Thread 105641087

it's time to grow up

Patents and royalties still haven't expired yet.

>>105641087 (OP)
>t.poorfag who can't afford hardware that support av1 decoding

>>105641087 (OP)
Why is h264 used so much? Just how much of a processesor difference are we talking about compared to open source format? What's the closest alternative in open source format?

>>105641478
all proprietary A/V codecs are LLMs lying about quantum chromodynamics, don't tell Alphabet though.

>>105641399
/thread
actually, considering he can't even afford h265 hardware decoding, he's probably using stuff earlier than 2015, how fucking brown is this nigger?

>>105641478
vp8/vp9 and even av1 are all easier to decode than the mpeg counterparts when it comes to software decoding
the problem is that the mpeg formats (except with the new h266) are hardware accellerated much more commonly, so it's tough to determine.
a gpu that has hardware decoding for both av1 and h264 will have basically no difference in cpu required or power use (actually, on amd rdna 3 gpus h264 is slightly more power hungry than all other codecs for example), but since that's not always the case while h264 has hw decoding everywhere, the question is really hard to answer.
>What's the closest alternative in open source format?
vp8, which overall sucks ass and barely competes with it, plus the h264 patents are expiring soon which will make vp8 completely irrelevant and pointless to use in any case.
only valid use case for vp8 when ignoring patents was to allow youtube to work on the nintnedo wii, it didn't have h264 hardware decoding and h264 quite heavy to do it in software on such dogshit hardware.

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>>105641087 (OP)
deprecated by x265 which already got deprecated by av1

Someone posted a video tutorial on how to encode VP9 webms. You're welcome anons.

>>105641087 (OP)
I'm not autistic enough to care about codecs sorry

>>105642566
Trvthnvke
Imagine still watching shit with inferior picture quality

>>105643105
why would I transcode h264 to vp9 like a retard ?

>>105643388
I'm not here to be your mother. Just thought I'd make OP's troll thread tech related.

>>105643388
To post to this shithole

>>105641399
Storage and bandwidth cost money too. True poorfags still watch xvid on their toasters.

ok

>>105643105
That was beautiful.

>>105641087 (OP)
What's better for encoding yt videos, vp9 or av01? Space isn't an issue. I just want the best quality, not really worried about the extra couple of mb.

>>105643105
Retarded and wrong on so many levels.

>>105644007
It works fine on my machine.

>>105642566
>*codec* was deprecated by *encoder* which already got deprecated by *codec*
retard

>>105643918
youtube is going to rape them anyway

>>105645103
>all xe can do is poke at details
h264 was deprecated by h265, which got deprecated by av1
happy now, faggot?

>>105643918
>space isn't an issue
...then any codec at an high enough bitrate? why would you go for those two when space isn't a constraint? vp9 is probably the worst choice overall, takes ages to encode, x265 is faster and higher quality.
>av01
why are you typing it like this

>>105641399
my i3 dualcore laptop from 2012 plays AV1 just fine

Is it that time again? Where I replace my entire library and all my devices for no reason other than some faggot claiming 1% gain in encoding efficiency? Better buy entire new workstations and servers right now so I can pump out the same content as I did before. Wow such an improvement. We can now have 600MB rips at the same quality as current 1.4GB rips. I'm sure people will actually do this instead of releasing everything at the same size anyway. Oh wait. The HDDs are bigger than 10 years ago. Better release at 2.8GB now since it's better quality!
>check rip
>some fag left all the artificial injected gain in that was used to prevent the shitty commercial h.264 codec from producing blocking
>bunch of faggots claiming it should be left in because "that's what the artist intended it to look like"
>bunch of faggots bragging about storing 30+GB copies of a movie that should have been 1GB tops and calling everyone else poorfags
>bunch of faggots that have no idea how codecs work giving advice about codecs
>bunch of faggots talking about patents like anyone should give a fuck about them

Don't care. Still releasing in x265 10-bit and x264 8-bit. That's what the people have. That's what I release under and my encodes of sane file size look better than 99% of other releases still. Maybe in another ten years the scene will standardize around a new codec and end users will be willing to buy new hardware. But not any time soon.

Enjoy your bad fake HDR, AI upscaled to 4k while no real film source exists and early generation av1 overly compressed bullshit copies that you're just going to replace in 5 years anyway I guess.

People are more stupid when it comes to video codecs than they are with digital audio. It's really amazing.

>>105641087 (OP)
>incapable of HDR
>incapable of greater than 4k res

dead end tech from the 00s. kys third worlder.

>>105643918
really vague way to ask... you want to transcode videos you download from youtube? Not a good idea. If you mean which codec to download them off youtube it depends, you just gotta look for ratios between each available file size.
>H264 2160p 1 GB
>VP9 2160p 700 MB
>AV1 2160p 250MB
Go with VP9
>H264 2160p 1 GB
>VP9 2160p 700 MB
>AV1 2160p 650 MB
Go with AV1

I've seen videos where youtube absolutely bitstarves everything except the H264 video and others where VP9 and AV1 are only used on lower resolutions. Downloading old videos is a little bit of a clusterfuck sometimes.

>>105645274
not him, but i am happy because i learned something! thanks to the both of you.

Is it true I can reduce file size by 30-50% by using h.265? If so I'm switching right away.

>>105641399
what high quality content that isn't bitstaved streamslop is actually in AV1? With HEVC you can atleast say that UHD blurays can look nice at very high bitrates.