Who is to blame? - /g/ (#105633068) [Archived: 1018 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:24:23 PM No.105633068
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I was in a hospital today and pretty much every computer shut themselves off to do windows updates.

The receptionists
The check in kiosks
The doctor's computer
The nurses computers
The checkouts in the cafeteria

All at different times too. It caused massive delays to basically everything. From what I hears Several of the systems failed to update too and tried to do it again when switched on or just stayed off. It was like this basically all day.

Whose fault is this? Windows? The IT department's? This was at one of the best hospitals in the country too.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:27:17 PM No.105633099
The entire idea of a forced update is an ungodly, Indian concept
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:27:20 PM No.105633100
>>105633068 (OP)
blame the pajeets. devuian does not have this problem
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:27:34 PM No.105633104
>>105633068 (OP)
Shartdeep the Punjabi in New Delhi using builder.ai to write code, which was actually written by Panjeep in Bangladesh using chatgpt.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:35:33 PM No.105633186
>>105633068 (OP)
I thought enterprise versions of windows didn't update automatically unless an administrator kicked it off?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:39:31 PM No.105633224
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>>105633068 (OP)
I have the perfect solution to this problem!
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 8:46:55 PM No.105633334
>>105633068 (OP)
I'll give you a hint:
If it was white people, it'd still be getting news coverage every day.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:14:49 PM No.105633618
Microshit for filling the company with Indians.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:19:59 PM No.105633664
>>105633334
lmao no it wouldn't. hospitals have always been lowkey shit-shows
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:20:51 PM No.105633672
>>105633068 (OP)
sounds like a shitty sysadmin
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:23:32 PM No.105633700
Jeets, but also your IT who allowed an update during the middle of the day like that, though they, too, may be jeets.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:25:35 PM No.105633718
>>105633068 (OP)
Tell me anon, what does a hospital computer need Windows for? What does Windows do what any other OS can't do?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:34:38 PM No.105633794
>>105633718
Some of UK healthcare’s most basic infrastructure runs of MS access databases from the early 90s - no money for anything so cannot replace. Also need shit fixed instantly by if it fucks up, cannot tinkertranny for hours while people are dying.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:35:16 PM No.105633798
>>105633718
Be easy for IT monkeys to fix in case it breaks
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:37:13 PM No.105633817
>>105633718
>What does Windows do what any other OS can't do?
Run old and terribly-designed software that only works on a specific version of XP.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:37:47 PM No.105633821
>>105633794
>Also need shit fixed instantly by if it fucks up, cannot tinkertranny for hours while people are dying.
>>105633798
>Be easy for IT monkeys to fix in case it breaks
By "easy" you mean, calling the hotline of the license provider?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:38:35 PM No.105633827
>>105633794
Every country is like this, the FAA just said it'll take 4 years and billions of dollars to update their computers off floppy disks and windows 95.
Only took a few helicopter crashes and all of New Jersey being unable to fly.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:40:02 PM No.105633841
>>105633224
Suicide?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:40:06 PM No.105633843
meanwhile on GNU/Linux i just type
sudo pacman -Syu
if i want to updoot and i can do it when i want
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:41:33 PM No.105633862
>>105633817
What software exactly? Doctors I know here use a Citrix VM running at a provider.
Replies: >>105633960
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:42:47 PM No.105633875
>>105633068 (OP)
IT department not configuring their update policies properly.
If they had properly configured group policy to only restart outside of active hours and a WDS server on the corporate network that all the computers point to, with proper testing of updates before rollout, this wouldn’t happen.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:43:11 PM No.105633884
>>105633794
Seems to have worked well in OPs case
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:43:48 PM No.105633889
>>105633875
Well that sounds it should be somebody's job to make sure that happens
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:44:20 PM No.105633896
>>105633827
a good commentary on modern society that helicopter crashes (jeopardising rich people) effect change while very large numbers of poor people dying due to shit hospital IT systems is merrily ignored
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:45:05 PM No.105633901
>>105633843
>apt-get install unattended-upgrades apt-listchanges
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:45:54 PM No.105633909
>>105633889
Middle management/finance fall for all the cloud salesmen bullshit so it makes IT’s job harder
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:46:54 PM No.105633922
>>105633884
Had it myself recently with 10 to 11 update, could use PC while most of the install happened and it politely asked me to restart and gave me time to finish my work. Actual downtime was about 10 minutes during which I took a shit.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:50:56 PM No.105633960
>>105633862
Usually it's the software end of medical equipment that the hospital doesn't want to replace until it has to.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:52:02 PM No.105633980
>>105633922
>restart
Linux usually doesn't even need to restart unless there's a Kernel update (only necessary in case of a security update in the Kernel which is absolutely rare). You normally just restart the services and programs that were updated. That's what unattended-upgrade does.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 9:55:10 PM No.105634019
>>105633960
"Windows on medical equipment" already has a very scary sound to it. Equipment of several 10000 Dollars could easily come with a tailored OS.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:00:02 PM No.105634068
>>105633664
>it's about hospitals
hush, rajesh
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:08:55 PM No.105634147
>>105633718
Interface with proprietary technology like a MRI that costs 40 billion dollars with completely locked down firmware
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:15:12 PM No.105634214
>>105634147
And in these 40 billion Dollars was no room for a proper OS?
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:17:28 PM No.105634236
>>105634068
>thread explicitly about a hospital does not involve hospitals
you will never be white, sukdeep
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:22:43 PM No.105634280
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>>105633068 (OP)
MS pushes updates on tuesday. quite intentionally.
youre larping or you need to yell at the hospital IT staff.
i have zero love for MS but lash those who deserve it.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:23:54 PM No.105634294
>>105633068 (OP)
>The IT department's?
never trust microsofts automatic updates
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:28:28 PM No.105634326
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The whole 45 year DOS/Windows dominance, the worst system option of its time, is proof enough for me, that this planet will never success.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:28:54 PM No.105634331
>>105634236
Typical jeet reading comprehension on display.
The OP is about the global microsoft outage, from the perspective of someone in a hospital at the time, and asks who was at fault.
The outage was not limited to hospitals, and the OP never claimed that it was.

How is a whole shit-stained race of animals this fucking dumb?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:30:11 PM No.105634343
>>105634326
Back there unix costed fortune and linux was a playground for few selected CS retards. Meanwhile windows had AUTOCAD and such engineering programs and it costed nickels.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:35:30 PM No.105634399
>>105634343
Because DR-DOS, and other alternatives didn't exist, right?
Oh wait, it was sabotaged by the AARD code, because Microsoft knew that their version of DOS was shit.
Btw. We still use drive letters. A system that stems from DOS times when the main storage medium a floppy disk in drive A.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:37:02 PM No.105634416
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>>105634331
you fucking retarded poopjeet, go stir more shit into your curry
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:39:03 PM No.105634437
>>105634399
Dr dos existed basically to lawsuit microsoft. Drive letters are based and obviously I know them because I actually used a: floppy drive.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:39:33 PM No.105634439
>>105634331
The global outage is because of clueless retard IT workers (redundant) mindlessly pushing out updates, and claiming that it isn't getting news coverage at all is asinine. And yes, this kind of incompetence is common in hospitals, especially nonprofit ones.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:39:58 PM No.105634443
>>105634416
see >>105634331
>from the perspective of someone in a hospital at the time
YOU DID NOT READ-EEM!
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:43:48 PM No.105634477
>>105633068 (OP)
Sounds like it was an IT fuckup. Someone seriously underpaid and undertrained is getting fired. Most of those guys are making 20-30 dollars an hour.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:46:00 PM No.105634500
>>105634019
That sounds complicated and expensive. Shareholders won't be happy to hear that. How about we pay a bunch of students to write it on winXP and never update it because updating sounds expensive as well.

That's literally every medical equipment company for you.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:50:12 PM No.105634532
>>105634443
The OP is not about any of that, you’ve tied a random tiktok thumbnail uploaded by the OP into being the premise of the story. The OP’s post is not about CrowdStrike and is instead about Windows updates.
Go cry into a bowl of masala you poopskinned ape.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 10:53:23 PM No.105634562
>>105634437
>Dr dos existed basically to lawsuit microsoft.
DR-DOS is the original, it was copied (under license) by Microsoft. But the copy was more shit than the original. So Microsoft introduced the obfuscated AARD code to make their software crash when it wasn't running under MS-DOS and then they lied to the customers telling them, that the issue was the OS and not their software and that they should use MS-DOS because it was supposedly more stable.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:00:47 PM No.105634625
>>105634437
Drive letters are based until you want to move your working directory to another resource. And then your shit software still needs gigabytes of cache under C because "that's how we always did it".
I rather have a mount point that I can flexibly put anywhere.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:02:13 PM No.105634636
>>105634625
then use mountpoints in Windows dumbass
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:03:29 PM No.105634644
>>105634636
That no one supports.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:08:11 PM No.105634675
>>105634644
They don’t need to support it, mount another volume as a directory on C:
for example, you can mount D:/Niggers as C:/ProgramData/FaggotAppCache and the application is nonethewiser
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:12:24 PM No.105634716
>>105634675
I have never seen a software doing that. People would rather buy a bigger C drive.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:13:18 PM No.105634720
>>105633068 (OP)
Windows
IT Department
Management
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:14:35 PM No.105634729
>>105633718
running shitty (((security))) spyware and shit apps that could likely be replaced with basic comp sci skills and a proper software team.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:20:38 PM No.105634785
>>105634716
the software doesn't need to do it, retard
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:23:22 PM No.105634807
>>105634785
Who else does it, magic?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:32:52 PM No.105634888
>>105633068 (OP)
is there a MS outage today? i don't see anything in the news
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:33:07 PM No.105634891
>>105634807
NTFS does. Pretty sure it uses reparse points to accomplish it. It should behave similar to symlinks unless M$ is nuts.

Ok I googled, it's reparse points. Honestly I hate drive letter volumes too, so I would probably use this.

>still can't pass cloudflare checks on kuroba
AAAAAAAAA
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:33:18 PM No.105634894
>>105634807
>>105634716
You do it on your Windows install dummy
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:35:46 PM No.105634926
>>105633186
Hospitals are notorious for having insanely shitty IT departments. The pay tends to be the worst in the tech industry and the management completely clueless about IT. Combine them together and you get the medical sector being staffed by those who can't get a IT job anywhere else.
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:58:13 PM No.105635132
>>105633224
is he actually a tranny now?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:00:41 AM No.105635150
>>105633068 (OP)
I can't imagine another reason other than cheap h1b hires and incompetent leadership.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:09:52 AM No.105635214
>>105634926
>the medical sector being staffed by those who can't get a IT job anywhere else.
hmm
this explains a lot actually
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:11:34 AM No.105635227
>>105634926
That explains a co-worker of mine honestly.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:15:33 AM No.105635256
>>105635132
Unforunately, yes. But the troon doesn't stop him being knowledgable about older shit.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:16:52 AM No.105635266
>>105634888
No, OP's just being a turd.

>Hurr my hospital can't pay their I.T. department to get up at 2AM to push updates within 2-4 hour windows before morning shift gets up, and then sleep for the next two days to recover to normal office hours
>On call/rotation schedule? What's that past nurses!?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:49:38 AM No.105635564
>>105634280
how the FUCK is crowdstrike still around after that shit? How did they not get sued into oblivion?? Did anyone get fired??
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:52:36 AM No.105635590
>>105633068 (OP)
shitty MSP

they probably farmed out the contract to ranjeet and friends in new delhi and they updated everything on local time which of course is during the business day for everyone in the hospital
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 12:53:41 AM No.105635599
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>>105634926
Good to know. I may apply to work at my local hospital.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:19:44 AM No.105635827
>>105635564
the suits haven't made it to court yet. i think delta airlines is leading the charge
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 1:25:10 AM No.105635854
>>105635564
>Did anyone get fired??
lol no
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:04:59 AM No.105637196
>>105634331
Yes
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:06:25 AM No.105637204
>>105633700
>middle of the day
It's pitch black outside. Hospitals are a 24/7/365 operation. When tf are you supposed to update?
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:06:26 AM No.105637205
>>105633068 (OP)
Managing a large MS network without setting AD policies and WSUS is just asking for shit like this to happen.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:22:01 AM No.105637273
>>105637204
Out of hours aka when the hospital is least busy and routine procedures are not taking place, going department by department and maximum 50% of machines in a department at one time.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:23:27 AM No.105637279
>>105637273
based on how dark it is outside those windows I'm assuming that's what happened. God damn /g/ is retarded today.
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Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:25:43 AM No.105637300
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>>105637279
are you making the same mistake as poopjeet here: >>105634331 and assuming the OP image (which is a Tiktok thumbnail) is part of OP's premise?
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 5:31:28 AM No.105637338
>>105633821
I'm so glad deranged people like you aren't in charge of important jobs where people's lives are in grave danger
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:50:21 AM No.105637747
>>105633068 (OP)
I'm an RN. Hospital IT and or SWE seem to be some of the worst and they get paid shit. All our computers are completely filled with bloatware. One hospital i worked at the IT department stored the password to our high speed VIP network (doctors) in plaintext.
Anonymous
6/19/2025, 6:51:51 AM No.105637755
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>>105633068 (OP)
>one of the best hospitals in the country
>sysadmins cannot into WSUS