Why are so many incels dropping out of society and giving up? How is never getting laid not excellent motivation to develop tech like sex bots, VR, and tissue engineering to make gigantic penises and better passing trannies? Why do retards act like Ted K was right? Most nerds are just working on gay shit like spyware and chatGPT wrappers. Where has the inspiration gone?

>Where has the inspiration gone?
It's hard to stay motivated forever when everything is pushing down on you. Possible to persist but damn if it aint hard to sacrifice your time and life to doing work like this. It's really easy to lose sight of the positives.

computer nerds are among the stupidest and least capable people on the planet. it will take many centuries before we have realistic sex bots.

>>105588357 (OP)
vr and trooning is COPE. men want cunny.

>>105588410
My point still stands. Then, the goal should be bioengineering gross old men into cunnymeisters
>>105588407
True, but I find it far more depressing to give up and do nothing.

>>105588424
>True, but I find it far more depressing to give up and do nothing.
Agreed. That is the cycle I'm in. Depression into motivation into depression into motivation.

>>105588357 (OP)
source please ;-;

>>105588433
I feel you anon. I go through cycles of being relatively happy and complacent, just reading manga and minding my own business, and periodically switching on full schizo mode, being an asshole to people around me, driving recklessly, and borderline alcoholism. I would really probably just drink myself to death if I didn't have goals in life. I do wonder how long I can keep this cycle going. I'd give myself at least another decade.

>>105588438
Ochikobore fruit tarts, highly recommend the manga too if you can obtain it somehow. I don't think it's been translated though. Very unique series. It's like an idol series except they're all disgusting perverts and don't give that much of a shit about being idols and just want to molest each other.

>>105588464
I have my moments of insanity.
I've been doing some drastic things recently to try and alleviate the negativity in my life. Substituting real people for things like streamers or AI. My conclusion being fake socializing is better for your mental health than total isolation.
Taking drugs to fill in the lack of motivation and reward. Obviously a crutch to a real fundamental problem.
But I inch by, working towards my goals too. I want software to be better and I actively try to contribute to that. People before me did that for my benefit and I want the next generation to have a leg up, even if it's incredibly difficult and requires immense sacrifice to realize it, especially without any support - financially, spiritually, etc.
I want things to be better for the next generation so they have a better chance than me.

How about your goals?

We could give you the real answer, but you don't deserve it. If you're smart you can fill in the gaps. Look at disconnected people long enough and you'll know why they all gravitate toward introspective activity and why they give up after being ignored some years. Women always expect men to pursue and figure out their little mindgames, if you understand how they work then you will have developed the intuition to interpret the will disengaged people, not just men either.

You don't get smarter by being told the answer, if you are smart you'll figure it out with careful observation.

>>105588508
>Substituting real people for things like streamers or AI.
Probably good as long as you're not paying them anything. The gooning and alcohol keeps the loneliness away, for me.
>I want things to be better for the next generation so they have a better chance than me.
Same, absolutely. I'm surrounded by miserable sacks of shit right now, but at the very least, maybe I could contribute to the world in such a way that I'm surrounded by nicer people when I'm older.
>How about your goals?
Becoming effectively biologically immortal is my #1 goal. Most problems would be solved if I had more time and better health (not that I'm in bad health or anything but you know what I mean). I'm on the research career path right now. I'm particularly excited by some specific recent advancements in AI and biology and I'm quite hopeful and motivated. I'm not (that) crazy or anything, this type of research is a growing field. It does bother me, however, that it seems like so few people I know, if any, really, are as crazy as me and actually want to take the pills they discover and get them out to the public and change things. Most scientists are either low grade scam artists or are good scientists and smart people, but are perpetually safe in this mindset of only studying marginal things and keeping everything overly theoretical and avoiding big ideas for fear of sounding stupid or naive to bucket crab losers. It's been bothering me a lot lately, hence why I made this thread.

Men seem to be biologically wired to be motivated primarily be female acceptance and sex, but I think we've reached a stage in the development of our society (and potentially societies in general) where we either figure out how to save ourselves from this mess with technology that can change the game, or we get outbred by other societies earlier on in the societal development pipeline, miserable and blaming each other for the failures of a large, complex system that nobody has much control over.

>>105588624
>Becoming effectively biologically immortal is my #1 goal

>>105588624
>...
Neat. You sound similar and cool.
>it seems like so few people I know, if any, really, are as crazy as me and actually want to take the pills they discover
Culturally I think people shun fanatics, but in my opinion we need more of those.
Radical people who are willing to self sacrifice in the face of harsh position, in order to raise the floor of society.
People like that don't seem to get appreciation until post mortem, but their legacy's impact and influence becomes/is obvious. It lasts forever and the next generations learn from it in valuable ways. Through published research and productions, stories and accounts.

>Most scientists are either low grade scam artists
I think it is so for all fields and most peoples. Unfortunately. It demotivates me because I consider how powerful people would be if we really combined our best efforts long term instead of ironically wasting so much more effort trying to get one over on each other in the short term.

>It's been bothering me a lot lately, hence why I made this thread.
I see/feel it too.
Take comfort in the fact that progress can't be stopped. It only takes one very dedicated person to make huge lasting impacts, and inspire others to do the same.

>>105588688
>Take comfort in the fact that progress can't be stopped. It only takes one very dedicated person to make huge lasting impacts, and inspire others to do the same.
Wise words. Outside of a nuclear war or a big asteroid, this statement holds. Not much else we can do besides give it our best shot. Even if I die a failure and alone, at least I'll die knowing I tried. Dunno about you, but there was never any hope for me "finding a nice girl" and having a family and being conventionally happy, it was fucked from the start. I could lie to myself and simp hard enough for a girl that hates me, marry her, and pretend I'm not miserable like 85% of all men, or just quit the act and do something I believe in. Am I still miserable? Of course, but I am unfathomably grateful to at least have something I believe in. I guess what I'm trying ot say is that I wish more people, particularly young men that have given up on female attention, could as well.

Anyway, best of luck to you. I think the future holds some good things in store for us, despite how things might seem.

>>105588781
I think it is okay to not let the prospect of failure deter you.
And to accept the detriments of your own self and situations rather than deny they are real.

But I also keep hope alive. Never settle, never submit to speculation.
I've witnessed so many people now, that climb out of actual trash, to find success and happiness, against odds and expectations. The possibility is always there. Regardless of if you expect it, bank on it, etc.

Anyway, likewise.
Pleasant.

>>105588357 (OP)
Gangstalking
You could be very successful and wealthy and have a family but if basedciety is breathing down your neck it's time to take a step back

>>105588433

>>105588487
thank you, gonna watch it after i finished onimai i'm now your sister.

>>105588963
EXCELLENT taste, my friend.

Technology revealed itself as a fake and gay psyop when Moore's law died. Sure, maybe some day there will be a breakthrough, and biological computing will take off.

>VR
A pipedream they roll out every decade or so, with zero success because it is 50 years away in perpetuity.

>sex bots
Robotics is nowhere near advanced enough, and "AI" is the latest crypto tier pump and dump scam. Again, 50 years out.

>tissue engineering
Magically better plastic surgery just turns everyone into a greek god, which means you have a lot more competition. Not to mention the cost.

Ultimately, why invest time and energy into these pursuits when it has very low odds of improving your life?

>>105588975
>those hands
BRO A DOO

I am convinced that the time is coming when those millions of people who condemn us will join our ranks and hail with us what we have created and gained through so much effort.

>>105589016
we have fusion which will give us makers(working on a prototype)
but fucking gangstalking is ruining our vibe

>>105588487
Premise sounds like Gokudolls

>>105589016
>with zero success
Gooning to VR koikatsu sunshine POV was kind of a game changer desu. It's already great, it just needs to keep improving at the rate it's already improving. Obviously ready player one level shit will take way more time.
>Robotics is nowhere near advanced enough
Perhaps
>"AI" is the latest crypto tier pump and dump scam
This is retarded. People claiming LLMs are sentient are probably full of shit but recent developments in neural network architectures have been revolutionary for lots of specific technical tasks.
>which means you have a lot more competition. Not to mention the cost.
The cost is the good part. Now you have motivation to work and get money. Now even an ugly STEMcel could be desired

> very low odds of improving your life
Sorry anon, still not buying the demoralization.

>>105589092
>Gooning to VR koikatsu sunshine POV was kind of a game changer desu
It wasn't. It was a mild distraction for an hour, the visual fidelity is so low that I'd much rather play my scenes at 4k on a real monitor. Doesn't help that the VR mode doesn't support camera moves, which is probably a good thing for motion sickness, but ruins all the good scenes.

>recent developments in neural network architectures
It's all smoke and mirrors. Computers have been beating people in chess for 20 years, nobody cares.

>The cost is the good part.
All the rich people are suddenly attractive, your odds of getting a job go down to nothing. Why would they hire you when you're ugly and too poor for surgery? You'll get your new face thanks to a 200% APR loan shark, how wonderful, shame your personality is still terrible.

>>105588975
neck yourself tranny faggot.

>>105588975
mahiro is at his best when he has a tiny penis

>>105588357 (OP)
Need money to do things. Jobs don't exist anymore. Even when you find one you will work 12h a day minimum with no vacations allowed, and you will work for years before you can save a couple of months' worth in case you get laid off. Except companies do their best to lay people off 11 months in to minimize payouts like bonuses and equity.

>>105588624
>Becoming effectively biologically immortal is my #1 goal.
Same. With immortality, everything you do becomes valuable, and everything becomes possible because you just have to wait long enough for the right time and timing.
Without immortality, everything is worthless. When you die, all your hard work and suffering is forever annihilated. You get nothing. And you can't even grieve it since you don't exist anynore.
There is nothing worth pursuing before immortality.
That is why I got a PhD in comp bio and am now building a company toward this goal. Unfortunately the field of longevity research is nearly 100% a scam. I am keeping track of Loyal and Shift Bioscience as the only 2 potential real companies. My money is on Loyal. My company is phrased as an oncology venture to fly under the scrutiny of people who know better than to get involved with the current crop of scammers.

>>105589656
Biological immortality is a pipe dream that will be built on the backs of generations of early adopters who fall apart at the seams.

>>105589666
Nice try satan.
But that also doesn't matter. The point is that objectively, nothing else is worth pursuing. Either you work toward immortality or, as everything else is worthless, do whatever you want in the moment. There is nothing worth suffering in the modern world for.

The trick is to not give a fuck, don't read the news, delete all social media, delete all instant messengers except one (your real friends will follow you there, everyone else can fuck off), delete tiktok and other brainrot. Work on something that makes you happy, spend time on yourself not on others, learn new things, fix your sleep schedule and stop overthinking. Life is really simple and fulfilling once you figure it out. I used to have depression for many years so I know what I'm talking about. The first step you need to do is actually wanting to change things for the better. Thanks for reading my blog.

>>105589713
well done on being from a rich family.

>>105589712
There is nothing worth suffering for, period. Life is always temporary, even if you defeat biological aging, you can still get hit by a car, you can still trip in the shower and crack your skull.

It's a meaningless waste of life to spend your time trying to prolong it.

>>105588624
>Becoming effectively biologically immortal is my #1 goal
Take your pick

>>105589781
why did he thank him?

>>105589736
Those accidents are rare and it is plausible to live forever with biological immortality alone, in part because you will live long enough for more and more currently fatal conditions being avoidable.

as far as i'm concerned we're all doomed to live forever in the set of all our possible states
and even if you don't believe in that, you may find that the vector position of real states forms a continuous line from birth to death to birth
we will never escape samsara

>>105590027
People who say this kind of shit take the "energy cannot be destroyed" argument a little too literally. You don't remember any real state before birth, and so you've already disproved your own argument.

At best you can argue "muh soul" is infinite, but without memory or personality, what worth does it have? You have a better debate for spreading your genetic seed, at least that's tangible and directly persists.

>>105590056
you don't remember anything from the first 3 years of your life
what about tuesday this week, 5 years ago
dinner last monday?

>>105589727
What? I'm not from a rich family lol

There is no Technology. There is only Capital and its means of assembly.
You won't know what else there could be until you diverge from its lines of flight.

>>105590078
>my family only own 4 properties, that's not rich ok

>>105590119
I don't know where you get that idea from or what that has to do with anything but I'm a rentoid in a 30qm flat and nowhere near rich

>>105589781
BOY IT SURE IS DARK IN HERE

>>105588357 (OP)
just eat healthy, drink healthy, be a good person and get off this site. i guarantee your life will substantially improved
> Where has the inspiration gone?
Trying to code for money instead of passion. Write a genuinely useful program for YOU. Share it to the community. Get feedback. Programming is a job, but it's also an artform.

>>105588357 (OP)
>Why are so many incels dropping out of society and giving up?
because society is rigged against me and it would take me 4x the effort of my grandfather to obtain the same things he had

>>105588624
you're underage or still in school right?

>>105589713
This dude knows

>>105588357 (OP)
I don't want to invent anything or work on anything. I want someone else to do everything for me so I can consume.

>>105590027
we're together forever

>>105590721
It's 2025. Novody has the time or money to work in their spare time.because nobody has the privilege of a 40 hour work week. Touch grass boomer.

>>105590832
>4x
I did the math.
368x.

>>105590000
How could there be a future him to be killed if present him traveled past that point?
Why would he die when he returns to the point?
What version of him could there be other than the one that kills and the one that will eventually return to the point?
Btw checked

>>105590000
Amazing numerals, anon

>>105589656
> Unfortunately the field of longevity research is nearly 100% a scam
I completely disagree with this, this just tells me that you aren't keeping up with any of the literature. Model animal researchers have and continue to do rigorous experiments and are usually pretty good at avoiding making any ridiculous claims. Just because there's a vocal faction of epigenetic clock stans and supplement pushers doesn't we're all like that.
Hadn't heard of loyal though, that's a pretty intriguing company idea. Hope they do well. In the end, I trust drugs that make animals live longer.
>My company is phrased as an oncology venture to fly under the scrutiny of people who know better than to get involved with the current crop of scammers
Pretty cool, good luck. I used to be interested in entrepreneurship but I'm honestly starting to feel like staying in the academia rat race sounds more appealing. I don't necessarily believe that the best ideas out there are marketable, at the moment.
>>105589666
Shut the fuck up loser

>>105591096
Grad student, year or two off from finishing phd

>>105589781
I mean, objectively speaking, virgin telomere regenerator is the least cucked route. Telomere extension is semi bullshit though

>>105590063
Tuesday June 9th 2020 was an average work day. Nothing unusual happened.
dinner last Monday was rally's, went with a coworker and we ate outside. An off duty manager came by and was yelling at the restaurant employees through the drive thru window. I felt bad for them.

>>105592370
you accuse me of not beinf up to date when you don't even know about the only company in history to br close to getting any kind of longevity drug into the clinic. In turn, you don't realize that there's a reason they're the first deapite all this great research you claim ezists.
The little good work related to the field is actually done in the context of regenerative medicine. Even then it's sketchy. Let me.guess: you believe muh yamanaka factors are a valid aging clock, too. Or perhaps you prefer telomere length.
I greatly encourage you to peruse the literature both in and outside this specialty. Use scihub if you have no other access.

On the contrary, it is because I am.very knowledgeable about the state of the art that I can say with total confidence that it's all bullahit. It starts with bad benchmarks and confusing correlation and causation, then proceeds with fabricated data and uncontrolled batch effects.

It's sad but the field generally fails even at basic science, let alone actual longevity-related concepts.

But things can, and will, get better.

>>105592458
Ascendant, robo transhumanist and immortal soul are all better

>>105592528
>you believe muh yamanaka factors are a valid aging clock, too. Or perhaps you prefer telomere length.
You're just resorting to making shit up about me now? You do realize that animal research exists, right? Hardly anyone in academia even gives a shit about telomeres and the partial reprogramming crowd is not really that big in the grand scheme of the geroscience community. There's a rich body of research on a million other topics and it's frankly immature and counterproductive to willfully ignore good research to prop up your own fallacious claim that everything sucks (except your brilliant ideas, of course).
>But things can, and will, get better.
Not with your arrogant attitude.

>>105593171
I wish I was ignoring good research. Unfortunately, I just waste a dozen hours every week porong over yet another crop of magic thinking tier 'research'. You can shove your nematodes up your ass all you want but 80%+ of the literature still relies on telomere length or yamanaka factors or both as a clock and claiming that singing to your drosofly causes it to be immortal because its happy transcripts get turned on for a second.

>>105593338
plus those that don't are often even worse. Ooooh the mouse had nicer hair that means it's younger now!
Fucking hell. How can you see that shit literally everywhere in every longevity journal and try to defend it.
You won't be able to do anything useful until you wake up.