Thread 105627097

Is anyone else quitting the internet if a digital ID becomes required?

Why would I pay for this garbage when the internet is such shit now and I need to show an ID and dox myself just to use it. I'll just go back to living like it's the 90s.

>>105627097 (OP)
The Mark Of The Beast.

porn is

>>105627097 (OP)
EU has been compromised.
Guaranteed, MEPs and everyone pushing it are effectively Russian assets. Through bribery and blackmail, it's very simple to convert them into traitors.
This system will be misused to push crazy government and political parties like in the US.
If you notice, Russian assets like Elon, Asmongold, and so on, are trying to replicate the their playbook in UK, France, and Germany.
It's so obvious. And yet people keep falling for it.

>>105627104
Hang on lemme just cross reference that with my list of historic "this is it this is the real one for real this time guys" marks of the beast.

>>105627097 (OP)
iTODDLERS BTFO

>>105627277
Kys spammer

>>105627282
t. itoddler

>>105627288
No but you zoomers spamming gay shit to fit in is annoying

>>105627292
This is ancient lore newfag.

>>105627097 (OP)
I have about 16 TB of backups, media, games, projects, documents, books etc planning for this obvious and inevitable outcome. Yes I will cancel when they start forcing ID verification. Either that or all my web activity will be done on i2p

>>105627303
What year did you come to 4chan

>>105627292
>No but you zoomers spamming gay shit to fit in is annoying

>>105627319
Come home white man

I’m fine with coomers having to register with the state. Hopefully you get help soon now anon

>>105627097 (OP)
You faggots deserve it for spamming every board with your shit bots and hurting people IRL on twitter.
We were just fine before but you fucking schizos had to ruin it for everyone.
So if that means that we'll finally get rid of you then I'm all for it, but go all the way, fingerprints and all.

>retarded 4chan zoomer: OHHH I CARE ABOUT EPSTEIN FILES SO MUCH OHHH I WANT TO PROVE THAT [the other guy] IS RAPING KIDS
>retarded 4chan zoomer: WHAAAAT THE GOVERNMENT WANTS TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM SEXUAL CONTENT???????? REEEEE BUT I'M A DEGENERATE PERVERT WHO WANTS TO GOON ALL DAY

>>105627595
>>105627572

>>105627635
cry harder faggot
cry HARDER and HARDER and piss yourself in rage because you're part of the low-IQ underclass

the prole gets what it deserves.

>>105627097 (OP)
>>105627635

>>105627639
>>105627670
Kys shill

>>105627635
What a shit country.

>>105627097 (OP)
Porn will just go "underground"/torrenting. I seriously do not know who this protects. If anything, it's a Christofascist bullshit to push queer porn out of reach easily, but again: Torrents/et. al. People will find a workaround against this horseshit and the privacy issues.

>BUT MUH CHI--
They can see beheading videos on Youtube right this very second, maybe work on that shit first before worrying about them seeing a wo/man taking BBC up their asshole.

>105627347
>spam going back to 2022
end yourself Rakshit

>>105627319
I envy you.

I had a nice data collection way back when. My parents got divorced and I spent summers with my dad inawoods. It was actually nice being unplugged during the day but that stash of movies and games really saved me from going crazy at night. I don't think people realize just how boring their lives would be if the internet turned off tomorrow and never came back on.

>>105627097 (OP)
Just use tor for porn.

>>105627800
>Christofascist bullshit to push queer porn out of reach easil

The one thing they got right.

>>105627097 (OP)
>Is anyone else quitting the internet if a digital ID becomes required?
No, but please do. Fuck off. We don't need more FUDtards like yourself shitting up 4chan

>>105627800
The kind of people obsessed with banning porn don't care if their kids are exposed to any other kind of godless material. Some of them would probably say it builds character.
They all claim it's a morality thing, but in reality it's just "eww icky".

>>105627097 (OP)
>siphon billions of tax payers sheckles
>make super duper anti porn app
>are you over 18yo?
>Yes /no
>Ursula, we saved the niggers and sand niggers from the kafirs and their shitan

What if it's a private/secure ID using Chainlink DECO or similar?
So the website (and ID provider) don't know how old you are, they just know that you're over 18.

>>105628004
chainlink will not ever get used. sorry anon

The end of free and anonymous speech is a small price to pay to keep our women safe online.

>>105627670
>Using VPN = negative social credit score
>Using TOR or I2P = go straight to jail pedoterrorist

>>105627097 (OP)
lmao it's real
https://ageverification.dev/
>The European Commission is defining a common EU-wide approach to age verification and delivering a white label solution to support its practical adoption across Member States.
>The goal is to enable consistent, secure and user-friendly age verification that can be easily integrated into online services throughout the EU.
>All components are developed as open source to ensure transparency, trust and reuse.

>>105627914
Wir schaffen das.

>>105628573
>All components are developed as open source to ensure transparency, trust and reuse.
Good, but won't it mean you can spoof it?

You need your id to watch porn
View numbers plummeted
Everybody uses torrents or p2p to watch porn
Porn jews lose money and commit self holocaust
Not bad

>>105628696
This
If it was restricted to just porn sites I would be ok with it.

>>105627097 (OP)
>Its just for porn
Its also used to screen social media accounts in general. The main goal is to limit/control the speech of the dissents. If you fear this enough to get off the internet, then their job is done.

>>105627097 (OP)
Isn't this going to go the same way as the UK's child protection thing where you have to show your ID to access porn?
Are lawmakers retarded why do they propose the worst possible solutions to problems?
Why does no one opt for a zero trust system with DNS blocking instead?

>>105627097 (OP)
i think blocking under 18s from porn is a good initiative, but yeah this is a really slippery slope - and seeing how the EUs attitude towards mass surveillance lately... i do NOT trust those fucks

>>105627462
Puritanism is mental illness, you are one who needs to seek help.

>>105627319
>Either that or all my web activity will be done on i2p
why not tor

>>105627097 (OP)
Everyone on the planet will have an RFID chip.

>>105627595
>protecting children from sexual content
>meanwhile at schools EU children taught about 100 genders and 100 ways to have gay sex with troons and how not to be misogynistic

>>105627229
The EU has been a technocratic/globalist project from the start. They are only showing their true Colors now because every forms of opposition has been neutered or co-opted.

>>105628688
I presume it will be a cryptographic of challenge - you have private key, sign a challenge from the pron site, pron site checks signature against public keys marked as 18+ year old on the EUs server. The pron site does not know how old you are, only that you are 18+ (they can, however, fingerprint you based on the public key - this could be probably rotated such that public key is not shared directly). But in any case, the EU server will know you visited a pron site.

>>105627097 (OP)
I wonder how the FOSS privacy schizos who gobble EU cock are handling this.

All the privacy minded, cash only, etc types are not useally right wingers, apolitical at best but then you have the Stallman types who is full hog into "liberal democracy" BS

>>105630294
Shut up tranime

>>105630407
>2hu is anime

>>105627670
It's not about the porn, retard. This is a slippery slope.

I would be able to get used to this if everyone had to do it. But we all know, right now, that these rules will not be enforced against The Elites, who will be protected from such indignities once again. That’s what grates on me.

>>105627097 (OP)
Yeah, if realID becomes a requirement or that other law that requires all encryption to be backdoored passes I'm off the internet.
Will probably still use it with realID for public services and for work but no longer for recreation or social media.
It was slowly becoming more and more shit since smartphones were introduced anyway, shit like that is the reason I need to finally quit it.

>>105627097 (OP)>>105627097 (OP)
how does an ID requirement prevent anyone (yes the people who are known for scams ...)
from unauthorized using
your infrastructure (computer, mobiles, routers, e-scooter
and a fuckton of other IoT devices?)
NONE! IT DOESN'T !!!
so this bullshit is even more useless and more harmful than they realize.
or alternatively they want this situation. (entirely intentional)

2020's really is the worst fucking decade of this millenium so far
now it's just a slow fall into a dystopian hellhole for the entire planet

>>105627595
you know that you are lying, right?
>WANTS TO PROTECT CHILDREN FROM SEXUAL CONTENT?
they don't want to do this.
they want to
1) be able to forbid you to talk about the crimes of a certain country
2) give you fines for the evil evil copyright infringement
(and hinder you more from being able to consume inofficial sources)
3) forbid any other opinion they don't want to be voiced

Isn't this just going to bring back torrenting for porn?

>>105627800
>it's a Christofascist bullshit to push queer porn out of reach easily
Actually it's to shunt all sorts of vice offline back into IRL, so it comes back under the control of "respectable" local bigshots who'll be a couple steps removed from the process. Pull with the local police force will reduce competition.
If you're stubborn enough to sign up and keep gooning online, you'll likely appear on a public gooner list released by "hackers" in the near future.
Enjoy having to leave your house and go to the shittiest part of town to buy your smut from Flynn, proprietor of the Sin Bin.

All you need is a new HTTP header:
I-am-18: 1

Now make parental control on phones mandatory, and make phone browser send only the correct value of the header.
Problem 100% solved.

>>105630936
>Now make parental control on phones mandatory,
...only for kids of course. Parents who give their child full internet access get jailed for child abuse.

>>105630915
It's not just porn. It will be required for everything.

>>105628696
it would only work if people would stop watching porn, which they don't so the people you are talking about don't lose. some of the legal business gets harmed for the moment. (by the way this means less taxes from that source, clever move really !!! ...) I hate the very likely idea that government agents are probably this minute trying to sell you ways to access porn in places where the ban and ID shit is setup.

>>105628764
sadly an extension of the already (Europe) existing mandatory connected mobile number, which in some cases/countries means an ID is connected.

Porn sites have become complete shit anyway. They only have commercial porn ad clips and ugly people trying to sell their onlyfans garbage.

>>105627097 (OP)
but /g/ told me the EU was based

>>105627097 (OP)
>quitting the internet
No? I'll use every workaround that pops up, while never giving my ID. Not like it's easily enforceable in the US, there's plenty with no driver's license, no ID, and SSN's are not good ID, you can reasonably guess one. If it gets utterly unbearable I'll switch to i2p/tor.

>>105631188
Soon it'll be required on bootup

>flip VPN to american server
>no checks
there you go, enjoy your gay porn

>>105627097 (OP)
unenforcable, unless you are as tech-illiterate as your average /pol/ user.

>>105627462
You're on a coomer site have you registered yet or are you above it

>>105628696
Good luck enforcing id requirements on millions of sites in different jurisdictions all over the globe. EU would have to go for the same intense censorship governance as the Chinese Communists and not even that would work. And if they try to apply it to websites and the internet in general people would get angry by the overregulation.

Some type of device based verification would be better. No risk for privacy violations there.

>>105631629
dont give them ideas

>>105630143
>But in any case, the EU server will know you visited a pron site.
But do they know which one?

>>105627097 (OP)

> Is anyone else quitting the internet if a digital ID becomes required?

Of course not. What are you, Amish? This is where you belong. You’re here forever.

but if you don't shove interracial gay tranny porn down their throats from puberty, how do you expect them to grow up supporting the eu? seems like a self defeating policy

Age verification is already a thing in multiple American states.
This shit is global.
Porn and protecting muh children is the vehicle they're using to get the online ID through.
It works because a lot of people are genuinely retarded enough to think this crap will be limited to porn sites only and will support it.
Then you slap in the constant AI monitoring of "hate speech" and spreading "dangerous conspiracy theories" attached to your online ID and there we go.
Dystopian control state where you can't say anything without it being recorded and you being punished automatically by our machine overlords.

>>105632435
NTA but I think yes, they could.

Assuming the verification process is the one described above, they(the EU servers) are basically processing a request from an adult website asking whether a certain digital signature corresponds to an adult citizen.

They could swear that they don't log anything at all, but I would never trust them.

>>105627097 (OP)
>one liberator gives away his ID to everyone
>everyone has the same signature
>easy

>>105633764
Nice, so l will be jailed for trying to access an islamophobic Website or something

If my usage of phrases like "kill yourself" and "cunny" end up being tracked and logged Internet-wide I am going off-grid.

>>105630603
We're already on the slope since childporn is illegal and aggressively enforced.

>>105631629
You make it sound like clearnet (and darknet for that matter) child porn websites don't get shut down. The only ones that run for more than 3 months are run by the FBI.

>>105627097 (OP)
No, the internet will route around this retarded shit.

>>105634334
Good Kys pedo

>>105632923
I'm in Texas right now, and I can access the porn on this site and Twitter just fine. Only the sites full of cuck shit like Pornhub and whatever video site the whores on Reddit use these days are blocked here (on their own initiative instead of being blocked by the state), so what am I missing out on? Blacked porn? /gif/ is full of it as is.

>>105634547
you don't get it, it isn' about if you don't like the porn on one site. it is about that they will fucking force you to have for every site the shitty ID bullshit. and hey what you don't think about is what do you do if the verification "is not working" ...

>>105627462
Get lost faggot.

>>105634633
Good. Thank god. I'll make a website and limit it to only white males. I salivate at the though of being able to just fucking exclude any rakshit or sandeep or pajeet.

>>105634633
They're currently trying to get all the sites that allow dissent voices on board so they can silence anyone that is critical of the EU narrative.

Why doesn't anyone understand that LEGAL preferences within porn can get you extremely ostracized in most social circles and even get you fired if someone collects and posts proof of watching said LEGAL (but disgusting) porn.
People keep shouting "Who cares! everyone watches porn! Just ignore accusations as long as it's legal stuff!" and pretend being known as the (consenting) gay dwarf choke porn with fecal target pratice rounds-guy WILL destroy a significant part of your life forever. It's a label that sticks and even those worse than you will use it lavishly simply because they haven't been found out themselves. Deep embarrassment is often a stronger feeling resulting in crazy actions than being known as a criminal (except pedos I guess).

The servers containing data linking your ID to your browsing history will be leaked and it will be used to blackmail thousands of people, even if they aren't pedos.

>>105634833
just stop watching disgusting shit CHUD
watch NORMAL PORN like Blacked.com, now with a 1 day trial for only 2 dollars!

>>105627097 (OP)
the barrier to entry has become too easy for the internet.
we should make our own shitty version of it that will be clunky and difficult to use by design, to keep the normies out
what stops us?

>>105634833
>>105634915
I only go to normalpornfornormalpeople.com

>>105634953
If you use a smartphone you're part of the problem

>>105634953
>we should make our own shitty version of it that will be clunky and difficult to use by design, to keep the normies out
You mean creating a website on Tor?

>>105634953
>we should make our own shitty version of it that will be clunky and difficult to use by design, to keep the normies out

Isn't that Gemini or Gopher or whatever its called?

>>105627820
t. seething iJeet

>>105627292
t. itoddler

>>105627097 (OP)
just download all the porn you want to watch now??why do you need to see a new girl get stuffed every week?

>>105635267
If you retards would pick up a book you'd realize porn was just the beginning

>>105627097 (OP)
here get a portion of this, it already starts. now they are asking for other sites. (social media)
https://www.politico.eu/article/x-bluesky-reddit-france-crosshairs-porn-clampdown/

>if it happens on ISP level (per household/payer) and nothing else changes
>if i can't get perma'd
bring it on
it'd be a good way to figure out what can be sniffed and what algos are secure
but if i have to connect to some VPN type shit, forget it

>>105627097 (OP)
I hope it does. The internet has become a tool for tools

>>105630143
the more likely approach is
>go on porn website
>porn website asks for your ID
>go on eu website
>sign up and prove age
>eu website creates wannabe jwt token that says anon is 18+
>encrypts said token with private key (may or may not include private information)
>porn website uses eu's public key to decrypt jwt
>ok anon is 18
>stores jwt/encrypted payload fingerprint

>>105634291
wow, you're from anonymous proxy too?!

first they came for the porn, but i did not care, as i did not use porn
.
.
.
.
now when being banned from 4chan, i'm banned based on my own personal ID

be sure to defend privacy on the internet, even if it starts somewhere you don't care to defend

>>105635993
there's a way to do it without needing to give away how you use said ID to the EU
and in fact the technology already exists and can be used in current browsers, because signing into websites using a personal cryptographic certificate has been a thing for a long time, and such certificates could be issued by the EU as an age verification method.

>>105637068
That "app" is still going to be tracking your movement

>>105630407
You will never be a young woman again, raisin tits!

>>105637703
Only dried up old Kiwi crones actually believe the anime -> tranny pipeline myth they push.

>>105628696
>people stop watching porn
>rapes skyrocket because porn reduces rapes

>>105637760
there are no women on the internet thus your argument is invalid

>>105630104
Access to genuine porn has to be restricted so they can monopolize the sexual programming of children and gain total control

>>105627229
>muh russian
why does boomer blame muh russian for everything?
next you're gonna tell me Larry Fink is a Russian asset
is Israel a Russian state too?

>>105627595
>PROTECT CHILDREN FROM SEXUAL CONTENT
does he know?
does he know the gov is directly involved in human trafficking?
does he know the UN is UNinvolved in peace but very involved in child trafficking?

>>105627820
>only 2022
>he doesn't know
shameful OSINT skill, trace harder

>>105627823
>he doesn't know
>he doesn't know he has a built-in neural network within the chunk of jelly in his head that can be programmed to generate infinite amount of his favorite data

>>105627800
good is a millennia old human tradition
scat porn is modern bullshit

>>105635993
correct

>>105637068
>there's a way to do it without needing to give away how you use said ID to the EU
That's how it works, retard. You get an attestation from an attestation provider which you then can present to relying parties.
There is no tracking involved.
https://ageverification.dev/Technical%20Specification/architecture-and-technical-specifications/

>>105627097 (OP)
Some form of identity verification is the only way to ensure you're interacting with humans instead of AI

>>105627595
but anon... the children ARE the sexual content these days

>>105630936
>>105630946
>they think it's about saving the children
if they really wanted to save the children, the EU can simply execute the "asian" grooming gang, dum dum

>>105627097 (OP)
can't you just use darknets like tor, i2p or yggdrasil?
or vpns?
or bypassing DPI?
or make your own internet using dial-up and whatsapp/signal?
Or just not watching porn?

there are an infinite number of contigencies to get around this, said contigencies will have even less safeguards than the platforms originally did, now you have more people being exposed to even more egregious material. this will do nothing to help children, this will do nothing to stop free speech. they are wasting money on a problem that is unsolvable. you could just go back to porn magazines or drawing naked women on rocks with charcoal pencils. this is futile.

>>105638104
cool, make it optional tool for sites where users demands less AI noise from the website operator

>>105632892
that's an easy one you just show them interracial gay tranny porn in schools

>>105627229
>EU has been compromised.
It was a globalist tentacle from the very start.

>>105638164
>this will do nothing to stop free speech
For Normies it will

>>105627595
it's a trojan horse you stupid fucking retard, once the app is there it will evolve into a full on ID verification system

>>105637991
Russia used to be a big deal back in those days and earlier. It's hard to believe now, but the idea of russians putting missiles in cuba was a legit and terrifying idea at one point, that almost pushed us into exchanging nukes.
Nowadays even putin is just a boomer pining for the old days though, and they can't even scare european peaceniks after seeing them throw nearly a million bodies at ukraine and getting jack shit for it.
China is more believable since they're actually skilled at info war, but noone would buy the roach king of all people working for the chinese, so anon can't play that card.

>>105627843
The EU is perfectly fine with porn, they have been pro-degeneracy from the very start and they have been unhinged for years now. This is about setting a foothold on ID requirements, and it will evolve very quickly into a censorship tool to regain control over the internet discourse. I can't believe people is falling for the "this is to protect our children" trick, and doubly so coming from a hostile to children entity like the EU, but that shows how well entrenched they are.

>>105638556
No one needs to fall for anything since they're not being asked in the first place.

>>105638565
Can't argue with that

>>105637019
Yes, I am

>>105634410
Always the same dishonest comparisons. These ID requirements would have to be imposed on legal websites with legal content. The magnitude of the amount of internet regulation it'd require is hard to fathom. Are they gonna shut down billions of web pages or even turn off everyone's internet?

>>105638104
Twitter has more steps than ever before to make an account, verify your identity and use the site yet it's still flooded with bots

>>105638104
Shalom elon

>>105627595
>AIIIE MUH PORN SITES THINK OF LE CHILDREN!!
>Abdul and Mohammed running a gang rape train on a 10 year old girl? Go right ahead, sirs, here's your complementary crate of alcohol so you can keep her drugged all night long.

>>105627635
I like how literally every iteration of this policy ends up getting killed in the courts but they keep trying

>>105639921
And it makes no sense unless they just want to get rid of age restrictions all together.

What sense does it make that it requires an ID to buy a porno DVD but internet requires nothing

>>105640304
It doesn't require an ID to buy a porno DVD. Stores selectively enforce it but it's literally been ruled unconstitutional multiple times for the government to gatekeep protected speech behind age checks.

>>105640319
Cool, if porn is protected speech then everything arguably is.
Do they really want to open this can of worms?

>>105627595
why would a kid be visiting a porn site?

>>105640472
because some shitbag shared it in their friend group chat and they are curious?

>>105640319
>It doesn't require an ID to buy a porno DVD
Yes it does
>Stores selectively enforce it
Yeah that's true, but you just admitted there is a requirement to have an id
>it's literally been ruled unconstitutional multiple times
No, that's not true
>government to gatekeep protected speech behind age checks.
Porn is considered obscene/harmful which isn't protected the same as normal speech

>>105640492
and since kids are naturally sexless and have no interest in porn beyond haha adults doing the funny dance, why wont this kid close the tab and forget about it?

>>105640554
that depends entirely on what age the kid is, I don't think exposing children of any age to hardcore pornography is going to be anything but a net negative to their future sexual and behavioral developments

Funny how normalfags go all PORN LE BAD FOR KIDS, but at the same time they go HERE KID HAVE THIS PHONE WITH ALL THE PORN SITES OF THE WORLD ON IT and then they go OH NO WHAT HAPPENED WE MUST CENSOR THE WHOLE INTERNET.
How fucking stupid can you be?

>>105638553
>actually skilled
hahah

>>105640576
I think the exact opposite, censoring such a basic facet of human existence because chistian puritans hate sex will lead to insecure and badly educated children. Mentally ill people blaming watching porn for their issues are just failures refusing to take responsibility for their lives and blaming the convenient current scapegoat, watching people have sex will not cause you any sexual or behavioral problems in itself. Parents refuse to teach kids anything, schools are incompetent and it's not their job, so once a kid goes through puberty they will have no safe way of exploring their desires beyond actually going out and trying whatever retarded shit they think about IRL instead of looking it up online. The only thing this will achieve is grouping actually illegal and dangerous stuff with normal porn since now both are equally "banned" for the average teenager.

>>105640576
What about exposing children of any age to tiktok brainrot. How does it affect their future behavioral developments?
It's not a government's job to be a thought police, retard.

>>105640622
unrestrained internet access is possibly one of the wrost things you can give to a child from an early age, but you also cannot expect the retarded peon parents to actually know what the fuck they are doing when it comes to parenting in 2025
what is your proposed solution for keeping kids off the internet without an ID check?

The internet is dead anyway. Some of you are reacting like they're taking internet at its peak away from you, but they're not, it's already dead. 4chan going down made me understand this in a very real way.

>>105640720
bingo
all the fun is offline nowadays

>>105640697
internet costs money, and since kids can't get a job the only way they can get internet access is if their parents allow it
>inb4 public wifi
almost every single phone and pc os these days has a parental control mode that allows you to limit the things you don't want your crotchspawn to view even if they get internet access from outside the house
>but the kids will bypass those!!!
if the kids want to do something that much then they will do it no matter how many it's illegal guise!!!! laws you pass
you cannot legislate human wants and desires out of existence like the prohibition showed, and humanity has done fine without trashy peon parents acting like the gestapo towards their kids
if they can't parent then why give them even more control? you'd just end up ruining the kids life because some mentally ill zillenial thought tiktok memes about still water were the devil
>parents cant parent their kids so the state must step up™ and do it
no, the state is utterly incapable of doing anything and is at its best when doing absolutely nothing

>>105640738
>humanity has done fine without trashy peon parents acting like the gestapo towards their kids
humanity has never before been in a situation when they are interconnected with the entire world and can view anything they desire, both good and bad
what are you gonna do about low IQ parents that are too technologically inept to set up parental controls? What about parents that don't care about parenting and just shove an ipad in front of their kid ever since it opened its eyes for the first time? The kids that grow up in an environment like that are gonna be completely fucked mentally and either turn into massive whores or socially inept forevervirgin NEETs, both of which are horrible for the rest of the society as they hardly provide any value, cultural or monetary
if parents at large can't raise their children then who is supposed to do it? Back then it was the job of a whole village to raise the kid, now with the sense of community being completely gone in our society, who is going to actually raise their kids right when their parents fail them?

>>105640773
>humanity has never before been in a situation when they are interconnected with the entire world and can view anything they desire, both good and bad
kids are either too young and have no interest in porn, or they are old enough that they are fucking their classmates and censoring them will just push them to riskier places to see some tits
you seem to assume that the moment someone goes online they search for bbc prolapse gay scat gangbang and watch it 24/7 while complaining about tfw no gf, but most people will only do what they would have done IRL too and seek out their narrow interests only
>The kids that grow up in an environment like that are gonna be completely fucked mentally and either turn into massive whores or socially inept forevervirgin NEETs, both of which are horrible for the rest of the society as they hardly provide any value, cultural or monetary
no, those kids would have been that way even without the super mega duper evil internet
whores and trash males that dont want to get a job have existed even during the middle ages, but back then they blamed heathen religions and lack of prayer instead of the internet for their kids not being good little cattle
>muh raising kids
kids are being raised, but they arent being raised in the way that you want is what you mean
it's a convenient scapegoat, because the current tradlarping younger generation can blame the hard won freedom they had for being trash
it's not their fault they can't get a job or that they're too much of a pussy to ask their crush out, it's daddy government's fault for not oppressing them hard enough
previously they blamed the law for not allowing them to be themselves, now that those laws dont exist they did a 180 and demand them back
it's human nature to seek external factors for why the things happening to them are not their fault

>>105640622
while i'm not sure when a good time to introduce the concept of sex is in a child, i started thinking about what i'd later learn to be vore before i leaned about sex, so i'm not going to say you're wrong, either
certainly i think anyone would agree that if your kid hits puberty first then you're too late lets be honest

>>105640738
>you cannot legislate human wants and desires out of existence like the prohibition showed
What's your limit bro?

>>105640980
I have no limits

>>105627097 (OP)
an app ? like on smartphone or something else ?

>>105640738
>if the kids want to do something that much then they will do it
that is the truth
like how i used to stop at a parking lot after school with my psp connected to a business' wifi whose wep key i cracked using a laptop running "linux"
as the fuck if my parents would understand half the words i just wrote

>>105630128
>The EU has been a technocratic/globalist project from the start.
This.

>>105630128
So has the USA.

>>105640503
>Porn is considered obscene/harmful
The definition for what is obscene is so toothless that hardcore interracial gangbang scat porn could be ruled protected speech simply by having a storyline

>>105627800
>Christofascist bullshit
There's more Muslims in the EU than Christians now, and they're way more vocal about their hatred of porn. And when Christians speak about something no one gives a shit, but they will listen to the Muslims.

>>105641303
>1.4% muslims
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_European_Union
Burger?

>>105627229
>Russian assets like
>Elon
>Asmongold
>Asmongold
>Asmongold

>1990 + 35
>watching porn
Shiggity diggity

>>105638553
Russia is literally controlling the US right now.

>>105641505
>literally
>>>/reddit/

>>105627097 (OP)
Haven't some of the US states not already implemented something similar?

>>105627572
>hurting people IRL on twitter.

>>105640597
>HERE KID HAVE THIS PHONE

Found the problem

>>105640394
Porn is not protected speech, t. SCOTUS circa 1973

>>105642864
not what that ruling meant
t. SCOTUS circa 1973

>>105642725
>what is 764
Minors do not belong in the nightmare fuel hell that zoomers have turned the internet into.

>>105642966
Go on then, let's see your mental gymnastics routine. Why does sharing a slice of cheese pizza land you in jail if it's protected speech?

>>105643104
loaded question working on a false implication by a falseflagging little twerp
I wonder if these threads are botted since they're so regular or if your kind has nothing else to do but ask the same thing over and over despite getting answers the first time

>>105643130
Impressive, it's not every day you see someone trying six lines of deflection in one post. I'll give you a 5/10.

>>105643170
thanks sis, it comes from dealing with your kind for years

Is it really too much to just expect parents to actually do their job?

>>105627097 (OP)
I love how normies think they can block the sun with a finger, there is thousands of ways to access to porn and they just censor pornhub. Fucking retards

>>105627097 (OP)
isn't it a nothingburger so long as the eu hasn't banned vpns yet?

>>105644089
Its not porn they're after. Its access to information platform that they want to control. Porn is just forward facing propaganda. The actual law is to censor/silence dissents from posting on social media and threaten them with their livelihood by having the government watch over everything you say/think/talk about online.

>>105627097 (OP)
>Is anyone else quitting the internet if a digital ID becomes required?

im quitting it regardless. its just taking ages to hoarde everything for a fully offline setup. its taken years. im almost done, then i can finally be free of you fags

>>105644020
Clearly yes, and there's nothing you can do about it, even high IQ people are often clueless about the internet and will let their kids get groomed and traumatized for life.
Honestly the more I think about the more it feels like this isn't going far enough. Europe should execute a Great Underage Ban. Minors should only have access to a whitelist of read-only websites and no way to talk to other people.

>>105627319
Hard drives are cheap enough that we could just swap hard drives with friends and neighbors to copy and have basically everything digital except up to the minute jeet bot posts.
Honestly surprised we don't do this. We could all have virtually all relevant data if we wanted with an afternoon of copying a friends hard drive.

>>105627104
>>105627202
This problem could be solved if parents simply added an adult block to their browsers, or requested that MS/Google/Apple implement a youth only browser that completely blocks anything adult related. No need for IDs or government spyware.

Give those twerps Edge/Chrome/Safari Babby Edition and be done with it.

>>105645501
Or don't let their kids have unsupervised access to the internet.

>>105635993
what happens when everyone's private keys get stolen in a data breach, does everyone have to get re-authenticated and issued a new key?

>>105627097 (OP)
>I'll just go back to living like it's the 90s.
Yeah when I have the money I'll pick up some of the new 28TBs, if lucky maybe I'll be able to find some local anons to exchange for new shit.

>>105645501
But how does that help the government collect information?

>>105645321
That's the point, they really are trying to go after VPN's. It was one of the first things they mentioned on doing was getting around VPN's as well.

>>105627097 (OP)
Worse comes to worst, I'll use a VPN if it affects me. Things are already kind of messed up, OpenAI will ask for a proof of age (showing your face or submitting your ID to some UK based website) here. But, as long as you rememeber to use a VPN, it's fine. Just let's assume that we're more or less in the same place of China, Russia, Turkey, etc....

>>105627319
idk what to download. what do you have?

>>105646887
See>>105646118

>>105627097 (OP)
AAAAAGHHH GOOGLE STOLE ALL MY PASSWORDS
BURN DOWN THEIR DATA CENTRES

>>105646118
Source please?

>>105634833
Thats just the start, contrary to popular belief politics is downstream from culture not the other way around, people don't stop watching porn bc it gets banned out of nowhere, it gets banned because a significant enough portion of the population at least pretends that they support it being banned. The only reason the EU and Texas and UK and all the rest of these shitholes do not admit that they want to ban it (along with everything they actually dislike like people criticizing politicans, thats the goal obviously like china) because that wouldnt be quite as passable just yet, once its more normalized they will make it harder and harder to access before fully banning it along with again so much more important stuff.
>>105634953
how you plan to do it but im in
>>105635016
I dont and /g/ attacks me 24/7 for pointing out how locked down spyware dogshit android has been for years

During Covid-19 the whore needed to note my name for their "Kontaktprotokoll"

scam them all to death, my friends. scam them all to death

Too many people in this thread talk about porn when the crux of the problem is obviously the idea of a digital ID in the first place, and they will push that onto other services and eventually will make it mandatory to identify yourself when you start a computer. Now the question is, how do you avoid it?

>>105650961
yea no shit, it's just their 'in'. it doesn't matter how they do it, once they start a system for identifying people on the internet, before you know it, you'll be reminiscing of the good old days when anyone could just go do stuff online and nobody knew who you were unless you told them

>>105651048
More people have to be made aware that we are being tunneled into adopting the social credit system as the new normal, anything that brings us closer to it (like digital IDs) have to be rejected as soon as possible. If humanity falls (and it most likely will), let it happen after I'm dead.

>>105627097 (OP)
You could always move out of whatever third world country you live in and come to the United States of America (Land of the Free) we might let you in if you beg hard enough lmaooo

>>105650961
Use a non-hardware DRM based device so no phone, no ARM PC, no Windows 10+ no T2+ Mac and backup everything, + way to enforce it there. I do expect the internet to become completely locked down tho so not even alternative networks unless you start running your own equipment, UI has some cool long range wireless gear if we wanna try building our own network. Thats what ive been doing honestly since 2020, took a break from my more usual hobbies to just archiving as much stuff as possible and figure out how to host shit myself while I can still.

Seagate and Western Digital are actual freedom fighters, once govs realize what they have done everyone who ever worked there will get publicly tortured and executed as an example to what happens to dissenters, without them I'd probably already consider it a lost cause and off myself.
>>105651074
people love digital ID, already in beta in the EU, check the download numbers for your countries on google play, they're installing it in droves as a fucking optional beta, there is no out, as soon as its 1.0, then gets some actual benefits associated literally everyone will switch before any mandate comes out.
>>105651086
15yrs+ ago I wouldve wanted to a lot, now though the US has been successfully destroyed from within, i hate it but it is what it is
https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/texas-poised-enforce-age-verification-apple-google-app-stores-2025-05-27/

>>105627277
baste

>>105634353
I agree with you only in the terms of how it is enforced. If some guy has a dungeon of children , the feds should act, but if you make a website and do not use moderation or cloudflare and somehow from somewhere, 10000 different IPs come and post 10000 different pizzas that noone can find online, maybe the feds should not come to your door but the posters. Then again, most people do not have even 1 pizza, so it is the Feds themselves that post all the pizza.

>>105627097 (OP)
>quitting the internet
>implying anyone can do that in this day and age

>>105651086
>United States of America (Land of the Free)
Imagine being this much of a retard and still believing this. There's more freedom in many other countries.

>>105627229
They don't have to be Russians, if they are globalists first.
You really think that?
The globalist wanted cdbc, that is probably delayed thanks to an almost impeding war.

This earth needs to burn sometimes to handle all this delusion.
Maybe it's true that the vast majority of mankind is as irreversibly stupid as they are dangerous for mankind, irregardless what and how many standardized tests they successfully accomplished

>>105627319
Yes officer this post right here.

>>105634953
>what stops us?
payment processors

>>105627097 (OP)
Mfw my id is linked to my public ip.

>>105634953
>make something shitty and obtuse on porpose
This sounds like the current internet. Do something original please.

Pornography isn't freedom of speech; it's filth that causes brainrot and turn men into female-obsessed cucks.

this >>105627229 is a bot

>>105652266
Literally just unplug it

>>105650961
The rational way: Parents enable +18 blocking in their kids browsers

The second most rational way: big tech implement child only versions of chrome/safari/edge for devices used by kids, automatically block browsing to anything +18, no exceptions, and make the blocking permanent, i.e. Timmy isn't going to pull a fast one by going to the settings and "turning it off."

Third best way: adult websites voluntarily block all internet traffic from Texas/Utah/Florida/EU or whatever hole wants to ban porn

It's probably unironically considering a meshnet if they do this. Slow throughput but it'd allow decent areas of unmolested networks.

>>105653418
>The rational way: Parents enable +18 blocking in their kids browsers
So much fucking this. Just make it the law. Are they too evil or too incompetent to go this route? I seriously don't know. Maybe both.
>Third best way: adult websites voluntarily block all internet traffic from Texas/Utah/Florida/EU or whatever hole wants to ban porn
Pornsites would rather castrate themselves than lose EU traffic or traffic from major US states.

>>105650961
It should be a parent's responsibility to only allow children have access to restricted devices, not the responsibility of literally everyone else on the planet to verify the identity of visitors

>>105653418
0th best way: No child under 18 can go on the Internet for any reasons, period.
All public places (incl. wifi hotspot, but mostly libraries) having internet are under a centralized IP/DNS blocklist that blocks all ads, tracking, antisocial media, fake news, gambling, tobacco, alcohol, drugs, online shopping and porn.

>>105627097 (OP)
This is why we need to force all adult sites to use a set block of IPs and a .xxx domain to help improve filtering.

Why it was never done in the first place completely boggles my mind.

>>105653418
>>105653469
>>105653496
>>105653503
>>105653551
Why are they deaf to these ideas?

>>105627249
>a boy crying wolf magically means wolf cannot come ever or this time for real
Retarded take.

>>105630143
Why not sell physical cards with digital keys at gas stations, they can be good for 30 days or upon 5 uses? They already scan you're drivers license when you buy a pack of cigs, but the government doesn't track it (yet). Why not use that existing system?

>>105639821
UK technically isn't an EU country (but might as well be).

>>105628079
I'm always using some neighbors wifi

>>105653567
Because it's about rolling out a Digital ID that is connected to a CBDC wallet and social credit score.

>>105653469
>So much fucking this. Just make it the law. Are they too evil or too incompetent to go this route? I seriously don't know. Maybe both.
I recall a US senator straight up admitting that the average parent is a borderline animal who wouldn't pass the Shopping Cart Test and incapable of enacting parental controls on anything. Maybe it was their excuse, but I wouldn't be surprised since parents are that fucking stupid when it comes to tech (mine were when I was growing up).
>>105653418
>The second most rational way: big tech implement child only versions of chrome/safari/edge for devices used by kids, automatically block browsing to anything +18, no exceptions, and make the blocking permanent, i.e. Timmy isn't going to pull a fast one by going to the settings and "turning it off."
Tech would refuse to implement this as they would no longer be able to get kids addicted to doom-scrolling. Kids shouldn't get smartphones, period. They should get flip phones with access to the most basic of apps.
If Timmy absolutely must have a smartphone because all the other yuppies in his prep school have them, it should be child-locked (basic apps only, with even the camera disabled) until he turns 18 and age verifies at a brick and mortar store that can unlock it.

>>105654889
>I recall a US senator straight up admitting that the average parent is a borderline animal who wouldn't pass the Shopping Cart Test and incapable of enacting parental controls on anything
Whoever that Senator is is unfathomably based. He is correct. America is a reflection of it's people, and it's people are a reflection of it's parents.

>>105627249
Don’t be so daft it’s all slowly building up to it. All the pieces are coming together. Think frog in the water scenario.