Why do AMD GPUs get so much hate?

>>105576582 (OP)
bad at AI, bad at RT, bad at upscaling

>>105576582 (OP)
It is just the noise of ass-pained Nvidiot poor-fags. They are crying and seething that AMD RTG is refusing to do hemorrhaging price wars to force Nvidia's hand.
>>105576593
>bad at AI
Not really, also a non-factor for vast majority of graphics card
>bad at RT
Everybody sucks at RT, it is simply too taxing. Gayming-tier RT is shitty copium. RT still should remain in the professional graphics world.
>bad at upscaling
Upscaling is 100% copium and ass. "PCMR-types" used to rail on "console pleasants" for being hard-stuck on upscaling. Until Nvidia was forced to resort it for their shitty RT gayming implementation.

>>105576582 (OP)
Not sure. I love mine.

>>105576800
>RT still should remain in the professional graphics world.

GPU RT performance affects professional 3D software as well.

>>105576582 (OP)
Their CEO is trans, so it's just the usual bigotry.

>>105576582 (OP)
Because it's jeet-ware pushed by kikes and troons. What isn't there to hate? They basically hate chuds and exist to try to own them.

>>105576593
I have a 7900 XTX and it runs LLMs with ollama at an OK speed and I'm pretty sure it's the cheapest card with 24 GB VRAM. I'm a massive retard though, so take my opinion on AI with a grain of salt.

>>105576593
>bad at AI
zero negatives there

>>105576582 (OP)
They've been literally unable to compete for like a decade is why.

>>105576582 (OP)
https://gizmodo.com/nvidia-shills-on-hardware-forums-152901

>>105576582 (OP)
Surprisingly a lot of people with AMD hardware still run legacy platforms that aren't using RadV for some reason.

>>105577419
They don't even use the hardware and software in the professional space.

>>105576593
>bad at things that don't actually make my games run better at native res
Ok, and? You might as well have said "they're bad at making you a faggot."
We really listing off net positives as something that's bad now?

>>105577846
kek even back then nshittia was being AIDS in their web presence

they don't like to be reminded about getting scammed

>>105579170
>no 980ti or 1080ti

>>105576582 (OP)
>Why do AMD GPUs get so much hate?
AMD owners are obnoxious.

years and years of propaganda

It burns my hands.

>>105579681
Maxwell and Pascal were not out in 2012

>>105579715
your hotspot delta is way out of hand. what did it look like after repasting?

>>105579816
The other image shows GTX 1050ti and 960 so what the fuck are you on about?

>>105579715
this pic is from radeon settings with tuning enabled, you just disabled the GPU fan and made the fan curve minimum

>>105576582 (OP)
driver fixes often take way too long. Nvidia will fix even niche bugs fairly quickly (at least they used to)

frankly amd's biggest mistake was RDNA( thanks raja), despite the improvements, the biggest loss was their driver stability, after 10 years on gcn , they had managed to have pretty darn stable drivers, rdna1 comes along and it was all wiped out, the 5700xt is by far the buggiest amd card in a long time, probably worse than the r600 on launch day, even rdna4 which is much better, is still unstable for many applications. on top of that , amd struggles to sell these cards for workstation because they didn't have ROCM support until the last year or so, and many rdna cards still don't work out of the box, its a certified nightmare.

>>105579856
We are comparing the 2012 heavy hitters Kepler "Epic Fail" 680, and GCN 1.0 Radeon HD 7970
The tests were ran in 2020

RDNA4
>has access to gamescope
>can be incredibly efficient
>has access to FSR4
the good

>ROCm tools are bloatware
>amdsmi sucks dick
>wants to boost beyond idle clocks in linux
>can't set upper clock speed on windows
>windows resets undervolt, power limits & fan speed constantly thanks to le ebin gaymer software suite
>9070 & XT prices are literally fake
>9060 XT pricing will be fake once it sells out
yeah.....

Azor's an asshole.
Su's a sycophant for her cousin.
They're compromised and have been trying to emulate nvidia too much over the last few years.
Every piece of goodwill they've built up over the last decade will be chipped away at systematically, remember everything good you've heard about their software, tools or even bios editing & undervolting and take it with a grain of salt knowing that it will be taken away.
They're the same as nvidia. The only reason I have their card right now, and will say I fell for the memes: I don't get the choice to stay on windows and James Jones deserves to be systematically removed from our solar system. Strapped to a rocket and launched beyond ultima thule.

>>105579827
I returned it (twice).

>>105579861
Nah, it's just a stock 7900 XTX.

>>105579992
Vertical mount?

>>105580007
Kinda, since it was in an ITX build. However, it was IO facing upwards. Regular ATX vertical mount would've worked around the manufacturing defect. Regular ATX horizontal mount would've also overheated.

>>105580020
The vapor chamber didn't work in non standard mounting positions. There is a video on der8auer's channel.

>>105579930
Are you currently running doom eternal with a 7970 or 680?

>>105580040
This is the only orientation where the GPU wouldn't overheat.

>>105580044
No I haven't played that game
You just reminded me I have a broken 780 that needs selling

>>105580060
so what is the point of the slide? That a current game runs better on a GPU nobody still uses over a different GPU which nobody still uses?

>>105580077
Yes

>>105580077
not that guy but I think the point anon, is that the hardware wasn't actually all that bad, also I knew of at least 1 person who hung on to their 7970 until ~2022.

>>105576582 (OP)
>why does 4chan hate /insert anything/?
welcome newfriend

>>105580093
I had a HD7950 and couldn't wait to get shut of it. I moved to SLI 670s

>>105580092
and what about current GPUs?

They don't.

>>105580233
Too early to judge. Let's see in 3 years.

Shitty software is AMD's biggest problem.
Completely unironically, AMD should purge all of their software teams and poach as many mesa/wine/llvm people as they can. They should have had seamless CUDA interop 10 years ago at latest.

>>105580237
3 years? Why would anyone care how an old GPU runs in 3 years?

>>105580280
People who bought one I imagine.

>>105580466
>it doesn't count how they perform now. but just you wait, in 15 years time I'll be able to run a game at ultra-low settings and you won't
it's a very strange win

>>105580480
If you pay $500 for a fancy electronic toy you probably expect it to work for longer than the warranty period.

>>105580480
AMD owners are poorfags/conscious buyers. Of course it makes sense to buy one if there's a promise of running something @low ten years from now.
Right now, these GPUs are fair. 9060X rivals 7900XT at RT, that's a win in my book bc I want a video card for my mATX cube setup.

>>105576996
>32 gigorinnos
>still swaps
un.. gnusters?..

>can't go above 80% of its theoretical limit
>Less features
>More software and hardware bugs
>Suck at ray tracing

Doesn't worth the lesser price.

>>105580508
functionally working , yes. But performing? Who cares? If you can't afford a new gaming GPU every 1 or 2 generations then you're in the wrong hobby.

>>105580538
Buying things is not a hobby. It's a necessary evil to get new toys to overclock.

>>105580631
did you actually type that out and think it didn't sound retarded?

>>105579922
Nah, RDNA1's issues were from hardware bugs that AMD didn't caught until it long after it had taped-out and units were in production. AMD were far too aggressive on power saving. RDNA1 silicon were shitting themselves during low utilization after coming back from high utilization (a.k.a closing out a game). The black screens are common symptom of a bad undervolt or overclocking when the silicon isn't getting enough juice to keep stable. AMD tried to patch it with software updates but software can only do much to address hardware bugs. They fixed this with RDNA2 which never had the issues.

They don't. It just doesn't make sense to buy one unless you're on Linux, want raw performance over features, or are on a budget. Nvidia GPUs have more features, better support, ecosystem, and drivers that helps you cope with the price. I'd never buy a $1,000+ AMD GPU. Under $600? I'd probably go AMD. Ideally Intel but I'm not sure about Arc yet.

>>105583124
Think about how easy it would be for nvidia to gain even more market share if they'd have the balls to fire James Jones.
They could have a working linux driver that's functional and compatible with software that matters without breaking every other release and all they realistically need to do is fund that same driver team for 4 years and show what it was they stole during the Pascal era and have plausible deniability.
Yes, unfortunately people on older cards would be poised to stay with their current GPUs as they would now just werk in linux, but their old cards would also still be VRAM timebombs so they'd win on both fronts.
>It just doesn't make sense to buy one unless you're on Linux.
If you remove this as the reason to buy an AMD card then the last two really don't matter, since AMD are also leaving the budget segment of the market slowly too with fake MSRPs. Yes, the 9060 XT is around the perform of a 5060 Ti but once those price increases kick in, they'll be neck and neck.

Literally all Huang has to do is find the Puerto Rican menace and hand him a cardboard box for his things and he can have the linux desktop marketshare in 4-6 years. It's a sound investment and it would cost him less than it did to pay for that Floridian dinner.

>>105580668
all hardware has bugs, and they require work arounds rdna 1 today is far more stable than launch, but like i said issues persist to this day on all rdna hardware.

>>105576593
>bad at crutches for aaa baseddevs and publishers minimizing time to market for their dogshit rushed games
kek

but to answer ops question

amd has historically been bad at Starsector's graphics/shader lib mod

>>105576582 (OP)
Nvidia has been known to pay shills to shitpost for over 20 years.
Also, gamers have always been oddly tribalistic to their hardware. Console wars have been going on since Atari was still relevant.

>>105576582 (OP)
I only hate AMD GPUs because AMD didn't release high end GPU and I was FORCED to buy nvidia.

>>105584362
>Nvidia has been known to pay shills to shitpost for over 20 years.
Bullshit, nvidia has a loyal fan base of people that probably at some point got burned by cheaping out and buying AMD at some point. Not to mention that all of the e-daddies, youtubers, and rebbitors are all blindly parroting about AMD being good, there's gotta be money going to them if they're willing to sacrifice their audience for those AMD shillbucks.

>>105584403
>marketshare
jewserbenchmark is such an embarrassment with his amd hateboner that intel themselves even had to come out and publicly denounce his faggotry

>>105584403
>probably at some point got burned by cheaping out and buying AMD at some point
Literally my story with Palit which desoldered itself despite having an Accelero Xtreme on it, the triple slot monster.

>>105584499
>more people speak chinese
I wonder if that's because there are more chinese people?

>>105584529
Reminds me of this: https://hardforum.com/threads/nvidia-bumpgate-comes-full-circle-how-to-get-your-settlement-money-inside.1550848/

>>105584403
>Bullshit
No, it's been confirmed that Nvidia employed shills. Look up the Nvidia Focus Group.
https://web.archive.org/web/20150703202942/https://consumerist.com/2006/02/06/did-nvidia-hire-online-actors-to-promote-their-products/
It would be naive or disingenuous to say that they've stopped using methods like that.
That's not to say paid Nvidia shills are the main reason for why people shit on AMD, but they certainly help in swaying people's opinions. And there's likely some people employed on AMD's side too, they just haven't as blatant as the Nvidia Focus Group.

>>105584538
t. clueless about chinese gaming culture

Those are all internet cafe users

>>105584544
going back 15 whole years to make a point.
Still not going to buy AMD , sorry

>>105584558
Are you trying to make a point here or just disagreeing with everything?

>>105584559
The original post in the chain specified a timeframe of 20 years you fucking disingenuous niggerfaggot. Besides, it's a fucking cartel and neither company is deserving of any of our money. They're holding us all hostage via brain chemistry levers they have gamed out.

https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/09/nvidia-offers-settlement-for-suits-alleging-gpu-price-fixing/

Get a fucking clue, retard.

>>105584570
>applying chinese bug hive net cafe metrics to western users

>>105576582 (OP)
the major problem with AMD is not hardware, it's software.

also AMD could get NVIDIA by doing what NVIDIA doesn't want to do, but instead, some AMD executive said that there's no use for a card with more than 8GB for consumers. what you get from it? AMD wants to be NVIDIA, and that's it.

>>105584602
>neither company is deserving of any of our money.
oh the drama.
Shut up faggot. Nobody is forcing you to buy anything. People can spend however they wish without some dumb jumped up cunt trying to decide for them.
Go back to playing games on a console or iGPU see if anyone gives a fuck

>>105584651
>NOOOOOOO YOU CANT JUST POINT OUT THEY ARE COLLUDING AND ALWAYS HAVE BEEN MY BRAND BETTER THAN THAT BRAND

>>105584666
>not buying AMD
>It's a huge conspiracy , that GPU company is trying to sell you GPUs so you should hate everything and be a miserable twat like I am

>>105584675
>The truth is so bad that you WILL be miserable if you don't stick your head in the sand
not my problem. steel yourself child

>>105584717
I'm not buying AMD. Go throw your tantrums elsewhere

>>105584732
Cultist enjoy your rebranded 8800

>>105584748
>rebranded 8800

>>105584901
not that guy but
the geforce 8800 got 2 die shrinks, g80 to g92 and then the g92b, rebranded 2x

>>105584602
>it's a fucking cartel and neither company is deserving of any of our money
Correct.
The only reason that you can't escape them currently if you're actually looking for an upgrade is:
B580 is only 12GB. 24GB B60 is workstation only, off in the future. Equivalent to the x80 of Turing with a slight VRAM upgrade is in essence a sidegrade for people who waited 3-4 GPU gens to upgrade.
Chinese GPUs aren't there yet.

There's a vacuum for people who want away from both nvidia & AMD. Intel can offer you it on Linux if you're willing to travel back in time to 2018 but that's not going to leave you happy with 4k60 on NieR Automata. However if you want something modern you're forced to look at AMD who are going to fuck you over, or Nvidia who will fuck you over buy you'll be cool.

Intel don't even have to be too scrappy either since the x70 class of cards is unobtanium, bad vlue of nerfed to shit and back.
The x60 XT/Ti 16GB class of cards is only 125-140% better at best, so all it says is they couldn't compete on performance per dollar against the blackwell x60 Ti which is already in the fucking gutter or they thought they'd get BTFO.
Yet there's this massive performance gap between something like the RDNA 4 x60 XT & x70 that shows how screwed the market is and how any third party fitting into that space could have pulled ahead.

>>105577675
>zero negatives there