WAT

>>105653808 (OP)
schizophrenic website for schizophrenics

>>105653808 (OP)
>IP range banned from /tv/ and only /tv/ again
I wonder which /tv/ schizo uses my IP range. It's been a reoccurring issue for years.

>>105653808 (OP)
Is there an actual reason for this change?

>>105655023
In his dreams he has a plan
Now the janny feels, like such a man
If he could just ban them all
He'd click that button and make that call

Janny janny janny!
Must do banny!
In his 4chan world!

Janny janny janny!
No more spammy!
In a rage he whirled!

>>105653808 (OP)
>(((they))) know

Thank God! This is just one of many positive changes made to this site that gets overlooked because moochers would rather bitch all day:
>No more redirect links
If you clicked on a dead 4chan link, it used to give you a link to the respective board's catalog underneath the 404 error. Obviously this took up too much space and I would much prefer to hit backspace on the address bar.
>No more publicly readable bans
You used to be able to read the offending messages on 4chan.org/bans, but I like it more when mods aren't subject to scrutiny and there's no evidence these posts ever existed.
>No more IP counters
These just took up space and it's much nicer having a cleaner interface without them. I also like it when schizos can samefag incessantly without any smoking guns.
>No more feedback options
6 feedback categories became 2, which is very good because having so many options was confusing. Besides, 4chan obviously has no problems with moderation, features, spam filters, or boards anyway.
>No webp support
I like how webm has been supported for over a decade yet the most popular image format online still isn't, despite literally being still-frame webms. I enjoy converting 99% of images I upload to 4chan.

>>105655100
i think this anon is being sarcastic

>>105653808 (OP)
just write a user script that sets `window.isIncognito` to false

>>105655100
webp doesnt exist anywhere. take your meds

please understand, cp spamming shartyfags have done irreparable damage to the internet

>>105655100
we are cucks

blame leto and co. iykyk.

>>105655100
>No more publicly readable bans
wtf is the point of this page then lmao. It doesn't even say when they were banned, why bother updating it every two hours? It could just be random text and I'd have no proof otherwise.

>>105655100
>>105655326
>>No more publicly readable bans
Reminder: Mods removed it because a month ago the system published a bunch of junior gravure after Jay Erwin gave a CSAM spammer mere 3-day bans on each IP.

>>105657724

>>105655133
Gee, you think? Wooow, you're so perceptive!

>>105655023
you can email the mods to get your ip unbanned

>>105655028
I like this one more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nvdw0GMa8Ek

>>105653808 (OP)
Easily bypassed with a ublock origin rule btw

>>105660634
Which is?

>>105653808 (OP)
It is retarded, and kinda useless since you can make a browser behave like it would in incognito anyway. Also, it doesn't even work correctly, I'm in incognito currently

>>105655100
I actually agree with two of those. IP counters were used to get around anonymity by allowing apps to detect whenever a poster was new to the thread or not, so it's good that they are gone. And webp support hopefully never gets added, that file format is a cancerous growth on the Internet (Google is trying to force it on every webmaster, which results in every website adding a plugin that CONVERTS ALL EXISTING FILES TO WEBP, making the format lose all of its advantages in the lossy transcoding).

>>105661268
It doesn't check Incognito, it checks either the pragma or the cache-control fields, or whatever it is incognito mode sets to bypass checking. Basically if you press F12 and tick the "disable cache" checkbox on the network tab, 4chan will block your posts.

>>105660971
Who knows?

>>105661367
>And webp support hopefully never gets added, that file format is a cancerous growth on the Internet
but enough about jpeg

>>105659280
How long does it take for them to process the request? I have 10 threads on /tv/ that desperately need my input.

>>105655193
I blame more mods being gigantic retards who just do the bare minimum when against anyone with the faintest know-how
No wonder this place had an old ass exploitable lib that got pwned
>posted from the furry's site that bypasses the incognito shit and bans in general(4chan d-t gay)

>>105661938
i honestly don't have a problem with casual proxy users. just the ones who use it to spam cp on specific boards. it's a shame.

>>105661769
you can also try the irc channel

>>105655100
>No more publicly readable bans
What? Why for fucks sake. I remember that i read them like a month ago, what's the reason for this dogshit change?

>>105663659
SUUUUPPOSEDLYYY someone who was posting kids was getting just 3 day bans. besides the length, the problem is that those bans are usually not public for obvious reasons. higher ups seemingly shit themselves and disabled it.

>>105653808 (OP)
there has to be an implementation flaw if they can detect this

>>105661390
huh i thought that mode just isolates the tab as if it was a separate profile, not that it creates an fingerprintable placebo event

>>105663696
well ip bans are pretty ineffective anyway. the dedicated spammers just use throwaway addresses that might eventually make it to a legit user that will then be left wondering why he is permanently banned despite not having posted anything

>>105659280
Depends.
Last time half my town was range banned and they wouldnt lift it

>>105664681
Happens all the time; just appeal it

>>105657724
Actually, they butchered that silently years ago (nearly a decade ago) to cover up when Jews were banning people for merely criticising Israel.
Without old (8)chan I would have never have known about this.

4chan is a shit website

Incognito is just a temporary clean slate, don't preserve data session. It's not 4chan exclusive, incognito simply fucks with file uploads by design. Tor Browser does it way better by giving you a fully working browser session that autocleans itself on exit.

>>105661938
I can imagine some features on the site being removed because it would crash under PHP8.2

testing

>>105667080
testing again

>>105667080
ok, this was posted under Chrome 95 in incognito.

>>105667112
and this one is latest MS Edge 137 in incognito.

Both posted fine.
So I'm not entirely sure wtf the OP is talking about? Is it a specific board only thing? Or a mobile thing? I don't even know if those errors show under mobile.

>>105667133
might be just firefox

>>105655023
The rangebans these days are mostly fake. What's really happening is they don't like your browser fingerprint.

>>105653808 (OP)
>incognito mode
So you're underage and trying to hide from parents? You know incognito mode doesn't actually hide your traffic from anyone besides those with access to your computer lmao

>>105667172
Me browsing at work and don't want to bother clearing my history when I can just incognito

>>105667156
testing from firefox

>>105667385
well, seems all 3 major browsers work in incognito mode. OP, wtf were you doing?

>>105667172
Keeps cookies separate and history clean

continuing from >>105647635

Knowing who are the main people behind the relatively recent csam spam on 4chan, does this mean that leto also goes after alt chans? Or is that just a fabrication? What about picrel?

>>105667856
is picrel just a larp? if so, why do altchuds not survive (assuming this part isnt also a larp?)

Have you guys seen a deleted thread that wasn't actually get deleted? Just moved off the 'log?
I replied to this thread, >>>/v/713216581 obviously deleted for off-topic but the thread is still "active" you just can't see it in the 'log or post in it.
It's in thread limbo.

>>105668241
maybe it's just a caching issue? the images don't load for me and your link is considered dead

>>105667856
>does this mean that leto also goes after alt chans?
i don't believe so.
>Or is that just a fabrication?
of what?
>What about picrel?
mostly true stuff but unrelated.

>>105667869
aaaaa stop noticing

>>105668358
by fabrication i meant if the feds do actually go after alt chans
esl moment o algo

>post from desktop fine
>post from laptop fine
>try to post from phone on same network
>IP range ban
>Still able to post on desktop/laptop
At least they banned phoneposters

>>105668361
>by fabrication i meant if the feds do actually go after alt chans
for sure. it's been years since i dug into any of this, but it was all coming from the same places. the posts and images were all structured in the same format.

shoutout to the tranny who partially fixed the cp spam problem for vichan (only for it to get bypassed months later. eugh...)

>>105668378
are there any known specific motivations or is it just "wrongthink bad" like governments do in general i guess?

>>105659280
>need to unban my IP
>writing an email
>"your email domain is not allowed"
>"please use trusted email providers with identity verification such as Google"
>"we totally won't sell your browsing habits to Palantir, pinky promise!"

They ban fingerprints now not ip ranges

>>105668758
So it means that firefox is successful at thwarting fingerprinting?

>op inspect elements a post error
>50 posts of rabid janniphobia and antisemitism
>only one person even attempts to replicate the error
Impressive bait. lecyaco

>>105668870
The error is a real one and I did get it before not even in incognito lmao. I can't remember what triggered it. I don't try to post with chromium garbage so it's never a problem. Posting from private browsing in Firefox and it's derivatives works.

>>105668870
that one guy here. I checked the source leak and it is indeed real, but, it runs on the javascript side and executes this code: https://github.com/Joe12387/detectIncognito
Or at least that's what the comments in the 4chan source leak of 2025 april say. It doesn't load it as an external library though, it's embedded in the main core.js file.

I probably couldn't replicate it because it's possible that browsers patched it since, or because devs use an older version and don't maintain it.

Here's the relevant code, with some of the syntax simplified so it fits in the post limit:

/*! https://github.com/Joe12387/detectIncognito */
function checkIncognito() {
if (window.isIncognito !== undefined) {return;}
if (!navigator.maxTouchPoints || navigator.vendor === undefined) { window.isIncognito = false; return; }
(new Promise(function(resolve, reject) {
let eh = eval.toString().length;
if (navigator.vendor.indexOf('Apple') === 0 && eh === 37) {
if (navigator.maxTouchPoints === undefined) { resolve(false); }
let db_name = Math.random().toString();
try {
let db = window.indexedDB.open(db_name, 1);
db.onupgradeneeded = function (e) {
let res = e.target.result;
try { res.createObjectStore('test', { autoIncrement: true }).put(new Blob); resolve(false); }
catch(err) {
let msg;
if (err instanceof Error) {
msg = err.message;
}
if (typeof msg !== 'string') {
resolve(false);
}
resolve(/BlobURLs are not yet supported/.test(msg));
}
finally { res.close(); window.indexedDB.deleteDatabase(db_name); }
};
}
catch(err) { resolve(false); }
}
else if (navigator.vendor.indexOf('Google') === 0 && eh === 33) {
let hsl;
try { hsl = performance.memory.jsHeapSizeLimit; }
catch(err) { hsl = 1073741824; }
navigator.webkitTemporaryStorage.queryUsageAndQuota(function (_, quota) {
let q = Math.round(quota / (1024 * 1024));
let q_lim = Math.round(hsl / (1024 * 1024)) * 2;
resolve(q < q_lim);
}, function (err) { resolve(false); });
}
else if (document.body.style.MozAppearance !== undefined && eh === 37) { resolve(navigator.serviceWorker === undefined); }
else { resolve(false); }
})).then((v) => window.isIncognito = v);
}

>>105669652
>with some of the syntax simplified
er, I mean, indentation removed. Not syntax. sorry, I just woke up. Let's check it out.

What the code does is run a bunch of browser checks and then write the result into window.isIncognito. This check is run when the MOBILE POST FORM is pulled up, and the isIncognito value is evaluated on post form submit event. So getting around it is trivial, just write a tampermonkey script that listens to whenever you unfocus any field in the post form (ie. from moving to textarea and click submit, the textarea loses focus), and set window.isIncognito to false.

The checkIncognito part seems to only focus on detecting mobiles as well.
navigator.maxTouchPoints will always return 0 on desktops for example.
navigator.vendor returning undefined, I don't know what causes that, but on desktops it always shows up as a string or empty text in firefox. Also, it's deprecated, so when browsers remove it, the entire code will break on the second line.
let eh = eval.toString().length;
this part is funny, because eval.tostring() turns into
'function eval() { [native code] }' in chrome (33 length), but
"function eval() {
[native code]
}" in firefox (37 length), and presumably, safari.
Based on this the code runs three different paths.
Firefox is simple. It checks if document.body.style.MozAppearance exists to identify Firefox, then checks if navigator.serviceWorker exists or not. Service workers apparently don't work in Firefox in private mode. This would correctly identify Firefox Incognito mode, however since it only runs on phones, or when you load the site with the mobile theme (ie. low resolution then ctrl+F5), it never triggered for me, hence why I could post at >>105667385 from firefox incognito.

>>105669652
oy vey!

>>105669771
>>105669652
https://github.com/gorhill/ublock/wiki/Resources-Library#defuser-scriptlets

just defuse their govno JShit kod

>>105669807
https://github.com/gorhill/ublock/wiki/Resources-Library#abort-current-scriptjs-

addendum

>>105655026
Lmao are you guys really this naive or something? 4chan is all about tracing its users to then sell the sweet sweet data.

Friendly reminder https://anonymous-japan.org/fake2ch/

>>105669829
>sell the sweet sweet data
Well if I look into my requests. The data they have is worthless and uMatrix blocks their scripts.
>sweet sweet data
sweet sweet garbage bytes

>>105669829
>muh psyop!
I'm more worried about catching stupidity from all the ESL posters here than the harmless shit the glowies pull with AI generated slide threads that should demoralize me even more.
*yawns*
I am a civilian and I will never get drafted. I'm glad about all these genZ/genAnal who will charge for my safe millennial ass in endless banzai charges into the enemy crossfire.

Can we talk about tech again?

>>105661644
I really like this image

>>105666727
2 months ago it was working just fine, I remember going in there and seeing the exact reason and hovering to see the original post

>>105669849
You are traced by cloudflare and the captcha module. They can cross reference you with everything else handled by cloudflare. NSA would pull up your browser signature and see what you did here, on reddit, google, ... So so naive.

>>105655023
I hope the IP range is India.

>>105669652
>>105669771
cont.
On Safari, first it checks for maxTouchPoints... again... despite checking it at the start.
Then it tests if it can write a BlobURL into indexedDB, and if it fails, resolves isIncognito to true. Funny thing is, this would error out in Firefox Incognito too, but the code only checks it for Safari.

Then on Chrome and Edge and anything else that has Google as the navigator vendor, it will check the temporary file storage size. For Chrome ver 95 I get 299345586585, but only get 766226371 in incognito (949677484 in Edge), so there's a clear difference that can be detected. But, it only runs on mobile, not desktop. This could be used to detect desktop incognito mode too. Very nice.

If none of these three paths find anything, it just sets isIncognito to false.
So to summarize:
- for Safari, it checks if it can write to IndexedDB
- for Chrome, it checks the temporary file storage size
- for Firefox, it checks if Service Workers are available
- only runs for mobile browsers, so you'll never trigger it on desktop unless you are emulating the mobile view.
- piss easy to get around since it writes the value it detected into a global.

>>105669907
The uncompressed code is here by the way, line 2304: https://s.4cdn.org/js/core.js

also interesting that there were no updates to the site JS code since the hack in April, other than a change in the hCaptcha site key.

>>105655100
fuck off with your webp. im never using anything that is forced down my throat like i were a fucking pig

>>105669928
you have already lost.

>>105669900
yes yes, we all know this, you had no issue with google captcha either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTsBP21-XpI

>inb4 this guy is a faggot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqE0ltifQ2M
he is notm talks about microwave weapons of glowies

>>105669907
>- for Firefox, it checks if Service Workers are available
NO it does fucking NOT
mine are OFF since years and I enforce it by my own local machine policies

>>105667856
That post just screams retarded admin to me. Most "commercial" CP spam comes from Russia and Brazil. They use proxies, of course, but you can identify them via fingerprints easily since they do not run any browser with anonymity settings. Or just ban anyone with a timezone set to any of the ones used by those countries (Russia has several, but most spam comes from the Vladivostok timezone).

For Sharty spam, yeah they also use proxies, but fingerprint ban is your friend there as well. For me they just post nigger gore. The only time I had an actual user post CP to derail the thread, it was from Tor so I just blocked that (node IPs are public so you can grab that).

And yeah you absolutely need to check fingerprints to moderate an anonymous imageboard. You can ban users who use VPNs that way, while keeping VPNs allowed. Most imageboard software have no ways of doing this as far as I know, I run my own custom solution to get around it. I imagine that's why sharty spams altchans, because they are VERY VERY EASY targets. It's also why sharty has webassembly based port scans in integrity.wasm, they use it to identify people who use VPNs (they also flag those who run discord or VNC servers so they can attack them later).

>wah wah all that CP it had to be glowniggers
unfortunately no, some people actually just have that content to spam.

>>105669980
>NO it does fucking NOT
Yes it does. It literally checks (navigator.serviceWorker === undefined) on the firefox code path. On my end, that returns false on Firefox normal desktop, but true on Firefox incognito desktop. Didn't check mobiles.

>mine are OFF since years and I enforce it by my own local machine policies
That would identify you as using incognito, but since the code only runs if the mobile UI is active, you'd never trigger it.

>>105670055
doesn't limit my posting, doesn't give me harder captchas. I even isolate with temporary containers that nuke itself and storage. try prototype pollution.

>>105670037
do you what imageboard/imageboard software has the best cp protection overall?

>>105657724
>>105670093
>>105670037
is that your favourite shitpost topic or do you want to get the thread pruned by using these terms and subjects?

>>105670070
You are running a desktop browser, nigger. The incognito check only runs when the site loads its mobile view (4chan sets up a slightly alternate UI if you load a page on mobile).

>>105670093
No clue, last time I looked at public imageboard software it took them 2-3 years to implement certain bans I already had simply by analysing the incoming spam posts.

>>105670103
Discussing how to block cp spammers online is technology.

>>105670123
you just don't fucking get it >>105669807 >>105669818
it doesn't run anywhere you hilarious moron
I guess defusing code is really new to you
I simply refuse to execute it, does my fucking post execute in your sub 80 IQ ESL brain?

>>105670093
do you know*

>>105670123
>The incognito check only runs when the site loads its mobile view
specifically, you have to run the mobile view, you must have touch inputs enabled, and you must click the post reply to have the incognito check. This can be simulated in firefox easily.

>>105670139
Could you do the same as on the screenshot and check the value of isIncognito?

>>105668758
only partially

they stop banning your ips eventually. maybe after a failed gambit but they will.

>>105670139
4chan didn't allow you to post with JS disabled last time I checked, so preventing it from running won't do shit.

>>105670123
thanks for insight, even it raises more questions than answers

>>105670103
jesus dude, this is one of the few chances i get to ask actual meta questions

do you really like your normie/reddit tier threads on /g/ so much?

>>105670037
>>105670123
another question, why do you think the powers of 4chud try to wipe any info on jay and vacbob so hard? from what ive heard the former isnt that active, and i think the latter wouldve been fired from apple long ago if anybody cared about his background

>>105670442
or are they just THAT spastic and dumb?

>>105655023
Many years ago certain providers were blanket banned from /a/, can't imagine why, its just mods being lazy and using broad strokes

>>105670442
Who are those? I don't follow the drama crap.

>>105670442
Dox are against the rules, it applies to anybody's not just theirs. But theirs is spammed so much that it's going to be really fucking obvious when the mods look in the report queue and see the same old shit. When the spammer(s) switched up their tactics I saw it stay up longer but the mods eventually catch on. If you want to be a spammer of any kind it's diminishing returns once you get noticed by a mod. You need to back off once it happens then try again later without the same exact pattern.

>>105669928
you use 4chan my man, you are worse than a pig

>>105670547
seems pretty weird they would follow one rule while barely actually doing their jobs (and also saving cp)

to each to their own i guess

>>105670732
It's not that they don't do their jobs. It's that they're bad at it and lazy. If you're being a spammer but your tactics are also lazy and sloppy you make it easy on them.

>>105670747
then why bother becoming one in the first place

who are you gonna brag about it to exactly

best case scenario you might get some sort of mental affliction from moderating all the garbage
i dont understand and i dont think i ever fully will

>>105670781
>then why bother becoming one in the first place

Spamming means doing something 1000000 of times and having it do nothing 999999 times, but if that remaining 1 gets you a hit, you get a huge payoff. That's why you have to make sure you go for the easiest targets, because it allows you to get more coverage.
That's why altchans get so much cp spam, they have no defense. The minute I started doing advanced cp spam detection, the amount of incoming spam decreased a hundredfold.

I'm just talking in general though, I have no clue what jay and vacbob are. anyone care to clue me in?

>>105670818
i meant why bother becoming a mod/janny

>>105670818
Two 4chan memes that have had their dox spammed all over this board, jay for being an iToddler and vacbob for being an actual Apple employee. The jay spam started before the hack/leaks and the most common spammer believed insane conspiracies about him since he was a /g/ mod. Basically blamed every problem with rule violators here not being taken care of on him being an iToddler. The spam was often more annoying than the garbage OS war posts.

>>105670818
jay is the defacto dictator of /g/, sometimes know as $W@glord (look up that name with normal letters on soi wiki, im doing this so he doesnt get notified or whatever) who spams anti linux and windows threads and pro apple threads. most obvious example <<105647378 - he will make some deliberately dumb title, call meds on you when you call him out, do some samefagging to when you criticise apple stuff like calling you indian (android), tranny (linux), so on and so forth.
or at least thats what most people say, it could be just a troll janny for all i know.

vac is the supposed head admin of 4chud - he apparently works or worked for apple and is also blamed for apple shilling - jannies will wipe anything about him ever working there so he doesnt get fired or whatever farts they huffed thinking anybody who would have ever cared wouldnt have already fired him kek

>>105670919
also necrobump his close to death threads because hes that much of a pissbaby

>>105670919
>>105647378 *

>>105670943
Literally the first post was a jay dox. Hilarious!

>>105671029
that was mine lol
mostly to test his reaction time
he failed that test miserably

>>105670919
>vac is the supposed head admin of 4chud

is that the guy who built a 4chan proxy and requires you to send a picture of your pubes for access?

>>105671071
thats ecker

its pretty weird

the powers at the top could acknowledge leto being a very major problem to 4chan and talk about how he spams the site with cp and maybe get some help from the community and such but instead they just completely shut down any discussion about him while spamming their own garbage

>>105670846
Jannies seem to spend the most effort babysitting their favorite generals. In /a/ and /v/ "troll" posts on loli threads get deleted near instantly yet loli porn will only get deleted when reported and only if it's reported with the right option ("loli porn" and "not work safe image" are not the same). Mods require this because they don't actually want to remove those posts. This applies to all reports, even illegal ones. If you report it as off-topic instead of illegal mods will ignore it. The mods/jannies on smaller and non-media boards are more reasonable though.

>>105671250
Leto's ecker clone has done wonders for mods and jannies 'p collections. Why would they stop their primary source?

>>105671643
well, yeah, i assumed they care even a little about this site

>>105671643
>Mods require this because they don't actually want to remove those posts.
It's not that simple, there's a system in place so they have to create template based bans, and if the template does not match the real reason for the ban, the jannies/mods can get removed for not handling it correctly. There was a screenshot of a mod creating a non-template ban, and got canned for it because custom bans are not 4chan policy.

I swear I'm not making this up.
Since the site is too large to set up moderators based on mutual trust, they have to have all this garbage bureaucracy set in place, so if a mod has a bad day and deletes half the site or bans half the internet, there can be repercussions.

>>105671688
how hard is it to become a mod/janny? can you fake your info and get the position?

>>105671688
how do you swear? source?

if you dont wanna answer, dont, no pressure, im not trying to be an asshole

>>105671709
>>105671717
Just read the leaked /j/ dump and the source code, idiots.

>>105671735
if he looked at /j/, he would quote /j/ instead of saying "i swear im not making this up"

at least thats what i assume

>>105653808 (OP)
>use chrome
>bother with incognito
lmao

>>105671749
I don't have the screenshot saved, but there was a guy who got a non-template ban and mods made a ruckus about explaining how this isn't the norm.
But other things like the janitor agreement are real things, the template system can be seen on the leaked screenshots of /j/ and the team.4chan.org admin panel and even in the phpmyadmin screengrab.

That plus I run an altchan (April was really wild), and had to deal with rogue mods and spam attacks, so I understand the pressure the 4chan admins would be in. The templating system is simply the easiest way to keep track of the chaos, and when you have janitor recruitment every year, losing a good mod due to having too many logged errors is not a big deal when the system keeps out the multiple actual bad ones.

>>105671926
so is 4chan "shit" mostly because of leto and a few swaglord tier retards or does the blame still somewhat fall on mods and jannies as a whole for not doing shit?

>>105671949
and yeah i know, reality might be little more complicated than 'its his fault' or 'its xer fault' or whatever

im asking because i rarely get any "insider" (read: someone who is actually on the frontlines of the bullshit) info

>>105671949
speaking of leto

does anybody use his infrastructure to spam alt chans? if so, what percentage of all bad stuff is from it?

>>105671949
It's shit because there's nobody at the helm, and the only thing the admin/dev team is allowed to do is to keep the site running. So they have a system in place that works 95% of the time, that they keep patching to go on. If it alienates a percentage of users, it doesn't matter, because the site still gets 700k posts a day (which means nearly a thousand posts were made by the time I typed this up). As long as the system prevents the site from getting deplatformed, the system works.

I still say an easier solution would be to just set the bump limits back down to ~100 posts like they used to be, and remove all archiving. The site would descend into chaos, but it would normalise in a year at most. You wouldn't have to police CP spam if it gets auto purged by incoming new posts before a report can be processed by anyone. The fact that the site is so adamant against this and instead tries to piss in the wind constantly with fucked up protections, makes me think that there has to be some actual deal with law enforcements so they can analyse post data for law breaking content.

>>105672005
dunno but I'd be interested to see what kind of spam gets posted from whatever his infrastructure uses. chances are I already have samples of it, I'd just want to identify it.

>>105672058
whats the big deal with making a new owner/leader? hiro probably barely even remembers he owns this site and he sure as hell doesnt care about it, so why not just let someone like doll or froot? it would be kinda funny too

>>105672177
It means the site can't change. And hiro still owns the site and presumably pays for it too. So if someone changes it and fucks things up, hiro will be the one the authorities will question. Then he asks whichever chucklefuck decided to change things, and since the mod/admin team has to have their legal info on record to operate the site, that means whatever legal problems the site gets will be deferred to whoever changed it in a way that it gets legal problems.

The alternative would be explaining to a judge that the reason a billion hit per day website started hosting CP is because you wanted to make things better. Or if it results in doubling the site bandwidth, they have to foot the bill.

So right now the name of the game is don't rock the boat. I've been in this situation before, it is the bane of managing a site not owned by you.

the sherty should have finished the job

>>105672991
agreed, I wish so much that they had released the SQL dumps.

>>105672991
they had one fucking job

>>105672764
why doesnt he get rid of his ownership already? though i guess that could be answered by why he bought it in the first place

>a meta thread
>on /g/
>up for 2 days
that's rare.

>>105673535
who will cover the costs then?

>>105673624
#1 how much does it actually cost to run the website?

#2 how much less would it cost if >>105672058
was implemented

#3 how funny would it be if even current sharty admins could run 4chan- okay this would never happen but its still funny to think about

>>105673639
>#1 how much does it actually cost to run the website?
Nobody knows, the only numbers we had were from hiro and were proven to be lies.

>#2 how much less would it cost if
active content would be greatly reduced, so you wouldn't need 1-2TB of space.
beyond that it would reduce the size of the database, but I'm not sure how much change that would do.
Faster posting and pruning would increase cpu and disk load.
if archiving can be axed, that would reduce load, but I don't know if that's possible in any way and keep the API intact.

>>105673703
they probably dont run 4chan on a quad mac mini rack or something similar in power lol, but i doubt they need super high bandwidth every month considering user activity is lower compared to even pregamergate at least according to 4stats.io and even back then they used only 10 gigabit which is definitely cheaper now

a single used threadripper in whoevers basement for a few thousand bucks could maybe work (dont take anything i say as serious, i have never personally run an imageboard and most likely never plan to)

>>105669829
>sell
it's the nsa, retard.

>>105673800
i mean heck there was anecdotal evidence that sharty is being run on a single celeron o algo

>>105673800
yes and I suppose everyone just has a couple thousand dollars sitting around so they can buy a new server, and move them into location in a server room and set it up, and pay for the colocation costs too.

and also the bandwidth cost.

>>105673865
you could save a thousand dollars every year if you just stopped drinking coffee at starbucks every day