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Previous thread: >>105539750

>>105561982 (OP)
>the other thread is going to be full of identity politics trolling
>but by posting in this one im a bitch that got upset by an image thumbnail

bros... i fucking love linux

>>105562090
crazy how people really thought people like you just wanted to be "left alone". turns out christians really were right, you people can't stop being annoyances and just ruin everything by making it all revolve around yourself

>>105562155 (checked)
Same.
>>105562130
Distros for this feel?

>>105561982 (OP)
MX Linux is pretty good. Their no-systemd flavor is a little rough but it works. Hopefully they embrace the new xserver fork and incorporate the updated features and fixes. If not I am going to have to do it myself and that is almost guranteed to fail miserably. If and when it does, I am going to either build LFS or return to Slackware.

>>105562586
Based, you don't need more.

>>105561982 (OP)
Bvmp

>>105562586
I briefly looked into that but got confused if I should try v1, v2 or v3??? Some people say that some dev ruined v2 and v3 and that v1 would be the best?

anyone here switched to rust coreutils over GNUshit?

>>105562188
>Distros for this feel?
https://ubuntuce.com/

Hey so I was told I should use Timeshift to handle system back ups and shit like that, but when I tried to install it, it says that it needs an "ubuntu" filesystem scheme where / is actually @.
I looked around a bit and apparently you can only do this on installation and I'm currently not looking to reinstall my OS; is that actually true or is there an alternative to timeshift that doesn't require this shit?

>>105563749
I know that there are some things that won't work in v3 that worked in v2, but I haven't come across any issues with my config.

>>105564277
>is there an alternative to timeshift
Of course. People have been backing up their GNU+Linux systems for ~35 years.

Gay faggot snowflake thread. There was alrrady a thread.

Is there a way I can connect to a samba server using hostname on Nemo without having to edit my hosts file? Nautilus and Thunar do it just fine but Nemo is only working with IPs only

>>105565276
Set up mDNS so you can just use .local?

>>105565276
Is a Windows machine able to connect with it via \\machine-name?

If so then it's probably some winbind or sssd, etc, issue. I honestly have no idea how this is supposed to work.

>>105565165
Mad?

>>105562474
Systemd is disabled by default on MX (you need to install an extra package and change a config to enable it). I've found it to be far more dependable and usable than any of the other Debian forks OOTB. Thought it was a meme, but it breathed new life into a ton of my toasters, and the way they implement Xfce is perfection. On more capable PCs I'll probably continue using Fedora, but MX is fucking great.

>>105562586
>FaVelito Window Manager
i wish there was a wayland equivilant to it

>>105565703
Yeah, all the other PCs (Windows, macOS, and (X)Ubuntu) on my network can connect to my fileserver with just the hostname \\fileserver, but my laptop with Mint/Nemo can't. Its driving me insane and its actually kind of a deal breaker.

>>105565668
Editing the hosts file works fine too but ultimately I was hoping for a solution that would just work OOTB.

The Mint forums are such shit and they only just tell people to input the IP directly which is retarded.

Configuring my kernel one last time from the ground up...

>>105566108
>Editing the hosts file works fine too but ultimately I was hoping for a solution that would just work OOTB.
Until your IP address changes, then it doesn't work fine. On Arch all I had to do was install+enable avahi and edit /etc/nsswitch.conf to add "mdns_minimal [NOTFOUND=return]" on the "hosts:" line.

>>105566113
Finally I'm done. Off to bed, gn anons.

>>105566203
Sleep tight, anon.

How can I make the Atom D2550 work properly on Linux?

>>105566493
>How can I make the Atom D2550 work properly on Linux?
Make sure you read the friendly manual.

They finally added dolphin information panel back
https://bugs-devel.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1104977

now I can daily drive plasma trixie til 2027

>>105561982 (OP)
Do you have to be a NEET to have enough time to learn Loonix

>>105566663
>debian

>>105566822
yes, it just fucking werks. minimal plasma on debian stable is my go to daily drive since debian 11

>>105566769
I study and work so my days have very little free time and I was still able to learn Linux, so no. Linux is as hard as you make it be - you can just install Linux Mint and smooth breeze(most of the time) use your PC, but if you want to install Arch or Gentoo you will need time to learn what your system do.

>>105566912
NTA but I don't think anyone's saying it doesn't work. That's not the point, point is the Debian project doesn't make much sense in the current year.
>>105566493
How does it not work?

>>105567135
>That's not the point, point is the Debian project doesn't make much sense in the current year.

I disagree, I think it even more sense now. Flatpak is the tool to solve all debian problems, you can be running your 1990 libs in debian stable and still be able to run new programs/tools because they don't interfere with the system. The whole immutable distro concept can only work because AppImages/Flatpaks/Snaps.

Heck, even for gaming, you can install Flatpak/Snap Steam and it will run well regardless how many centuries old your debian dependencies are.

>>105567188
This guy gets it. Stable distro + Flatpak / AppImage / simple binaries for shit that's too ancient for you, is extremely comfy. I moved from Fedora on my dev server to Alma, and from Mint to Debian on my toaster thinkshit. Comfy AF. Only machine left in my house not on a stable distro is my primary PC, but that's only because I'm a package janny and can't emotionally disinvest from it. Once they've made it too much of a PITA to be a package janny, I'll switch over to Alma or Debian on that box too.

>>105567188
>Flatpak is the tool to solve all debian problems
Not having the latest version of your DE is kinda shit.

>>105568422
>Stable distro
You're confusing package stability with system stability. If anything package stability can result in a less usable or more buggy/unstable experience on desktops. It's not something the majority of desktop users want. Flatpaks and Appimages don't solve all the problems.

>>105568575
>Not having the latest version of your DE is kinda shit.
Bullshit, I got nothing but solid experience over plasma 5.27.5 on bookworm for the past 2 years. Meanwhile it took late 6.2 and 6.3 releases until plasma 6 become as reliable as late plasma 5, especially the early 6.0 bugs were quite rough on dolphin. I have fedora plasma on my laptop since late 2022 and still prefer debian stable experience over the semi rolling fedora.

>>105568575
>Flatpaks and Appimages don't solve all the problems.
sure, but it does solve my problems. I don't even need to use distrobox anymore on debian stable.

>>105564277
>BTRFS only
BTRFS assistant
>
Snapper
Borg/GUI derviatives(vorta/etc)
Rsync(clone?)

>>105561982 (OP)
Call me crazy or something but are the colors worse on plasma than windows while using an hdmi monitor or anything connected with hdmi? Dp works fine on both but hdmi for some reason the colors look a bit dull and the resolution is slightly lower despite both being set on the same res.

>>105562155
Same.

>>105563952
GNU for life, baby.

>>105567135
>the Debian project doesn't make much sense in the current year
To me, it's the only thing that makes sense. The trick for me was to learn how to properly run a testing/unstable mix.

>>105568575
>You're confusing package stability with system stability
Definitely not. My preference is for consistency and reliability, not frequent updates and acclimating to new releases of software every couple of weeks, months, or even years. I have projects that are tied to specific releases of software that are substantially behind the most recent version, and administer a number of endpoints in similar situations. I want to stay with the same package base, and the same major releases of software I use every day, for as long as humanly possible (so long as I'm receiving security -related updates and fixes for catastrophic bugs). I've been using GNU/Linux for close to 15 years now. I know exactly why I'm doing what I'm doing.

>If anything package stability can result in a less usable or more buggy/unstable experience on desktops
This is not the case for those of us who are not niggers, and this goes doubly so for widely used RHEL-compatibles and distros like Debian, Slackware, or Suse Leap.

So did kde end up mitigating its global themes malware vector?

Is there a way to add a tray icon for when a script is running in the background, and close it when its done?
with something like YAD?
I'm using xfce if this make a difference.

>>105566922
>you can just install Linux Mint and smooth breeze(most of the time) use your PC
You have no idea how ignorant the normies are who decide to use linux now that some internet personality advocated it. Sure, they probably can use a graphical installer and let it automatically partition the disk, but they do not know anything. They do not know what /-prefix means in a filesystem path, for example. They know NOTHING. One simple issue arises and off back to windows they go, because "linux is shit".

>>105566222
Good morning. The only thing I am missing from the kernel, again, is framebuffer support that actually works. The simple DRM FB does not work, the simple FB does not work, I have enabled consoles and whatever and just no, still black screen during boot until lightdm starts and also CTRL+ALT+Fx shows a black screen too except for the desktop.

It's some obscure hidden option that I always forget. I guess I could diff my configs to find it but I'll do that later. Maybe some anon knows what I'm missing....

What's good bash practices when scripting?

>>105569877
Idk, but I have my own separate "library" file for easy-to-use functions such as logging and prompting user.

>>105569886
like what?

>>105569896
>log function that outputs to /var/log
>prompt user y/n
>prompt user number
>prompt user string
>launch background program that allows user to do whatever and get result into var
>...
Just whatever generic shit I might need, depends on your use-case. It's cumbersome to always write stuff from scratch in bash, at least for me.

For me it's Ubuntu
>It just works
>It has media codecs out of the box
>You have a choice of LTS or a more recent version with newer packages
>Repos are huge
>Snaps can be useful, but if you prefer debs, you can just use debs instead
>Support from third parties is wider than for any other distro

>>105568750
I nooticed that too but I am using dp. I kinda figured it was a time based dimming feature that I couldn't be bothered to disable.

>>105569856
Found it, finally, fuck. It SHOULD work now.

>>105569958
FINALLY it works. Now I just have to check if the DRM fb driver actually works or do I have to keep the legacy drivers enabled.

>>105569911
car to share those?
and why not make it into snippet in vscodium?

Is pure Debian meant to be a filter? Anytime I've tried to install it it never works, even if I let it do it's own thing.

>>105570083
Stable is very outdated unless you install it right after a major version bump.

>>105570083
If you're using it as a desktop you're supposed to use Debian Sid. The stable version is mainly for servers.

>>105570104
I don't think that matters in this case because it never even boots up. Maybe I'm wrong though. Hell, this time it apparently didn't even install it's own fucking bootloader correctly.

>>105570285
>servers
Which was what I was looking for. I thought maybe this old business pc had something against Linux so I installed my old friend, Xubuntu, and it installed and works just fine.

>>105570341
>because it never even boots up
Always worked for me, flawlessly, debian that is.

Is there a way to make rofi show images or thumbnails?

>>105569877
Use shellcheck regularly when you change shit.

>>105570285
Have you tried TUM?

>Can I use Sid packages on "testing"?
>Yes, with some care. This is referred to as a "Testing-Unstable Mix". Configuration is required to ensure a testing system stays on testing, without apt upgrading every package to the unstable version.

https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable

>>105570104
>>105570285
>muh stable is for le servers
>muh you're supposed to have desktop unstable
Hey, can you shut the fuck up already?
There's no need to post this same drivel anytime anyone mentions a longterm release distro.

>>105570613
Debian unstable does not mean what it says. It's stable to some degree, because there are versions that are tested before the changes make it to unstable. Unstable is actually quite stable.

>>105570632
Let me know when you're done.

>>105570634
Done with what? I use debian myself, I know it very well.

>>105570613
There absolutely is because the whole push to use LTS distributions on desktops is retarded.

My grandmother runs Arch, btw.

>>105570642
>people realising they don't need/want new packages at all times start doing what makes the most sense for them
>this angers me so i'll call it a "push" (just like my jewish conspiracies) and proclaim that i absolutely have to *push back*, by telling those people what they're doing is wrong and retarded
alright, you do you, little bud
let me know how that little crusade went for you when you're done

I can't get hardware h264 decoding to work on Mint FIrefox.

Vainfo shows this:

libva info: VA-API version 1.20.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_20
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0
vainfo: VA-API version: 1.20 (libva 2.12.0)
vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 24.2.8-1ubuntu1~24.04.1 for AMD Radeon R6 Graphics (radeonsi, carrizo, LLVM 19.1.1, DRM 3.57, 6.8.0-51-generic)
vainfo: Supported profile and entrypoints
VAProfileMPEG2Simple : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileMPEG2Main : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileVC1Simple : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileVC1Main : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileVC1Advanced : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline: VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileH264ConstrainedBaseline: VAEntrypointEncSlice
VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileH264Main : VAEntrypointEncSlice
VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileH264High : VAEntrypointEncSlice
VAProfileHEVCMain : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileJPEGBaseline : VAEntrypointVLD
VAProfileNone : VAEntrypointVideoProc


The terminal shows this when playing a video:
ATTENTION: default value of option mesa_glthread overridden by environment.
libva info: VA-API version 1.20.0
libva info: Trying to open /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/radeonsi_drv_video.so
libva info: Found init function __vaDriverInit_1_20
libva info: va_openDriver() returns 0

Please help!

>>105570773
Did you follow the arch wiki on firefox hardware acceleration?
Also what are you using hardware wise?

>>105570773
What version of Firefox is this?
>>105570805
Most of that should be unnecessary with an up-to-date Firefox now but it's still a good idea to read it. It contains troubleshooting info like a logging environment variable you can set to debug how Firefox loads libva and whether or not it's working properly.

>>105570816
Actually looking at it again it may be disabling it because there's no VP9 support. You might have to force it and use the h264ify extension.

>>105570704
>people realising they don't need/want new packages at all times
this isn't most people

>>105570967
It's not. Which means it's not some kind of conspiratorial "push" towards LTS desktops that warrants a PSA any time anyone brings up an LTS distro.

>>105570984
It is warranted because the distributions people recommend the most are all LTS or LTS-pushing distributions. Which makes absolutely no sense as they're not suitable for most people's needs.

>>105570661
Formerly grandfather.

>>105570805
>>105570816
Well, I updated firefox and it works now.

>>105571005
>distributions people recommend the most are all LTS or LTS-pushing
I feel like that's just your own autistic fantasy that you came up with, to justify the autistic need to tell people to do things your way, whenever an LTS distro is mentioned. Aside from maybe Debian, I don't see LTS desktops being used much, let alone "pushed".
>they're not suitable for most people's needs
Even if that's true, it doesn't mean that you can use this kind of appeal to the majority, as justification for statements like "you're *supposed* to use bleeding edge on desktops; LTS is for servers"

>>105571118
I don't think this is the issue though.

>>105571128
Newer versions enabled it by default, older versions you had to force it. I guess Firefox probably falls back to software correctly for them now too (for VP9) where as before it might not have (I seem to remember it used to fail if it couldn't hardware decode properly because the fallback path wasn't working but I may be mis-remembering)

>>105571124
>Aside from maybe Debian, I don't see LTS desktops being used much, let alone "pushed".
>what is Ubuntu/Mint

>LTS is for servers
Correct!

>>105571128
Allegedly everything is working now, but I still get 100% CPU usage watching 1080p stream on Twitch so I give up.

>>105570083
What's pure Debian? As in installing it via Debootsrap like you were installing Arch or Gentoo? The basic process is the same for all.
>>105568811
>The trick for me was to learn how to properly run a testing/unstable mix.
At that point could just be using Arch.

>>105571176
>but I still get 100% CPU usage watching 1080p stream on Twitch so I give up.
Install the h264ify extension, Twitch is probably trying to use HEVC or whatever other proprietary experiment they're doing nowadays.
https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/h264ify/

>>105571219
Twitch reports avc1, youtube with h264fy is the same.

>>105571176
>watching 1080p stream on Twitch
you didn't tell me what's you igpu.
And most of this is shitty twitch JS DRM

>>105571238
They're using some shit AMD iGPU (not even Ryzen):
>vainfo: Driver version: Mesa Gallium driver 24.2.8-1ubuntu1~24.04.1 for AMD Radeon R6 Graphics (radeonsi, carrizo, LLVM 19.1.1, DRM 3.57, 6.8.0-51-generic)

>>105571235
I would follow:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Firefox#Hardware_video_acceleration

Then run Firefox in the terminal like:
# kill/close firefox first
pkill -x firefox
pkill -x firefox-bin
env MOZ_LOG="FFmpegVideo:5" firefox 2>&1 | tee -a firefox.log


Then go and play a video, let it play for 5-15 seconds and close/kill the browser again. Post the log files to a pastebin dump somewhere.

Is there a way to get a thumbnail view for video files with thunar whens selecting file for firefox?
I tried pikeru and it didn't work.

How to get CS:GO when it's no longer available on steam?
I just want to play solo, and my pc can't handle CS2

>>105571457
Pirate it?

>>105571477
from where?
fit girl doesn't have it, and it's already free.

>>105571479
You're acting like there's only one guy in the whole world with copy. Go and find it, I don't know where it is. It'll appear somewhere.

Got one of those SFF for my living room TV to use for light games and emulation.
I'll be installing CachyOS on it, so it's my first time dealing with arch.
1. Most of my ROMs are on my NAS, Would it be a problem if I load it from there instead of copying it over? assuming it's all running on 1 Gigabit.
2. What's the best way to mount the NAS on this machine?
I mean I know the whole create fstab entry and such, but is there some options that would improve the performance? like nofail and noatime?
3. I'd like to have the NAS mounted and would show on the file manger in the PLACES in dolphin, how can I do this? or is this something impossible to do?
4. Is there a way to make it mount only on need?
5. I've got some games configured with bottles on another PC, if i want to copy over do i just copy the bottles directory to the new install? Or do I need to export it somehow?
6. The OS would be installed on the NVME slot, but I got HDD in there as well.
I was reading this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Xdg_user_directories
But didn't find a way to make one of the /home subdirectories to be on separate drive/partition

Sorry asking too much.

>>105571310
https://pastebin.com/kE3kUMME

>>105571683
You can see VAAPI is being used successfully. If it's using high CPU then it's just the webpage being shit.

>>105561982 (OP)
Been using Mint with cinnamon for about 4 years now. Mostly happy with it. I'm thinking about switching to kubuntu though. I like dolphin and krunner a lot.
What would /g/ do?

>>105571817
Modern software never ceases to amaze me.

Is this shit usable in 2025?

The technician installed Windows 11 on my brand new PC, I decided to leave it like that since I was going to use that PC just for gaming and then I installed like 700gbs worth of games in it, but now I see myself using my PC more than my Linux notebook and I’m just uncomfortable using Windows again instead of Linux, besides apparently Linux is even better for gaming than Windows 11. So what should I do? Do I install Linux on my PC? But that would mean deleting 700gbs of games and this would probably fuck up the lifespan of my SSD, right?

>>105572173
>deleting 700gbs of games and this would probably fuck up the lifespan of my SSD, right?
I'm pretty sure SSDs don't do a real "delete". They just flag data cells as empty, so that new data can be written there.
So, you won't lose any SSD lifespan.

>apparently Linux is even better for gaming than Windows 11
It really depends on the game and what tech stack the game is using.

>Do I install Linux on my PC?
There's no harm in doing it. Currently the best distro is the gay distro (especially if you're gaming): https://bazzite.gg/

>>105572173
The filesystem writes maybe a few kb of metadata to mark everything deleted.

>>105572173
>The technician installed Windows 11 on my brand new PC
It's not your pc if some "technician" installs shit on it
>deleting 700gbs of games and this would probably fuck up the lifespan of my SSD, right?
nope

>>105572579
>>105572733
>>105572768
Uuuh i’m pretty sure I read somewhere that deleting stuff from your ssd damages it over time

>>105572916
You read it wrong
https://itfix.org.uk/how-long-does-data-stay-on-ssd-drives-after-deletion/
>When you delete a file on an SSD, the file is not immediately erased. Rather, the operating system marks the file’s blocks as invalid. This helps speed up the deletion process. However, the actual data remains on the SSD until the garbage collection process reclaims the invalid blocks.

I'm genuinely perplexed. Spent the best part of last Sunday trying and installing different distros. For some reason the SSD I was installing them to would just straight up not show up in my bios as a selectable boot drive and just refuse to boot into linux (but I could format it in windows and gparted...etc.). I gave up and just went back to using windows. Earlier today I turned on my pc twice and both times it booted into windows both times. I come back from the shop, turn on pc and it booted into popOS (don't judge me, i wanted to see what the fuss is about). What in the actual fuck? As far as I remember I did not change any bios settings/boot priorities or orders.

>>105572916
Keywords:
>Over time
How new is this drive?
How many terabytes of data have you written to it?
Chances are you're nowhere near your drives maximum write endurance rating. You can check the SMART stats of the drive if you were worried about that and then replace the drive before it fails.

why is my resolution always fucked up in virt-manager/qemu? i always get 640/480 or whatever. the settings in virt-manager for the display device do nothing.
where do i start troubleshooting?

What's the performance droprate in WINE, if any?
Mostly for games really on a work macbook I tried Parallels and it was fine, just incredibly bad loading times

Is WINE better or worse in regard to native ports? Technically kinda windows related bu there's some non-gaming shit I'd need to run for the business too

>>105573261
depends on the game, anon, depends on the game.

>>105573283
I'll try a few installers of pirated games in WINE once I figure it out and try it that way, thanks

>>105573261
>What's the performance droprate in WINE, if any?
Could be anywhere from 0% to 50% (some nVidia-only features are not supported by their Linux drivers and aren't efficient in WINE). Most of the time it shouldn't be more than a 10% drop. In some games it's actually faster than Windows-native, depending on your GPU and the game.
>Is WINE better or worse in regard to native ports?
Usually either better or much better. Especially for older games.
Also, a lot of games have "Linux ports" which are actually just wrapped in some old WINE version. So running the Windows version via WINE is objectively going to be better.

>>105572916
Doing anything with a SSD damages it over time. In terms of page erases deleting stuff is one of the cheapest actions there is.

How ado non traditional environments like hyprland hold up ? I've been curious on giving non traditional environments a try, but worried it might be too tedious to use

>>105574041
>non traditional environments
you what mate?

>>105572916
Unless you are trying to destroy your SSD.
You can't ruin it with normal writes.
In practice you can use it 100 years with heavy writes, like 20TB of writes per month.

>>105574090
>You can't ruin it with normal writes.
You can, we had to replace ssds on systems that did like nothing besides writing logs to it.

>>105574087
Meant like kde, xfce, gnome, etc.

Traditional probably isn't the word I should've used, maybe simple?

In Cinnamon, scrollbars don't have the up/down arrow for some reason. How can I add that?

>>105574175
dunno, hyprland was simpler to me than any of these 3.

>>105574041
hyprland on arch with no DE is so fucking good/low resource usage and almost no one knows about it. not even the fucking maintainers seem to realize how good it is.

you can run mpv with just hyprland/pipewire. i watch the animes and it all works fine, including gpu accel.

>>105574284
>you can run mpv with just hyprland/pipewire.
Bro, running mpv is something like any environment can do.

>>105572135
Yes.

>>105574326
maybe so. i'm just saying most people don't realize it's possible and it actually works fucking well.
most people think you can only do video-related shit with a DE.

>>105574122
>You can, we had to replace ssds on systems that did like nothing besides writing logs to it.
How big logs?
Also this is 100% poor optimization or maybe controller fault.
Did you stop firefox disk caching?

>>105574284
>hyprland on arch with no DE is so fucking good/low resource usage
how low?
Pic?

>>105574224
need a fix fast please it's too painful to use the computer without those buttons

>>105561982 (OP)
this is a good thread
>>105572700

How's HDR on GNU/Linux/KDE/Plasma/Wayland Arch Linux btw?
Can you watch HDR videos? Play HDR gaymes?

>>105574434
i'm not at home right now, but to give you an idea, i'm running mpv in hyprland on a 4gb nuc i5 and *when i'm watching* anime encoded in x264 (so its using the intel integrated "gpu") it usually only takes about 500mb-600mb
when it's idle, it's about 400mb and the fan usually stays very quiet.
people are using DEs for shit they really don't need it for.
we need to bring about the age of the WM.

Do most modern laptops 'just work' with Linux? Even back when I fucked around with thinkspad that were from around ten years ago I didn't see any issue except maybe battery

I'm looking to get something fairly lightweight and integrated gpu
Otherwise my options are getting one of these fuckers
https://www.tuxedocomputers.com/en

Since I'm a EUfag

>>105574412
Not too big, and there is no browser on those systems. Still, the 2 of them that write more logs than the others pretty much killed the ssds after years of writing some logs to them.
These were early ssds with 120GB

Why does ffmpeg's strftime() not support milliseconds as a format specifier? I want to save screenshots maintaining HH:MM:SS.ms in the filename but either I am really stupid or this cannot be done.

You have to use pts_time instead apparently if you want an accurate timestamp in the filename but this isn't accurate if you're doing something like -ss and -to to limit it to a range the filename will start at something like frame_0000000000.jpg even though the actual number is much different.

Am I just retarded?

>>105574346
hyprland is a full wayland compositor, it's no different from kde and the others. Did you mean wayfire or something?

>>105574531
no, i meant just hyprland + ghostty.
wtf are you even talking about when you say it's no diff from kde. that makes no fucking sense. kde is a full fat DE. hyprland is nothing like that, not even close.

>>105574487
That's nothing
even fucking athelon can do that.

>>105574565
you must be a jeet

>>105574555
what do you mean by just hyprland? it's trying to be fancy, not lightweight. It comes with animations and shit.
On wayland, you just have compositors. The DE/WM distinction is a thing from X11 days.

>>105574585
nah, just too much time on this shit board, their bad english started to rub on me

>>105574585
nice stall commander pajeet

>>105574602
>it's trying to be fancy, not lightweight.
its both

>>105574512
Somebody even made a patch for this, so no, not retarded:
https://github.com/InSoundz/ffmpeg-strftime-milliseconds

How the fuck did that never get added to mainline ffmpeg? Did nobody ever once think it'd be useful to have milliseconds in the output filename?

>>105574627
still eats 343 MB

>>105574676
1% of the average home PC's memory, WOW WHAT A WASTE OF RAM, WOULD NOT USE, PIG DISGUSTING

>>105574259
I dual boot and use windows for a lot of things, the idea of a fully tile based system is quite intimidating desu.
>>105574284
Just tried installing it on endeavour, but I might've fucked it up because I can't really do anything and it seems to be frozen

>>105574709
by that logic even the fattest DE will be fine.

>>105574733
just install arch (minimal install) and install
hyprland ghostty nnn
works for me

>>105574767
never, ever, install no nut november

>>105574783
kek
nnn is actually jeetware but surprisingly good jeetware
i tried out the other nu-file managers and they all rubbed me up the wrong way

>>105574767
I fixed it, for some reason i have to plug my mouse/KB out and in after login

NVM figured out

>>105574762
It will be. Literally every DE can run on 4GB devices just fine.

>>105575011
gnome/ubuntu can't, not anymore.

>>105574487
>when it's idle, it's about 400mb
I just found a 16 year old screenshot where I was running fluxbox with 37mb of ram usage. I want to go back

Aight, just finished installing Arch, switched over from Ubuntu. How do I install programs in this shit? There’s no App Store like in Ubuntu, do I have to use the command line?

>>105575064
....yes

>>105575034
Nah, you can run current GNOME and KDE even on 2GB devices. It won't be a good experience, but it's possible.
The only issue I see with Ubuntu is maybe snaps taking up more memory.

>>105575064
how did you install it without knowing what was in store for you to install packages? im curious, did you read the archiwiki? did you use some install script that handheld you?

>>105575064
How did you come this far without knowing how to install packages? They really should remove that install script again

>>105575076
>It won't be a good experience
this is why i'm telling people about hyprland
it can run fine on 1gb

>>105575082
I just downloaded the iso to a bootable prndrive and followed the instructions on the graphical interface, a literal monkey could that dude…

>>105575086
gatekeeping niggers absolutely btfo

>GeForce Now
>the only way to play certain games on Linux
>they release a native Linux app for Steam Deck, hopefully this means you can finally play those games with much better latency and performance than in the browser
>try to install it on a Kubuntu and get this message when you try to run it

Has anyone gotten this working outside of Steam OS yet?

>>105575147
*install it on a desktop running Kubuntu

>>105575091
Let's be real, if you're using a device with under 4GB in 2025 you're probably not going to use a GUI on it at all.

>>105575147
I assume dependencies on Kubuntu aren't up to date enough.
Can you run this within a terminal to see the actual error messages and where it fails?
Might also be helpful to check which dependencies are required by the binary.

>>105575244
>Let's be real, if you're using a device with under 4GB in 2025 you're probably not going to use a GUI on it at all.
idk about that, rpis are a thing.

What ever happened to the cybersec general and why is the word cyber being censored in some archives?

>>105575091
and what's the point when you then start a browser on it?

>>105575365
i haven't tried that yet, i actually was planning to at some point just for fun. pretty sure you could run a single tab or even a couple in 1gb as long as you don't attempt something retarded like running a modern tracked-filled site like x.

>>105575313
pretty sure most people who use rpis with a gui nowadays are just using the 4GB or 8GB models.

>>105575388
I used gui on a pi once, it was awful.

First time using Arch, got me a live version. Is there a way to try and pop a de on it that doesn't require a restart?

>>105575917
You'd have to install directly to the USB (not sure if you can do that while it's in use or not but in theory you can) or build your own custom iso image.

>>105575953
>or build your own custom iso image.
https://wiki.artixlinux.org/Main/InstallationUsingBuildiso

>>105575967
>>105575953
thank you

Any tiling wm users have trouble with getting Beta versions of Minecraft to go fullscreen? My window just flickers when I press F11. I'm using Prism Launcher, oh and also Qtile for the wm.

>>105576073
Try launching it in gamescope. That should rule out if it's your window manager or not at least

>>105576177
Haven't heard of that, I'll give it a go. But newer versions as long as other games work just fine.

>>105576201
It's mostly used by people running Wayland compositors but you can run it nested in an X11 session too:
https://github.com/ValveSoftware/gamescope

>>105576219
Will give it a spin, thanks.

>>105576241
Just says that it failed to read Wayland events, and gives me a coredump.

Also forgot to mention but on openbox everything works just fine, hence why I assumed it was a tiling wm thing.

>>105576219
>you can run it nested in an X11 session too
nta but how?

How's nvidia gpu on Artix linux? Am I gonna have sleep/suspend problem because of systemd scripts?

I want to make my own minimal distro with busybox and grub for my desktop PC but that's gonna be so much pain that I guess it's better if I don't bother...

>>105576792
Gentoo exists.
>>105576376
>systemd
>script
>>105575967
>>105576011
Isn't that an insane amount of work just to humor oneself?
>>105575696
Figured.
Tried firing up Xorg on an Orange Pi One and it instantly crashed. Not that it could've done anything relevant with it as there was only 512MB of RAM.
>>105575082
"Arch base" works alright case you don't need Wi-Fi for le internets.
Isn't that the usual problem for noobs? Getting a crude base system only to figure out Wi-Fi tools aren't part of Linux basics? Happens regardless the distribution when one does a minimal install.

I made the mistake of buying an OLED asus laptop, and it's got some windows locked features like OLED care and battery saver to lock it to 80% max charge, is there anything like on linux if I were to install it on my shitass laptop?
Also how likely is it that I'll have battery troubles or shit not working like my cam/mic/alt F1 keys?

I'm considering switching cause Win11 hard crashes every couple of days and ruins the fuck out of my workflow, and cause getting more used to linux out of the mkdir/ls/docker compose i do at work would be cool

>>105577507
>an insane amount of work
You sound pretty below average IQ, anon.

>>105577794
>learn new thing
>get a bootable ISO as a reward
>flash it to a USB stick
>boot it
>looks like shit, want to try another mixture of packages
>repeat task
VS
>just install Arch and see how it works
Just doesn't weight correctly on my scale.

>>105577828
It is clear you aren't going to be honest about the situation. Good luck to you out there.

>>105577925
Your insults aren't going to make the idea less silly.
Try focusing on things, not people.

>>105577578
I got a Lenovo laptop recently and, to my surprise, limiting the battery charge through the good old windows energy settings (not even the vendor specific application) carried over to my Linux install so you could try that. If that fails I think tlp does the job.
No clue about OLEDs.
>how likely is it that I'll have battery troubles
It depends, as usual. Once again, look into tlp and it's settings. Also look into what your chosen distro+DE offer for energy management because you don't want to have 2 energy management tools running simultaneously. If your laptop has 2 vcards then you'll have to do some fiddling for sure.
>shit not working like my cam/mic/alt F1 keys?
I've had 2 laptops running Linux and most of the things have worked out of the box. I think my decade old laptop required some tweaks, can't remember if it was the brightness controls or proper touch pad support.
The most recent one had everything working out of the box.

>>105578033
>Try focusing on things, not people.
>just to humor oneself
Okay, look at you being honest and stuff.

>>105578093
Counterarguments please. Building bootable ISOs ain't gonna teach him Arch regardless.

>>105578109
>teach him Arch regardless.
>just install Arch and see how it works
hurr I hope you live a long time.

>>105576304
gamescope -w 1920 -h 1080 -- command-you-use-to-launch-game

>>105567135
>How does it not work?
Graphical acceleration doesn't work, but apparently there is no way to make it work in Linux since the proprietary driver is old as fuck.

I'm still preparing for my jump to Linux, but what do I do about all my games that save their data in Program Files or even appdata?

>>105570357
Yeah I don't know why I've never gotten it to work. It might as well be my white whale at this point.

>>105571193
>What's pure Debian?
I guess I could have just said Debian. Just plain ole Debian. Think the version I tired was Bookworm this time.

>>105578504
there is no x11 in this

>>105578621
Manual backup, you'll probably need to reinstall some of them due to reg keys that get written during the installation (mostly on older games) or dependencies that comes with the iso/repack, some will work fine just moving the folder over to the prefix

>>105578621
Manual backup, you'll probably need to reinstall some of them due to reg keys that get written during the installation (mostly on older games) or dependencies that come with the iso/repack, some will work fine just moving the folder over to the prefix

>>105578910
To add to this, you can backup your registry and then reapply the entries in whichever file requires the information contained within.

>>105578877
The X11 is the wlroots backend

>>105578877
>x11 session -> gamescope -> xwayland to run the game
there's x11 even twice

>>105577507
>Gentoo exists.
But that is a distribution with all problems solved. I want to make my own. I just woke up and started building a live cd image builder in a Dockerfile. :-)

How do I change a busybox build config option programmatically instead of using the menuconfig tool?

>>105580039
I guess I have to use sed, I cannot find a script in the busybox sources.

>>105573261
i have no idea how well wine runs on mac os, even less if it's one of the new arm ones which require x86 emulation to run windows games using wine, that alone would at least mean it's going to be slower than native mac games. otherwise, if i remember correctly mac os only supports metal (great naming there apple, there already was a graphics api named metal. very original of you). so i don't know if there's further penalties for running dxvk over metal instead of vulkan, assuming that's possible

>>105574585
>we're stalling wat do
>maintain pitch
>we're going down
>maintain pitch
>sarr we're still stalling
>maintain pi--

My modern thinkpad (P14s G4) with a ryzen 7840U has some sort of very autistic thermal management. Basically it can sustain about 3.6-3.8 GHz under compiling loads while staying under tjmax; but it doesn't do that right away. Instead, it boosts to over 4GHz for 10-20 seconds, overheats to about 99*C, and throttles HARD to like 700MHz or something. At that point the entire thing becomes slow as fuck for another 10-20 seconds as it quickly cools down but then slowly and carefully ramps back up to normal speeds. Then it tends to stay at sustainable clock speeds for a while, until the next time it decides it's time to turbo boost to the moon and immediately throttle.

What tools can I use to make it less retarded? I lose way more time while it's barely working and cooling down than I gain from the few seconds it's able to sustain idk 4.2GHz rather than 3.8.

>>105575091
you can run kde on less than that

>>105578621
you can copy the saves over to the wine prefix you run the game with

>>105571193
>At that point could just be using Arch.
There is more to a distro than package versions, my friend.

>>105572768
>It's not your pc if some "technician" installs shit on it
I was thinking that. The concept of someone on /g/ having some "technician" install operating systems on hardware they own truly baffles me.

>>105579984
Boots now in QEMU with initramfs!

I even installed syslinux with boot menu which automatically boots into the OS after a delay if user chooses nothing. Thanks arch wiki for that!

>>105561982 (OP)
Are there any good audio players for vidya music? I have fooyin and it works great for most of my library but it's missing codecs for some formats like PSF, SSF, etc.

>>105580843
>mfw I have no idea what to do now
I guess I'll build/install glibc next? Or musl? I have no idea how to turn this into a functional live environment that could actually install itself on a disk.

https://musl.libc.org/doc/1.1.24/manual.html

What software shouldn't I install the flatpak version of

>>105581362
vscode/vscodium

What's a good file explorer for ubuntu
I like some stuff about dolphin but it's settings are limited and it's preview animation is annoying

>>105581095
I realized now that I must probably get this as-minimal as possible system running with a compiler toolchain included and then build the rest of the image in this "stage1" image? I guess this is why the gentoo userspace we usually install is called "stage3", because it's literally built in stages?

>Trying to move from Windows since I'm tired of all the forced AI crap.
>Installed OpenSUSE first but had some issues, switched to Kubuntu.
NO WONDER UBUNTU IS THE MOST POPULAR DISTRO. Every problem I had (audio crackling when rapidly changing the volume, xbox controller not working, etc) is gone. EVERYTHING JUST WERKS! Freesync which was a non-negotiable feature is running perfectly and everything I used on Windows I found alternatives, some even better like GPU Screen Recorder instead of AMD's Relive. I only need to fix the font rendering, but that is so minor I wont even bother for a while.

Thanks /fglt/ and Pewdiepie. FAREWELL M$!

If I can't get steam big image mode
Is there a way to get something similar to playnite?
I have several games that's running in wine and some games that are linux native.
I want a way to navigate and launch those games with gamepad, without having to use mouse/keyboard.

>>105581892
>forced AI crap
U wut m8? Just unpin the recall icon, its not so hard

Self hosting snaps
>download snap
>it just works
Self hosting docker containers
>well, you have to clone this repo
>then you have to make all these overrides
>but the overrides exist in the different file so you need 2 terms open or tmux to reference each it
>then it like, spins up another machine
>then it turns out the retards who build it hard coded some config in so fuck you i guess
>have you granted permissions for that retard?
>you have a another process using that port on the guest machine? are you a retard? the container port can't use that either faggot

>>105581969
The self hosted nextcloud aio docker image is basically
>download this image
>run it
>done
What project are you talking about

>>105581892
>I only need to fix the font rendering
Really? Ubuntu has the best font rendering of any distro.

I run the Linux
I boot the Debian
Not into corpo distros
But why is Ubuntu so pretty

>>105582185
Ubuntu being aesthetically pleasing has always been one of its core things. Makes it seem "friendlier."

Ubuntu is not pretty and its desktop is garbage.

>>105581892
>i tried two distros and the second one is the bestest distro evar!
damn wait until you try a third distro

waylandsisters i need your help,

how do you set load variables at boot?
i dont know how to set those for example PATH or EDITOR, my own CUSTOM_SHELL_DIRECTORY, etc...
i want to set them globally, so they will be accessed everywhere

x11 had .profile file and i set those in there
wayland has nothing like that for my knowledge

i prefer to not put those variables in .bashrc because it is loaded everytime the new bash session is open, rather than login shell just once

>>105569877
format bash scripts with shfmt

those below stuff is cool:
mapfile -t git_repos < <(find "$DIR" -type d -name '.git') --- creates temporary file and deletes it after used and assigned to list
grep 's' <<< "string" --- passes string to commands

>>105582536
If you're using systemd ~/.config/environment.d/env.conf

>>105570632
>>105570639
not the guy you talked but no, its not stable at all!
it fucking broke for me in the first week, probably arch would be stablier

>>105582633
tried it, not works
[anon@foo:~]
$ echo $SCRIPTS

[anon@foo:~]
$ grep 'SCRIPTS' ~/.config/environment.d/envvars.conf
SCRIPTS="${HOME}/Repos/personal/Scripts"
SCRIPTS_LOGDIR="/var/log/user-scripts"
PATH="${PATH}:${SCRIPTS}"


i lauched it by just typing in tty
river
maybe its wrong approach

how do you do it? using gdm?

>>105582154
It is a bit aliased and thin. Little search I did indicates it has something to do with Wayland apparently. But as I said I wont bother with it now.
>>105582456
I don't understand this, are you saying the third or fourth distro will automatically be better in everything than the second one? Why is that? I don't see how another switch is a guaranteed upgrade.

>>105582536
In fedora's sway spin they're loaded from ~/.config/sway/environment or something like that. Haven't used gayland beyond sway so I don't even know if they're handled in similar ways in other wm/des

>>105582944
>I don't understand this, are you saying the third or fourth distro will automatically be better in everything than the second one? Why is that? I don't see how another switch is a guaranteed upgrade.
no, i'm saying you're not a position to be proclaiming something like "no wonder ubuntu is popular" when you've only tried two distros
note that i'm not really suggesting you try a ton of distros either. i'm not against you liking ubuntu, it's just the way you presented it suggests these are unique to ubuntu rather than a fault of opensuse

>>105569945
Nope its disabled. Maybe ICC profiles isn't ready yet

found a female Jewish Luke Smith. how many clones are out there?

>>105583237
she's the next stallman (stallwoman ?)

>>105583237
We already know about your channel

>>105583237
no, my life is about consuming the internet

>>105583237
bossmanjack if he female

>finally find out what is freezing whonix VM
>it's when the mouse is sitting above a tool tip for a long time (tabbed out of vm)
>GTK3 no longer supports optional tooltips
lmao

>>105583237
>the internet shouldn't consume your life
yea thanks, cute woman who couldn't possibly understand what loneliness actually means

>>105561982 (OP)
I there an open source C/C++ code editor for Linux that has intellisense, hover on docs etc. that isn't proprietary crap? Like when I type function or structure it would tell me its internals?

>>105583526
>cute woman
kek

>>105583612
i will admit i'm super drunk right now.

>>105583578
Why not just use VSCodium with clangd?

>>105583772
Thanks! This is what I was looking for. I thought only usable extension fo VS Code and alternatives is proprietary ms trash

>>105584006
If something isn't available on the codium store but it is on the ms store then you can find workarounds to download them anyway.

Intel NUC with Arch installed on it keeps locking up, just after I finish watching something with mpv.
Are there any logs I should check to figure out where things may be going wrong?

How do I cope with the fact that I've been using xmpp for a long time now yet no one ever messages me there and there are no popular interesting public chatrooms

>DT made a video about YAD
>see how I could find that useful
>net-libs/webkit-gtk
That would take several hours to compile.

>>105584207
Chatrooms are for LOSERS unless you call it Discord.

>>105584207
sudo pacman -Sudoku

Why is there still no good linux tan?

>>105584829
go back to looking at pizza you disgusting filth. try not to touch any little kids today.

>>105584849
Wow antisemitic much?

>>105584892
why yes, thank you for noticing

>>105584958
Holy kek

>>105584958
EXABASED
NUKE TELAVIV
KILL ALL KIKES

So after a lot of thinking and research I've decided to use Fedora instead of Debian (worried about dated packages) with KDE.
The only thing I'm unsure about is whether using the "immutable" version would be a good idea or not.
So far based on watching a few videos on the topic and reading about a bit it feels like it would introduce more random unexpected headaches than problems it would solve for me compared to something like Fedora workstation /KDE.
Any opinions on this?
Also any benefits of GNOME over KDE? Picked KDE purely based on looks.

>>105585080
>Any opinions on this?
If you want an immutable distro, then don't pick the regular Fedora ones. Pick either Bazzite or Aurora, they're much better ootb.
If you don't want an immutable distro, again don't pick the default Fedora ones. Pick Nobara instead (same reason).
There's not much of a difference between regular and atomic (immutable) distros. Atomic distros still let you install software normally, it's just different behind the scenes.
>Also any benefits of GNOME over KDE?
GNOME is for non-techie people who mainly use mobile operating systems.
KDE is for people who are already used to the Windows-like desktop paradigm.
There's no real reason to use one over the other. GNOME is just "simpler" in a way, while KDE has much more features.

>>105565668
NTA but how to do this?

>>105570285
If you want to use debian sid then just use arch instead

>>105585268
this
even on a desktop, why would you want outdated and never-updated packages?

Still wondering how I should build my own distro. I don't want to cheat by looking at the other distros how they do it. I have kernel and openbox booting, now I think I need a working C compiler so I'm trying to build GCC and install it into the initramfs image but this is tough.

>>105585471
>openbox
I meant busybox.

>>105585471
>trying to build GCC and install it into the initramfs image
bro, you're scaring me

>>105585197
Install and enable avahi, enable mdns/mdns_minimal support in /etc/nsswitch.conf if it's not already there.
All nodes you want accessible through .local domains must be running the service, mDNS is effectively P2P.

>>105585489
Why? Anyways, it's building it now, it does it in 3 passes, it verifies itself by rebuilding itself. Didn't know this.

Well now it built it, the result is a 1gb image, so gcc is big I guess. Idk probably not something you put into initramfs but whatever, I'll stop here for now.

>>105586033
>gcc is big I guess. Idk probably not something you put into initramfs
pretty much this

Win 11 has given me 3 problems in the past 2 months.

1) one computer just completely fucked itself up one day, networking all gone, I went deeper and deeper trying to fix it, the Windows Defender firewall service had killed itself and taken all networking with it. I couldn't do anything to repair the install so had to do a clean install.

2) another computer also fucked itself up. Not as badly, but updates all started to fail. I tried the DISM stuff and it couldn't because the image was missing or corrupt or whatever. This time I did an in-place repair, and it worked, but still a fucking hassle.

3) Same computer as in 2). A laptop. Went to sleep and just wouldn't wake up. Wouldn't even hard shut down with the power button. Internal battery these days so impractical to remove battery. Had to do the pinhole thing to do a hard reset. Never had such a problem even with various w10 computers for nearly a decade. I cosuspect this is to do with w11's shitty impementation, their re-envisioning of sleep and what 'Sleep' should actually mean on a device. Fucking retards. They want computers to be like smartphone, to not actually go to sleep, but basically just to switch the screen off. And then if it stays asleep long enough, hibernate. No normal classic sleep mode any more. These fucks have been trying to turn Windows into a mobile OS since 2012 starting with Windows 8. Don't they fucking realize people want a normal computing experience on their computers, and a phone experience with their phones? This was a much smaller issue than the other two but still a fucking hassle.

I'm honestly starting to believe that Windows doesn't just-werk any more. That was one of the big arguments vs Linux. That for all its faults, the bloat, the botnet, it at least JUST WERKS and it doesn't break every month. Now I'm wondering if Linux is actually less break-prone than Windows. Honestly thinking of switching to Ubuntu LTS. Thoughts?

>>105586060
the only thing i was thinking about reading this is
>why is he torturing himself

>>105586090
literally just the past 2 months desu senpai
but yeah, now im really leaning towards finally switching
just tell me honestly, will ubuntu LTS be less break-prone than what ive experienced with w11?

>>105561982 (OP)
based mx

>>105586127
>Ubuntu
>less break-prone
I have never in my life seen Ubuntu successfully upgrade from one version to the next without breaking something terribly.
Look into Fedora Atomic distros if you want stability.

>>105586275
>Look into Fedora Atomic distros if you want stability.
All videos claim it's full of issues that are outside of what you usually encounter. Introduce as many problems as they solve.
Why not just use Fedora Workstation "just works" pretty much, no?

>>105586127
After messing around on arch for over half a decade (+ 6ish months in memejaro) I definitely suggest going for a rolling release instead, you *have* to be more careful during set up but then you just run the update command once a week(or whenever) with 0 hassle.
As the other anon, I also used to have issues upgrading between versions (*buntu and fedora) so I would just have to reinstall everything every time at the end. Even if Home is on another partition it kinda feels like a waste.

>>105586297
>full of issues that are outside of what you usually encounter
What issues?

>>105586275
WHAAAAA? i thought ubuntu LTS, was supposed to be the gold standard of just werks in linux? i mean, the regular 6 month release i can understand having problems, because they're just beta testing for the next LTS. but LTS itself being unreliable? fug. why is computing so shit and gay now??????

>>105586372
I just searched for atomic distros on youtube and watched the top 5 or so videos.
No reason to list their claims as it is not mine. You can consider watching them if you care.
If you have personal experience using one, then anecdotal experience would be much appreciated.

>>105586379
>>105586275
Ubuntu LTS isn't meant to be upgraded. It's a distro for businesses and businesses almost always just do clean installs.

>>105586414
The IT guy at businesses manually installs each new LTS on each machine every 2 years? Wow what a headache. What about people's personalizations, their program configs, their Firefox bookmarks etc? Their actual documents I can imagine are on the server not on their local machine. Still, that seems awfully inconvenient for all involved.

I'm about to completely wipe Windows/Debian dual-boot and just install Plucky.
Tired of running out of disk space. Tired of having to curate my own experience and wondering if I'm doing it right e.g. trying to make laptop audio sound as good on Linux as it does on Windows.
I'll probably just end up going back to just Windows like a total cuck, but let's see.

>>105582536
>wayland has nothing like that for my knowledge
.profile

>When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable.

>>105586891
>What about people's personalizations, their program configs, their Firefox bookmarks etc?
The home directory is transferable.
>manually installs each new LTS on each machine every 2 years
Funnily enough, yes for work machines. Actually, it's more likely to happen once every 3-4 years or so instead of every 2 years.
But, Ubuntu LTS is more commonly found on servers. Where it gets redeployed from a clean install not once every 2 years, but often once every week or month.
>inconvenient
Everything is automated. Devops has evolved a lot in the 21st century.

>>105586127
>will ubuntu LTS be less break-prone
The point of LTS distros like Ubuntu and RHEL is that things are mostly kept the same throughout a release, thus making it less "break-prone". For RHEL (Alma, etc) the same application binaries will work throughout the major release (5-10 years). The same kernel modules will work throughout a minor release (6 months). I don't really know how it works with Ubuntu, but I know they offer a stable "GA" kernel which is not enabled by default.

>>105587270
But yes, to make a point - LTS basically means: if something works already then it will most likely keep on working. It doesn't necessarily mean that things will work at all to begin with.

>>105580969
DeaDBeeF seems to be the only viable option for the more obscure formats besides foobar2000 in wine, which I get crackling audio with.

>>105586954
Is this a bad idea? Should I stick to Debian?

>>105587723
i don't know what plucky is

>>105587781
Ubuntu

>>105587723
Just go with Mint ffs.

>>105587781
>>105587796
oh a ubuntu codename, i lost track of those a while ago

>>105587796
I'm not into Mint. The choices are:
- Debian (Trixie+Sid)
- Ubuntu 25.04 (Plucky)
- Windows 10
- Windows 11

>>105567135
Fuck all that useless crap. Use the damn package manager.

>ask question in "friendly" gnu/linux thread
>no replies
>ask question in friendly windows thread
>get friendly answers and advice

>>105587818
You just said you're tired of tinkering. Debian and Ubuntu still need that while Mint just works. As much as audio just works for any distro anyway.

>>105587851
maybe nobody who saw the post knew the answer?

>>105580969
Audacious works for me

>>105587863
>tinkering
Debian I would agree. But Ubuntu? It's the most just works distro ever. How does Ubuntu need tinkering? I don't care about Snap as long as it works and I don't consider a one-time enabling of Flathub as tinkering.
>audio
Laptop audio doesn't just work. Have tried on multiple laptops. Sounds like crap compared to Windows. For Bluetooth and big speakers sure, it just works.

>>105587880
So your saying you dumb or something

>>105588114
no, that's not what i'm saying

>>105587851
>ask question in friendly windows thread
>saar please reinstall wangblows

How do I configure KDE Plasma touchpad? Four-finger swiping hurts my hand after a while. I want three-finger swiping like every other OS.

>>105588399
what do you mean by swiping?

>>105588446
When you swipe up/down in Plasma to see thumbnails of all open windows/workspaces.

New thread:
>>105588468

New, non-troll thread:
>>105588494

>>105588471
>previous thread is from almost 10 day ago
KWAB

>>105588471
>>105588504
Stop with the two fucking threads, idiots

>>105588711
I tried deleting >>105588504, but it's too old.

>>105588739
Oops:
s/105588504/105588494/

>>105587270
>thus making it less "break-prone"
This only applies to environments which don't want any feature updates and rely on non-changing system APIs and libraries. For example, servers.
As far as desktops are concerned, LTS is often less stable than rolling release due to how fast user-facing software is updated.