/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread - /g/ (#105588494) [Archived: 941 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:37:39 AM No.105588494
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Previous thread: >>105561982
Replies: >>105598015 >>105599660
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:44:19 AM No.105588533
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>Reposting because the other new thread is a troll thread, apparently

I might have found a solution to KDE Plasma's horrible default touchpad gestures. It's called InputActions, and it's not part of KDE. You have to build it manually from some random 3rd party GitHub repo.
>Heh, GNOME users need to install 3rd party extensions just to make their DE work properly! Not us Plasma chads!
KChuds eternally BTFO.
https://github.com/taj-ny/InputActions
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:49:09 AM No.105588559
New, non-troll thread:
>>105588468
Replies: >>105588608 >>105592560
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:00:40 AM No.105588608
smug gnu
smug gnu
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>>105588559
Thanks for the offer but GNU/no.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:07:44 AM No.105589559
I think I'll be using this thread.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:52:42 AM No.105589792
Reading https://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ right now because I need to understand what to do after I have kernel and busybox booting on initramfs. How to go from there to get a live cd -like env that can mount disks and install shit...
Replies: >>105589867
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:11:20 AM No.105589867
>>105589792
I've only read few bits and pieces but my guess now is that I can just truncate a ~1-2GB empty file and then mkfs ext4 on it and call it root and mount it and fuck it. And I guess I'll either tell syslinux that it's root or I mount it during /init - but this is just a hunch for now.
Replies: >>105589899
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:17:50 AM No.105589899
>>105589867
Actually I think I'll ditch the initramfs because I won't probably need it in my setup anyways.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:11:49 PM No.105590881
Best terminal emulator for Wayland?
Replies: >>105590885 >>105592550 >>105594128
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 2:12:47 PM No.105590885
>>105590881
Foot for the best performance/speed.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 5:44:56 PM No.105592307
>void *p = dlopen("shit", RTLD_LAZY);
how come this isn't searching all of the paths in /etc/ld.so.conf?
i have my library in /usr/local/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libshit.so
when i run the program with LD_DEBUG=all, the search path it prints doesn't include /usr/local and it doesn't find the library
when i run "/sbin/ldconfig -NXp" or "strings /etc/ld.so.cache", my library is included there
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:10:27 PM No.105592550
>>105590881
kwin, gnome-terminal
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:11:43 PM No.105592560
>>105588559
>haha ironic gaybashing
have sex
Replies: >>105592635
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:20:41 PM No.105592635
>>105592560
>>haha ironic gayworshipping
have sex gaysex tranny
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 6:21:07 PM No.105592641
Is this the good thread?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:01:55 PM No.105592981
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riddle me this
Replies: >>105594330 >>105596823 >>105597953
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:24:17 PM No.105594128
>>105590881
https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Foot
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:51:34 PM No.105594330
>>105592981
works on my machine
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:43:06 PM No.105595290
why is linux such a piece of shit?
I need working triton for some slop project. chatgpt told me to install EndeavourOS. Ok fine
>install it
>try to install cuda
>wrong gcc :^)
>install it with yay
>it takes fucking forever to compile
>cancel it after 3h and download popos
>everything is way faster, there are flatpacks without dependency crap yay
>install cuda
>it just works
>try to install llammacpppython from whl
>can't launch it because libcudart or some shit is missing
>edit some file that sets global path and ld paths to include the new cuda folder
>ldd says the file is now found, but missing another so
>get frustrated and shut down
>come home and restart
>now even pycharm wont launch

jesus christ, why do people do this to themselves? on windows i just had to do pip install <githublinktowhl>
Replies: >>105595338 >>105595419 >>105597953
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:46:45 PM No.105595338
>>105595290
Install Gentoo.
Replies: >>105597953
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:55:26 PM No.105595419
>>105595290
I retract my statement. After getting pycharm to launch again, everything works. The reboot seems to have fixed the .so files and pycharm just sucks. The lib is now loaded properly and I can't complain anymore.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:59:46 PM No.105595463
I'm upgrading my shitty little "home server" (it's just a Linux box that's a NAS with Jellyfin). The CPU is an Intel in both cases, there don't seem to be any things I'd need to worry about being different. Usually, I'd just swap the SSDs physically, but this time, I can't.
Can I safely DD the old one into an image file and then DD that onto the new SSD, or is that unlikely to boot/function?
Replies: >>105597953
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:20:25 AM No.105596481
Why does gnome break extensions? Is it done on purpose? Is it hard to design? Do devs just not give shit?
Replies: >>105596791 >>105596840 >>105596924 >>105597795 >>105599826
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:17:56 AM No.105596791
>>105596481
They have no stable API and extensions are a hack that monkey patches the compositor in JavaScript and can cause all sorts of buggy and broken behaviour.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:24:29 AM No.105596823
>>105592981
that's just gnome
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:26:49 AM No.105596840
>>105596481
gnome doesn't support extensions or themes, so they're free to break them whenever they want. it effectively means you want to wait until all your extensions/themes are updated to work with a new version before updating gnome
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:38:58 AM No.105596924
>>105596481
Unstable API like other Anon said. They only care about making it easier for them to make the next version of GNOME. Extensions are supposed to be proposed features which would become responsibility of the core devs at some point, or parallel branches maintained indefinitely by 3rd parties like Canonical's systray plugin. A lot of people mistake it for a build your own GUI system, and it's not that.
Replies: >>105599826 >>105600827
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:58:00 AM No.105597795
>>105596481
They have to justify the millions of dollars they get from retards that think donating to a for-profit organization = doing a good deed
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:25:50 AM No.105597953
mobile computer
mobile computer
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Post more memes.
>>105595463
>boot question
>no boot mode mentioned
This has got to be a meme, happens way too often. UEFI or legacy BIOS?
If UEFI, is there a CSV file in the \\EFI\<vendor> directory? If not, you need to learn to recreate the entry with efibootmgr.
Legacy BIOS should just work when stuffing a bootable drive to a PC.
>>105595290
>GCC compiles for 3 hours
Were you even using all your threads? And why were you compiling it anyway? What CPU?
(gonna updoot mine for a 32-thread one for le Gentoo experience)
>>105595338
Unironically this.
>>105592981
Never used an Apple product in my life. Is there some online version available so I could try it?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:38:53 AM No.105598015
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>>105588494 (OP)
How can I test if users I create for samba are totally locked down?
I created a user with this command:
adduser --system --ingroup sambaadmins sambaadmin

Which if I cat /etc/passwd shows up like this:
sambaadmin:x:109:995::/nonexistent:/usr/sbin/nologin

I tried to do sudo su - sambaadmin, which failed with a "This account is currently not available." message, as expected. Is there anything else I can do to test if this account is properly locked down?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:18:31 PM No.105599660
>>105588494 (OP)
What if
You wanted to fix your domain resolution performance
But debian said
$ sudo systemctl restart systemd-resolved
Failed to restart systemd-resolved.service: Unit systemd-resolved.service not found.
Replies: >>105601161
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:49:36 PM No.105599826
>>105596481
Basically what >>105596924 said. The only real way to avoid this is to use a distro where GNOME is kept the same for at least 2 years. Not only do you avoid major changes to the desktop for those 2 years, your new version will most likely be well behind upstream anyway, so chances are the extension will have been updated by the time you get the update.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:40:46 PM No.105600827
>>105596924
So if they care they would be able to do it right? aren't KDE widgets just extensions as well?
Replies: >>105601522 >>105601690
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:27:51 PM No.105601161
>>105599660
You install it. It's Debian which means they split Systemd into a trillion different packages.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:21:27 PM No.105601522
>>105600827
KDE widgets have a limited scope in what they can do because there is only a specific API for them to work with and this API is mostly stable (it does still break sometimes in major versions but they try to document these breakages and port some of the more well used widgets over to it).

In GNOME there is no specific API per se, everything is compositor internal meaning when they are changing things in Mutter/Clutter then that can break all of the JavaScript extensions that are monkey patching the compositor in real-time to do fuck knows what. It's not exactly a great way to go about things. It offers a lot of power to do what you want but not stability, unless you are willing to keep up with GNOME development and test everything.
Really, only somebody like Canonical has the resources to do that. Individual extensions will break all of the time.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:32:33 PM No.105601610
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I'm on the latest kubuntu. I just want to try to play some non-linux native vidya. Is this the right driver? How much work is required for games running through the steam compatibility thing? Do i need to install anything or does steam handle everything?
Replies: >>105601631 >>105601700
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:36:08 PM No.105601631
>>105601610
The open kernel driver is what NVIDIA recommends nowadays if you have modern hardware. If you have issues with it then you can try the proprietary (non-open kernel driver) one. All of them should work in some capacity though, just avoid Nouveau.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:44:52 PM No.105601690
>>105600827
If allowing the user to customize the UI was a major priority, the project would work very differently. They would either have LTS branches where the API doesn't change for 5-10 years or do like KDE and have a less powerful API broken up into several domains.

GNOME is ultimately about helping RedHat sell training though.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:46:01 PM No.105601700
>>105601610
Jesus, is this what nVidia users have to deal with?
Replies: >>105601713 >>105601748 >>105609139
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:46:56 PM No.105601713
>>105601700
Yes. Instead of just "one blessed driver" you have a billion different branches to choose from.
Replies: >>105601748
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:47:03 PM No.105601714
Why are there two concurrent threads?
Replies: >>105601769 >>105601991
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:51:28 PM No.105601748
>>105601700
The GUI metapackage selector on this particular distro/DE seems to be fucked.

>>105601713
>implying choice is bad
You have several branches that you can pick, depending on whether you prefer stability or new features. A lot of distros don't even let you pick the branch and just go with the latest.
Replies: >>105601784
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:54:40 PM No.105601769
>>105601714
first time on an imageboard? it's quite common for multiple threads on the same topic to exist concurrently.
Replies: >>105601793
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:56:48 PM No.105601784
>>105601748
>You have several branches that you can pick, depending on whether you prefer stability or new features.
What if you prefer both?
Replies: >>105601796 >>105601802 >>105602889
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:58:35 PM No.105601793
>>105601769
On /vr/ and /vg/ duplicate threads get deleted pronto
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:59:01 PM No.105601796
>>105601784
3 or 4 branches exist at a time, pick one of the middle ones, i guess
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:59:31 PM No.105601802
>>105601784
Then you don't buy nvidia.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:22:45 PM No.105601991
>>105601714
first thread had a pride month op and some anons don't like that
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:06:24 PM No.105602889
>>105601784
then you don't understand what the words stability and new features mean.
Replies: >>105602913
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:09:15 PM No.105602913
>>105602889
What do you understand them to mean? The Debian definition of stability (i.e nothing ever changes) is not what most people think of.
Replies: >>105603312
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:59:04 PM No.105603312
>>105602913
https://docs.nvidia.com/datacenter/tesla/drivers/#driver-lifecycle
Replies: >>105603429
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:10:44 PM No.105603429
>>105603312
That says nothing about stability. Why shouldn't you use the latest driver in production, for example?
It doesn't say. In fact it explicitly says:
>General guidance only
Which is essentially equivalent to:
>Figure this out on your own
Replies: >>105603938
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:08:55 PM No.105603938
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>>105603429
>Figure this out on your own
That's exactly what that means. Some branches are more mature, therefore fewer bugs. Some branches are are newer, therefore newer features. There are feature lists for every branch that show what features each branch has. There are changelogs for every release of every branch that show what kind of known issues it has and what kind of bugs are getting fixed. Figure out yourself what you want to use according to your needs.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:28:24 AM No.105606229
i got a 5090 last week and finally decided to install it in one of my linux PCs. it turns on and the 5090 gets recognized by the OS, but not by nvidia-smi. i am running linux mint 21.3 and i used the driver manager app in the OS to install nvidia 570 drivers, but it still isnt getting recognized by nvidia-smi. what else should i try? i was reading something about manually installing drivers. something to do with "open" nvidia drivers, whatever that means.
Replies: >>105608786
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:09:12 AM No.105606508
Is Linux Mint going to be okay? It seems to be taking its time with Wayland support. Will they be able to switch over completely like how Gnome and Ubuntu are trying to? Or will we still be using Xorg/X11 for a while?
Replies: >>105606754 >>105606778 >>105607028
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:48:32 AM No.105606754
>>105606508
Presumably when they eventually rebase on a newer version of mutter it'll JustWork. Mint isn't known for technical competence though.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:53:05 AM No.105606778
>>105606508
>Wayland
nuh uh sorry sweaty, the future is Xlibre
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:08:35 AM No.105606845
There's a certain repo build of a Linux program I've been using, but it seems development stopped and there's no download available in the latest versions of Linux. I don't really have any experience with github, but If I could identify the differences, and re-implement them on a fork of the current master branch, could I use that on my device over the one I can download from APT?
Replies: >>105607028
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:12:30 AM No.105606860
i'm fucking beyond tired of things putting random folders in my home folder, and not even having the courtesy to make them hidden

i guess it's time for the nuclear option, making a separate folder and pointing all my personal shit there, adapting all my scripts and everything, so my actual home folder can just become a trashheap
fucking christ. isn't this what .local and .config are for?
Replies: >>105607240 >>105607256 >>105623521
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:54:47 AM No.105607028
LinuxFromScratch
LinuxFromScratch
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>>105606845
>I don't really have any experience with github
You mean compiling from sources? Get the sources and read README.
On Debian and other APT-using systems you likely need some *-dev packages, *-devel on Fedora/RPM-using systems. Arch Linux is bloaty and packages all that along with libraries.
>>105606508
No such thing as "Mint support", it supports whatever Ubuntu does.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:32:52 AM No.105607240
>>105606860
I have the same problem on Windows, and I did exactly what you describe, a separate actual personal folder. 3rd party developers just don't give a shit
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:36:45 AM No.105607256
>>105606860
It really comes down to if the developer of the program you're using wants to follow the XDG standard to keep your /home clean. Some don't bother and dump folders right in your /home, though at least most of them make the folder hidden.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:45:30 AM No.105607844
What's the best kernel to use long term? 6.1? It seems like it'll be supported a while.
Replies: >>105607872 >>105609009
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:51:22 AM No.105607872
>>105607844
latest mainline. Always latest mainline.
Replies: >>105607907
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:59:50 AM No.105607907
>>105607872
Why would I use the latest? They're just adding shit, the oldest that runs what I have is the best, right?
Replies: >>105607921
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:02:30 AM No.105607921
>>105607907
kernel only backports fixes if they can be easily cherry-picked. (and no one forgets it needs to be done on the older branch). The older the LTS, the more unfixed security flaws you get.
Replies: >>105607937
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:04:26 AM No.105607930
Screenshot 2025-06-16 at 06-03-32 Microsoft Copilot Your AI companion
All Linux distributions should be legally required to change their package manager once a year to confuse LLMs.
Replies: >>105608010 >>105608158 >>105608165
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:06:15 AM No.105607937
>>105607921
I doubt those will ever affect me on a single user system. I don't like the direction things are taking so I'd prefer older stuff.
Replies: >>105609009
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:25:24 AM No.105608010
>>105607930
If you're wondering what I was trying to do. I want to export some metrics over HTTP but I realised writing a LuCi module would be better for that instead of Flask which Copilot suggested. Still funny how out-of-date it is though.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:03:59 AM No.105608158
>>105607930
openwrt hasn't switched to apk yet unless you're using a snapshot/dev version
Replies: >>105608165 >>105608216
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:06:19 AM No.105608165
>>105608158
>>105607930
(also i found that out quite quickly when i went to update my snapshot build using router and i could no longer even download package lists anymore)
Replies: >>105608216
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:07:51 AM No.105608174
Does NixOS have the equivalent of USE flags like gentoo? Considering switching
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:17:48 AM No.105608216
>>105608165
>>105608158
I'm using snapshots where APK is the default now. I actually updated my old snapshot by rsyncing from a tarball and re-installing my packages again because yes, mine broke too.
Replies: >>105608245
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:18:50 AM No.105608222
Alternative to ClamTK? Kapitano any good?
Or maybe, no need? Since ClamTK is just the GUI interface, not the actual antivirus scanner, would it be fine to keep using it if it doesn't get updated anymore, as long as the ClamAV definitions get updated? Or would there be some kind of security vulnerability?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:25:10 AM No.105608245
>>105608216
i just went to stable when that happened. the only reason i was using a snapshot was because i picked up a thin client to use as a router, but it was uefi-only, which at the time i got it was not supported in stable openwrt. once the package manager changed the stable version did support uefi, so i just used that
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:30:30 AM No.105608269
Just installed BTRFS and don't understand how anyone can use any other filesystem besides ZFS/BTRFS.
Replies: >>105608293 >>105608568 >>105608786
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:35:58 AM No.105608293
>>105608269
yea, it does that. i first tried it in 2014, and while it was really not recommended at the time, i stuck with it because the features were just too good to let go
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:45:03 AM No.105608340
>latest input-leap on the fedora repos is 3.0.2
>there's a 3.0.3 tar.gz rpm release on the github
>https://github.com/input-leap/input-leap/releases/tag/v3.0.3
how do i install this input-leap-rpms-fedora-v3.0.3.tar.gz file? extract the rpms and just install one by one?
Replies: >>105609030
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:25:45 AM No.105608551
Fedora 42 + nvidia + wayland + gnome
Whenever I minimize a window or move it behind other windows, it starts rendering at what seems like 1hz. That would be fine by me if it didn't break some programs. OBS is completely broken unless I always have it in view. Godot also has issues unless I keep all of its windows in view.
Is there any way to disable this behavior? Or does anyone know what exactly is causing it?
Replies: >>105608786
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:28:54 AM No.105608568
>>105608269
BTRFS is good, there's just a dedicated group of people that constantly jump in to say how shit it is for whatever reason.
Replies: >>105608591 >>105608795
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:32:57 AM No.105608591
>>105608568
This is not about BTRFS, it only opened my eyes to what every filesystem should have as a bare minimum but does not.
Best part is that I boot from it directly, using GRUB i386-pc. I refuse to use EFI unless forced to.
Replies: >>105609588
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:09:17 AM No.105608786
>>105606229
Try something that has an actual nVidia image, like Nobara or Bazzite.

>>105608269
>don't understand how anyone can use any other filesystem
Most people don't interact with any features their filesystem provides, nor do they know what fs they use. They just use whatever the default is.

>>105608551
I'm pretty sure nVidia's Wayland support is experimental, if not completely broken on some cards.
Replies: >>105608800
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:10:37 AM No.105608795
>>105608568
The reasons:
https://wiki.debian.org/Btrfs
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:11:02 AM No.105608800
>>105608786
>Most people don't interact with any features their filesystem provides
They do, windows user's favorite pasttime is watching defragger run.
Replies: >>105608846 >>105609600
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:13:10 AM No.105608814
what are some good apps that can make the display slightly grey toned, less sharp colors. using linux mint
Replies: >>105608828
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:16:40 AM No.105608828
>>105608814
xcalib
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:18:38 AM No.105608846
>>105608800
Windows 10 and 11 apparently run it in background.
Replies: >>105609600
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:26:27 AM No.105608881
So, earlier I got that initramfs system with busybox booting. Now I'm ditching the initramfs and thinking how to simply install a working /boot and /

Would it work if I simply do this:
>build kernel image
>build busybox (set install PREFIX to suit the target)
>build whatever else (gcc, musl, ??) (set install PREFIX to suit the target)
>now have kernel img and a folder tree in some path that looks like a root filesystem
>make a multi-partition disk image (VFAT /boot and ext4 /)
>mount that disk image
>copy everything from the path where I built busybox and whatever else before to / of this root part
>install syslinux bootloader in the /boot part
>copy the linux kernel bzImage to /boot (and make sure syslinux finds it)
>umount that disk image
>qemu_x86-64 disk-image.img
>profit???

OR am I missing something??? Is it really this simple?
Replies: >>105608899 >>105608909
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:31:10 AM No.105608899
>>105608881
If you want minimal system and really want a shit filesystem that is ext4, then run mkfs.ext4 -f /dev/sdX and grub-install /dev/sdX, you still need to generate grub config into /boot, but it's not a partition.
Replies: >>105608909
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:33:53 AM No.105608909
1726664771669137
1726664771669137
md5: 4bbf00950088cdc7461662565c34745b🔍
>>105608881
This is what I have now but am struggling to make that image bootable because somehow the empty file I create to act as the disk image does not work exactly the same as a proper disk would, even though logically I think it should...

>>105608899
I just want to learn how to create a linux system without the help of distributions (except for using a distro to build that system). I could use grub but I just picked syslinux because it seemed simple, bootloader shouldn't matter.
Replies: >>105608921 >>105609759
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:36:13 AM No.105608921
>>105608909
>bootloader shouldn't matter.
it does, and grub simplifies it by allowing you to install it into first 512 bytes of disk in 2025 just like it was done by everyone in good old days.
Replies: >>105608926
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:37:50 AM No.105608926
>>105608921
I see, interesting. Anyways, I think I'll try to simplify this by creating just one big ext4 to act as -everything- partition that the bootloader boots the kernel into. Just to get it working and then work up from there.
Replies: >>105608937
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:39:22 AM No.105608937
>>105608926
By the way, there's enough luddites who hate grub, just pick an older bootloader that supports the old boot method + ext4
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:48:10 AM No.105608994
avseedfae
avseedfae
md5: 1381f7eeada4537082d5eff8f25f5aeb🔍
Web browser? I used Chrome and Opera GX but I'm looking to make a switch
Firefox seems to be the most popular browser for Linux but I don't have good memories from when I used it as a teenager
How's Brave?
Replies: >>105609028 >>105609082 >>105612181
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:50:00 AM No.105609009
>>105607844
>>105607937
Don't bother with upstream if you need long term. Use Red Hat's, Ubuntu's GA, or even Oracle's UEK. All supported for at least a decade. Meanwhile upstream has cut down its "longterm" support to 2 years, lmao.
Replies: >>105614354
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:52:39 AM No.105609028
>>105608994
Firefox is what I used. Brave is my sub-browser, also the best Chromium experience you can currently get.
Replies: >>105609100
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:52:55 AM No.105609030
>>105608340
you extract the tar.gz and install the rpm that you need using DNF. i assume there's only one, the one that doesn't have "src" or "debug" in its filename.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:01:22 PM No.105609082
>>105608994
Brave is probably the best Chromium browser.

Firefox is mainly popular on Linux because it's the default. And it was the only browser historically which could achieve actual privacy, ie not leak your hardware info, your installed fonts, screen resolution, etc. So, people who liked to reduce their online fingerprint would opt to use Firefox, just like they would opt to use Linux.
With Manifest V3 it's currently the only browser which supports proper adblock, but I think Brave devs have force-enabled MV2 support.

I personally use LibreWolf for most browsing but I use Brave when I'm doing anything related to logging into websites, payments, etc.
Replies: >>105609100 >>105609332
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:01:52 PM No.105609084
1720380477445796
1720380477445796
md5: 6d1f763e9a5d16ec40db08d4b998dda7🔍
Is there a way to add a tray icon for when a script is running in the background
with something like YAD?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:03:15 PM No.105609090
1731731976216477
1731731976216477
md5: 3e05eae41e4b526cc23a1ccec077adff🔍
How to get a preview for video files with thunar whens selecting file for firefox?
Replies: >>105609196
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:04:32 PM No.105609100
>>105609028
>>105609082
I'm thinking about going with a Firefox fork, like GNU IceCat, but I don't have autism so I don't know if it's right for me
Replies: >>105609137
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:05:33 PM No.105609109
1742403428854117
1742403428854117
md5: 70b30036e0c967018fc7d54c8bd54721🔍
Is it worth bothering with autofs to mount my NFS/SMB shares?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:10:22 PM No.105609137
>>105609100
Why would you use IceCat?
Replies: >>105609162
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:10:59 PM No.105609139
>>105601700
You mean just choose and click? That is so simple. How about
>nvidia drivers on Fedora
>nvidia drivers on Fedora with secure boot enabled
>nvidia drivers on Fedora atomic with secure boot enabled
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:15:18 PM No.105609162
>>105609137
because I like cats
Replies: >>105609171
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:16:18 PM No.105609171
>>105609162
Valid point. I guess use it and see if it works for you.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:21:09 PM No.105609196
>>105609090
tumbler creates thumbnails for thunar
firefox file picker does not use thunar
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:46:48 PM No.105609332
>>105609082
IMO Firefox as a main browser and Brave as a secondary option when something doesn't work properly in Firefox is best
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:02:32 PM No.105609401
How to define a shortcut to open the first, second, etc result of a startpage search? I can tab to get there, but it takes many tabs. First world problems, I know.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:09:52 PM No.105609434
ResizedImage_2025-06-16_12-09-12_1111
ResizedImage_2025-06-16_12-09-12_1111
md5: 33b7fd164198ade5e7c0eeb8df8d9cca🔍
Thoughts on universal blue project?
Replies: >>105609643
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:35:45 PM No.105609588
>>105608591
>Best part is that I boot from it directly, using GRUB i386-pc. I refuse to use EFI unless forced to.
Unless you're using an old toaster, your machine, like every modern x86 platform, is booting in 16-bit real mode into a firmware stub, then from there into the UEFI firmware (probably 32/64-bit protected mode), then back down to a fake 16-bit real mode (CSM) emulated over UEFI, then into MBR GRUB which uses the CSM emulated storage interrupts to find and load the kernel, then switching to 32/64-bit protected mode to run Linux.

The UEFI firmware is there anyway. Worse, the CSM stays resident in memory because there's no way for the boot loader or OS to tell it to fuck off like there is with UEFI boot services. All you're doing is complicating the boot process and wasting a bit of RAM.

If the problem for you is secure boot, you don't *have* to use it. Otherwise, you're just gimping your machine.
Replies: >>105609638
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:37:31 PM No.105609600
>>105608800
>>105608846
Nobody runs manual defrags on Windows since Vista.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:43:01 PM No.105609638
>>105609588
Works on my machine.
Replies: >>105610102
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:43:28 PM No.105609643
>>105609434
They're providing the best desktop experience. Unfortunate how their distros aren't more popular.
Replies: >>105609856
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:01:31 PM No.105609759
1722023485743717
1722023485743717
md5: f9ea27c2e3fd0e69a409d12a63573cce🔍
>>105608909
I'm now this far:

>build /, /boot and /initramfs
>initramfs just copy of root for now
>/init script for initramfs that mounts stuff and gives shell
>/boot and / on separate partitions
>everything scripted to build into single image file that you can boot

But I don't know how to switch to the root partition from initramfs, not yet. If I exec busybox's switch root it gives me kernel panic.
Replies: >>105610228 >>105610260
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:13:22 PM No.105609856
>>105609643
I blame their marketing. People vaguely know what Bazzite is but that's it. Most of their material is written to communicate with developers, not end users unfortunately. Which one of their distros do you use?
Replies: >>105610044
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:41:36 PM No.105610044
>>105609856
>Which one of their distros do you use?
Bazzite has been on my main PC for a year now. It's also on my wife's laptop, although only because I wanted it to have access to Waydroid. At the time I installed it I thought installing Waydroid on an atomic distro would be annoying (I only discovered ujust commands last month). Otherwise I would've probably gone with Aurora.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:51:52 PM No.105610102
>>105609638
Didn't claim otherwise. It's just a dumb waste of time and resources.
Replies: >>105610175
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:02:43 PM No.105610175
>>105610102
I'd rather waste few bytes than waste hours trying to reinstall my system when boot partition on vFAT inevitably gets corrupted.
Replies: >>105610281
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:09:40 PM No.105610228
1741999659322754
1741999659322754
md5: ae228a5c9641e6ea6342b82ecfd9f59f🔍
>>105609759
It works now! Just had to construct a minimal /etc

>/etc/inittab
>/etc/fstab
>/etc/profile
>/etc/init.d/rcS

Now I have my own little micro-distro that I can slowly work on and improve further. :3
Replies: >>105610254 >>105610260
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:14:49 PM No.105610254
1720430982146490
1720430982146490
md5: 675d14e0b0b730298965039f4b7b1107🔍
>>105610228
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:15:59 PM No.105610260
>>105609759
>But I don't know how to switch to the root partition from initramfs, not yet.
Technically you don't have to, when using an initramfs (not initrd) the root is a kernel-created tmpfs you can use freely. You could do weird shit like bind mount /usr, /etc from an arbitrary location instead of switching root.

>>105610228
By the way, forward the initramfs' init arguments to the final init. Anything not recognized by the kernel on its command line will be passed there.
exec switch_root /mnt/root /sbin/init "$@"
Replies: >>105614330
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:18:23 PM No.105610281
>>105610175
>when boot partition on vFAT inevitably gets corrupted.
lol
Replies: >>105610335
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:25:26 PM No.105610335
>>105610281
Already happened last year. Fuck off.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:48:42 PM No.105612181
>>105608994
>firefox and tor browser
>gpl
wut
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:45:31 PM No.105613464
Is there a way to install nvidia proprietary cuda (nvidia-smi) and actual required deps without pulling in all sorts of trash like adwaita icons, fonts, lib/cups, avahi for container use (gpu driver on host)? Debian 12 pulls half a gig and Fedora 42 is even worse.
apt install --no-install-recommends cuda-drivers-575
...
0 upgraded, 187 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 472 MB of archives.
After this operation, 1547 MB of additional disk space will be used.
Replies: >>105623630
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:51:55 PM No.105613530
1724320215713685
1724320215713685
md5: 431feefec797d6e908fe683b765bcdae🔍
I have NVME and HDD in my machine.
Is there a way to map the ~/Downloads directory to be on the HDD?
Replies: >>105613578 >>105613912 >>105616911
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:56:53 PM No.105613578
>>105613530
yes, you can either mount the drive directly there or you can do a bind mount. The later is what I'd recommend.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:07:11 PM No.105613680
query
query
md5: 7090b4eb4b1272b2db3eafd69b40c779🔍
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/wiki/Software_minimalism#What_does_.2Fg.2F_use.3F
what does this one behave and look like in practice? been thinking about setting up a meme CLI mostly desktop for fun.
Replies: >>105613715
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:10:52 PM No.105613715
>>105613680
Minimalism is for small smooth brains.
Replies: >>105613733
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:13:21 PM No.105613733
>>105613715
i want to try it anyway cuz im curious
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:13:33 PM No.105613737
1747216492706572
1747216492706572
md5: 79b79e56eb23d7e7734450b217a18bf4🔍
I installed endeavor OS KDE edition.
How to make it look good?
Mainly the terminal, I want something like this instead of plain text.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:31:31 PM No.105613912
>>105613530
fstab, something like this
/dev/sdb1 /home/anon/Downloads ext4 rw,user,exec 0 0

check the options and you probably should use UUID instead of path
Replies: >>105616911
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:15:35 PM No.105614330
>>105610260
>You could do weird shit like...
Sure, but would there be any benefit in that? My goal is to build a working live image that I can then use to install a working system.

>Anything not recognized by the kernel on its command line will be passed there
Cheers, fixed.

I'm currently building a separate "stage" build process where I'm building a toolchain for this system. So "stage 0" is just a very bare less than 10mb root system with busybox. Then "stage2" is stage0 + a working compiler toolchain with glibc. I want to split the build result in stages because compiling GCC multiple times for the target system takes a long time and results in 1G root.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:18:06 PM No.105614354
>>105609009
I don't want more shit added in, that's why I'm leaving gentoo's sources in the first place.
Replies: >>105623379
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:24:54 PM No.105614420
https://blog.cyrneko.eu/matrix-is-cooked
When will you finally learn that a federated protocol will never take off, no matter what, except in a very very specific scenario, in which you come up with a nice name for your protocol, make an official (and good) implementation of a server, make an official implementation of a client with the EXACT same name as the protocol, and finally launch an official server that is located on your main website domain, with a big download and sign up buttons on your main page and a client that will force you to use the official server unless you press the button to not do that
It's literally the only way any federated protocol has a chance to be popular among normal people because normal people don't care about muh federation, in fact they dislike it. Matrix was so close to this ideal, but the name sucked, the server implementation sucked, the client sucked, and no one was looking to get off Discord at the same, so it lost
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:01:07 PM No.105614698
I have a slightly off-kilter hardware setup brewing, that being an Arc A310 as the primary display adapter with a 7900XTX as the beef card on an AM4 X570 motherboard. (CPU is either 5800X3D or 5950X depending on how mercury gets in retrograde)
What Linux distro will play decently with this while still not giving me immense pain for someone going balls-deep for his first time?
Usecases: fucking everything, vidya, creative software, gonna spin up a windows VM, and the legendary et cetera.
My first choice knowing what I know is Fedora. I am aware I will have to do some manual tweaking, but once the tweaking to make the cards work is over, I don't want to tweak much more systems wise.
Previous experience:
I have a small box with Linux Mint on it, a homeserver on Debian, and an old laptop also on Debian. Other than the homeserver being the homeserver, I don't use these machines often. I know how to install a desktop environment and I am capable of using the terminal.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:25:56 PM No.105614875
1742780476742218
1742780476742218
md5: c821bac8a54b9fe0bd6c50283e91f009🔍
Is there an Office Suite that is known to work on Wine with minimal problems?
I installed 2007, but Word crashes whenever I try pasting text.

>inb4 just use LibreOffice
That's not what I asked.
Replies: >>105615006 >>105615027
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:44:26 PM No.105614990
710e7acb-230e-4342-a402-06b4296e886e-2560103665
710e7acb-230e-4342-a402-06b4296e886e-2560103665
md5: 6374bf0290317ce4e0081a2594dd9c1b🔍
>compile stuff from source
>pacman -Syu
>none of it runs anymore
I don't understand the point of this. Are you just not supposed to compile programs you want to use in rolling-release distros?
I need my modified source software to run reliably. I'm happy with Debian only it's possibly too behind with some software.
Replies: >>105615005 >>105615006 >>105616911
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:46:40 PM No.105615005
>>105614990
you should know that updating libraries may require you to recompile your software.
Replies: >>105615044
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:46:43 PM No.105615006
>>105614875
If you refuse to use a substitute: no.
>>105614990
Recompile the programs, anon.
Replies: >>105615044
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:51:00 PM No.105615027
>>105614875
you asked for an office suite, not ms office.
Replies: >>105619268
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:52:44 PM No.105615044
>>105615005
>>105615006
I know. But it wasn't as simple as that either, where it'd change names or locations for the binaries on update, so the Makefile became worthless, and this is stuff that would take a while to compile with many dependencies. How's one supposed to be be consistently productive without the risk of completely breaking the system by avoiding updates for months?
Replies: >>105615061 >>105615071 >>105616911
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:55:34 PM No.105615061
>>105615044
I dunno what you're doing but you're doing it wrong
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:57:09 PM No.105615071
>>105615044
Can you provide actual details?
Replies: >>105615140
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:07:24 AM No.105615140
>>105615071
I forgot. This was about a year ago before hopping to Debian out of desperation, but like I said, I'm noticing the oldness of the packages. So I'm more just venting frustration at the two extremes and wondering what the sweet spot is for not having to recompile source all the time, nor having to scour for third-party repos (that may not even work with dependencies from another third-party repo).
Replies: >>105615210
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:15:39 AM No.105615210
>>105615140
Most people would say Arch IS the middle ground. Compiling a few apps from source isn't a big deal unless your hardware is poverty-tier. The ABS makes it pretty easy.
The only alternatives I can think of are portable app formats, or just using Windows and praying to god that your legacy program isn't one of the ~30% that won't run anymore.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:21:09 AM No.105615259
screenshot-17-06-2025-08:17:29
screenshot-17-06-2025-08:17:29
md5: cbc247edf511d50152f4eabac6e9fa4b🔍
Why does gnome-tweaks and gnome-system-monitor not respect my theme?

Like I know it's because ebussi is a cunt stain part of the global agenda to make the entire world as soulless as he is but how? Where is the setting that changes this?

Transmission uses GTK4, is it GTK5 that's the problem?
Replies: >>105615594
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:08:16 AM No.105615594
1681298710987
1681298710987
md5: 416b5434c79ac1eb39d6c2842893d80e🔍
>>105615259
>Why does gnome-tweaks and gnome-system-monitor not respect my theme?
Replies: >>105617174
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:02:18 AM No.105616806
>Why does gnome-tweaks and gnome-system-monitor not respect my theme?
It's illegal to theme gnome
https://stopthemingmy.app/
Replies: >>105617174 >>105618360
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:19:21 AM No.105616911
>>105614990
Happens on all distros bro. Your custom crap was compiled against libraries that stop existing after an upgrade.
You could obviously package your custom crap so you'd get an error as a warning at least. But the recompilation isn't going anywhere.
>>105615044
lol what
>>105613530
Mount HDD under /mnt/hdd, create directory /mnt/hdd/downloads and (sym)link it to ~/Downloads.
>>105613912
Add "nofail" to those options.
Replies: >>105618389 >>105620831
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:31:23 AM No.105616995
how likely is a win10 update to break grub bootloader, OS's on two different drives
Replies: >>105617122 >>105618036 >>105618446
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:52:53 AM No.105617122
1732862479953138
1732862479953138
md5: 068629012ba836a5233d75ba16dacd62🔍
>>105616995
Stop dual booting you fucking retard.
Dualboot is a shitty hack that's not supported by ANY distro or ANY version of windows.
It's literally for poorshit povertyniggers that cant afford more than one computer.
>durr imma dual boot
>windows has bootloader self repair mechanism that repairs its own bootloader if it detects that it's missing or damaged during updates
>GRUB will overwrite any other bootloader during install
>this is not an issue for 99.9999999% of the planet since their computer came with and runs only the preinstalled OS for its entire life
>GRUB installer: lmao imma just delete the windows bootloader and overwrite it btw it's ok when i do it but not ms
>i sure hope the user is installing me on a single OS system and isn't a fucking brain dead dualboot nigger retard and knows i'd get overwritten by windows bootloader self repair
>windows bootloader self repair mechanism detects that windows bootloader is missing during an update and fixes it by recreating the windows bootloader, overwriting GRUB

>OMG WTF IT BROKE MY LUNIX EVEN THOUGH THIS IS A

>KNOWN

>WINDOWS

>REPAIR

>MECHANISM

>SINCE

>2006

>TWO THOUSAND FUCKING SIX

>ALMOST TWO FUCKING DECADES

>NOW I'M MAD BECAUSE I'M A BRAIN DEAD ILLITERATE NIGGER AND DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT A WINDOWS FEATURE THAT'S OLDER THAN I AM
>REEEEEEE WHY CANT M$ THINK ABOUT US 0.00001% DUALBOOTERS INSTEAD OF 99.9999% OF USERS WHO BUY COMPUTERS AND DONT INSTALL SHITTY HOBBYIST HACKS FOR CRITICAL COMPONENTS LIKE THE BOOTLOADER ON THEIR COMPUTER

Just install one OS, run the other in a VM, then kill yourself you stupid fucking technology illiterate zoomer NIGGER.
Replies: >>105618446 >>105618526
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:59:53 AM No.105617174
480902924_598945712903824_2137802822724644119_n
480902924_598945712903824_2137802822724644119_n
md5: 9f300860a1115b9f4caff18808d1beec🔍
>>105615594
>>105616806
I REJECT THE ANTI-CHRIST
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:14:13 AM No.105618036
>>105616995
I dual booted 10 LTSC on one drive since LTSC was a thing and never experienced this. I usually go several months without touching Windows, but I do install updates.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:11:32 AM No.105618360
>>105616806
>https://stopthemingmy.app/
>only relevant app is Bottles
Nice. Good to know that people who actually make working software don't care about this shit.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:17:29 AM No.105618389
>>105616911
>Mount HDD under /mnt/hdd, create directory /mnt/hdd/downloads and (sym)link it to ~/Downloads.
Thanks man, this worked
>Add "nofail" to those options.
Why?
I just have this
ext4 defaults 0 2
Replies: >>105619664 >>105620847
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:24:04 AM No.105618435
Is systemd really that bloated?
Switched to Artix from Arch and it feels more responsive (might be placebo but I can't be assed to reinstall Arch just to do benchmarks), plus OpenRC's much more simpler and easier to troubleshoot and maintain
Replies: >>105618454 >>105620847
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:26:15 AM No.105618446
>>105616995
I've never run into any issues, dual-booted Mint with Windows 10, and 11.
I just made sure to have Windows installed first, then installed Mint. Also tried with Fedora + Windows 11. The GRUB will load first, but you can go into your bios settings and choose to load the Windows bootloader first, GRUB never deleted it, and Windows never gave me any problems with grub.

>>105617122
Worked on my machine. I eventually switched to Linux completely and just run Windows in a VM if I need it. Maybe I lucked out with my hardware or something since I never ran into any issues with dual-booting. I'd still dual-boot now but my hardware is outdated for Windows 11 and I don't feel like running into compatibility issues down the road.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:27:30 AM No.105618454
>>105618435
Just because something has a bloated and convoluted code-base, doesn't mean it's inherently slower than alternatives.
People complain about systemd because it does way too much. Even systemd devs want to start debloating it. But it's a de-facto standard on Linux at this point, so might as well stick with it.
Replies: >>105618482
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:31:50 AM No.105618474
1747903854680056
1747903854680056
md5: 1d3e78854af19a4508532a2cb28579e6🔍
Is there something like steam big picture mode?
I want to have a game launcher for games in my bottles, native linux games, and games in retroarch.
Replies: >>105621397
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:32:56 AM No.105618482
>>105618454
I'm in this "lazy to figure out the problem but I'm very curious to find out" state
Maybe it's the pacman cache I never bothered clearing making my fresh install more responsive, idk
In any case, systemd's the sane choice if you can't be bothered to tinker but I'm loving these simpler init systems
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:39:42 AM No.105618526
>>105617122
that's not very friendly gnu linux thread of you
but you're right, I got bit in the ass during my time at university for dual booting windows and ubuntu on my laptop, wiping important files in the process (this was before dropbox and LTE)
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:46:22 AM No.105618565
No matter which distro I am using, the result is the same: computer works flawlessly as long as I don't put it on sleep and then I resume the session by clicking mouse/power button/keyboard: If it has passed less than 10 minutes from the last session, it will resume without problems. But if it's more than 10 minutes, my computer freezes where I can see the lock screen but I can't move my mouse and my keyboard. Pressing any key does not work and not even ctrl+alt+f1,f2, etc. I have to hard reset by long pressing the power button.

Windows works just fine (10, 11).

My specs are:

AMD Ryzen 3200g

Gigabyte Aorus M B450

Gigabyte RX 580

What I've already tried to solve the problem:

Changing Monitor: does not work.

Plug the monitor directly to the CPU, instead of using discrete GPU (removing it from PCI slot)

Updating Bios

Using different kernels, distros, etc.

Instead of using my nvme, using an SSD and even a USB 3.0 external hard drive

Clearing CMOS, removing and changing the battery.

This command:

journalctl -b -1 | tail -n 30

reports this: https://pastebin.com/7QXbscBw

A redditor suggested to change c-states, but there are so many options and I don't know which combination I should use.

Another redditor suggested me to remove all the USB devices, but without luck.
Replies: >>105618711 >>105618736 >>105618787 >>105622416
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:08:36 AM No.105618711
>>105618565
>mag 31 09:12:27 mystic gnome-shell[2876]: Cursor update failed: drmModeAtomicCommit: Argomento non valido
I'm guessing that says "Invalid Argument". GNOME is trying to commit a cursor update with some modifiers that the GPU driver doesn't like. I know they recently re-did a whole bunch of stuff to handle cursor updates properly but I don't know if that's in a released version yet.
Replies: >>105618770
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:13:47 AM No.105618736
>>105618565
Which combinations of distros, DEs and display servers have you tried? Could help figuring out if it's a hardware-related issue or something related to only GNOME or Wayland.
Replies: >>105618770
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:20:52 AM No.105618770
>>105618711
Should I try without using my G305 logitech mouse?

>>105618736
I've tried Feodra/Ubuntu with GNOME/KDE. I tried Linux Mint with Cinnamon.
Replies: >>105618991
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:24:12 AM No.105618787
>>105618565
so, thing thing goes into suspend and then dies? Kernel, bios, hardware - that's where you have to look.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:59:30 AM No.105618991
>>105618770
The mouse isn't the issue.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:11:23 AM No.105619052
1723298751652260
1723298751652260
md5: 403266795391dbe20c89409bc5f19d10🔍
What did they mean by this? I see similar issues on several pages in this book.
Replies: >>105619058
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:12:25 AM No.105619058
>>105619052
Nvm, it's creating /lib64 and not /usr/lib64 - Fuck my eyes I've been staring at this too long.
Replies: >>105619085
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:17:11 AM No.105619085
>>105619058
Well actually, I still don't get it because LFS builds the system so that /usr holds it all and /bin /lib /sbin are symlinks to /usr - so why the fuck do they create /lib64 ? Why treat it differently...
Replies: >>105619128 >>105619147 >>105619772
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:26:49 AM No.105619128
>>105619085
>why the fuck do they create /lib64 ? Why treat it differently...
You don't have to, it's just a convention that 64 bit libraries go in /lib64 instead of directly in /lib or /usr/lib
Replies: >>105619147
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:31:12 AM No.105619147
>>105619128
>>105619085
This could also be a symlink too by the way, Arch and other distros often do that:
$ readlink -f /lib64
/usr/lib


I think some people prefer the libraries to go directly in /lib64 because there are retards that put /usr on its own dedicated partition for no reason, but Systemd doesn't really support that anymore. You will also find that some packages will ignore /lib64 and install directly into /usr/lib anyway depending on their build-system, etc.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:51:26 AM No.105619268
>>105615027
he didn't ask for ms office, he asked for an office suite that works in wine
i have no idea why, but that's what he asked for
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:53:23 AM No.105619278
linux
linux
md5: e51934366ab83f97e64154f1d7335407🔍
how do i:
- sort apps list alphabetically? there doesn't seem to be a right-click menu in the "show apps" screen

- add cpu and gpu temp monitoring on the taskbar with the clock on it?

- make a keyboard shortcut to center the active window?
Replies: >>105619356
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:08:03 AM No.105619356
>>105619278
>sort apps list alphabetically in GNOME
>add cpu and gpu temp monitoring in GNOME
You can't. You have to use an extension to do this.
>keyboard shortcut to center the active window
If it doesn't exist as an option in the keyboard shortcuts, I assume you'll need an extension for this too.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:58:44 AM No.105619664
>>105618389
>>Add "nofail" to those options.
>Why?
Boot will fail if the mount fails. It's a default that only makes sense for /, /usr, /home.
Replies: >>105619681
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:01:41 PM No.105619681
>>105619664
Isn't it implied in defaults?
Replies: >>105619733 >>105619798
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:11:06 PM No.105619733
>>105619681
No. Unless you want to find out the hard way, add nofail to all secondary storage mounts.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:16:05 PM No.105619772
>>105619085
>so why the fuck do they create /lib64
The GNU libc runtime linker is hardcoded (in ELF PT_INTERP) to /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2, so the path must exist to run anything built with it. /lib64 should be a symlink to /usr/lib64 though.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:21:27 PM No.105619798
>>105619681
Also, from systemd documentation:
>systemd's handling of the existing "nofail" mount option in /etc/fstab is stricter than it used to be on some sysvinit distributions: mount points that fail and are not listed as "nofail" will cause the boot to be stopped, for security reasons, as we we should not permit unprivileged code to run without everything listed — and not expressly exempted through "nofail" — being around. Hence, please mark all mounts where booting shall proceed regardless whether they succeeded or not with "nofail"
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:21:49 PM No.105619801
truck
truck
md5: 0e0eaad8d4fe45e36a1f9356df5bf565🔍
I installed Ubuntu and now I feel gross.
Replies: >>105619911 >>105620035 >>105620114
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 12:37:43 PM No.105619911
>>105619801
the gnome version? if so, i know the feeling.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:03:44 PM No.105620035
>>105619801
you can install another DE or standalone wm without uninstalling gnome and try that first if you want to switch, most of them are all very easy to set up
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:18:20 PM No.105620114
>>105619801
Why did you install it anyway? If you install the basic desktop Ubuntu with the themed GNOME 4x then yes I know you feel gross.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:31:20 PM No.105620191
1730623353424246
1730623353424246
md5: 95dbf830f16bd3bce04326836fe3eaaf🔍
Phew, building a custom "distro" is hard work. Now I have a cross-compiling toolchain built so now I must build everything again with it, linking against the newly bootstrapped binutils, glibc, etc located in my new /... <_<
Replies: >>105620234 >>105623489 >>105623821
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:31:39 PM No.105620195
So I've added an environment variable to Firefox through the KDE Menu Editor and it works correctly if I launch Firefox normally. However it does not apply if Firefox is closed and I open a private window. If I launch Firefox normally and then a private window then it works fine. It only doesn't work if Firefox starts up with a private window.

Any way to fix this? On Windows the private window is separate from the regular Firefox but it doesn't seem to be the case on Fedora, maybe that's what's causing the problem here?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:37:01 PM No.105620234
>>105620191
This is why people use Gentoo by the way. What you're doing is Gentoo with extra steps.
Replies: >>105620291
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:47:55 PM No.105620291
>>105620234
That's a huge stretch. Gentoo never taught me how the kernel, initramfs and user-space are glued together. With gentoo you just create / and copy an entire user space over it, with a working toolchain and everything you could possibly need. And that's great, but if you want to learn I think LFS is a great resource. I'm not even copying LFS 1:1 at all, I'm improvising my own automated build system that builds everything inside a container.
Replies: >>105620304 >>105620866
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:49:57 PM No.105620304
>>105620291
It never taught you that because you never looked into how those things work. You don't need LFS for that.
I'm running a custom kernel with no initramfs and my user-space is atypical too (I am using Glibc but have replaced certain coreutils with other programs)
Replies: >>105620773
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:50:09 PM No.105620305
Since Nvidia doesn't work properly on linux, I prefer to just use my onboard gpu instead, but that means I have to move the cable back and forth.

Windows doesn't mind if I swap between gpus while my machine is on, but Ubuntu just gives me a black screen if I try, so it needs to be rebooted. Is there any solution?
Replies: >>105620351
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:56:44 PM No.105620351
>>105620305
>Nvidia doesn't work properly on linux
What problems are you having and which driver?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:05:34 PM No.105620773
>>105620304
I didn't look into the internals of gentoo, true, because I didn't have to. I could've, sure, gentoo wiki probably covers it all, but personally I learn the best by doing, which is why LFS is a very good way to learn for me
Replies: >>105627977
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:12:31 PM No.105620831
>>105616911
>Your custom crap was compiled against libraries that stop existing after an upgrade.
Now you mention it, that was likely it. What then?
Replies: >>105620866
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:14:35 PM No.105620847
>>105618389
>this worked
Other than working, there's more to it. It's likely you figure out more use cases for the drive - or rather the filesystem it hosts - than being just ~/Downloads. Like what if you decided to compile loads of sources and wanted to use /usr/src? Then bind mount or link /mnt/hdd/sources to /usr/src.
>>105618435
>OpenRC's much more simpler
But is OpenRC + your rando DHCP and NTP clients + system logger + your rando resolver together simpler than systemd?
>maintain
What does maintaining mean in this context?
Replies: >>105621059
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:18:14 PM No.105620866
>>105620831
Now you become a package maintainer for your distribution.
>>105620291
>kernel
Kernel is distro-agnostic, you can neckbeard it exactly the same regardless Gentoo.
Blog: had a super easy time trying Gentoo out for the first time as I was already doing my own kernels and booting them manually - outside the "distro way".
Replies: >>105620924
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:25:31 PM No.105620924
>>105620866
>Now you become a package maintainer for your distribution.
Oh lord, I can't be arsed with that. Doesn't mean I can't envision the perfect user for Arch, but I'm not him.
Replies: >>105621097
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:42:26 PM No.105621059
>>105620847
>>maintain
>What does maintaining mean in this context?
Might be a matter of personal preference, but runlevels are easier for me to understand than systemd's targets, plus I used to have a lot of .service files with their corresponding scripts that only have like 5-10 lines of code inside
And I've been messing with docker images at work lately, so it feels familiar already
>your rando DHCP and NTP clients + your rando resolver
Like with my arch linux install, I just kept using NetworkManager, plays well with tailscale too so I'm not stressing too much about it
>system logger
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I don't really mind getting dirty with my current setup, rsyslog seems to be one option for a journald replacement
Plus for some of my services ported from systemd I keep a separate log file anyway
Replies: >>105621097
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:42:33 PM No.105621060
1457820254754
1457820254754
md5: 0285a3c75c7ef207f88d8eaf4aef67ae🔍
>try to install openBSD on VM
>go through installation process
>hit the part where it installs
>it reboots
>it goes back to do u wanna install, go to shell or update?
what do? i tried removing the optical boot drive but then it just goes "NO O/S"
Replies: >>105621429
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 3:47:34 PM No.105621097
>>105621059
>likes having everything as a script plus likes runlevels
lmao who likes runlevels?
But anyway, I'd go for the old sysV in that case.
>>105620924
Consult your distribution for an automated process.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:03:46 PM No.105621205
GNU + Linux = ???
Replies: >>105621354
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:23:05 PM No.105621354
>>105621205
LiGNUx
Replies: >>105621446
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:29:21 PM No.105621397
>>105618474
Lutris?
Replies: >>105621409
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:31:04 PM No.105621409
>>105621397
No, tried it didn't work
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:34:30 PM No.105621429
1450717965974
1450717965974
md5: d45a54cfbb628aae6f40b8ed31a1fbeb🔍
>>105621060
i switched to ahci and shit aint working
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:36:32 PM No.105621446
>>105621354
its a shame linus torvalds died of liganoox
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:10:02 PM No.105621742
What distro should I use if I don't want to see the command line EVER
Replies: >>105621755 >>105621886 >>105628109
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:11:09 PM No.105621755
>>105621742
Bazzite
Replies: >>105621810 >>105623672
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:17:38 PM No.105621810
>>105621755
their website gave me cancer, scrolljacking and everything lagging, incredible
Replies: >>105622209
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:26:21 PM No.105621886
>>105621742
Android
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:43:24 PM No.105622006
The KDE discover store suddenly lists all my arch packages that can be updated too. Have they added an option for this recently?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:08:34 PM No.105622209
>>105621810
Good thing their web devs aren't involved with OS optimizations
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:09:11 PM No.105622211
Great! I can report success with the Cable Matters DP to HDMI adapter with my 9070XT and LG C4 OLED. I am getting 4K 120 Hz RGB 10b 4L10 HDR10 and freesync VRR works. Was not expecting VRR to happen. Not getting 144 Hz but i am just going to count my blessings on this one.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:31:37 PM No.105622416
>>105618565
Sounds like an issue I had where the drive wasn't waking up. Disable the lockscreen so it wakes to desktop, and get a dmesg -w running. See if it prints any errors when you wake up that aren't getting logged to disk. I had to use nvme_core.default_ps_max_latency_us=0 to fix it on my Asrock b450.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:40:10 PM No.105622500
1725565812220344
1725565812220344
md5: 84ac20096b88041f8bf195dfecf02e48🔍
I fell for the endeavor meme
How to fix my mirrors?
I tried their ranked mirror script and reflector but I keep getting this error.
error: failed retrieving file 'extra.db' from mirror.moson.org : Connection time-out
error: failed retrieving file 'multilib.db' from mirror.moson.org : Connection time-out
error: failed retrieving file 'lizardbyte.db' from github.com : Connection time-out
error: failed retrieving file 'endeavouros.db' from mirror.moson.org : Resolving timed out after 10023 milliseconds
warning: too many errors from mirror.moson.org, skipping for the remainder of this transaction
error: failed retrieving file 'core.db' from mirror.moson.org : Connection timed out after 10023 milliseconds
error: failed to synchronize all databases (failed to retrieve some files)
Replies: >>105622515 >>105623135
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:41:13 PM No.105622515
>>105622500
You should just be able to run reflector with the right commands for you and the mirrorlist should be all good.
Replies: >>105622567 >>105622588
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:46:18 PM No.105622567
>>105622515
>You should just be able to run reflector with the right commands for you and the mirrorlist should be all good.
What are the right commands?
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:49:08 PM No.105622588
>>105622515
reflector --latest 10 --age 12 --sort rate --save /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist
Because this didn't do much.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:05:07 PM No.105622717
>>105619559
>Why? It's literally the better of the two browsers.
Because they started to do stupid decisions and added things I didn't like, I've been wanting to switch for a long while but nothing better exists. So yes, it's the better option but still it could be better. I've loved it back then but now it's just the lesser evil.

>>105619213
doesn't exist without firefox and I don't want something as security relevant as a browser to be handled by a too small dev team. All the firefox forks fall under this problem.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:18:28 PM No.105622824
Is it possible to use cloudflare warp on Mint without following the official instruction? Don't want to add a PPA for fucking Cloudflare. I tried this
https://github.com/ViRb3/wgcf
but it gives me "TLS handshake timeout" when trying to register.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:19:00 PM No.105622828
Why is Fedora so goated?
Replies: >>105622877
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:23:47 PM No.105622877
>>105622828
RedHat is the only relevant entity (aside from Valve) which is investing into Linux desktop. And Fedora is basically owned by RH.
So, Fedora is "goated" because a corporation is actually investing resources into improving it.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:25:30 PM No.105622889
Sell me on Bazzite.
Is it just Fedora+Bloat or Fedora+6 CLI commands for multimedia support
Replies: >>105623056
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:31:48 PM No.105622930
1719489543726502
1719489543726502
md5: 45e52d2adb8bb5dcac587653380fb831🔍
How to get games working under bottles/wine when wayland refuse to run it properly even when I use gamescope?
For example to run syberia I need to sue this
xdotool selectwindow windowunmap
What's the way I can do this with wayland?
Replies: >>105623143 >>105623576 >>105623701
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:45:39 PM No.105623056
>>105622889
It's just Fedora which works better ootb than any other distro. "Bloat" is subjective.
Replies: >>105623117 >>105623635
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:50:40 PM No.105623117
>>105623056
Does it really work better than say, Mint?
Replies: >>105623199
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:51:12 PM No.105623123
Podman is filtering me. Making webstorm run a simple node template with a node container was hell
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:52:49 PM No.105623135
>>105622500
use the gui tool and select the mirrors appropriate to your location.
Replies: >>105623562
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:53:18 PM No.105623143
>>105622930
Run them through proton. I fucked around with gamescope a bunch to avoid shit like games becoming unresponsive if you alt tab or whatever, and then I learned that running them via proton just fixes it.
Replies: >>105623570
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:58:07 PM No.105623199
>>105623117
Yes. Especially since it has more up-to-date dependencies and software.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:06:59 PM No.105623283
Is there a way to force the desktop compositor to run at 120fps on a 165hz display using VRR?
30/60fps youtube videos stutter when they aren't running in full screen because VRR doesn't engage.
I could set the refresh rate of my monitor to 120fps, but then when I'm gaming I have to manually change the refresh rate.
I'm using KDE btw.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:18:29 PM No.105623379
>>105614354
You mean things like driver backports? Then I think Ubuntu's GA kernel is what you want. Up to 12 years of support and afaik no new features, only fixes.
Replies: >>105623527
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:30:55 PM No.105623489
>>105620191
Been trying to compile the rest of the initial toolchain but something is wrong with libstdc++ and I have no idea what. Fuck.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:35:20 PM No.105623521
>>105606860
Just make a simple sh script that sets $HOME somewhere else so that all those shitty programs that dont respect xdg get dumped there instead
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:35:45 PM No.105623527
>>105623379
https://ubuntu.com/kernel/lifecycle
I've been looking at these pages for 10 minutes straight and still have no idea whether the GA kernel gets patches past the 5 year point with Ubuntu Pro.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:39:33 PM No.105623562
>>105623135
>use the gui tool and select the mirrors appropriate to your location.
How do I know that if I don't live in those countries?
Replies: >>105625000
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:40:34 PM No.105623570
>>105623143
I don't want to bother with steam
Replies: >>105623850
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:41:03 PM No.105623576
>>105622930
I've never, ever seen a game that needed xdotool.
Replies: >>105623640
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:44:27 PM No.105623609
1735570753186703
1735570753186703
md5: 339f0f48f2391969114a793837e19413🔍
Is it me or retroarch is mess for getting games to work like (PSP/PS1/DS/PS2)?
I tried hotel dusk with the melon DS, and I couldn't figureout a way to rotete the screen or set up the proper keybinds.
Replies: >>105623741
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:46:10 PM No.105623624
>use Lutris
>install bloat windows launchers
>some need proton
>some need wine
>some need some other version of wine
>only know through trial and error

>use UMU/Faugus Launcher
>install bloat windows launchers
>everything just works

What does Lutris achieve by being the way it is
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:46:59 PM No.105623630
>>105613464
Most of the half a gig stuff is actually from cuda itself i think
On arch the cuda package is like 2GB
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:47:23 PM No.105623635
>>105623056
Sounds like a nvidia cope.
Fedora worked perfectly every single time I try it on AMD
Replies: >>105624609
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:48:11 PM No.105623640
1745007775508370
1745007775508370
md5: 934cf009b1429b20dbace5f07341dad1🔍
>>105623576
You're not playing games worth your while then.
Try syberia, commands 1&2, C&C:RA2YR, C&C:G0H, AoE
Replies: >>105623701
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:52:08 PM No.105623672
>>105621755
Nobody uses bazzite
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:53:22 PM No.105623681
1726365586886878
1726365586886878
md5: 5bff428506ccb253d02f1ed7639c9477🔍
Which is better?
>use the native linux port of a game
>use the windows version and run it under wine
On wayland btw
Replies: >>105623692 >>105623712 >>105623732 >>105623895 >>105624609
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:55:12 PM No.105623692
>>105623681
Sadly, in many cases, the later.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:56:37 PM No.105623701
>>105622930
If you're trying to run xdotool inside gamescope while outside of gamescope you might need to change your $DISPLAY and $WAYLAND_DISPLAY variables before running xdotool
I have no idea what variables gamescope uses for those two vars, check /run/user/$(id -u)/ and /tmp/.X11-unix
You should already have wayland-1 and X0 in there, so whichever ones arent those are the ones you're looking for
>>105623640
Why do you need xdotool for rts games?
>t. played ra2 since i was 10
Replies: >>105623762
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:58:06 PM No.105623712
>>105623681
>Which is better?
Left 120%
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:01:23 PM No.105623732
>>105623681
Depends entirely on the game. Usually the Proton version is better though since game devs are a hell of a lot more familiar with DirectX.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:02:54 PM No.105623741
>>105623609
That's a sad pic.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:05:31 PM No.105623762
>>105623701
>Why do you need xdotool for rts games?
Fix an issue with invisible window
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:15:43 PM No.105623821
>>105620191
I think I'll ditch this whole LFS idea and try to bootstrap LLVM and MUSL tomorrow with as little dependencies as possible. Following LFS is boring anyways. I think I've understood how a compiler toolchain should be bootstrapped for a new system.

For example GCC:
>get some system with gcc and its deps
>build intermediate gcc with minimal features, as much static linking as possible and install to some temp location
>build target gcc with the intermediate gcc to final /

Idk I pulled that out of my ass, probably wrong, I'll read more about it tomorrow.
Replies: >>105623837 >>105623861
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:17:20 PM No.105623837
>>105623821
>try to bootstrap LLVM and MUSL
o7
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:19:13 PM No.105623850
>>105623570
I do it via heroic
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:20:41 PM No.105623861
>>105623821
I forgot glibc from that equation:
>get some system with gcc, glibc and their deps
>build intermediate musl with minimal features, as much static linking as possible and install to some temp location
>build intermediate gcc with minimal features, as much static linking as possible and install to some temp location and configure it to use the intermediate musl as glibc instead of the local glibc
>build target musl with the intermediate gcc to final /
>build target gcc with the intermediate gcc to final / and configure it to use the target musl

I don't fucking know... It's a dependency hell, it seems?
Replies: >>105623875
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:22:21 PM No.105623875
ENDING IT
ENDING IT
md5: 32bdc0366bf902f90361669293cb161a🔍
>>105623861
>about to find out how endemic glibc really is
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:26:11 PM No.105623895
>>105623681
Very game dependent, some games have shit native ports.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 9:59:13 PM No.105624137
1724185933060148
1724185933060148
md5: b9f2c27785a8597b02a6711bcfe4926e🔍
After closing bottles I still get some winedevice.exe process.
Is this normal? how to close it.
Replies: >>105624159
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:03:06 PM No.105624159
>>105624137
happens often sadly, just kill it.
Replies: >>105624348
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:27:25 PM No.105624348
>>105624159
So it's not some malicious program from my pirated games?
Replies: >>105624374
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:30:06 PM No.105624374
>>105624348
no, that's wine shitting itself when the programm didn't exit as expected or something. Quite annoying.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 10:56:19 PM No.105624609
>>105623635
"Working" and "being well set-up out of the box" are two completely different things, anon.
Debian also works fine, yet people opt to use Ubuntu or Mint on desktops.

>>105623681
Windows version is almost always better. Linux native versions often have one or more of the following issues:
>the "port" is just pre-packaged with an outdated WINE version
>the game is weeks, months or years out of date
>the game only works on some distros
>the mods for the game are only made for Windows
>the game requires some outdated dependency
Running games in WINE or Proton solves all of these issues.
Replies: >>105625915 >>105628155
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:21:04 PM No.105624834
how do i write rules for pipewire to switch default output when i connect audio interface?
Replies: >>105624845
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:22:20 PM No.105624845
>>105624834
read the documentation, or at least ask chatgpt you dumb nigger
Replies: >>105624873
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:24:42 PM No.105624864
>try to install openBSD on shitop i have sitting around
>instantly spergs out about not having drivers for anything
i don't know what i expected.
Replies: >>105624961
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:26:17 PM No.105624873
>>105624845
i have personal vendetta against llms not because i'm a troglodyte but because it's humiliating
Replies: >>105624887
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:27:47 PM No.105624887
>>105624873
they're quite useful, you don't have to use the output but you can at least learn from it.
i had gemini write me a port knocking script that i used to write my own last week
Replies: >>105624893
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:29:16 PM No.105624893
>>105624887
i think i'll have to concede
what's the meta? i've tried deepseek when r1 came out and it was quite a lot better than chatgpt at the time
i know there's something like claude but i think it's paywalled and there's also gemini which is supposed to be good but i hate google with passion
Replies: >>105624906
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:31:16 PM No.105624906
>>105624893
gemini bothers me less with asking to log in. it has worked for my needs which include writing small c programs. try them all and compare the outputs. gemini does a good enough job of documenting the code from my experience.
Replies: >>105624912
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:32:08 PM No.105624912
>>105624906
i was thinking more about math, language learning and literature less coding
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:37:11 PM No.105624961
>>105624864
Always a thing with laptops. I imagine it's probably wifi card shit
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:40:50 PM No.105625000
>>105623562
pick the ones closest to you or in the same continent as you are.
Replies: >>105625108
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:50:17 PM No.105625096
1733099595886398
1733099595886398
md5: 5913666726adc7ee099d223669507ed8🔍
Arch is solid rolling release distro, but the lack of basic packages really make it a timesink distro, I mean at least it should include intel drivers.
The wiki need to be updated more, many things straight away don't work anymore.
And there should be some basic optional arch theming, at least this should cut down on arch imitators.
Replies: >>105625158 >>105625164 >>105625168 >>105626601
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:51:18 PM No.105625108
>>105625000
I tried same issue.
I tested if maybe it's some connection issues, but I can ping the mirrors just fine.
Replies: >>105625193
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:55:26 PM No.105625143
When's Debian Trixie going mainline? I wanna decide on either 13 or LMDE 7 when it comes out. Also, I just realized I could've automated my updates, what other tips and tricks should I know for a fresh install for Debian or something based on it?
>inb4 install arch
Replies: >>105625270 >>105626106
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:56:49 PM No.105625158
>>105625096
>lack of basic packages
like what?
>intel drivers
they're in the repo not sure what you mean here
Replies: >>105625427 >>105625906
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:57:36 PM No.105625164
>>105625096
They are leaking volunteers. Wiki is obviously in an awful state, especially outside basic installation setup. And a lot of the packages are effectively unmaintained and updated less regularly. I miss the heydays of Arch.
I thought SteamOS and Steam Deck would revitalize Arch, but it's now worse than ever.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 11:57:52 PM No.105625168
>>105625096
>intel drivers.
the fuck are you talking about?
>wiki need to be updated more, many things straight away don't work anymore.
I won't say it doesn't happen but many is an overstatement.
>basic optional arch theming
The theme is that there is none
Replies: >>105625582
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:01:12 AM No.105625193
>>105625108
flatten and rebuild.
Replies: >>105625649
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:11:05 AM No.105625270
>>105625143
I'm running sid without issues.
Replies: >>105625282 >>105626106
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:12:27 AM No.105625282
>>105625270
i'm running a train on your mom without issues.
Replies: >>105625305
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:15:36 AM No.105625305
1742655240211980
1742655240211980
md5: 14ad9b7002a540e54c11c578383a57e3🔍
>>105625282
>i'm running a train on your mom without issues.
Replies: >>105625330
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:18:57 AM No.105625330
>>105625305
that pic is old. i've lost 47 pounds
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:20:30 AM No.105625340
>b550 steel legend + 5800x3d
>windows shuts down and restarts normally without issues
>switch to linux (manjaro)
>75% chance of code 30 (system waking up from sleep S3) on restart / startup after shutdown (it's not even fucking consistent)
>it won't POST until a full power cycle
>literally nothing on the entire internet about this issue aside form "i updated my bios and now it works I'm so silly :)"
>argb controller also breaks completely until a power cycle (only if I shut down from linux)
I'm going to go mental, I downgraded kernel, I reconfigured refind, killed off every single mention of hibernate or hybrid sleep, unplugged USBs, updated the bios, turned off fast boot, and nothing works
I'm a bit tired of troubleshooting bros
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:30:31 AM No.105625427
>>105625158
Not included in the base install.
The base install is too base, I don't want to know what net install even do
Replies: >>105625438 >>105625851
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:31:03 AM No.105625432
Has anyone tried this before? Does it work?
>https://github.com/Chrysostomus/hibernator
Replies: >>105625982 >>105626083
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:32:02 AM No.105625438
>>105625427
there is no "base install" you have to pick what you want to install, that's the whole appeal
Replies: >>105625445 >>105625906 >>105625906
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:32:49 AM No.105625445
>>105625438
he mean the install script
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:49:13 AM No.105625582
>>105625168
>The theme is that there is none
which is why we have these clowns
>manjaro
>garuda
>endeavor
>artrix
>mabox
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:58:43 AM No.105625649
>>105625193
>flatten and rebuild.
what ?
Format everything?
Replies: >>105626468
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:27:16 AM No.105625840
kernel.org
kernel.org
md5: a74e6ab31af9830fbb7c9aacf58016cb🔍
My CPU is from 2022 and I don't use "exotic" filesystems such as btrfs nor do I have USB4. Is there any reason to go beyond 6.12.x?
Replies: >>105626068
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:29:01 AM No.105625851
>>105625427
The whole point of arch is setting up the whole thing. People that want to use "arch" without being up to do the legwork (aka people that just use install scripts or arch based distros) are bound to have headaches down the road. Its assumed that you know how your system works because you should have set it up from the ground up and guess whats the step you want to skip.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:36:00 AM No.105625906
wifi cable
wifi cable
md5: dafbce5a1eb6558ef8a14e7c9135b514🔍
>>105625438
I assume by base install he meant the "base" package.
>>105625158
Guess he did a base install and figured there wasn't Wi-Fi support included and had no Wi-Fi-cable option as lives in a dorm or whatever and now he's crying because of "Arch's broken networking". Heard the story on /fglt/ numerous times. Sort of understandable as there's no warnings on this on the install guide AND because the live environment comes with Wi-Fi support.
Easy fix though: chroot back in via the live media and install the missing parts.
>>105625438
Yes there is.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:37:24 AM No.105625915
>>105624609
Most of this should be a non-issue, Steam provides its own Linux runtimes for games.
Replies: >>105628093
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:49:56 AM No.105625982
>>105625432
No answer so I tried it.
Now running systemctl hibernate returns this:
>Call to Hibernate failed: Not running on EFI and resume= is not set, or noresume is set. No available method to resume from hibernation
The script said there was alaready a resume hook present. I think it's from Cinnamon which was originally installed on this computer but I'm not sure. How do I fix it?
Replies: >>105626083
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 1:50:41 AM No.105625989
I was thinking about learning about devops and how to set up a server via some virtual macine, is Arch good for that or should I get another distro?

What distro is usually used by professionals? Ubuntu?
Replies: >>105626057 >>105626464 >>105626638
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:02:27 AM No.105626057
>>105625989
>how to set up a server via some virtual macine
Sure a cheap VPS would be more useful?
>What distro is usually used by professionals? Ubuntu?
It's still Debian.
Replies: >>105626451
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:04:30 AM No.105626068
>>105625840
If you don't have a recent GPU either just stick with longterm/lts and enjoy a more stable kernel.
Replies: >>105626106
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:05:18 AM No.105626071
I got this error running makepkg in /librewolf-bin
cp: target '/home/liam/Downloads/Arch User Repository/librewolf-bin/pkg/librewolf-bin/usr/lib/librewolf': No such file or directory
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in package().
Aborting...
How can i fix it?
Replies: >>105626375 >>105626437
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:07:20 AM No.105626083
>>105625982
>>105625432
A whole ass script for simply creating a swap partition/file and passing it as a kernel command line argument so the kernel can check for a session to resume? Something you configure once and never touch again? Are you for real?
Replies: >>105626097
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:09:40 AM No.105626097
>>105626083
Yep.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:10:29 AM No.105626106
headquarters
headquarters
md5: f413b59279bce7a33bd3877416d4a21a🔍
>>105626068
Kernel "stability" = working Bluetooth.
>GPU
Using an AMD GPU if that's relevant. How do I figure it's "recent"?
>>105625270
How's that relevant?
>>105625143
What does going mainline mean?
Replies: >>105626145
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:15:49 AM No.105626145
>>105626106
I meant stable, shit.
Replies: >>105626427
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:53:37 AM No.105626375
>>105626071
sometimes you have to delete the folder and run git clone again
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:02:24 AM No.105626427
>>105626145
>stable
lol
lmao even
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:03:25 AM No.105626437
>>105626071
you dont
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:04:26 AM No.105626451
>>105626057
>It's still garbage
We know.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:05:37 AM No.105626464
>>105625989
RHEL
It's that shrimple.
inb4 cope
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:06:37 AM No.105626468
>>105625649
yes
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:07:38 AM No.105626473
New thread:
>>105626424
Replies: >>105626542
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:16:18 AM No.105626542
>>105626473
How about a less gay OP?
Replies: >>105626549
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:17:13 AM No.105626549
>>105626542
How about a less gay you?
Replies: >>105626570
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:20:17 AM No.105626570
>>105626549
Ironic coming from a faggot.
Replies: >>105626607
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:23:38 AM No.105626601
>>105625096
I was wondering why arch doesn't even include printer drivers, I can't remember if it was an actual contributor or just someone from the forums saying it but he said something like
>not everyone uses a printer
and I think I agree
I can just grab the packages I need, especially the ones I prefer using instead of having a default I didn't want shoved into my face
Arch isn't meant to be babby's first distro anyway
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:24:34 AM No.105626607
>>105626570
rent free
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:28:14 AM No.105626638
>>105625989
Debian
If you're considering running multiple VMs and have a PC with modest specs you're willing to convert into a server, give Proxmox a try
Nothing beats learning through experience, by running real programs and services you'd actually use
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 6:19:24 AM No.105627602
okay so i looked into doing a dual boot but my EFI partition is 100mb
what is the best program i can use to set it to at least 1gb (arch wiki says you can go up to 4 if needed)
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:23:34 AM No.105627977
>>105620773
Gentoo is the best at doing though. That's why it has all of those internals in the first place. You don't really get the best out of it if you don't learn how Portage works.
Do that and then you can get on with doing the things that actually matter, because I don't actually care how to build a cross-compiler, crossdev can do that for me. What I do care about is building packages and ease of maintaining the system.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:43:05 AM No.105628093
>>105625915
Not everyone is playing games exclusively on Steam
Replies: >>105628134
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:44:59 AM No.105628109
>>105621742
install gentoo
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:48:55 AM No.105628134
>>105628093
You can add non-Steam games to Steam to launch. Otherwise, just use Lutris or whatever the cool kids are using nowadays to run non-Steam games.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 7:53:26 AM No.105628155
>>105624609
I still havent heard about any of these so called optimizations.
Still sounds like a meme to me