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>Keyboard recommendation template:
https://pastebin.com/n220xk9V

>Find vendors
https://www.alexotos.com/keyboard-vendor-list // Up-to-date list of reputable vendors with brief descriptions
https://keycaplendar.firebaseapp.com // Tracker for current and upcoming keycap group buys

>This keyboard stuff is so expensive!
https://aliexpress.com (or Taobao if you know how)

>Learn about Cherry MX switches
https://rentry.org/mkg_switches // Introductory guide
https://www.theremingoat.com // Switch reviews
https://www.switchesdb.com // Compare force curves

>Split and non-standard layout resources
https://compare.splitkb.com
https://keyboard-design.com

>What does ______ do to a keyboard's sound?
https://blacksimon.tv/science (Google sheet)

>Practice typing
https://monkeytype.com
https://www.keybr.com
https://thetypingcat.com
https://play.typeracer.com

>How Cherry switches do backlighting, and why it's not ideal
https://rentry.org/mkg_backlight

After 1 year of ten finger I am almost back up to my two finger max of 105wpm.

feels good man

>>105581866 (OP)
After a couple months, I think I made the right choice going with the FSSK instead of the F104. But if Ellipse ever introduced a southpaw 104 (numpad on the left), I'd fucking cave and buy that in a heartbeat. The standard numpad still being on the right is a vestigial trait of the pre-mouse days and conflicts directly with having a mouse on the right side.

Also, sex with racist foxes.

>>105581866 (OP)
sex
with fox

>>105582586
>>105584728

>>105581866 (OP)
Fox keyboard.

>>105581866 (OP)
what's a switch type that DOESN'T press by simply having my fingers rest on the keys? I got some ultra cheap mechanical that does this and it's really annoying

for me its split 40%s

Man, of all the other /mkg/ threads that died early this one deserves it the most. Furfags get the rope

>>105584923
Just use a switch with heavier springs.

>>105584923
Model M and F, unironically. Their click IS the actuation.

>>105585412
Averi is fine, she's actually cute unlike most other furfags, and her creator is racist

>>105584923
Mister heavy ass hands here
Do you have any description of the keyboard besides it being cheap?

Use case for going deaf from typing?

What is the science behind switch housing materials and sound? Like if there's a switch I like the feel of but hate the sound, can I salvage it by putting it inside a different housing

furry OP is more likely to keep the thread alive, I'm sorry to say

>>105587102
True, it's an excuse to post cute foxes and it's more attention-grabbing than KeyboardOfTheWeek.png

>>105586582
concrete saw, type while one is right next to your head

>>105587102
>furry OP is more likely to get thread deleted
janny is a niggerlover that hates averi thoughbeit

>Was using a cherry mx brown Logitech G710+ for about a decade
>Switched to a cherry mx brown Corsair K70
>Keys still take far less pressure to press
>Thought I might get used to it over time, but after a year I still make mistakes because of that
What's a key type that requires more pressure than a cherry brown? I definitely dodged a bullet by not getting one of their "lightspeed" keyboards.

Please explain to me the downside of 3d printed PLA keycaps, I don't care about looks

>>105588198
If you can get past the texture not being nearly as good as injection molded keycaps then go for it. PLA's also not as good of a plastic for keycaps as PBT.

https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/

>>105586369
patriot viper v730 imported from russia by someone for $15

What's a normal price for a custom pbt keycap set on cherry stems? 81 keys. Dye sub.
My favorite vtuber has a set but it seems monstrously expensive.

Can someone tell me a little bit of their experience about the Keychron Banana switches, I used to have a MX Brown keeb, currently running MX Blue keeb. I want to buy hot-swappable, but obviously I don't want to instantly take the switches out and spend on replacement.
Mostly worried about the shorter travel Bananas have compared to Browns.

>>105581866 (OP)
Is there a noticeable difference between the Neo 80, QK 80 (apart from led) or Bridge 75 to warrant the price differences?

Is there any other HE wireless keyboards outside of wooting?

>>105581866 (OP)
Stop posting foxporn.

>>105590616
Ajazz680maxhe has 8K over wireless.

>>105591016
>Ajazz680maxhe
>50 bucks
damn that's a pretty good price. I was expecting something in the hundreds at least.

How do I get my keyboard to sound like mahjong tiles?

>>105589427
Normal price should be $20-45. XMI, Shenpo, and JC Studio are all quite good. $20 sets may be noticeably worse.

>>105588128
Maybe try Cherry clears? They're heavier tactiles.

>>105592005
I would love to see someone make keycaps from bone. Would be incredibly expensive I'm sure.

>>105592005
Maybe get some of those ceramic keycaps and put them in a board with a metal chassis?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C67Mn6Vbcm0

>>105587190
Actually I meant because it would provoke arguments about furries racism etc., which would probably keep the thread bumped because for some reason people don't get tired of having the same arguments over and over.

A well-cropped keyboard photo that works as a thumbnail is attention-grabbing enough, and sometimes can get a normal /g/ user interested. I don't think this OP will do that.

>>105586582
no more having to hear the nagging wife

>>105592435
This one is $120 lmfao. Even with merch mark-up holy fuck haha. This is from infinikeys

>>105593005
oh my bad I misread your post, haven't had my coffee yet this morning. custom is gonna be expensive and probably shit as well, but I don't actually know.

I'm looking to get a new keyboard, I used to have an 8BitDo keyboard, C64 edition with box whites.

Budget: $250

Location: US

Preferred switch type: I used to run with Cherry Blues, but I'm starting to get tired of the constant clicking. I'd like tactile switches, I used to have a custom board with Gateron Browns, but I was thinking something along the lines of Holy Panda or JWK Tactiles. Also had a friend recommend MMD Princess switches, which are apparently holy panda adjacent.

Layout: ISO

Form factor: 100% - 80%

Backlight: I don't really care about a backlight, with or without is fine

Also, I'd like to have a volume knob if possible

>>105596063
used to? those things haven't been around that long, what happened?

>>105596629
Roommate spilled Dr. Pepper on it

is TMR the ultimate keyboard technology?

>>105597632
I hope you slapped that faggot

>>105598166
They're paying for the new one

>>105584923
With hall effect switches you can adjust at what point switches activate in software.

I miss her

Any mechanical keyboard that takes AA batteries?

Sexy fox in needs of fluffing

What do you guys do with your stickers? I have like 30 of them since every vendor includes them with your purchase, not that I'm complaining
>>105600023
Agreed

kind of a dumb question. if i set up a keyboard through via on 1 pc, does that config save and work on another pc?

>Budget
£250

>Location
UK

>Preferred switch type
Currently using Cherry Browns and I'm happy with them.

>Layout
ISO

>Form factor
75%-ish

>Backlight
Not too concerned either way.

>Previous/current keyboards
Keychron Q1

I've thought about getting a split board for ergonomics at my desk, but I've never used one before. Interested to hear about people's experiences with them. I'm partly concerned about changing layout too much from my laptop since I use the built-in keyboard quite often, so maybe I don't really want something that strays too far into custom layout territory.

I've seen the ZSA boards (like the moonlander), and they look cool, but I'm not familiar with other brands / options. I like mech keyboards, but I'm not really an enthusiast, so I'm not interested in a DIY build. If Keychron split a Q1 in half, I'd probably just switch to that.

>found my perfect keyboard
>its only sold on taobao or 200$+ due to resellers
anyone know of a keyboard that looks like pic related or similar? main thing i'm looking for is the rounded case aesthetic, double color, and no adjustable feet. Budget is 100$, but I don't mind going up a bit.

>>105601113
I put them in the garbage like a normal person

>>105601758
Looks like a bear75. I see a shop called nouvolo selling it, but pink is sold out.

>>105596063
I'd get a Neo80 with a couple plate options for $160ish, Shenpo beige caps for $35, then spend the remaining budget on switches. Between four mounting options and two plate options (maybe alu and PC) you should be able to find a combination that suits you.

I'd make sure to get the wired PCB so you can make changes to the QMK firmware if the switches need more generous debounce timing, as heavy tactiles sometimes do

>>105601585
What's the consensus on the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard (60 or 80)?

>>105602047
The only good keyboard with "hacking" in the name is HHKB. If you really want a split board without any diy like the corne/iris/lily58 you can find on ali, get the qk duo.

>>105601585
I think if the keyboards are different enough the difference won't be a problem. It's very painful to do e.g. ansi and iso, or normal backspace and hhkb backspace, because they're otherwise so similar that it's hard to remember to use them differently. But it's not gard to go from a regular keyboard to an iphone keyboard, because it's a completely different thing. If you do go for a split it might be a good opportunity to try a different layout as well.

Anyway if you stick with the familiar a Neo75cu with mx2a browns and alu plate would probably sound very good, might fit the budget.

>>105602136
Also the "DIY" on a board like this is really more like assembling IKEA furniture—not a big deal.

>>105594912
nice

>>105601443
yes, it's saved on the board's side

usecase of keys?

How can you describe the tradeoff between switches with lower force with normal travel and higher force with less travel? Right now, I use Cherry MX Silver.
-HMX Vintage Citrus: 48/53g, 1.0/3.0mm
-WS Yellow Arowana: 32/37g. 2.0/3.6mm
-Outemu Lime V3: 35/45g, 1.8/3.3mm, tactile

>>105601986
>nouvolo
>40$ for shipping on a 130$ product
damn, but at least now I know where to get it. thanks

thoughts on monokey boards? my workflow has increased massively since i switch to a 87-layer layout

>>105602072
Thanks! What are the issues with the UHK?

QK duo looks good - I'll add it to the shortlist.

>>105602159
Yeah, that's a fair point. If I find one that ticks all the boxes, I'll consider a DIY.

>>105600003
HHKB

TopreGODS, how are we?

lads help a retard out, how do I speed up scroll here

>>105601963
Soulless retard

Mechanical keyboards are so good these days, I'm feeling nostalgic about all the awful, overpriced gaming mechanical keyboards by the likes of Razer and Corsair.

why is this allowed

>>105602005
Why would the solderable PCB be different from a hot swappable one? I'm not against it, is there a different firmware on the PCB's?

>>105603384
sauce on those images?

>>105604383
nta but
https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/20993015/illustrations/averi
(they're AI sloppa so you'll need to enable seeing them in your settings if you have it disabled)

>>105604464
>they're AI sloppa
ah nevermind then

>>105604464
ai sloppa is better than furry merishart artists by 1000 orders of magnitude

>>105604908
nah

>>105604950
seething amerishart detected

>>105605091
saar

go split guys, this shit isn't a meme
it's so much better

>>105604325
I just said wired. There's a wired hotswap, just don't go tri-mode

>>105606426
Based and split-pilled

How do I stop double typing? I'm pretty certain it's my typing technique because I've tested it with deliberate key presses on the switch itself and it never does it.

>>105607526
First try increasing your debounce time to eliminate chatter as a possible cause.

>>105607619
Yeah, I set it at 30ms to see if it'd help, but like I said when I hit just the switch deliberately repeatedly trying to replicate it it doesn't happen. It's just when I'm naturally typing. It's any character too, not just keys with stabs.

>>105607696
Dunno what to tell you then, haven't heard of double-typing that wasn't caused by switch chatter before.

>first time buying a custom keyboard
>$58 in total
i know its chink shit but some basic research tells me this should be ok... right?
>also thinking of buying 10 silent peach switches for the most used gaming keys

>>105607863
Weird, it happens to me fairly often. It's annoying.

How do 65% owners deal with F1 keys? There's no space to even fit both canc and either home/end at the same time

>>105581866 (OP)
my wife :3

>come here to discuss keyboards
>thread filled with middle aged men who think they are anthropomorphic women

>>105608161
I deliberately do not want F keys because I keep accidentally hitting them
I put Home/End on my mouse

>>105581866 (OP)
>Keyboard recommendation template
The logitech keyboard I was hoping to import costs more than 200€ so I thought I might as well buy a real mechanical one hopefully for slightly less
>Budget
<=150€
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
No idea. First time buyer. Ideally something silent
>Layout
ANSI en_US (no Intl)
>Form factor
65% (70% if too much of a pain)
>Backlight
Something simple but required
>Previous/current keyboards
Only ever used cheap keyboards and laptops

Are mechanical keyboards compatible with usb-c hubs? I'd like to connect it to the one inside my monitor so I can simply swap thunderbolt cable from laptop to laptop

>>105608302
Oh and I forgot to mention that I like to regularly use pgup/pgdn/home/end/canc. I know this makes things harder but I've seen some keyboards squeezing an extra column like this

Anyone know where to find keycaps with the legends on the bottom edge of the keys for south side leds? Every time I put south into search engines I get side printed ones only.

>>105608521
You can probably find 'em if you search 'stealth keycaps' on aliexpress or something.

>>105608521
Drop was selling black (shadow), white (snow) and silver.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-keycap-set (sold out)
Now they're doing international versions.
https://drop.com/buy/drop-dcl-shadow-international-keycap-set

>>105608600
those are side printed
>>105608553
those are close but i want shine through like pic related. i also do not want to pay $85 for pic related but it seems only one company on the planet makes south facing legends for south facing led keyboards for some retarded reason.

Going to get a keychron v6 max
Do I get red, silent red or brown?

>>105609446
you are probably the brown type

>>105607929
outemu lemon as very mushy. also double-check that you're getting stabs with that barebone kit, if not you'll need to buy some

and if you're going for silent you'd better not cheap out on stabs. bad stabs will ruin a silent build

>>105609910
From the blurb and this image it looks like it does.
>mushy
what do you mean by this?

>>105610356
The feel of the stem striking against the bottom housing is not satisfying because the soft silicone they use to dampen it feels too soft. Some silent switches strike a better balance where quietness doesn't come at the expense of feeling like that

>>105606426
>>105607123
what's the best price/quality concave split keyboard option considering i'm a noob and don't want to spend too much on my first one?

>>105613166
Absolute dirt cheapest way would be to 3D print the case yourself (assuming you have access to a printer) and handwire it. Hand wiring is a pain in the ass though; I have plenty of PCBs I could sell that make building it way less tedious.

My outemu switches finally came today, but I decided against clipping the plastic pins to fit my 3 pin kb and I went ahead and ordered a cheap kit off AliExpress.

Any good brands that I can look into? I just need a TKL with an audio knob. Currently have a Ducky and I hate the caps led placement.

>>105614009
Ok so I found Akko and Keychron at around the same brand, do these brands just come down to design and switches or is there more to them?

On a dactyl, what row keys should you use for the thumb cluster? I'm using SA keycaps

>>105614768
R3 would make most sense.

>Budget
<$250
>Location
US
>Preferred switch type
Not too picky, preferably tactile and something not too loud
>Layout
Don't care that much. Will default to ANSI but if JIS is an option might go with that due to interest in that language
>Form Factor
75% at minimum
>Backlight
Don't care
>Previous/Current
Some Razer Blackwidow I got for christmas a few years ago that is now kinda worn out and likes to double press keys when I only press them once sometimes, before that only cheap membranes

How retarded would this matrix be? 13+11 would leave me with two GPIOs on RP2040 in case i fuck something up.

>>105614931
You could try one of the duplex matrices mentioned here instead:
https://kbd.news/The-Japanese-duplex-matrix-1391.html

>>105615025
>Unfortunately, for most keyboard firmware, you have to write your own matrix scanning algorithm for this to work, e.g. to rewrite the matrix.c file in QMK.
Sounds cool, but far outside my ballpark.

>>105615085
The western duplex doesn't need such shenanigans though.

>>105614888
neo75 cu for $200, gat g pro 3.0 browns on ali for ~$18, remaining $30 on keycaps

There's this Keychron keyboard that I like but it only comes with these gateron switches. With prebuilt boards like these, can you replace the switches with your own cherrys?

>>105616935
You'll really have to find out what model it is to get your answer. Keychron offers both hotswap and "fixed" boards, and they have a lot of options.

>>105616935
Assuming the board is hotswap, then yes.

Why do people like aluminum boards so much? What if you get shocked

>>105616964
People like heavy, metal things. Static shock is really not an issue.

>>105616964
>Why do people like aluminum boards so much?
They're heavy and they sound a bit different

>>105616964
If you want to embrace the sound of your switches instead of stifling them, they help amplify the sound. Also, more weighty and sturdy than a plastic chassis without being ridiculously heavy for a board (unless it's very thick of course).

>>105613166
Look up Maltron. Their ergo boards pop up from time to time on the second hand market for around 100 or less and are pretty nice. They use handwired Cherry black linears though and have plastic cases, so if that's not you thing you might need to look at stuff like >>105613653. 3d print or get a farm to print your case and then do wire/diode wrapping on the switch terminals to an arduino which you can flash with a pre-done code library with no soldering required.

>>105616935
Check for hotswap. If it's not listed you would need to desolder the switches and solder in your desired ones which shouldn't be too difficult with practice

>>105617662
>aluminum
>not the vril infused power of 304 sheet metal

How important is tenting on a split board?

>>105618742
Not that important, but it's easy to do even with non-tented split boards. It's mostly a marketing thing honeslty.

>>105618742
if pronation is a source of pain then definitely go for it, 30 degrees seems to be the sweet spot

>>105618752
Thanks!

>>105618765
Primary reason I'm thinking about a split board is to open my shoulders. I haven't really had issues with RSI. Sounds like I won't need tenting.

Has someone made an alternative to beamsprings yet? (and no I don't want newmodelf's shitty reproductions)

>>105618823
That's really your only answer, anon.

i want a new keyboard
something thats easy to clean and has the non-tactile and non-clicky, like a Cherry MX Red.
what do i get

The irrational desire to buy more expensive keyboards I don't need...

>>105618823
lol good luck. ellipse is your only option unless you can convince someone else to liaise with several chinese factories into making what you want and forking out a shitload of cash for all the tooling and whatnot.

>>105602750
My Realforce got fucked by a drop of juice, lmao.

>>105619344
RIP. For how long have you been using it?

>>105619379
Was only like a year or so. I did like the keyfeel.

Been rocking a Filco Majestouch 2 TKL with mx-blues for over a decade now. Thing just won't break, so I'm stuck with this pingy mf. :D Foam mod or something would probably dampen the acoustics.

boba u4 is basically topre but good, dont @ me

>>105619666
Ok satan.

>>105601585
Keychron has an ISO version of Q11

>>105601113
Ive started putting all kinds of stickers on my garbage bin. Sticker bombed garbage bin of all the slop ive consumed

>>105604908
true
>>105604950
Sounds like you haven't overdosed on AI cunny of every flavor and intensity.

>practicing typing on monkeytype with my new split
>realizing 70% of English sits on left side of the keyboard
very strange... Starting to get people who move away from qwerty

>>105619077
evo80

>>105619035
>>105619212
No, I refuse to give that guy money. Especially with how fragile his reproductions are (along with his ego).

>>105619344
>>105619666
Based.

>>105615097
Yeah, took me a night of sleep, but western duplex seems to be the way to go for an "optimal" build.

>kitten killed Niz plum with a cup of water
I got an epomaker alua 75 as a hold over/spare so when I get a new plum I'll have something usable in the closet incase.
I ordered some gateron oil kings for it, too.
How bad did I fuck up?

Not much, but it is mine.

I'm looking for a 100% keyboard, custom, wireless and RGB lighting, preferably hot swappable.

Keychron only allows to order fully assembled wireless 100%

Any recommendations?
I am comfortable with electronics and am not afraid to get dirty

>>105622895
Zoom98 comes pretty close, Meletrix has some in-stock. Unfortunately full size boards are a bit of a gap in the market right now.

Can I add a volume knob to any keyboard or does the board specifically need to be made to have one? There's this 75% that I like but no volume knob.

Has anyone ever bought used? I've never owned a Keychron before so I'm contemplating if $220 is even worth it for a Q model.

>>105624034
The answer depends on your skills.

(If you have to ask, the board must specifically be made to have one.)

>>105620714
well unfortunately you might have to make your own. given how expensive those were - they are the reason the model f succeeded it after all - you might never find an alternative

>>105618823
>Has somebody made X yet? other than the guy I hate more than death because his didn't meet my standards for price/customer service
It's going to be easier if you just admit to yourself that you don't actually want to buy one that badly. Everyone who actually wants one bought one from the only guy making them, in spite of any bad PR, because that's what you do when you want something badly enough.

>>105624144
I don't mind Keychron, personally - I have a few of their keyboards for my office and they're just fine. I will say this though, you can probably put together a better board for around the same price as a Q model if that's something you're interested in doing. I use a Keychron C1 pro at the office, it's a significantly more affordable kb while still being comfortable to type on.

>>105625995
pretty much what happened with me. not a fan of the way he runs his business, in fact i sympathise with that guy that regularly shits all over him on the deskthority model f thread. but i also really really wanted a new model f since in the ten years that i've kept an eye on this project, nobody else has yet to make one, so i bought it. and according to the few anons that've posted here about their model fs, he seems to have greatly improved the quality or consistency of boards ordered recently, compared to the earlier runs.

>>105622088
Nice. I'd suggest naming the switches SW[column #][row #] just to make things easier to remember & place when you're actually routing the PCB though.

How do I clean all the dandruff in my board

>>105626288
Use a brush + air blower.

Having flashbacks to when the kitten killed my ec keyboard with a cup of water a week ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvDvuILhGws

>>105620533
why that one

>>105626655
- has linear switch similar to mx red
- TKL layout that most people find acceptable
- very low price for a good aluminum keyboard, it's kind of a go-to recommendation even for someone without specific needs
- ball-catch case construction and magnetic pcb connector mean it's very easy to take apart in seconds, which means it's much easier to clean than most keyboards

>>105626725
this seems really nice. yes. actually quite perfect for what I'd like.
so the next question is, if not this, then what

Where do people buy keycaps?

>>105626832
>if not this, then what
There are comparable 'kits' where you supply the switches/keycaps yourself. There are also more expensive boards. But at this price point there isn't really anything quite like it for the same price. Except for the Wobkey Crush80, which is almost the same thing because it's more or less a knock-off. Not sure if that's still around

I hate the oil kings they are too heavy, I did fuck up. Back to amazon they go.

>>105626974
Can't be assed to swap the springs bro?

>>105626921
wow this is a $160~ keyboard. i'm understanding this is a great deal for what i'm getting, but i've only ever had membrane keyboards and spending $160 on a keyboard is a huge ask.
just for context I really place 'easy to clean' as a top priority because the last keyboard i had was a Steelseries Shift and i popped the thing right off to scrub it with a toothbrush whenever i felt it was too grimy, and i think the evo80 can do the exact same thing

>>105626007
>you can probably put together a better board for around the same price as a Q model
Barebone Keychron boards seem to run just a little bit cheaper, so wouldn't it be more cost effective to just buy the whole thing with switches and caps? Unless there was bareboard you were thinking of.

>>105626982
I didn't want to go down a rabbit hole of springs comparisons

>>105626974
Now try the Gateron Ghost.

>>105626995
>spending $160 on a keyboard is a huge ask.
please declare a budget next time

>>105627015
>rabbit hole
Heavy springs are heavier. Big number => more heavy
Long springs are heavier at the top, more consistent throughout.

>>105627293
okay, but i'll still buy this anyway. thanks for the rec

>>105627371
You're gonna be jazzed

>>105627371
Make sure to take out the stupid case foam when you get it. Idk why normies enjoy that garbage but it sounds gay and it actually ruins the bouncy feel of the leaf spring mount. Matter of taste I guess, just be aware you have this option.

Whether to take out the foam from between the pcb/plate is up to you, obviously that's more work (like 20mins) because you'd have to pull all the switches and then put them back in.

You can hear the difference with and without the foam (and with partial foam) in this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXmGvmLo7YY

>>105627446
I don't really know but I want the oat option instead of the azure option.

>>105581866 (OP)
fox?

>>105627455
I keep hearing good things about PP plates, haven't had the opportunity to try one yet

>>105627594
i'm simply going for the non-clicky, non-tactile linear feel and apparently the oat switches are more those than the azure.

>>105627604
They're both linears.

>>105627619
yea but the azure is kinda too noisy for my liking

Is Lucky65 v2 good

>>105628594
>65
no

I own a filco and leopold with brown switches and also V1 with brown switches. What should I buy next? 200 dollars or less preferred.

>>105626974
buy 67g springs now

>>105624701
If you can point me to a resource in how to make the fine metal leafs I probably could. I do already have a beamspring keyboard module I am in the process of restoring that was intially used as a system 38 display interface, so if I wanted to I could re-ecreate the switch housing and stem by taking measurements off of them for cad and then 3d print a prototype. Capitence pads could be doable too with a rudimentry pcb.

>>105625995
Not exactly my problem, I already have an original. The problem is the one I have is in a layout which is not really convient to me as a daily driver and it weighs a ton with the housing frame. It is not just PR, his build quality with his reproductions are shockingly poor for the price point. There is a reason why he shills spare parts constantly.

oh my GOD I hate soldering diodes so fucking much. I've never thought I had shaky hands but trying to keep these fucking things in place with tweezers while soldering them makes me feel like I have fucking parkinsons

>>105629409
I got you bro

>>105584826
fockz

>>105629409
I've soldered SOD-123 sized diodes before, tedious but not that hard with the right technique. The way I did it was by tinning one of the pads, placing the diode, then with tweezers in one hand & iron in the other, soldering one leg into place, then going back & soldering the other leg.

>>105629253
>If you can point me to a resource in how to make the fine metal leafs I probably could
that i have no idea how unfortunately. you'd probably have to reverse engineer from an existing switch or something

>>105588998
>F122
idontneedit i dont need it
I NEED IT I NEED IT

>>105630246
https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/product/classic-style-f122-model-f-keyboard/

You know what to do.

>>105630246
Trust me, you don't. You're better off just waiting for an old second hand model pop up for sale. Probably cheaper too.

>>105585204
>split 40%
So is that just two 20% boards?

>>105630246
buy an ad for your lindys shit, faggot

any silent magnetic switches?
my new magnetic kb is so goated but noisy as fuck

>>105631373
>any silent magnetic switches?
Most that I know of are non-mx vintage

hello! was looking into buying keycaps and is there a noticeable difference in feel between cherry and OEM keycap heights? current keyboard's got OEM heights and not really liking how high I feel like I have to rest my hands when typing.

>>105631805
No

>>105631853
darn. thanks anon

>>105631863
No problem

What are some heaviest and deepest actuation point switches available for neanderthal hands?

>>105631805
imo cherry is the sweet spot for height. OEM feels weird to me

>>105631805
>noticeable difference in feel between cherry and OEM keycap heights
Yes Cherry feels a little shallower in the center row, and a little more sculpted. It's not a difficult transition though, they're mostly very similar.

which Aula keyboard should I buy? just saw a lot of them on sale in Taobao

>>105632645
>>105632649
thanks for the input anons

What's the situation with hall effect keyboards and rapid trigger? Is it worth considering?
Every year there seems to be some new marketing gimmick to keep up with.

>>105632891
anything that isn't a 75% with a knob

>>105632891
My main keyboard is an F108 but I also have an F108 "Pro". Don't get the knob desu it doesn't do shit

CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG CLANG

I programmed the PgUp and PgDn keys for some controls, but there's this delayed page scroll after using the commands. Is there a way to shut down the default PgUp and PgDn keys?

>>105635910
I love it.

went ergo and now lost any interest in keyboards that are not split ergo. What should I build next that I can carry around with my laptop? not afraid of printing and soldering my own pcb.

>>105637359
One of those real thin splits with low profile switches like a corne or something.

>>105635910
I've been so thoroughly psyopped about "spring ping bad" with mx boards that I feel pain listening to any other kind of keyboard

>>105638322
Nothing wrong with disliking the sound of spring ping.

>>105638322
You remind me of that time a year ago where some anon was sperging on about how there was a noise difference in soldered and unsoldered switches. Keyboard autists really do seem to be prone to mx induced Havana Syndrome

>>105638452
>about how there was a noise difference in soldered and unsoldered switches.
There indisputably is a difference.* I've heard it.

*when the switches are not adequately snug in the plate, as does frequently happen unless you are very careful to only buy switches that run large

>day 100 of waiting for PBS blanks to restock in a non-shit color

>>105638537
I just want MTNU to support ergo boards, which was promised to happen last year.

>>105635910
wait till you hear a model f with the solenoid. fucken machine gun might piss the neighbours off

>>105638492
>There indisputably is a difference.* I've heard it.
Here he is!

>>105638537
You're better off 3d printing them at this point and throwing them into a cheap tumbler for polishing.

>>105638728
The solenoid can be changed too if you have a usb converter. You could hook up a car solenoid with its own current supply and it will acuate with each key press using a control voltage coming from the control board of the usb converter to a relay. If you can fit it in the sheet metal case you will have the keyboard equivalent of a kalashnikov firing with each shit post.

>>105626237
I assume that's some best practice? I just orientated myself on the (key) values.

Good news is, my keycap set comes with a FN row. So that'll go on as well.

>>105626237
>>105639169
Forgot pic.

What are good keycaps that lets me feel like a spaceman? no pictures on keycaps please

>>105639362
Look up the space cadet keycap clones or any lisp keyboard sytle keycap set

>>105639169
I dunno if it's necessarily best practice, but a numbering scheme that describes where a switch is supposed to go makes sense.

>>105639362
>>105639415

>>105608218
The truth is discussing keyboards in general is a pointless topic and the wheel can't be reinvented. Choose blue, brown or red and then choose your size and then buy the cheapest keyboard available to you. Not satisfied? Get a Model M or membrane. Want ergonimic? Learn to solder and get a dactyl. It can all be boiled down to that.

>>105608218
>who think they are anthropomorphic women
Nigga has never heard of HMOFA
>>105640201
This is a terrible oversimplification, if you mean the fundamental "press key to insert that key's character/function into the computer", sure, but keyboards are way more than that. Everyone has a different preferred feel/layout/sound/profile or specific features that fits them, blues, reds, and browns suck and there's no reason to buy them now
>Cheapest available to you
Unless you specifically want this, why? If you have the income to do it I think it's more than justified to spend however much you want on a tool you'll be using every single day for hours on end. Even "dactyl" is way too vague, there's multiple types of them besides the manuform which is what I assume you're referring to. Do you want low profile or more/less keys or a mouse input or wireless?
I think a better comparison would be with cars. The vast majority of cars have the same basic, fundamental functions, but everyone has a different car that suits them, there's a reason why every single car you see isn't the exact same

https://www.ebay.com/itm/197441600098

Saw this being sold.

>>105640628

1/2
>Everyone has a different preferred feel/layout/sound/profile or specific features that fits them, blues, reds, and browns suck and there's no reason to buy them now
All MX style switches are derived from the original cherry range. Browns, blues and reds are still widely used and are always used a benchmark to judge what slight alterations an MX clone has, but realistically the impact on typing experience is overstated and when people use a daily driver they quickly forget or overlook the switches they use as long as it falls into their linear/tactile/clicky perference. The only MX clone I have ever used and felt a substantional difference that was enough to make me cognisant of the fact while typing was kailh box jade and navy which even then is not surprising due to how fundamentally different the box stems are when compared to original MX design stems. Keyboard size is a non-issue too. Unless you are on the move there is no real reason to get something like a 60% and from what I have seen over the years you are paying more for the luxury of having less. Realistically you will only ever need a 75% or a 100% as 8/10 times you will have a work surface that will accomadate their size. Height being a selling point is also a non-issue as you can simply lower or raise your desk and/or chair to accomadate. Sound seems nifty and cool, but there is only so much variety and the downright snake oily way the keyboard modding scene has gone down over the years is ludicrous. Unless you have profound autism and really struggle with sensory processing a switch having a reverb or muted high end is something the vast majority of people would only pick up on if you pointed it out to sell it to them. Keycaps I do believe however have an impact such as the more raised edge profiles can rub againsts peoples fingers if they their fingers are slightly thick

2/2
>Unless you specifically want this, why? If you have the income to do it I think it's more than justified to spend however much you want on a tool you'll be using every single day for hours on end.
In theory you make a good point, but this assumes that there is a direct correlation with price and returns on quality with the keyboards you can buy today. The only time where cheapness becomes a detriment is when you look at below 20 off brand boards as they almost entirely use b-stock mx switches and unsecured pcbs. But the vast majority of the boards below 50 will do just as much as a board over 100 in terms of functionality and quality. Unless you are buying a non-mx, vintage or an ergonomic model for a hand injury the only real difference in paying more is paying for a differently engineered PCB along with the brand.
>I think a better comparison would be with cars. The vast majority of cars have the same basic, fundamental functions, but everyone has a different car that suits them
I agree, but the vast majority of car/motor-heads I have come to know become apathetic by their 40s and just stick with a simple literal daily driver because a small 4 cylinder 4 is just what they need.

>>105640853
Shame about the custom coat, but if it was international shipping I would buy this in a heart beat. Easily restorable and a steal for the price

Still using My IBM Model M Keyboard produced in 1992. It's the best! (although I do sometimes wish it had some type of back light to see in the dark)

>>105641040
>although I do sometimes wish it had some type of back light to see in the dark

im looking for a mechancal keyboard that has the following:
>full size
>media control keys
>f keys aligned and right next to number row
>bluetooth and wired functionality

the closest i have found so far is this:
https://rkgamingstore.com/collections/96-keyboards-96-keys/products/rk96-wireless-hot-swappable-rgb-keyboard
however it does not have media control keys(stop, play go back and forward and volume control)

pic unrelated

What keyboard should I get as a chud?

>>105638881
>Here he is!
Remember when it was clearly audible in the Blacksimon build stream where he A/B compared the same board hotswap vs not? And the hand-wave answer was "it was a plate design issue and they're fixing it"—which exactly corroborates what I just said about plate fit being more important in hotswap builds?

How much evidence do you need before you'll admit you're wrong on this?

>>105642170
Depends what kind of chud you are. On the one hand, e.g., I could see one sort of chud deriding screens on keyboards as Chinese or troon shit. But I can see another kind of chud buying a keyboard with a screen to put young anime girls on it.

One kind of chud thinks splits are for troons and degenerate weaklings. Another kind of chud thinks ergonomics is white excellence and the triumph of reason, and that it takes a high IQ to truly master multiple layers.

It's not a settled matter, in other words. The only thing we know for sure is that using artisans and novelties to 'express yourself' is gay and s–y.

>>105642692
I remember when you first posted the video and anons were saying it was barely audible and retarded

>>105641254
I'm not gonna try to help you because the keyboard you're describing sounds disgusting and should not exist.

>>105642914
>barely audible
oh my God you just admitted it was audible

>>105642973
0.0000001 is greater than zero, but that does not make it anywhere less closer to zero anon

And on top of that if your evidence is fucking mic sound demos which everyone knows are unreliable as fuck you might as well concede the point

>>105643015
Parroting "mic tests are unreliable" to argue against a strictly controlled a/b test where the difference is too large to be random noise is such a hilarious dumb cope—you're playing language games, not being serious. You thought that should force a concession? Seriously? Lmfao

FWIW I still advocate for noobs to get hotswap boards because the potential gains from being able to do "rapid-prototyping" experimentation with your board are so much larger than the downsides of hotswap (which, again, are basically zero if you have good switch-plate fit).

>>105642887
>ergonomics is white excellence
Correct. Make an ergodox or kyria Now. >>105642170

>>105642962
why?
i frequently use the f keys for different things such as macros and i listen to a lot of audiobooks and podcasts which is why i have grown used to media control keys.
additionally i enter a lot of numbers so a numpad just expedites.
i want a keyboard to suit my needs. i have found one that almost does but i just wish to enquire if someone knows of one that ticks all my boxes.
why would a keyboard like that be disgusting?

>>105643526
Let's address these one at a time.
>i frequently use the f keys for different things such as macros
That's fine. This does not make it make sense to eliminate the small 0.25u gap that prevents accidental presses.
>i have grown used to media control keys
I have nothing against them, but you ought to know that you can program any key to be a media control key on a function layer. I regularly use fn+space to pause/unpause audio, in addition to other combinations like fn+[ and fn+] for next and previous track. If you have the keycaps for it dedicated media keys are fine.
>numpad
numpads are, of course, based. But a full-sized 108 layout with gapless f-row looks even more retarded than a gapless 75%/etc. You want your dedicated media keys directly touching the numpad so you can accidentally press numlock every time you pause your media?

>>105643928
i am confident enough in my typing ability that misspressed keys are not a skill issue i will have to deal with.

take the orthopill

might map chuds on two axes, one from anti-gay to anti-brown and another from "it's over" to "wagtfky"

split keyboards will be in the anti-brown wagtfky quadrant, IBM Model M will be in the anti-gay it's over quadrant, etc

>>105643947
Yet the addition of one tiny gap is painful for you. Is that not also a skill issue?

>>105644061
reducing finger travel time id say is a trait i would desire in a keyboard.

>>105644029
reddit

>>105644091
>travel time
you are so full of shit and I hope you get the gross keyboard you deserve

>>105644006
>qwerty
no half-measures.

>>105644093
you're on the pro-gay tgtfkm quadrant of the evil reverse face of the chart

>>105644006
ortho is only good when split

>>105644029
>North east quadrant
IBM Punchcard Interface Dated to 1938

>North west quadrant
Soviet Energy Plant Momentary Micro Switch Control Panel

>South east quadrant
Custom MX Lubed With the Blood of Chinese Child Labourers

>South west quadrant
RGB 3D Printed Hall Effect with Home Printed Vinyl Pride Stickers

>>105644006
Imagine deciding to go into autistic alternate layout world just to get henpecked for everything that isn't autistic enough about your keyboard

>>105640967
>I agree, but the vast majority of car/motor-heads I have come to know become apathetic by their 40s and just stick with a simple literal daily driver because a small 4 cylinder 4 is just what they need
are you sure it's not just because they have a second car for fun/the weekend?

>>105641040
how do you get around no win key?

>>105641254
>>105643526
if money were no object, and you didn't mind waiting a few months, and didn't mind spending an hour or two to set up your keyboard, i would've said the repro ibm f122, it has a gap between the f-keys and number keys, but there are 24 of them and you can also assign them to custom functions.
it also has a 10 key block on the left side of the board for even more functions, all the keys can be mapped, on mine i plan to map the f13-24 keys as media control keys, bought the media keyset and gonna stick it up there to replicate my current keyboard.
but you want bluetooth/wireless capability so that's probably right out. it also weighs almost 9 lb/4 kg.

>>105627002
>Unless there was bareboard you were thinking of
My build started with a bareboard Lucky65v2 ($90) , I splurged on a nice GMK keycap set ($80) , and I ended up using Morandi linear switches, total cost was around the same price as a Q MAX series from Keychron. I figure if that's the price range you're looking to be in, going custom would give you a little more leverage with your build.

RIGHT when I plan on buying a keyboard from holykeebs iran decides to attack israel and all shipments/orders are delayed FUCK

>>105646715
you voted for it

>>105647974
People will type like this and then say "I need a split keyboard to solve my RSI"

>>105647974
>>105648605
Bro is throwing gang signs. Also he is an insufferable faggot

>>105581866 (OP)
So i got a a membrane keyboard right now, which is relatively quiet when i type. What would be the closest switch to be similarly quiet? It doesn't need total silence, but i also don't want to become a meme of "that friend that got mechanical keyboard and reminds you of that everytime they join voicechat" and it's just obnoxiously fucking loud clacking or clicking.

>>105648831
Look into boba U4. There are plenty of other silent switches too of course.

Do I need to relube springs when spring swapping

>>105648964
You don't "need" to, no

>>105648710
>Also he is an insufferable faggot
So what? His keyboard content is good.

>Keychron C3 Pro is 80%
>the length is around the same as a 100% keyboard
wtf

>>105650028
>his keyboard content is good
He embodies the worst sterotypes regarding people who buy keyboards. Collecting and consuming for the sake of it and not actually using day to day.

>>105648831
seconding boba u4, they're basically rubber domes but good

>>105650229
Oh no, a guy whose whole schtick is being an expert on keyboards and a contributor to the keyboard hobby collects keyboards. That's so... le bad

How do you think btw that we end up with boards of the quality we have now without the existence of people like this?

I could list twenty things I find cringe and gay about Blacksimon right now, but what's the point of gossiping like a homosexual about things that have little or nothing to do with the content he produces, except tangentially?

>>105650229
>consuming for the sake of it
Ironic that he rants against this endlessly, that consoomerism is a cancer on the hobby etc, and then the very rhetoric he endorses is turned against him.

This is why I will never ever counter-signal consumption. I know what kind of ankle-biting resentful tards are emboldened by this talk. I will never ever stop being their enemy

>>105650068
Oh wait the australian page show it as 433.5 mm but the online manual says 364.6mm. Can anyone check?

planning on buying some switches for a cheap hotswappable keyboard that came with Outemus.
did Outemu change their socket at some point? I pulled out a switch and the socket looks like picrel on the left. was thinking of buying the Outemu silent lemon V1 but not sure if Outemu decided to fuck with compatibility between their own products.

>>105651545
I don't remember my silent lemons having an unusual pin, I think they won't be compatible with the old sockets.

>>105651261
>Ironic that he rants against this endlessly, that consoomerism is a cancer on the hobby etc, and then the very rhetoric he endorses is turned against him.
When your entire channel feeds into the very market you are meant to be rallying against, and you yourself don't act as your preach, yes it does not make you beyond reproach.

Also solder vs hotswap is a non-issue :)

>>105651731
thanks for the reply anon. I popped out a switch and it looks kinda like the pins I see in pictures online of the silent lemons
but maybe I should just cut my losses and buy a nicer hotswappable keyboard that doesn't have outemu sockets so I don't need to worry about compatibility

Friday evening progress.

>>105653352
Nice

>>105582399
>After 1 year of ten finger I am almost back up to my two finger max of 105wpm.
Oh God. I don't know if I can do that. I am the same with two fingers but painfully slow with ten. Every time I try I know if I persist I can get to be better but man I don't know if I have that patience.

>>105602750
>TopreGODS, how are we?
I'm fine and dandy good sir, thank you for asking.

Friendly reminder that HHKB + Elecom Deft Pro is literally the best setup you can run for productivity's sake.

>>105654202
I forced myself to ten finger type a large chunk of Hegel's Aesthetics (custom monkeytype) and it took me three hours, but after that my wpm had jumped from 15-20 to 40. After a few such sessions I was over 60 and getting fast enough that I could integrate it into daily computer use.

I am not the sort of person who can hold himself to resolutions or break bad habits, so this felt like a bit of a hack.

>>105585412
I'm sorry anon, it looks like we're gonna make it

>>105644006
.>fell for the ortho meme
Don't worry anon, so did I. Sounds like a good concept but it's way too fucking cramped. HHKB is about as minimal as I will go for a desktop keyboard.

>>105654749
That sounds like a really good idea. Any particular reason you chose that work to re-type or was it just because you wanted to read it?

I just got a keychron c1 8k and it feels amazing. This is the kind of feel I've always wanted.

>>105655114
>or was it just because you wanted to read it?
yeah just because I wanted to read it, but since then I've learned a few things about choosing appropriate books for typing. The ideal is something where you can stop paying attention for a while and then continue reading without being lost. The analects of Confucius might be good, and other books of table talk, maybe Boswell's life of Johnson. Etc. Because it's hard to type and pay attention at the same time and you don't want to feel you need to go back.

>>105655837
>Because it's hard to type and pay attention at the same time and you don't want to feel you need to go back.
Not sure I agree with that sentiment, just because lately I've been using AI to help me better phrase some things but my way to proofread it is to type it back out rather than C,V it.

But I haven't tried re-typing a book. I have been wanting to read Book of Five Rings though.

>>105656041
>Not sure I agree with that sentiment
Not being able to go back two paragraphs will eventually fuck you if you try to do a book where this matters. Maybe there are some people who never, ever 'zone out' while reading and therefore never need to go back, but most people, especially if they are lightly distracted by trying to type in an unfamiliar style, are occasionally going to do this.

>mfw keyboards dont include packing foam anymore

>>105638721
MTNU is pretty nice, if you like DSA you'll probably like it since it's basically sculpted DSA

>>105657752
I'm mostly interested in how the dishing on the top of the keycap feels. It's just silly 'cause there are multiple sets I would have bought already had they had an ergo kit.

>>105656577
These still do.

>>105660962

>>105656041
>I've been using AI to help me better phrase some things
Using ChatGPT to rephrase my posts isn't just helpful—it's a game-changer.