Thread 76810995

How much should I be able to bench press if I can do the entire stack on this Planet Fitness chest press (250) for 8 reps? It's the same chest press machine they have at every PF so some of you should be familiar with it. Also this pic isn't me it's some guy from a random pic I found online.

>smith machine
I don't like loading the weight plates so I don't know. I just do what I can on the chest press machine and I recently maxed it out.

>>76810995 (OP)
Probably 2 plates for 5-8. Maybe. The machine doesn’t work the same kind of thing as a normal bench press since everything is pre stabilized for you. There will be some carryover though

Only like 1 plate. Machines are fake and gay and mych easier than lifting real weights.

>>76811001
>>76810999
You're both fucking retarded. Those machines go up to like 260-300lbs. If you really think that's gonna translate to only 1-2pl8s? You're just perma-lurkers that have had your brains fried by this place. Oh and there's nothing wrong with PF.

>>76810999
Well the thing is just because it says 250 doesn't mean you are putting 250lbs of force on it. That's just how much the plates themselves weigh. It's a lever arm. and there are pulleys. It could be more or less.

>>76811001
You're absolutely stupid
>>76810999
Checked and correct

>>76811001
cope

>>76810995 (OP)
Hard to say the main barrier is how deep the machine starts in the range of motion. Because in bench you're unracking the bar from an arms extended posistion the where the strength curve of the triceps and chest is at its peak. Most people could not bench their current set weight if it started on their chest.

The stability loss in going to bench though is also significant. So it's probably going to be lighter but idk if it would translate as well as barbell to dumbell which is usually a ~20% strength loss for stability.

Stabilizers fatigue before prime movers on compound lifts, and that device is doing a lot of the stabilization for you. It's also freeing up some neural drive, because you have to recruit stabilizers to a lesser degree. 250 for 8 on it might equal ~190 for 8 with a barbell, but that's before we take into account any effects related to specificity of training (you're going to be good on the machine and bad with a barbell if you have practice with that machine and not a barbell).

It makes no difference whatsoever beyond preference. Weight is weight if you can lift 250 on a machine you'll be lifting that in free weights in no time

>>76811030
(You)

>>76810995 (OP)
>flat bench on smith machine
What a great idea. Try weighted dips also, but flat/incline lets you hit a ton of different variants youre missing out on dips are a good subsitute to main if you only have machines. You can stand your bed up and bench then out that aside even.
>if i have to move my equipment every session im not doing it
You can make it one insanity session every few days, just get squat stands and a nice incline bench although a standalone flat bench plus incline/squat cage is the way to go especially to get a cable setup, gym benches suck i cant flatback on them.