Thread 105599363 - /g/ [Archived: 1098 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:23:58 AM No.105599363
ack
ack
md5: d3aa05bce6fabf96cd328ea1555b3e38🔍
Sorry, guys, but I'll keep using Xorg.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:30:12 AM No.105599404
>>105599363 (OP)
How is lunduke a neo nazi?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:31:52 AM No.105599412
>>105599363 (OP)
Why the fuck these mongoloids keep calling boomer centrism "neonazi" is beyond me.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:32:34 AM No.105599419
>>105599404
It just means "not a communist"
You can't assume leftists use words thoughtfully, it's just ingroup/outgroup
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:50:49 AM No.105599532
>>105599363 (OP)
>xorg
doesn't work on my machine
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:58:39 AM No.105599571
>>105599404
He supports the holocaust of Palestinians
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:00:48 PM No.105599583
struggling
struggling
md5: 62e93dd560a8e52d929ecf4ad6099b0a🔍
>>105599412
While not focused solely on technology I do like to discuss the erosion of language and I don't mind discussing pieces of the overton window.
The issue also persists among centrists who lean towards the right like the current Labour government in the UK. They have a long standing issue of calling things far right, in some cases they are correct but in other cases they are unfortunately mistaken and it's just right wing beliefs.
This dissonance stems from they, themselves existing to the right of centre — often embodying beliefs that go beyond the dominant "right" party in an effort to appear tough or appeal to overs — and thus since they believe that they are the centre in a traditionally centre left party that things farther to the right of them are far right.

As the overton window shifts and slides, the centrist dads are just right or right of centre, sometimes they hold authoritarian beliefs that are built on technocracy which yes often appears fascist in nature. They are conflating fascism with authoritarianism.
Therefore when it comes to a term like neonazi, they pick up on that because they are seeing elements of fascism or authoritarianism within a structure and apply the label nazi.
This happens because people overused the term nazi quite significantly over time and such the erosion is baked in even when applied to terms like neonazi. Much like labelling xenophobia as racism, this dilution and erosion of language is the problematic element; all is service of giving everything a label because it can make it appear scathing.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:02:11 PM No.105599589
>>105599363 (OP)
How can someone with such a low IQ even code? I dont understand.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:06:26 PM No.105599600
>>105599363 (OP)
see what I don't get is if lunduke really was pulling the wool over people's eyes, all they would have to do is release a public statement and post all the relevant information.

but instead they just make angry posts that have no substance at all.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:10:13 PM No.105599614
>>105599589
Technical knowledge doens't often mean political awareness
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:11:10 PM No.105599621
>>105599363 (OP)
So let me get thus straight: The same person that accuses others of being fascists and neo-nazi clowns calls people that disagree with him/her homonuculus? Quite sad that this irony is lost to the author apparently.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:14:03 PM No.105599635
>>105599404
>>105599412
Lunduke is literally a jew, leftists are just retarded.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:20:27 PM No.105599671
>>105599635
So?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:31:04 PM No.105599728
>>105599671
You can't be a nazi and a jew. It's like saying a man can be a woman.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:39:22 PM No.105599772
>>105599728
>you can't be a jew and advocate for racial darwinism and slaughtering of "inferior" races
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 12:44:33 PM No.105599802
>>105599772
Yes. There's no race inferior to jews.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:42:54 PM No.105600422
>>105599363 (OP)
The more they seeth the more it's visible how afraid they are that they don't matter. These political activists have an urge to control others and when they lose control they lose their minds. They are literally mentally ill.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:43:05 PM No.105600424
>>105599728
literally every single leftist thinks the jews are the prime example of nazis right now
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:46:32 PM No.105600441
>>105599419
these commies think everyone is a nazi
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:52:34 PM No.105600481
>>105599802
To antisemites. But to nazi zionist Jews there is no race *superior* to jews
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 2:54:30 PM No.105600497
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Screenshot_2025-06-15_14-54-02
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xorg just werks
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:22:25 PM No.105600700
>>105599363 (OP)
>Liberal nonsense buzzwords.
Dont care
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:24:38 PM No.105600710
>>105600497
Upgrade your kernel
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:29:13 PM No.105600739
>>105599404
it's how neo nazi's distract others into believe someone else is the neo nazi
look at their actions and you'll quickly see who is actually the neo nazis
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 3:43:52 PM No.105600852
>>105600710
already done, I just haven't rebooted my machine yet
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:21:45 PM No.105601110
>>105599404
Because communists are in a religious cult.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:27:08 PM No.105601153
>>105599363 (OP)
>crying about fascists and neonazis
must be russian
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:27:08 PM No.105601154
I hate leftists so god damn much bros.
These people are open tankies that support 1984 style statist enslavement.
How the fuck did they take over the open source movement?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:39:29 PM No.105601240
>>105601154
I'm one of them desu. Chuds are annoying capitalismbrainlets that always expect something in return. When they do open source stuff they either do managed hosting, freemium or ads. Only people who believe in helping others for the greater good stay and get control desu.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:42:37 PM No.105601255
>>105601240
This. We survived for millions of years because we stayed together and shared our resources.
Live for the greater good, or die for yourself.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 4:57:27 PM No.105601341
>>105601240
Communism is not about sharing, it's about enslaving everyone but the party elite
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:02:09 PM No.105601374
>>105601341
grow up kiddo
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:16:58 PM No.105601490
>>105601341
We should ban Americans from the internet because all their history knowledge comes from their shit two party propaganda system designed to make them work forever and never fight back
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:26:17 PM No.105601567
>>105601154
There is plenty of rightists who work in the software sector. But only leftists work for free.
Some rightists are exceptions to the rule of course.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:27:09 PM No.105601575
>>105601341
>it's about enslaving everyone but the party elite
how is this any different from current day USA?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:46:15 PM No.105601703
>>105601575
In the USA you have formally the right to own guns, form a militia and kill the party elite.
Sadly heavy communist influences reduced this right to "on paper only".
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:52:40 PM No.105601759
>>105601703
so even rightoids are under putin's influence?
the fuck is wrong with this country?
leftoids are commies, rightoids lick their boots and jeff bezos and his boybands buy another yatch for $500m to go to epstein islands to avoid being written doww in the flybook...
great
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:56:10 PM No.105601779
>>105601759
> so even rightoids are under putin's influence?
Try CCP.
But yes, US politics is deeply infiltrated by CCP communists.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 5:58:51 PM No.105601795
>>105601779
good luck from accross the pond, you'll need it ot overcome all this nonsense
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:48:15 PM No.105602208
>>105601779
Just so you know, the rest of the world will aid CCP since you burned all the bridges
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 6:52:23 PM No.105602237
x11jeet thread
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:41:50 PM No.105602665
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1748700400345654
md5: ce3be102992e48c7669c5c38f4fcd0d0🔍
>>105601240
>capitalismbrainlets
Because they don't want to live in an authoritarian dictatorship and be forced into poverty?
Tell us how smart you are for wanting to suffer and die lmao

>>105601374
>communist manbaby telling others to grow up
Growing up means not being an authoritarian child.
>>105601490
>if you actually read history and read into marxism and question it that means you're brainwashed
You people don't deserve to vote.
You want to be perpetual slaves.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:43:29 PM No.105602679
>>105601240
>greater good
This is what I hate most about communists actually.
They want the most amount of human suffering imaginable yet at the same time claim to want to help people. It's infuriating.
If they just straight out came out and admitted they want the worst for everyone, they would be respected more.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:44:33 PM No.105602690
>>105601255
>We survived for millions of years because we stayed together and shared our resources.
Mutual benefit is literally what capitalism is built on.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:47:40 PM No.105602715
>>105601575
>how is this any different from current day USA?
>statism is why USA is bad so clearly the answer is more statism
braindead take
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:53:25 PM No.105602770
>>105601490
>>105601374
please enlighten us on how the ussr and maoist china were worker's paradises

btw the red scare was based and didn't go far enough
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:19:14 PM No.105604019
>>105602715
the absolute state of the US school system
nice reading and inference skills, you fucking retards, are you parent brother and sister and you just drunk led-poisoned water all your fucking life?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:30:01 PM No.105604107
>>105604019
>the absolute state of the US school system
But it's socialist. I thought you loved socialism?
Wait are you now saying central planning doesn't work? lol
>nice reading and inference skills
Look in the mirror. You totally missed my point.
>led-poisoned
don't you mean "lead" you illiterate socialist europoor?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:37:22 PM No.105604159
>>105604107
>But it's socialist. I thought you loved socialism?
no I don't
socialism is pure cancer and need to be erradicated, just like the current crony capitalism in the west, I want true capitalism back.
>Look in the mirror. You totally missed my point.
your point? which point?
I'm 100% sure that we agree on basically everything, you're just projecting WAY TOO MUCH my dood...
communist states and the west oligarchies have similar structures, the post I responded to describe the end result of both crony capitalism and communism
>don't you mean "lead"
yeah
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:43:14 PM No.105604201
>>105599412
Imagine you live in an ultra-leftist tranny bubble for a second. You're constantly flushed by increasingly deranged takes on everything. Of course, if you are forced to leave it once in a blue moon, everything else will seem far-right, even CNN.
Add to that that most of them haven't even listened to a single second of Lunduke or any other ""based conservative"" centrist boomer but rather heard him be called an evil far-right Nazi by all the other lefties around them.
One other point is that they view politics through an identity lens; either you're a brave and stunning fighter for equality, human rights and democracy or an evil, backward uneducated Nazi who wants to kill all POCs and Trans Kweenz. Part of that is that no matter what right wing opinion you express, you'll always be a "Nazi" to them; another is that they genuinely believe MAGA-boomers are actually fascist sleeper cells waiting for the right signal to start lynching brown people in the streets and that they're just pretending not to, since their subconscious instinctively feels that the right must surely be as deranged as the left is.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:45:05 PM No.105604215
reminder that gayland is almost 20 years old and still isn't production ready
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:47:33 PM No.105604238
>>105604159
>socialism is pure cancer and need to be erradicated, just like the current crony capitalism in the west, I want true capitalism back.
Based
>I'm 100% sure that we agree on basically everything
Based

Friendly fire, my bad desu
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:48:38 PM No.105604251
>>105604215
I've got a bridge to sell you if you think the point of wayland is actually working and not making sure Daniel Stone and the rest of Collabora get support contracts for the next 20 years. Wayland today is unrecognizably trooned out compared to the original kiosk protocol designed by Kristian Hogsberg.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:56:03 PM No.105604321
checked this guys masto and my god he has some wicked brain worms living rent free. commie shit and x11 vs wayland is all he talks about. if i ever met anyone irl that talked like this i would make it my express goal to stay as far away as fucking possible
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:57:15 PM No.105604330
>>105599589
IQ is a measure of intelligence, not knowledge.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 10:57:48 PM No.105604338
>>105604251
It's obvious that gayland and gnome troons only care about their redhat paychecks.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:00:13 PM No.105604366
>>105604251
>>105604321
>>105604338
even though I could just use Linux, this type of stuff why I will just end up buying a Mac, to replace my Win10 system
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:06:23 PM No.105604420
>>105604321
>masto
Isn't like everywhere there a commie that wants the ussr back?
How the fuck does this even happen to people?
It blows my mind every time thinking about it.
Replies: >>105604504
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:13:46 PM No.105604504
>>105604420
I don't believe Mastodon is like that, but anyway: I'd assume the worst offender is subverted higher education. These types like to think of themselves as educated, but brainwashed would be a better word. It's cool to want to help people and whatnot, but Marx and adjacent shit is as far removed from that as possible, and part of that brainwashing is instilling a blind faith that the aforementioned isn't true.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:16:00 PM No.105604527
KiCad and Wayland Support
KiCad and Wayland Support
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2025 and applications that aren't notepad.exe or explorer.exe clones still don't work in wayland lmao
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:18:07 PM No.105604547
>>105604527
I thought xwayland solves everything?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:18:43 PM No.105604553
zamundaa lying about kicad and wayland
zamundaa lying about kicad and wayland
md5: 1560fabb152534860e95a7d753a914df🔍
Bonus points for KDE's chief shill lying about wayland protocol support and core issues. Pointer warp support isn't even in a staging release yet and is years away from being stable, while wayland frequently crashes applications or itself because of mouse event spam.
>>105604547
This is about native wayland support.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:23:11 PM No.105604606
>>105604553
>while wayland frequently crashes applications or itself because of mouse event spam.
this is an application problem that happens when application try to behave like they did on x11. aka bad porting to wayland.
>window positioning restoration
basically 99% of your complaints, and while important sure, it's definitely not a "core issue" lmao.
Replies: >>105604624 >>105604694 >>105605357
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:23:56 PM No.105604612
>>105604527
red hat unironically put retards with huge egos in charge of gayland and gnome to sabotage linux desktop
it's like putting a reddit or old forum mod in charge of someting and expecting good results
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:25:48 PM No.105604624
>>105604606
It's not an application problem that they don't want to implementation their own load balancer.
https://www.phoronix.com/news/Wayland-Proxy-Firefox
Do you know what Xorg does when the compositor message cache is nearly full? It expands the cache bigger because it's functionally impossible to exhaust the system that way. Not on wayland, where the cache size is sacred and you're a fucking chud for using a >1000 hz mouse.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:26:47 PM No.105604634
>>105604624
>plug in my razer deathadder 8k Hz
>gayland crashes
wooow
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:26:55 PM No.105604635
>>105604624
>hurr wayland behaves differently
correct, get used to it or fuckoff.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:27:12 PM No.105604638
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>>105599363 (OP)
is this behaviour a form of psychosis? i hate lunduke as much as the next guy but this is just straight up retarded
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:33:52 PM No.105604694
>>105604606
>basically 99% of your complaints, and while important sure, it's definitely not a "core issue" lmao.
it is a core issue of wayland that something so fucking basic doesn't work after 20 fucking years

software was able to restore their window position on windows 3 fucking 11 but apparently this ancient arcane knowledge got lost in 2025
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:48:32 PM No.105604813
>>105604635
>behaves differently
behaves worse
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:49:33 PM No.105604820
>>105604638
>i hate lunduke as much as the next guy
Why? I just started watching a few of his videos and he sounds based.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:52:38 PM No.105604844
>>105604820
his obsession with "the woke" is incredibly cringe
Replies: >>105605193
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:56:34 PM No.105604878
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1750024585359
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>>105604820
I bet you also watch this slop. Same category
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:30:19 AM No.105605193
>>105604878
>>105604844
>authoritarian far leftist religious cultists in the free software space shouldn't be criticized
I bet you are one of those people.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:42:57 AM No.105605299
>>105604527
Many such cases. Wayland devs have held everyone back for a decade because of stubbornness and flawed design.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:45:59 AM No.105605336
>>105599772
>slaughtering of "inferior" races
Hitler never advocated this.
Replies: >>105605595
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:48:45 AM No.105605357
>>105604606
applications should be expected to behave badly, since they are written by tons of different people with different skill levels, if it cant handle something that minimal its a piece of garbage
Replies: >>105605565
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:49:43 AM No.105605361
i really wish amerimutts took their circus politics away from foss
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:55:47 AM No.105605405
>>105604820
He's easy to dislike after shitting on Stallman.
Replies: >>105605615
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:16:55 AM No.105605565
>>105605357
>can't code but try to handle wayland anyways
the complexity was moved to toolkits, which handle wayland just fine.
Replies: >>105605585 >>105605613
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:19:13 AM No.105605585
>>105605565
if your compositor is crashing from excessive mouse events , you have a pile of shit, thats all I'm gonna say. It shouldn't crash from that.
Replies: >>105605622
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:20:06 AM No.105605595
>>105605336
Himmler advocated slaughtering even non-German "Aryans"
https://germanhistorydocs.org/en/nazi-germany-1933-1945/excerpt-from-himmlers-speech-to-the-ss-gruppenfuehrer-at-posen-october-4-1943
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:22:22 AM No.105605613
>>105605565
kicad uses qt
wayland is still a broken piece of shit
Replies: >>105605660
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:22:33 AM No.105605615
>>105605405
Stallman isn't an angel. He was pro forcing the vax on everyone.
He calls himself a left "libertarian"(read: authoritarian on things he doesnt like)
Replies: >>105605630 >>105605635 >>105605648
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:23:01 AM No.105605622
>>105605585
if you don't go through toolkits you need to learn how wayland works, and yes that does imply learning how to not crash your window through dozens of ways. this is an application problem, not a wayland problem.
Replies: >>105605799
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:23:38 AM No.105605630
>>105605615
Just say you are a M$ shill, faggot. Yes, Stallman is an angel
Replies: >>105605991
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:24:08 AM No.105605635
>>105605615
not taking the vaxx and endangering your neighbors violates the NAP
Replies: >>105605673 >>105605991
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:25:53 AM No.105605648
>>105605615
He took issue with free software itself. I agree that Stallman has bad takes, but I don't particularly blame him. He has to fit in or get cancelled again.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:26:53 AM No.105605660
>>105605613
>kicad uses qt
large applications tend to employ their own sets of hacks to get shit to work exactly how they want. these hacks need to be adapted to work on wayland, again an application problem.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:28:23 AM No.105605673
>>105605635
True. Sneezing on someone also violates the NAP and can be adequately and reasonably retaliated by recreational-purpose Nukes
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:28:38 AM No.105605678
>>105605660
the application works fine on windows, os x, and X
the only problem here is wayland
Replies: >>105605687
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:29:44 AM No.105605687
>>105605678
>application has a shitty wayland implementation
>it's the fault of wayland
are you being stupid on purpose?
Replies: >>105605722
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:35:22 AM No.105605722
>>105605687
>wayland doesn't properly support things kicad wants to do like restoring window sized and cursor warping
>it's the application's fault
are you?
Replies: >>105605756
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:39:21 AM No.105605756
>>105605722
yes wayland has limitations, yes wayland isn't x11; but wayland does in fact work, and there's thousands of applications that prove it.
your two arbitrary features are in the works and are in the process of being added to wayland. restoring the window position for example is in staging and is already implemented in a few compositors and will be in the qt and gtk before the end of the year.
Replies: >>105607148
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:44:42 AM No.105605799
>>105605622
wayland should be able to protect itself from user programs, otherwise its worse than the xserver.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:03:51 AM No.105605991
>>105605635
no it doesn't you illiterate retard
>>105605630
Cry about it
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:43:00 AM No.105606974
>>105604638
>i hate lunduke as much as the next guy
who hates lunduke?
Replies: >>105607012
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:45:31 AM No.105606982
>>105605660
from what i understand programs can't control the positions of their own windows on wayland nor embed other applications in subwindows at all, this may limit what kinds of large programs can be ported to wayland
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:51:19 AM No.105607008
politics need to be forcefully removed from software. fast
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:51:46 AM No.105607012
>>105606974
His whole 'adobe is striking me' bit was annoying. It was clearly not adobe (why would they send stuff from a gmail address??)
Replies: >>105607021
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:53:30 AM No.105607021
>>105607012
i haven't seen all of his content, but i've watched a number of them and haven't seen anything to warrant hating the guy
not familiar with what you're referring to there with adobe
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:56:03 AM No.105607039
>>105599363 (OP)
>Sebastian Wick
You got banned from Freedesktop. Your opinion is officially worthless.
Replies: >>105607122
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:01:20 AM No.105607067
>moronix is getting RHEL shekels
who would have thought
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:03:12 AM No.105607081
last week I fucked a chick younger than gayland
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:13:01 AM No.105607122
>>105607039
>got unbanned
>finished HDR and got it merged
say thank you
him getting banned caused HDR to stay unmerged for 6 months
Replies: >>105607906
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:17:20 AM No.105607148
>>105605756
Wayland doesn't really work, maybe if you have a particularly small use case and don't use a mouse with your computer.
Replies: >>105607769
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:27:34 AM No.105607769
>>105607148
>Wayland doesn't really work
cope anon. x11's death is looming on the horizon.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:43:13 AM No.105607835
>multiple competing wayland implementations = good
>someone dares to make a second competing x11 implementation = literally nazi
?
Replies: >>105607876 >>105607952
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:52:43 AM No.105607876
>>105607835
Enrico blasphemed against the hecking science juice and is guilty by reverse association with Brian "Das Grauen von Birkenau" Lunduke.
Replies: >>105607888
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:55:04 AM No.105607888
>>105607876
>https://github.com/X11Libre/xserver/pull/56
>Why is 2^16 wrong ? Shouldn't it result in exactly the same ?
this is your x server maintainer btw
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:59:39 AM No.105607906
>>105607122
GTK still does non-linear sRGB rendering by default. No thank you until that is addressed.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:10:01 AM No.105607952
>>105607835
x11 at this point isn't actively developed anymore, so yes he's breaking backwards compatibility for no reason. trying to bring x11 to the present is like the autists trying to make windows 7 a thing again.
i'm sure the reaction to the fork would've been far more open-minded if the maintainer didn't go on political rants in the issue tracker.
Replies: >>105607984
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:17:35 AM No.105607984
>>105607952
he didnt break anything serious, the issues were almost exclusive to nvidia due to them using some ancient functions nobody else does, and all this talk about him breaking shit is retarded anyway because the changes were on the master branch, and he never had a chance to fix it, not like an actual release ever happened with those changes.
Replies: >>105608014
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:27:01 AM No.105608014
>>105607984
fact is, no matter the patch is has potential to break stuff, which forces downstream to react to the patch.
downstream doesn't want to deal with x11 breakages anymore - x11 is deprecated and is actively being removed from everywhere. the last thing that anyone wants to do is track new security caused by random commits in x11.
the fork is too little, from the wrong people, too late. maybe a decade ago this could've worked with more relevant people before wayland took steam, but the reason it got abandoned in the first place a decade ago was because it was deemed unmaintainable by its own developers.
Replies: >>105608047 >>105608344
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:36:45 AM No.105608047
>>105608014
shit breaks all the time in mesa, and it gets fixed, doesnt require downstream changes, trying to preserve the master branch is silly when stable branches exist and the project is basically dead and will never see another major point release,

the freedesktop people are refusing to develop X which is fine, even understanable, but why they dont just hand it off gracefully if they dont want anything to do with it , doesnt make any sense.

they host plenty of random garbage that never went anywhere , why developing x in anyway ticks them off so much is anybodies guess.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:33:51 AM No.105608281
>>105604527
wayland users are mostly troons who have nothing better to do than rice their desktops and rewrite existing software in rust, so all they need is a web browser and a terminal
also they managed to fix the screensharing issue because of course these mentally ill freaks also use discord and they need the feature so badly
Replies: >>105608327
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:42:54 AM No.105608327
>>105608281
>can't use wayland because it doesn't implement x feature
>wayland added x feature
>can't use wayland because z
keep moving the goalposts anon. gnome is removing x11 next year then kde and the entire linux ecosystem will inevitably follow. tick-tock .
Replies: >>105608352 >>105608366
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:46:00 AM No.105608344
>>105608014
>because it was deemed unmaintainable by its own developers.
that's not true, stop spreading lies
Replies: >>105608361
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:47:17 AM No.105608352
>>105608327
what goalpost, that was my first post itt
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:49:04 AM No.105608361
>>105608344
>spend 20 years creating and maintaining a project then abandon it
why the fuck do you think they moved to wayland if they could just update x11?
Replies: >>105608400
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:49:58 AM No.105608366
>>105608327
Yeah, it's easier to try to make xorg unusable than attempting to make wayland usable.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:57:24 AM No.105608400
>>105608361

it was supposed to save them time effort , and fix some of the core issues with X's design,

I'm pretty sure they didn't think it was gonna take 15 fucking years to get a workable state, nor did they expect the huge number of problems that arose and difficulty achieving consensus, with that much time they could've rewrite X from scratch multple times.
Replies: >>105608430
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:01:35 AM No.105608429
>>105599363 (OP)
I never understood why people in it are so arrogant.
I mean things you are doing are super primitive no mater how it looks for a person who never worked with it..

do you know what aging is? It when the world is collectively doing something new and you are left aside. One day you will notice that you are alone and there is no way for you to connect to the youngsters.
That would be the day you know you are fucked.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:01:42 AM No.105608430
>>105608400
>15 fucking years to get a workable state
wayland has been the default (aka stable) in ubuntu and fedora since 2017.
Replies: >>105608438
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:03:27 AM No.105608435
>>105599363 (OP)
See you on Wayland in a couple years, chud
can't stop the future
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:03:51 AM No.105608438
>>105608430
it wasn't anywhere near stable at that time though
Replies: >>105608455
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:07:13 AM No.105608455
>>105608438
the problem about wayland is that a lot of people associate bugs with it that are in fact due to wayland implementations and not wayland itself.
applications, compositors and toolkits took a while to catch up and iron out bugs.
Replies: >>105608497 >>105608602
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:13:58 AM No.105608497
>>105608455
who and what bugs are you referring to? because most of what i hear is regarding missing functionality, not bugs in said functionality
Replies: >>105608524
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:20:09 AM No.105608524
>>105608497
>it wasn't anywhere near stable
wayland after all is just a set of protocols, if your compositor crashes, that's a compositor problem.
>missing functionality
the core was ready back in 2017. i was there, even if almost nothing ran native wayland back then.
Replies: >>105608727
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:36:29 AM No.105608602
>>105608455
bro the problem with wayland IS that it leaves everything to the compositor, everybody had to reinvent the wheel to get shit working.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:52:57 AM No.105608692
>>105599728
>You can't be a nazi and a jew.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emil_Maurice
>"and was one of several persons of mixed Jewish and ethnic German ancestry to serve in the SS"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_collaboration_with_Nazi_Germany
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:58:09 AM No.105608727
>>105608524
total horse shit , I'll admit I haven't used gnome in a while, but in 2017 it still crashed had major problems, I've been there since the beginning, I remember testing weston really early on, It was on board with the whole thing, and about 6 years ago, I really thought it was almost there, but here we are today and the plasma session still freezes, and the wlroots compositors I've tried in the past are still crashing/buggying out. the design of it is not good, I always find my self going back to the X11 session because it doesn't crash, and it doesn't randomly lockup my computer. I'm running fairly decent hardware too, nothing super old and nothing too new . The development cycle of wayland has been horrible, you'd have to be totally blind to think otherwise. so much redundant effort for buggy piles of crap.
Replies: >>105608760
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:01:18 AM No.105608741
>>105601240
I like capitalism and I contribute to FOSS
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:04:57 AM No.105608760
>>105608727
>I'll admit I haven't used gnome in a while
>plasma and weston
mutter is and has been from the start the flagship wayland compositor.
kde's wayland implementation is still relatively recent and weston is weston.
Replies: >>105608778 >>105608798
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:07:39 AM No.105608774
troonland is such a unsalvagable piece of shit that it must be scrapped and a new display server must be designed from scratch
>it's the future for 20 years
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:08:11 AM No.105608778
>>105608760
The plasma session is not new, its been available for nearly 10 years,
Replies: >>105608796
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:10:45 AM No.105608796
>>105608778
just because it's available doesn't mean it works
>Wayland support in the KDE Plasma Workspaces is in a tech-preview state. The workspaces have been developed for X11 and much functionality relies on X11
straight from the wiki anon.
Replies: >>105608805
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:10:53 AM No.105608798
>>105608760
mutter had molasses cursor under high gpu load the last time I used it, which was only a couple years ago.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:12:02 AM No.105608805
>>105608796
anon , how is a compositor that has been in development for 10 years " relatively recent" exactly.
Replies: >>105608819
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:12:54 AM No.105608811
How I feel about it
https://litter.catbox.moe/gza4f9vaw8sdbkt6.webm
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:14:35 AM No.105608819
>>105608805
it was only set as the default session for kde 6.0 last year in 2024, compared to mutter in 2017.
Replies: >>105608847
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:15:01 AM No.105608820
>>105601341
>>105602770
>btw the red scare was based and didn't go far enough
Good point! They betrayed the goal of communism while trying to achieve it. Communism is stateless and classless they created forever states with new oppressive classes.
>>105602665
Why are you posting an authoritarian dictator while saying this?
>>105602679
Some are psychopaths but most are just people who ended up with authoritarian systems they didn't want or ask for that betrayed their ideals of communism. Communism is probably the most misunderstood ideology by everyone whether they support it, oppose it or are neutral to it.
Replies: >>105608861
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:19:06 AM No.105608847
>>105608819
anon its BEEN 10 YEARS, do you understand how ridiculous that is ???. and just because they set it as the default session doesn't make it stable, I've used gnome since then (2017) and it was not in a good state on my machine.
Replies: >>105608862
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:20:54 AM No.105608856
And to think that ALL OF THIS discussion is about fucking rectangle managers with input bridges slapped on top.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:21:42 AM No.105608861
>>105608820
>>105601341
>>105602770
>please enlighten us on how the ussr and maoist china were worker's paradises
Kek I meant to say this is the good point
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:21:46 AM No.105608862
>>105608847
>i wrote one line of code 10 years ago therefore i've been working on it for 10 years.
development activity can't be summed up based on time anon, kde for example by their own words do not have the manpower to support both x11 and wayland which is why it took them so long to get this done, and even so their backend is completely fucked because it's supporting both x11 and wayland.
Replies: >>105608891 >>105608913
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:29:28 AM No.105608891
>>105608862
You can write a fairly stable compositor+ window manager in a fraction of the time on X, because you aren't mucking about with hardware interfaces.
and nobody who isn't qualified should be doing that because hardware tends to have a gazillion conditions that cause crashes, and undefined behavior.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:34:36 AM No.105608913
>>105608862
you act like gnome didn't have its own problems, its not been stable until recently either despite what the developers say, I've used both, and plasma was closer to being finished than gnome for the majority of that time. gnome's unique problem is that they ignore shit they don't consider important for a VERY long time.
Replies: >>105608943
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:40:33 AM No.105608943
>>105608913
dishonest kdtard as always
gnome 3 has buggy on release but very stable the years leading to 40
gnome 40 was stable from day 1
you can call out gnome's shit but stability is not one of them, krashde is a thing for a reason
Replies: >>105609018
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:51:06 AM No.105609018
>>105608943
I used gnome for over 10 years, you're just in denial, its not all sunshine and rainbows, The consequence of the compositor touching the kernel interfaces is that you hit hardware bugs and other fault conditions, and gpus have LOTS of them, and they are all different between them

keep coping and I hope it works out for you when you do finally hit a bug that sucks ass.
Replies: >>105609036
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:53:48 AM No.105609036
>>105609018
It's so weird that Linux pushed more and more graphics stuff into the kernel, while Windows did the opposite since MS realized that graphics driver bugs were the main source of crashes.
Replies: >>105609085
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:01:59 PM No.105609085
>>105609036
Then why is nvidia more complicated for me to deal with on windows than linux at this point
Replies: >>105609178
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:05:48 PM No.105609111
You know I used to feel sorry for him getting canceled, but when I found out he defended Kaiser in WWI and said Germany was "in the right", I hope they cancel him for good and I hope they dox him too
Replies: >>105609126
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:06:24 PM No.105609119
file
file
md5: ab1015895c5682065cf1f2fbfea6afac🔍
>>105599419
>You can't assume leftists use words thoughtfully
they are using them thoughtfully and intentionally to paint all of their enemies (no matter how benign the disagreement) as nazis
>>105599589
they're called code monkeys for a reason
>Jordan Petridis is a GNOME developer known for his work in Rust, Flatpak, and QA Engineering
pic rel is from his blog. these people are slimy as fuck
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:08:08 PM No.105609126
>>105609111
What do you have against the kaiser and ww1 germany in particular?
Replies: >>105609131 >>105609142
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:09:28 PM No.105609131
>>105609126
kaiser wilhelm was a huge retard
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:11:45 PM No.105609142
>>105609126
Butcher of Slavs. On the other hand, Austria-Hungary starting this war allowed Russia to liberate all Slavs under Austrian thumb, like Checoslovakia, Croatia and Slovenia, so there were positives. But if Kaisernigger did not come to defense of brutal Franz Joseph regime, much less deaths would be had in WWI with the same outcome.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:17:09 PM No.105609178
>>105609085
microsoft now writes part of their ui in react, so who knows what kind of monkey business they have going on under the hood.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:35:32 PM No.105609255
>>105604635
>In software development, regression refers to the reoccurrence of a bug or defect that was previously fixed or a previously working feature that is no longer functioning as expected after making changes or introducing a new code release.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:43:22 PM No.105609308
>>105599728
Hitler personally served an Iron Cross to his personal fatass Jewish physician because he cooked meth eyedrop for Hitler in his basement.