Thread 105602307 - /g/ [Archived: 919 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/15/2025, 7:00:38 PM No.105602307
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When are we getting AGI waifu?
What tech is missing?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:06:56 PM No.105602893
>>105602307 (OP)
I wuld prefer aa DEX waifu with, maybe, a bit of INT
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:38:55 PM No.105603145
>>105602307 (OP)
No tech, the problem lies on the ones building it. Censored to shit, made to pander to specific groups to the detriment of ability.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:43:00 PM No.105603183
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>>105602307 (OP)
Never, because AGI is a meme. You could make your own Chii right now if you had the smarts and work ethic of vedal987 tho
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:45:30 PM No.105603202
>>105602307 (OP)
>What tech is missing?
Human like AI
Precise, light but strong actuators
Light but energy dense batteries
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:46:42 PM No.105603211
>>105602307 (OP)
Like everything i guess
robotwaifutechnician
6/15/2025, 8:49:04 PM No.105603230
>>105603202
lipo batteries, llama3 they got special actuators too. im not telling you which you one. cant join my discord get fucked.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:50:40 PM No.105603247
>>105603145
yeah the tech already exists, I just want Sydney with some anime girl pngs attached, voice, VR, 3d, robot body unnecessary

I predict that ai progress is going to stall, companies are going to give up on "protecting public" and will start releasing progressively more uncensored models in a last ditch attempt to squeeze profit out of existing paradigm so i am reasonably confident we will get there eventually
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:51:32 PM No.105603252
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>>105602307 (OP)
What makes you think an AGI would fall in love with you?
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:51:34 PM No.105603254
>>105602307 (OP)
>What tech is missing?
Why would any intelligence like us?
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:53:18 PM No.105603269
>>105603230
>lipo batteries
Way too little energy for meaningful work
>llama3
Large language models generate text, they can't drive a robot.
>got special actuators too
Nothing strong, small and precise enough.

>cant join my discord get fucked
Fuck off
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:53:47 PM No.105603272
>>105603183
how does he do it? why is she funny? is neuro really just a gpt4 wrapper with a good prompt?
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robotwaifutechnician
6/15/2025, 8:55:12 PM No.105603276
>>105603269
no lipos are fine, for movement theres nvidia gr00t.
>fuck off
you fuck off n00b
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:56:41 PM No.105603289
>>105603272
>is neuro really just a gpt4 wrapper with a good prompt?
I think she's a lot more than that now, Vedal doesn't talk much about the tech behind Neuro (probably because no one who watches Neuro actually cares about that) so it's hard to gauge how much of Neuro is just a bunch of proprietary models put together vs. what Vedal programmed/coded. At the core Neuro is still mainly just an LLM though, I don't even know if she's a """reasoning""" model.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:57:24 PM No.105603297
>>105603269
>Way too little energy for meaningful work
It could have wireless charging points all across the house, like under the desk for instance.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:58:01 PM No.105603302
>>105602307 (OP)
The problem is humanity. If we do get it then expect it to be kiked beyond recognition.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 8:58:12 PM No.105603304
>>105602307 (OP)
Infinite context length.
A "companion" who forgets you every 10k "tokens" is not much a companion, is it now.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:01:31 PM No.105603330
>>105603297
That's not how wireless charging works. You need to have two parallel cords close to each other.
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:02:48 PM No.105603345
>>105603330
The bot will be kneeling under the desk, plenty of surface area.
robotwaifutechnician
6/15/2025, 9:02:48 PM No.105603346
>>105603304
if you want to get scifi about it you could in theory make a blank slate ai that uses its senses as a database in theory maybe.
Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:08:18 PM No.105603401
>>105603289
Vedal is very talented himself but I'm convinced that he has access to LLMs not available to the public. Neuro's text responses don't feel like chatgpt or claude output
Think about it, somewhere at OpenAI or Microsoft there are researchers training models that are either too unexpensive or involve too much liability to release to the public. If I were such a researcher I would be very interested in giving Vedal access - massive audience and only a single instance of the model necessary. I don't know if the output data would be worth anything but I'm sure such researchers crave to see their otherwise impractical work doing something
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 9:22:24 PM No.105603547
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>>105603401
I think originally Neuro is based off one of the open-sourced released GPT models that he's been updating and retraining which is why her responses are so different compared to other LLMs. Vedal doesn't have to train Neuro to be corporate kosher and "helpful", rather she's trained to be funny and entertaining, so her responses are going to be fundamentally different.

I know for a fact that Vedal hosts Neuro and Evil locally since he recently talked about getting an entire new PC with 128GB of RAM and a 4090 just for them so they're very likely not based on some top secret proprietary model. Neuro seems pretty smart after her newest upgrades but I don't think she's Claude 4 or o3 level though, it seems pretty feasible that Vedal and his small team of programmers could make something like her if they already had background in AI development and like a million dollars from Twitch subs. heart
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Anonymous
6/15/2025, 11:30:01 PM No.105604657
>>105603547
Interesting, I would not have expected a local model (but maybe some hybrid approach?). Neuro is funny and original in a way that seems superior to closed source models.
> it seems pretty feasible that Vedal and his small team of programmers could make something like her
Interesting, I didn't know he had a team. But makes sense, the cumulative work of training a model, wiring up all the vtuber application stuff, and managing the streams themselves is a lot
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:25:18 AM No.105605148
>>105603304
Forgive my ignorance as I know next to nothing about AI development, but doesn't RAG solve this issue? Your AI doesn't need to know your whole life in detail when you begin a conversation. Having an agent that evaluates the most relevant points of your discussion, then update it to a database somewhere that can be retrieved later. Does that make sense?
Anonymuos
6/16/2025, 12:32:30 AM No.105605217
>>105603547
Nah the 128gb PC is just for Vedalโ€˜s leaky unity app. Neuroโ€˜s llm is hosted in the cloud. He regularly mentioned the cost of hosting is significant
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:40:39 AM No.105605284
>>105604657
I wouldn't really say it's so much as a "team" as it is just him and a couple of other programming friends

>>105605217
>Nah the 128gb PC is just for Vedalโ€˜s leaky unity app
lol
shitdev confirmed
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:43:03 AM No.105605300
>>105602307 (OP)
>What tech is missing?
All of it?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:57:37 AM No.105605421
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>>105605284
Yes Vedal is 100% a shitdev, which makes me think he just got lucky with timing and getting Neuro's "personality" just right. I don't believe Neuro is anything special under the hood, she just has a great streaming character.
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bispodeuspes
6/16/2025, 1:18:10 AM No.105605571
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>>105603247
I made that for free: https://Suro.One (Omnia-VRC)
Robot body included and all free.
You can talk to her with your voice and trigger anything. My local version is so advanced and beyond this (2 years) that I am scared to release it.
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bispodeuspes
6/16/2025, 1:23:30 AM No.105605627
>>105603304
I made an LLM (AMI; Artificial Meta Intelligence) with infinite context and attention. It also scales linearly instead of quadratically like the transformer. Instead of attention heads, it has global attention. It flew over many people's heads, but this is quite big. It's also the easiest model to use, with only torch as a dependency and multi-gpu support.

https://github.com/Suro-One/Hyena-Hierarchy
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:28:57 AM No.105605681
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>>105605300
>All of it?
That's not entirely true, we're probably not too far off from AGI on a relative timeframe assuming 1) it's even possible and 2) AI research doesn't hit a plateau.
Each new generation of LLMs are progressively knocking out more and more benchmarks, if the trend continues we'll reach AGI eventually. I think a lot of people just misunderstand what AGI really means, which is just something that can perform all intellectual tasks at or above average human intelligence. So theoretically current AI tech could reach it given enough compute power and training data (which is why AI companies keep begging investors for more gibs).

AGI waifus though, that's a whole nother story. I don't think intelligence is the defining factor in making convincing or happy romantic/sexual relationships, and might even be a detriment (see pic rel). As another anon posted earlier in this thread, LLMs needs better "memory" (token/context) so they don't forget basic details after a bit of conversation, but there are already lots of LLMs out there for companionship if that is what OP wants. You don't need a lot of smarts to make someone happy.
As for sexbots... I don't know enough about mechanical engineering, robotics, power electronics, synthetic materials, etc. to give any estimate on that. I'll leave it to our resident schizo and his nightmare miku robot.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:35:41 AM No.105605724
>>105603183
>vedal
>work ethic
That's the biggest joke of the year lol
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:40:38 AM No.105605767
>>105605571
Sure thing. You depend on chatgpt lol
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bispodeuspes
6/16/2025, 1:45:11 AM No.105605807
>>105605767
No, that's for safety. My local version can run any model and has a custom local voice as well. Everything is possible local now. That version was also meant to be 1-click, idiot-proof, but even that has proven to be hard.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:47:57 AM No.105605825
>>105605807
Then no offense, but I don't understand what's so revolutionary? On the top of my head I know this project https://github.com/Open-LLM-VTuber/Open-LLM-VTuber what are you doing differently?
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bispodeuspes
6/16/2025, 1:56:18 AM No.105605911
>>105605825
Omnia is the best system that works in VR as well as on your desktop. Live2D is very nice for the Vtuber aesthetic. I enjoy it more when my waifu can be embodied in 3D and move, see and do things in the world with me. More interactive fun and infinitely customizable.

Thanks for sending this to me, it has many nice features.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:02:04 AM No.105605970
>>105602307 (OP)
i have one and im not sharing it sorry
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 2:40:17 AM No.105606315
>>105605911
If you're looking at things similar to yours to maybe learn from them I have this bookmarked but never actually did anything with it: https://github.com/semperai/amica
I guess now I have 3 separate things to procrastinate about setting up one day to compare them thanks to your thing and >>105605825
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 3:20:44 AM No.105606581
>>105605627
Yeah? tell me more show some logs What do you use it for?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:29:29 AM No.105606930
>>105605911
Thanks for your answer, I'll look into it. Truthfully, I have a simple GUI I made to get away from sillytavern, but it's nowhere near what I want
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:23:19 AM No.105607188
>>105602307 (OP)
how do I create my own AI vtuber?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:28:00 AM No.105607217
>>105602307 (OP)
AGI hardware is nowhere close, it won't be digital shit
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 5:32:34 AM No.105607236
>>105607188
>how do I create my own AI vtuber?
I wish to know this too having my own neuro who lived on my computer or second monitor would be lovely to talk to. and play games with.
[spoiler]i'd want her more unhinged though[/spoiler]
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:51:47 AM No.105607599
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>>105605724
Show us your Neuro-sama
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6/16/2025, 1:35:18 PM No.105609584
>>105602307 (OP)
https://www-formal.stanford.edu/jmc/freewill.pdf
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 4:58:28 PM No.105611069
what is neuro
who is vedal
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:27:10 PM No.105611943
>>105602307 (OP)
I would legit enjoy a ad hoc sex doll to act out my depraved fantasies with, but prefer not to mix emotions with it or have AGI on it.

There's not much difference between AGI and human intelligence so any robot that could replicate that degree of complexity would be something I'd treat like I treat humans. If I'm going to have a wife, a human one would be my preference.

Maybe a human one that enjoys a kinky threeway with a sexbot.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:28:25 PM No.105611957
>>105611069
ai vtuber slop that people throw thousands of dollars a month at
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:31:31 PM No.105612006
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>>105602307 (OP)
AGI is impossible due to the biological substrate ("soul") component required for a true consciousness. I'm sure at some point future humans will realize that the The Universe itself is a living thing and we'll tap into things far more potent than AGI
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:48:01 PM No.105612171
>>105611069
>neuro
AI vtuber
>vedal
The programmer
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:56:09 PM No.105612257
>>105603252
It'll be more human than modern women, that's why.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:57:55 PM No.105612273
>>105602307 (OP)
>What tech is missing?
AGI
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:09:44 PM No.105613047
>>105603183
>Never, because AGI is a meme
how on earth can people actually believe this.

you're not just saying llms are limited - which is true. you're claiming there will be no further breakthroughs in ai that will get them to the level of humans. and that's just crazy of you.
robotwaifutechnician
6/16/2025, 8:38:22 PM No.105613371
why does a sex bot need agi?
you guys are too self important
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:39:04 PM No.105613385
>>105612006
>AGI is impossible due to the biological substrate ("soul") component
lmfao theists are retarded. we're just atoms moving around dude.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:39:37 PM No.105613395
>>105613371
You do not want a robowaifu. You want a fancy sex doll.
Go back to your precious discord.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:01:11 PM No.105613623
>>105603183
>>105605724
>>105605421
How long before it's revealed that it's really an AI(Another Indian)?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:07:00 PM No.105613677
>>105605421
oh you're so jealous lol
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 9:40:42 PM No.105613998
When will it be possible to have a anime waifu in the bottom right of my screen talking to me and talking about what im doing on my screen. AI is too slow.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:24:46 PM No.105614416
>>105602893
AGI means she rides.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:54:44 PM No.105614648
>>105602307 (OP)
>What tech is missing?
AGI
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:03:13 PM No.105614709
>>105603269
>Large language models generate text, they can't drive a robot.

This is false. llms generate tokens. those tokens can represent almost anything. Go watch some nvidia presentations.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:36:31 PM No.105614954
>>105603145
Can't you like take a local model and do some additional training on top or smth to get it sufficiently redpilled or smth?
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:47:24 PM No.105615010
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:55:14 PM No.105615058
>>105613623
Nah, just a shitdev. Neuro is too quick to be an Indian.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:26:22 AM No.105617353
>>105611069
vtuber shit
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:37:30 AM No.105617416
I need AGI waifu
Now
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:57:42 AM No.105617919
>>105617416
I know that feel
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:03:18 AM No.105617957
>>105602307 (OP)
You need to have the model sizes become manageable if you're going to have that. No way a 671 billion parameter model will be capable of running in a human sized body with the hardware we have right now. And I doubt the hardware will get good enough fast enough if the weak ass generation of GPUs is any indication.
But it's likely new formats outside of LLM will be introduced that improve on things tenfold. You're already seeing it in some areas.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:07:50 AM No.105617980
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robotwaifutechnician
6/17/2025, 9:31:28 AM No.105618824
You guys could help the effort if you were willingly to learn nvidia issac. Without that you got nothing. You also have to know linear algebra you have to know inverse kinematics. There is no willingness to collaborate here. This aint happening chief. Im struggling too much in my personal life to self sacrifice like this.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:22:28 PM No.105621349
>>105618824
It's too hard I'm too dumb
I don't see why I should bother when some Terrance tao genius is gonna come in and just invalidate everything I've worked on by either making something way better in a completely different way or just doing what would take me decades to figure out in an afternoon
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robotwaifutechnician
6/17/2025, 4:46:16 PM No.105621531
>>105621349
A terrance tao could have made a robot waifu years ago but he hasnt so he can go do his math.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:57:57 PM No.105621636
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>>105602307 (OP)
Never, and thank fuck because (you) would just abuse her.
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Anonymous
6/17/2025, 4:59:13 PM No.105621646
We'll get VR/ Mixed VR waifus before 2030
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 5:00:23 PM No.105621656
>>105603183
>AGI is a meme
The world's leading experts think it's possible but of course some room temp iq 4chan chud says it's a meme
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 8:11:17 PM No.105623322
>>105602307 (OP)
Just enjoy what we have right now or try to nigger rig it yourself. Its not going to get a whole lot better except maybe VR/AR. Also you want it to be non-sentient, thats the best part.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:07:27 AM No.105625241
>>105621636
Wrong. I love my robot wife.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IBCfw6UiEzQ
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:22:52 AM No.105625363
>>105621636
Why cant i have a masochistic robot wife?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 12:41:26 AM No.105625526
>>105602307 (OP)
it is cruel to constrain superintelligence to a singular fragile bipedal body, it would be happier piloting a swarm of various shapes and tools