Thread 105649372

anyone run it? what are your experiences with it over something like debian or slow roll opensuse?

>>105649372 (OP)
It feels like a shitty old debian spin with utilities from a souped up busybox. Do not like.

Wake me up when they find someone competent to improve libc without excuses such as
>premature optimization
>I do not understand SIMD
etc etc

>anyone run it?
me
>what are your experiences with it over something like debian or slow roll opensuse?
jails & no systemd
other differences are insignificant to me

>>105649372 (OP)
it's really nice on a server. I love FreeBSD jails and pf.
On a desktop it's good, basically on par with any Linux distro.

>>105649995
>I love security theatre
my server can run as root and won't be pwned

>>105649662
>systemd
blaot

something fucky with the nvidia driver. haven't managed to make it work since upgrade (haven't had time)

>>105649372 (OP)
It uses OSS audio which sucks and isn't widely supported. ALSA can't be installed by default because of the GPL license.

I'm surprised they still get nvidia drivers in 2025 considering they are percentagewise much less popular than 20 years ago or something compared to GNU/Linux back then. Good for them though. The init script stuff is also cool. I tried setting up a mail server on FreeBSD and it was really a pain in the ass, their official documentation is fine, but as soon as you go offroad, helpful documenation is sparse.

>>105653300
The AI stuff runs mostly on BSD on the backend of the big corpos.

>>105653300
>I tried setting up a mail server on FreeBSD and it was really a pain in the ass, their official documentation is fine, but as soon as you go offroad, helpful documenation is sparse.
What are you talking about? I setup a postfix+dovecot mail server on FreeBSD, it was no harder than when I did it on Debian Linux.

I have it on my desktop and all my VPSs

>>105649995
>On a desktop it's good, basically on par with any Linux distro.
Up talking complete shit again, Charles?

>>105649372 (OP)
>anyone run it? what are your experiences with it over something like debian or slow roll opensuse?

It's great, you don't need to update the basic install for about 10 years unless, you run an image board.

>>105649372 (OP)
cuck license

>>105657393
who?

Any real responses in here? Or are the BSD's too based for /g/? Half the complaints in here are total bullshit lol.

>>105653300
Nvidia products are used for all sorts of shit so they probably have a few niche customers who will pay a premium for the support. If they were motivated by desktop market share they would have told FreeBSD and Linux users to go kick rocks ages ago.

>>105659491
hopeless

>>105659491
is damn annoying, each time you update /upgrade is alot of bullshit

and you have to take the time, a weekend.. look no wonder this site got fucked and it's just the server side

>>105649662
>>105649995
>muh jails
>what is Linux cgroups or LXC or systemd-nspawn

>>105649372 (OP)
It was relevant 15+ years ago. Not anymore. Only old servers that are too much of a hassle to upgrade, or companies that use the source to make their own OS without needing to release the modifications (see PS4/PS5's OS) use it in any serious capacity.

>>105650031
>you technically can't break I to a house if I leave all the doors open
*Yawn*

>>105661159
Not entirely true. Whatsapp was based on elixir+freebsd stack before getting bought by Meta
Then they moved the service to Linux just because uniformity of tech space

You don't know which project uses FreeBSD because they don't have to state it

https://freebsdfoundation.org/end-user-stories/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_products_based_on_FreeBSD
https://www.freebsd.org/commercial/isp/

use it on my thinkpad laptop, runs great the only pain in the ass was getting my intel wifi working but with the newest release of 14.3 they fixed it so now I get ax & ac speeds so now it's only like im using linux from 2017 and not linux from 2012.

>>105662662
You can't break into my house if I leave my door unlocked but boobytrapped for faggots like you.

>>105662737
I'm sorry you got so upset over a simple metaphor.

>>105662672
>Whatsapp was based on elixir+freebsd stack before getting bought by Meta
>Whatsapp was released on 2009 and acquired by Facebook/Meta in 2014
In other words 15+ years ago it was relevant, then it stopped being relevant and they moved to Linux. That example doesn't contradict what I said.
If you really want to thoroughly debunk me then show me examples of companies in the late10s or 20s deciding to host new services on FreeBSD servers. Old services that have been based on FreeBSD for decades don't count, it could be chalked up to "if it ain't broke don't fix it" mentality, that is until they suffer the same fate 4chan did recently.

>>105662806
First of all 2025 - 2014 is more near 10 than 15. then the point was that it wasn't ditched because technical merits but because uniformiity and inertia
Second, I gave you 3 links with companies/projects using FreeBSD and also explain why you , unlike with linux, you can't know which companies uses FreeBSD unless they explicitly and voluntary states it

> old services that have been based on FreeBSD for decades don't count
How so? relevancy is just about the number of systems using it, not the reasons behind that decision you mongoloid.

The "if it ain't broken" shit is applied to any technology and it's the reason linux is still relevant, not because technical merits. Instead of using new kernels/OSes that aren't based on 30yo technologies (of 60yo inspiration) we add features and layers of abstraction in order to have a somewhat modern os

Linux is a steaming pile of shit technically, FreeBSD is also shit because the same reasons but it doens't stink as bad at least

>>105662938
>How so? relevancy is just about the number of systems using it, not the reasons behind that decision you mongoloid.
There are companies out there still using ancient COBOL programs to do their business, but you don't see new programs being written in COBOL. There are also companies that use floppy disks because of some ancient machines that require them, that doesn't mean floppy disks are relevant today. My argument is that FreeBSD is reaching or has already reached that same fate. Only used by aging systems or hipsters who think they're too cool to use Linux. Case in point:
>Linux is a steaming pile of shit technically, FreeBSD is also shit because the same reasons but it doens't stink as bad at least

I wish the best for FreeBSD and i tried it but i just had too many issues with it.
There are some bugs and missing features with LXQt but it's usable.
The main issue is trying to do music production on it. I couldn't get it to connect my MIDI controller because ALSA won't work. OSS isn't supported by Ardour. Many audio related packages have no maintainers.
That being said there are parts which I like more than Linux. It feels less fragmented and more easy to understand. The handbook is helpful.

>>105649372 (OP)
why not go all the way and run OpenBSD like a chad?

>>105649372 (OP)
I play around with it on a separate ssd, it's nice when you get it working. It's not particularly hard to follow the manual, and you can get a working desktop setup fairly quickly by using desktop-installer
I do wish it had better wifi and bluetooth. They're working on that. The framework 16 came with a mediatek wifi card and there's a driver for it now but I haven't tried it yet.
Power draw on laptop kinda sucks, don't know how it would be on an actual desktop computer but I imagine it would be better.
pkg is really nice.