told someone to do shoulder presses for upper back.
Anonymous No.76810535 [Report]
>>76809025 (OP)
I don't think it matters too much so long as you're doing some kind of heavy compound.