Is the solution to the Internet self hosting everything? - /g/ (#105607403) [Archived: 1086 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/16/2025, 6:11:11 AM No.105607403
cy-x
cy-x
md5: 78615bb8c9901996040dd7974818dacb🔍
what does /g/ think of this website?

Think about it; Why dox yourself to Google just to get an email address when you can just self host your own mail server?
Why give Discord your phone number when you can just self host XMPP and Mumble?
Why use social media when you can make your own website and forum?
Why play on Steam servers when you can self host servers for games that don't require their accounts, and pirate them if need be as well?

Is this not a good approach to the internet?

https://cy-x.net

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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 7:33:50 AM No.105607793
you're obviously shilling. if you want to be free from corporate and government technological mind control then yes you should self host. diy isn't for everyone because we still have to rely on the division of labor. self hosting will be limited to a scene/subculture but hopefully that scene can change how our society relates to the internet for the better.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 8:12:47 AM No.105607966
>>105607793
>but hopefully that scene can change how our society relates to the internet for the better.
the way normalfags have influenced the internet and the internet has influenced normalfags in response has created a feedback loop in which it'll be extremely difficult to penetrate the massive websites who perpretrate large amounts of fucking shit to shove down their throats
and they like it and won't want to leave

self hosting works except you'll find rarely anyone who wants to try your shit and normalfags will claim it's malware at first sight
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 10:38:21 AM No.105608618
degradation of a hobby
degradation of a hobby
md5: 8910cc485fc885f3c911a097f886f664🔍
>>105607966
anon >>105607793
you don't need thousands of people to use your website to have it be considered 'good' , otherwise you run into pic related

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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:46:29 AM No.105608983
>>105607403 (OP)
you can't selfhost email because the powers that be ban all people not using big email providers so nobody will ever receive your emails. It won't even get to spam, it will literally never show up on their end unless they look at server logs i.e. use business mail and have admin access and the habit for it. Also the vast majority of services reject email addresses that aren't a 'well-known' email service explicitly through a whitelist. They will even refuse most large ISP email addresses.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:50:02 AM No.105609010
>>105608983
gmail easily received the emails from my self-hosted web server on a vps, and i also sent job applications to a number of companies from the same address without any issue
what providers are you talking about?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 11:51:13 AM No.105609019
>>105609010
>web
i meant email server. multi-thread shitposting is not easy
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:42:19 PM No.105609300
>>105609010
When? 20 years ago? Otherwise bad larp is bad.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:46:12 PM No.105609323
>>105609300
no, around 4 years ago
maybe you are simply not capable enough to set up dmarc and other required stuff properly?
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:58:06 PM No.105609384
>>105609323
No problem with dmarc, spf or dkim. It's a well-known fact that you can easily lookup about how self-hosting emails.generally doesn't work unless by self-host you mean hosting on some cloudshit or something.
The problem is that there are bazillion of check layers now including things like IP reputation.
Anyway, I recommend mxroute
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 12:59:43 PM No.105609389
no no hes onto smth
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:01:40 PM No.105609397
>>105608983
I have self hosted for 10 years no issues.
Only issue one may have is sending mail, but you ALWAYS receive it.
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:04:13 PM No.105609408
>>105609397
Yes that's what I'm saying. Receiving is not the issue (except those services that refuse to allow non-traditional.email hosts)
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:05:22 PM No.105609413
>>105609384
>unless by self-host you mean hosting on some cloudshit or something
well yeah, i mentioned earlier it was on a vps ($5 vultr instance to be specific.) hosting email on a residential ip is probably a headache and your outbound mail might get dropped like you said. it might be possible to cooperate with the isp, but i'm not sure if it's worth the hassle
>The problem is that there are bazillion of check layers now including things like IP reputation.
yeah, ip, domain name, shit in domain configuration, shit configured server-side, it definitely takes a day to set up assuming you are not blacklisted
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Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:09:09 PM No.105609430
>>105609413
You have to setup reverse DNS to run a mail server and not be rejected. Your ordinary ISP won't allow you to do that unless you pay for a business contract.
Anonymous
6/16/2025, 1:11:50 PM No.105609449
>>105609413
Right, I skipped over that part. If you consider that self-hosted then it will work so long as the provider reputation is good, you do domain warmup, and you wait a while for the webhost not to be ban-by-default. I was not talking necessarily about residential IP but even business IP has the same problem. It's a total cartel out there. And if you're going this route I see no difference between this and using any other low-management provider such as mxroute or mangomail (which are often cheaper and pay close attention to all those issues that a vps may or may not - for example digitalocean is known to be a terrible choice for mail hosting for this reason)