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Previous thread: >>105643590

>>105663867 (OP)
thread sucks. abandon ship and go to >>>/lgbt/

>>105663876
>2025
>being a bigot

reposting

This might be a retarded question, but when I am using the terminal, when I cd into a directory and then ls and a bunch of names pop up, how am I supposed to know what's a directory and what's a file?

For example in windows I could know whether something is a file or a folder (obviously with the gui a yellow folder is easy to spot, I'm not expecting that in a terminal) just by looking at the extensions (if they are enabled), for example .pdf, .txt, .mp3, etc.

there are no file extensions so how do I know what the different names are?

>>105663179
>>105663853
Well it wasn't the network manager, a random r*ddit thread pointed me to removing my USB devices, and it turns out my mouse usb reciever is the cause of the issue, no idea on how to fix it yet. Though my keyboard will wake it up from sleep as well if I press any key, which isn't how I like it but whatever.

>>105663966
ls -la

the first letter in the perms field indicates what kind of file it is.
you can also type
file /path/to/trannyporn

that will spit out more verbose info.

>>105664129
oh also you can alias ls to
ls --color=always

that will enable color coding to file types.

>>105663966
See
>>105664075

I downloaded bitmap fonts from https://github.com/masaeedu/bitmap-fonts, added to /usr/share/fonts/bitmap, but only Terminus shows up in Cinnamon or Mousepad font selection. The fonts do show up in fc-list, but I can't use them anywhere. I replaced absolutely everything with Terminus, but I still want to use other bitmap fonts. I didn't do sudo dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig because I'm on Arch. I reinstalled fontconfig but that probably didn't do anything.

>>105663896
>is also a bigot
Learn what words mean.

>>105664949
bitmap fonts are deprecated

A meeting of minds

>>105665752
I can't use anything but them. I get headache, nausea and tinnitus from "scalable" fonts.

>>105665766
iTODDLERS BTFO

>>105665833
>I get headache, nausea and tinnitus from "scalable" fonts.
This reads like satire

>>105666004
That nigger had some bizarre monitor he refuses to get rid of even though passable 1080p displays are free. Ignore him.

>>105666004
It isn't. I am still not used to "scalable" fonts despite being forced to look at them for 10 years. They still look blurry, fuzzy and ugly.

>>105666012
I have 1080p, also "scalable" fonts have been ugly on every single monitor I've read them on.

gaymer go to >>>/vg/lgg with your bazzinga and noobara, tyvm

I have a weird issue with my wired connection being stuck to 100Mbps instead of what it should be (500). Any way to fix it? On Fedora KDE if that matters.
Wifi is at the correct speed and I do have the link negotiation in network settings speed set higher than 100. Also no its not the cable because I can dual boot into Windows and wired gets full speed.

kde is crashing nearly constantly now. if i open too many tabs in firefox the fucking screen will just freeze? i'm guessing this is too little ram at 16gb which how did we get here.
but then, like, i'm also experiencing kde-win crashing, just whenever, and then that going infinite, like crash restarts itself crash etc.. everything turns black and flickers and becomes ununusable.
weirdly everything was kind of fine until i guess mesa updated. maybe it's that? maybe it's ram? i've only been using linux for a year so kind of a noob here, but, like, if people here even know how to like investigate this stuff that would be cool. i've tried google searches. i've tried reading journalctl and yeah there's timedout job -> engine reset. great.
does wayland just suck? does kde just suck? it was working once

But why

>>105667128
>does wayland just suck?
yes
>does kde just suck?
yes

>>105667315
pacman -Rdd linux-firmware
pacman -Syu linux-firmware

I finally learned nftables. It's not a mystery now.

>>105667315
>>105667419
>he doesn't individually pick blobs from kernel.org

>>105667634
I love this blob

>>105667449
Are you going to set up a gentoo router now?

how to i check crash/freeze log, ngbuntu

>>105667128
me too, since the last few weeks

>>105667829
Lol this nigga using nigbuntu what a clown

Are namespaces the new containers? Looking over the documentation it seems really easy to set up a fully isolated custom system for development with exactly what you want.

My kernel patch got approved by gregkh this week. It was just a small driver fix but after over a decade of using Linux and sending bugfixes to distros and userspace upstream projects I finally contributed back to the kernel.

>>105667316
>blames KDE's faults on Wayland
many such cases

>>105668088
Containers are built out of namespaces you dummy. The whole point of containers is so that you don't have to set the namespace restrictions up by hand.

>>105668257
Well what if I want to? Check mate you filthy frog poster

>>105668296
>slowpoke
>frog

>>105668243
Based kernel hacker.

>>105668243
Everything counts. Good job man.

Lubuntu vs Mint xfce

Which one shall I begin with

>>105668243
Based

>>105668243
>Kernel contributor ITT
Based and cute

>>105668506
The rat doesn't disappoint but I believe lxqt uses less ram if it's a critical point for you

How do I install Chrome on Arch? Firefox is my daily driver, but I still need to sync my Chrome accounts and whatnot because I do all my online shopping on a secondary browser.

>>105668595
I enabled AUR on pamac, but now whenever I search anything on pamac I'm inundated with hundreds of AUR results...

I've installed Chrome this way, but can I still keep Chrome up to date whilst having AUR disabled in pamac?

>>105668574
I just like it lightweight since I don't need much other than browser

>>105663896
lurk moar

>>105668908
This website has always been riddled with degenerates, faggots, furrries and trannies, anon. Did you join in 2016 or something?

>>105668925
This year chud *^)

>>105668506
Mint Xfce

>>105669043
Y

Today, I understood the importance of testing on vm

Which is the best vm

>>105669084
Mint is better than Ubuntu
Xfce is better than LXQt
Choice seems obvious

How to get thinkcenter m910q fan speed monitoring on arch linux?
lm_sensors aren't detecting it.
However hardware info on windows do.

I have i5-6500T, and it's my first time installing arch.
When under load, the CPU freq doesn't go above 2.7, despite the datasheet saying it should reach 3.1
What do I need to do?

Hi, /fglt/!

Is there a utility or option that will show the progress of a file transfer when using commands like cp or mv?

https://litter.catbox.moe/0dcispi22dfyvwet.jpg

Made a bootabke usb. Installation failed halfway. Now usb isn't connecting anywhere.

Solution?

>>105669295
Using an Android device? Brave.

Henlo /g/entlemen, Im currently trying to switch from windows10 to something Linux.
So far I zoned in to Debian, but after looking at desktop environments I found Cinnamon. I found that there is a Debian based Linux Mint (LMDE) distro that, if I understand well, just Debian with Cinnamon pre installed and configured.
So my question is, is there any difference between installing Debian stable then throwing Cinnamon on it, and flat out using LMDE?
What would be the definitive /g/ choice?

To add, I used Linux here-and there before, and Im not THAT retarded, although I choose Cinnamon because its looks exactly like windows...

Hi bros asking again, what's the easiest way to get the equivalent of this on KDE? Or otherwise, is it available on Gnome?

>>105668506
Didn't you post this in a previous thread? Anyway I personally like Ubuntu and LXQt but people on /g/ like Mint because they endlessly seethe about snaps. Just go with what you prefer.

>>105668595
>>105668873
Argh, whatever. I installed BOTH Chrome from AUR, and Chromium from the Arch repo. I synced via AUR Chrome, then renamed the ~/.config/google-chrome folder to ~/.config/chromium so all my stuff is now there in Chromium (which will update via pamac). If I ever need to update my stuff on Google's end, I'll rename the chromium folder back to google-chrome and resync.

>>105669509
debian is debian and mint is mint, they are not the same.

I have the suspicion that my CPU fan/temperature control is not really working after waking from sleep?
On a fresh restart its fine, but if I wake from sleep and then start a game for example the CPU goes up to 85°C

Ryzen 3600
Is this a known issue and any fix for it? Haven't really found anything while googling

>>105669509
1. LMDE might have some changes compared to regular Debian. You could look into that.
2. Installing Cinnamon on top of Debian shouldn't be too difficult. I've changed DEs on distros before - you might have to run some terminal commands to make the new DE the default, but it's pretty straightforward. Just google it or ask ChatGPT for how to do it.
3. People on /g/ sometimes complain about Debian having older packages compared to other distros. I think it's okay though. At least Debian is stable and AFAIK it gets security updates. When you need the latest software you can often install it as a Flatpak, or a Snap, or an AppImage, or using Homebrew.
4. Cinnamon isn't the only Windows-like DE. KDE Plasma is pretty Windows-like too. Also there's LXQt, a lightweight DE, if you want something lightweight.

>Mangohud reads some random temp, thats not even changing but fixed instead of Tctl
Just Linux moments, was working fine yesterday

>>105669509
The problem with both is that they're outdated as fuck. You'd be on an OS that's "Linux, but if it's 3-5 years ago". It's likely that some of your software, video games or hardware would just fail to work properly.
Debian (or any other LTS distro) is a distro for servers or something low maintenance like a public library/school computer. It's not something an average sane desktop user would want on their PC. It would be equivalent of still using Windows 7 right now.

>want to write chord text over music notes in pdf sheet
>every piece of software is hell to use
>identify foxit reader for linux as the least shitty option
>one day, want to use foxit as usual. it's no longer there
>no longer supported by developer
>looks life it self-destructed (wtf)
>install foxit in wine
>indecent slow as shit bloatware. over a second to move a piece of text by one tiny step with arrow keys
behead all modern software devs

>>105664949
old format support is dropped. convert to otb

Windowsfag here, wanting to move away from windows because of glow.
>try mint cinnamon
mouse is floaty even after fixing refresh rate, and turning off acceleration, apperantly this is a complain on the mint forums going bACK almost 10 years
>try fedora KDE
somehow more bloated and slower than windows, removing bloat takes multiple clicks and i have to re-open menu the entire time, selecting pre installed applications shows me 1000+ items, with individual fonts listed alongside full scale programs, alos had to type in 15 different commands just to get my refresh rate to 240hz because they dont offer and easy way to install nvidia drivers
>try ubuntu
gnome slop
>try arch
the arch wiki is good by foss standards, that is to say not very good, also command line
>unironically try gentoo
KEK

I thought linux was supposed to be easy to use, just work, and get out of my way? Is there a single distro that actually does this or is it just something people who have already invested thousands of hours getting stockholmed say?

>>105670151
>but if it's 3-5 years ago
Isnt Debian updated around once a year? What I saw online was not outright outdated, just not cutting edge. I saw no discussion about stuff not running because how old Debian is.

>>105670701
My go-to easy distro is Ubuntu. I think it's good for beginners. There's lots of info on the internet about fixing things in Ubuntu.
>gnome slop
Okay then just install a different DE. Cinnamon, KDE Plasma, whatever you want.
>the arch wiki is good by foss standards, that is to say not very good, also command line
The Arch Wiki is really excellent. It's helped me solve many problems. As for the command line - it's pretty easy to use.
>I thought linux was supposed to be easy to use
It is, as long as your IQ is above 50.

>>105670701
>Is there a single distro that actually does this
Bazzite

>>105670701
>arch
Manjaro KDE or EndeavourOS may be for you.

>>105670790
>Manjaro
Just stop.

>>105670856
What is wrong with Manjaro?

Why are there STILL no browsers that aren't bloated but support javascript?

>>105670883
many modern websites are built to basically only work on the latest versions of chrome, and to a slightly lesser extent firefox
most other "browsers" are just reskins of chrome or firefox, so they aren't going to be any leaner
the closest thing i know of to a browser which supports most websites but isn't just a skin or soft fork of those is palemoon. while it too is a fork of firefox, it hard forked a long time ago so is pretty much its own thing now. i use it myself but i don't use any of the worst-offending websites
it's also important to point out that how much memory a browser uses depends greatly on the websites as well. a heavy website will be heavy on any browser as it's the website itself which is using those resources. it'd be like installing a super minimal linux, then running a modern game and wondering why it's still using several gigs of ram.

>>105670880
NTA but Manjaro as a project doesn't make any sense to me. If you want Arch with a pretty installer, pick Endeavour.
>>105669604
Don't Mint provide a "Mint Debian edition"?

I absolutely love how Arch filters brainlets that can't read and follow instructions. It's like a litmus test for computer literacy.

>>105670946
Manjaro and Endeavour are pretty much the same except Endeavour gets you the latest packages sooner. Which isn't necessarily a good thing.

>>105670944
Don't care, node.js is few megabytes, parsing css is an evening project, we had GUI's for over 50 years and I'm tired of hearing same old cope.

>>105670966
Manjaro is a fork, Endeavour isn't. And forking something like Arch doesn't make sense.
>>105670953
Absolutely the hardest part of such manual installations are hardware (booting) related and everyone has a different setup.
When you learn to manually load OS kernels it's arr same.

>>105670966
No, Edeavour uses upstream Arch repos, it's Arch with some extras. Majaro tries to be its own thing.

>>105670946
So what? Mint is still a downstream distro, even if it takes its upstream from Debian instead of the usual Ubuntu.

>>105670880
Literally nothing. People are just mad it makes using Arch easy and accessible almost like SteamOS.

>>105670978
blame webdevs for making shit websites. they've been getting away with it while people keep blaming the browsers

>>105671038
>Mint is still a downstream distro, even if it takes its upstream from Debian instead of the usual Ubuntu.
And every single distro is a downstream OS compared to just pulling all the software from github and building the OS yourself.

>>105671042
Yeah I'm sure it's the website devs fault that your browser sucks, rajesh.

>>105671018
>And forking something like Arch doesn't make sense.
Why should an end user wanting a good operating system give a shit?

>>105671064
Why would the end user pick an Arch fork to begin with?
>>105671038
>Mint
>downstream
Didn't Mint use Ubuntu/Debian repositories directly?

>>105671064
because he wants a good operating system

>>105670978
>>105671042
here's a comparison clip i made last year to demonstrate this. youtube itself vs. youtube-local, same browser, same hardware

>>105671081
I am not sure if they simply copy the contents or just add their own packages. I am not well versed enough with Mint.

>>105671090
>muh youtube
I can't post on 4chan without using bloat trash browser.

>>105671090
>first hit is Masagin

nice one. I love the music for that demo.

>>105671059
>wtf photoshop is using 3G of ram! fix your OS!
that's you. that's how dumb you sound.

>>105671103
i'm posting from palemoon on the laptop from that video right now lol

>>105671117
>>wtf photoshop is using 3G of ram! fix your OS!
Yes, image dimensions don't affect this at all, glad you figured it out, strawmanning nigger.

>>105671090
>pale moon
Self-inflicted. PM is based on the old Firefox core, it performs like dogshit in general.

>>105671117
Malepoon is bloated and doesn't handle javascript.

I can't believe palemoon is anyhting but horribly maintained and full of security flaws.

>>105671112
same

>>105671125
i hope you're being sarcastic, otherwise i don't think you understand what the problem is here

>>105671146
>youtube runs like shit because of palemoon
explain youtube-local running so much better then
i'm not responding to any more asinine posts that completely miss both my and their own points

>>105671165
>i hope you're being sarcastic
8k rectangle needs 256MiB RAM at most, explain the usecase for wasting 3GB.

>>105671169
that is indeed my point.

>>105671081
>Why would the end user pick an Arch fork to begin with?
Because most people don't want outdated systems designed for servers instead of desktops, like Debian/Ubuntu.

>>105671181
Your point is that you are too retarded to make one? Wow.
Next you'll tell me that HTML controls how memory is allocated.

Can you guys help me out?

I'm transitioning from Windows 10 to Linux (EndeavourOS)

I want to install this on my SSD that already has Windows 10 on it. But I want to maintain all the games and software on it. I also want to install Linux in such a way that the OS and "Data" has its own partitions.

Is this even possible? If it has to be a completely fresh install and I lose all my data I'd rather go towards Windows 10 LTSC for this gaming machine.

>>105671201
You buy a new disk and put your games on it.

>>105671221
Really? So it's just not possible to maintain my fuckhuge library of games if I go to Linux without buying an entirely new dedicated drive for it?

>>105671184
Sure. But how is that a selling point for Manjaro?
>>105671201
>I also want to install Linux in such a way that the OS and "Data" has its own partitions.
By "data" you mean your home directory? Yes, you can totally do that. My advice is to create a sort of 'extra partition', format it to whatever filesystem of your relevance and mount it under /mnt/whatever. Then host your $HOME at /mnt/whatever/anon.

>>105671201
If you want to save your steam library from having to download it again, it's pointless as steam doesn't like your games to be on ntfs.
Otherwise, it's possible but such a pain in the ass I am not guiding a new soul down this path.
Your better option is to copy them over to a new disk.

>>105671235
I'd love to see you maintain your library once that disk fails, retard.

>>105671235
If you care about them so much, why don't you already have 2+ disks for that?

>>105666064
Have you tried disabling anti-aliasing? I know there's a way to set it a fonts.conf file somewhere, because I did that ages ago on some of my systems.

>>105671244
>Steam
Bro I pirated everything. I believe in free software (beer, not freedom)

>>105671244
>>105671253
>>105671263
Is it at the very least possible? If it is possible I believe I can just make some LLM handhold me through the hard parts. I don't mind if I have to spend a weekend tinkering with stuff until it works. It's just that I don't want to buy terrabytes of drives or lose my data, most of which is pretty rare and hard to pirate again.

>>105671279
It's trivial, now you have one last reply to explain why you have no backup disks before I write off your drivel as inane bait.

>>105671279
>most of which is pretty rare and hard to pirate again.
If you have no backup the data isn't that important
>Is it at the very least possible?
I already told you it's possible.

>>105671201
>>105671201
>>105671279
Yes, it's possible 100%. But, if your games are on an NTFS drive (which they are if you're on Windows) then you won't really be able to play them from Linux anyways unless you transfer them onto your Linux partition which uses btrfs or ext4 instead of ntfs. So, if playing those games on Linux is your intention, you should just back up the whole drive onto an external HDD, then do a full clean install and just place the games back onto your PC.

>>105671286
>>105671293
you can take out the f from /fglt/ this place isn't friendly at all.

I just one one SSD, that's it and there will be no more as I will not spend more money on this gaming machine. I'm moving away from windows 10 because the service will end. And I believe Linux will have better support for games going forwards rather than LTSC while most new games will drop it.

I refuse to install Windows 11 because even installing Windows 10 over Windows 7 felt like a huge humiliation ritual. I've seen windows 11 on people's laptop and it feels like a dystopian troll OS straight from a schizophrenic /pol/ shitpost circa 2010.

>>105671191
look, i've no doubt that browsers can be made more efficient. but are you really going to say many popular websites today aren't embarrassingly inefficient as well?

pic related, palemoon by itself, with youtube-dl playing a video and youtube playing a video (same video, same format)

>>105671314
s/youtube-dl/youtube-local/

>>105671314
>woav, video uses a lot of memory
fuck off faggot

>>105671313
So your games are worth less than $50, just run fdisk directly on your SSD.

>>105671313
>you can take out the f from /fglt/ this place isn't friendly at all.
You arrived just in time when there's a few autistic people here. Also, this place doesn't use accounts or nicknames and there's no moderation for lack of politeness. People will just be mask off and call you a dumb nigger for trivial shit.

What you're trying to do is simple. You just have to create a partition where you want to store all the data you don't want to lose. Then you'd do a clean install of Linux into the rest of your SSD storage space.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disk_partitioning

I recommend watching a few videos and reading some documentation just in case because it's easy to just destroy all your data when you're installing an OS or partitioning a disk if you click something wrong.
While the anon who's calling you out on not having a separate drive for backups is rude/non-friendly, he's right. If your data is so important, it should be backed up on at least 1 other drive. It's a lesson you should learn now, before you actually lose all your data and cry about not having backups.

It's not about the money. It's that my mobo only has 1 m2 port which is already populated by my SSD I would have to upgrade my motherboard to mount more drives.

Is it possible for me to for example have 10% free on my SSD, install Linux on ext4 on it, then drag and drop games from the windows partition into the ext4 part, then delete those games from the windows partition, shrink the windows partition, slowly turning the drive more and more into ext4 until it is eventually fully converted?

>>105671311
Thank you for your helpful post, this made it more clear to me. and made me write out the thing above.

>>105671377
>Claiming you have very important data but having no backups is "trivial shit".

>>105671379
>my mobo only has 1 m2 port
What destitute board is this?

>>105671377
>While the anon who's calling you out on not having a separate drive for backups is rude/non-friendly, he's right.
No, it's the opposite. We are very friendly in telling him he needs a backup before he loses all his data when his drive dies.

>>105671387
One where his mobo also has 0 USB ports.

>>105671241
>But how is that a selling point for Manjaro?
As an end user I want a good operating system and Manjaro provides; whether it adheres to some Arch white paper is simply not important to me.

So just to make sure. I can run games by simply just copying them from NTFS to ext4 and then running them through something like Proton, right?

No changes to the files needed or something?

>>105671531
You can run games on an NTFS partition. I don't know what the other anon is on about

>>105671542
Steam has reported issues with trying to run games from ntfs. (Though I don't care about ntfs so they might have fixed it without me noticing)

>>105671562
99.997% of steam users run games from NTFS, in short, meds, schizo.

>>105671569
It's obviously about doing that on linux with steamplay.

So what you guys are saying is that I can just run them from NTFS and the only thing I need to do is create a root partition for the OS itself and then I can keep all of my game data and play it?

So I don't even need to do anything at all?

Why the fuck were people talking about switching data between drives then? Man this thread is toxic and hostile as fuck. I hope you guys realize this is a massive opportunity to get a mass amount of windows 10 gamers onto linux right, and you're kinda floundering it by being hostile gatekeepers like this.

>>105671599
It's easy enough to just create a new Steam library folder on the ext4 drive and just copy the game files from the NTFS partition and put them in the new drive and let Steam discover the files when you "install" them.

>>105671599
this is my first response to this chain

>So what you guys are saying is that I can just run them from NTFS and the only thing I need to do is create a root partition for the OS itself and then I can keep all of my game data and play it?
only someone with (recent?) experience running many games from ntfs directly can answer that. can't be many people
>Why the fuck were people talking about switching data between drives then?
because that would be the safer option that anyone who plays games from a linux native fs can attest to. i too have seen accounts of issues running games from ntfs, they may be out of date, i don't know. i haven't used ntfs in man years. the thing about long time linux users who'd know is that they are less likely to use ntfs at all
>I hope you guys realize this is a massive opportunity to get a mass amount of windows 10 gamers onto linux right, and you're kinda floundering it
you should know that we're not all evangelists
i for one am not going to tell someone linux will suit them when i just don't know

>>105671379
>Is it possible for me to for example have 10% free on my SSD, install Linux on ext4 on it, then drag and drop games from the windows partition into the ext4 part, then delete those games from the windows partition, shrink the windows partition, slowly turning the drive more and more into ext4 until it is eventually fully converted?
Technically yes, but you'll probably have to live boot an OS from a USB to do this. I'm not sure if ext4 can be expanded while a Linux OS is running from it.

>>105671531
Yes.

>>105671387
A lot of budget mobos only have 1 m2 port.

>>105671542
No, you really can't in a lot of cases.
I literally had a friend trying to do this a few weeks ago and every game would instantly close and fail to run. But when he formatted his second drive from ntfs to btrfs everything just worked fine.

>>105671569
They're not running it using Steam Play (Proton).

>>105671599
You'll probably have to move the games to an ext4 or btrfs partition. But the only way to know for sure is clearly to try and run them from an ntfs partition, then only transfer shit if games keep crashing or fail to open.
These people clearly aren't even playing vidya and have no idea what they're talking about. I've seen a fuckton of people have issues running games off an ntfs partition. Be it using Steam or using Lutris/Bottles

>>105671646
Bro, he doesn't even use steam

Is CPU frequency govener, something manged by BIOS or OS?
I have thinkcenter M910q, and the i5-T6500T can only turbo to 2.7 Ghz and not 3.1 Ghz.
I'm running endeavor, so I'm not sure if I'm missing a package, or I've missed something in the BIOS.

>>105663867 (OP)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSS

>>105671685
the governor is kernel level, but it needs hardware support (and potentially you can disable shit in bios as well)

>>105671685
https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/cpu-freq/pcc-cpufreq.txt

>>105671379
>Is it possible for me to for example have 10% free on my SSD, install Linux on ext4 on it, then drag and drop games from the windows partition into the ext4 part, then delete those games from the windows partition, shrink the windows partition, slowly turning the drive more and more into ext4 until it is eventually fully converted?
i have done that before. it's slow and honestly a bit risky, but that is an option
there's actually a tool to convert ntfs directly to btrfs in one shot as well. either way though i'm not sure i'd recommend it to a new user doing it on the only copy of their main/only drive. the cost of a mistake is too great
ideally if you want to convert over completely is just find yourself something to make a backup of your drive, back it all up, then format/install linux to your ssd and restore your data from the backup. it's a good idea to do this anyway because you're gaining a backup, which you should have anyway

>>105671708
I see, so BIOS/hardware set the lower/upper limit, and the kernel uses what it has?
This is what cpupower show
analyzing CPU 0:
driver: intel_pstate
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 0
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 0
energy performance preference: balance_performance
hardware limits: 800 MHz - 3.10 GHz
available cpufreq governors: performance powersave
current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 3.10 GHz.
The governor "powersave" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency: 2.70 GHz (asserted by call to kernel)
boost state support:
Supported: yes
Active: yes
>>105671796
I understood nothing of that.

>>105671863
Did you actually put it in full performance state?
echo performance | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

I lost track of who is replying who ITT. I will just say that I had the same use case as the other anon. I created a partition, installed Linux on it, and to this day I still play pirated games on an NTFS drive either via steam (fuck proprietary software) or via lutris (fuck yeah free software) without a single fucking issue. It literally just works out of the box

>>105671599
You're exactly right about everything: from partitions to the thread itself. The biggest obstacle to the advancement of Linux is contrarian Linux faggotry wherein dipshits think they are leet hackers contributing to "the scene", not because they have provided even a single fucking commit, but because they believe using Linux in intentionally unproductive ways makes them superior to Windows users. These are the same sort of people who pretend Wayland works. These are the same sort of people who tell you GNOME is the only legitimate GUI when it doesn't even let you put files on your fucking desktop, and then blame YOU for wanting something that's actually useful. These are the same sort people who don't direct you towards the solutions that just work, but instead direct you towards purposefully esoteric timewasting because they think absolute dog shit is virtuous as long as it's not how Windows does it. I'm surprised nobody bitched at you for the choice of EndeavourOS when "HURRR ARCHINSTALL EXISTS".

what is the best PDF viewer? adobe acrobat is not available on loonix
please don't be tech illiterate and suggest anything using poppler, the formatting breaks

>>105671599
Read this: >>105671959

>>105671863
pretty much, and these days, there is not much point in trying to intervene with it. Just let it do its thing. If it doesn't scale up or down with/without load, then something is up.

>>105671599
You're exactly right about everything: from partitions to the thread itself. The biggest obstacle to the advancement of Linux is contrarian Linux faggotry wherein dipshits think they are leet hackers contributing to "the scene", not because they have provided even a single fucking commit, but because they believe using Linux in intentionally unproductive ways makes them superior to Windows users. These are the same sort of people who pretend Wayland works. These are the same sort of people who tell you GNOME is the only legitimate GUI when it doesn't even let you put files on your fucking desktop, and then blame YOU for wanting something that's actually useful. These are the same sort people who don't direct you towards the solutions that just work, but instead direct you towards purposefully esoteric timewasting because they think absolute dog shit is virtuous as long as it's not how Windows does it. In 2025 Linux legitimately just fucking works, yet the Linux community behaves like it doesn't and gives advice that actively makes Linux not work. I'm surprised nobody bitched at you for the choice of EndeavourOS when "HURRR ARCHINSTALL EXISTS".

>>105671863
Your CPU base clock is 2.5GHz and 3.1GHz is the turbo speed which is opportunistic. It's OS agnostic.
Either your CPU has a fused clockspeed limit that goes down with active CPU threads or it's cooking itself but I don't see how the latter would ever happen because it's a very low power CPU.
The governor has no say about this. It's all done internally by the CPU.

>>105671978
Your web browser.

>>105672015
I have a lot of coursework books and I want the progress tracked as I go through them while taking notes in a real notebook.
I'm thinking of just using a browser like you say and keeping physical bookmarks in my notebook.
What about muPDF?

>>105672047
Firefox lets you add highlights, text, images, etc. to PDF files. So you can definitely use it for studying.

>>105671896
analyzing CPU 1:
driver: intel_pstate
CPUs which run at the same hardware frequency: 1
CPUs which need to have their frequency coordinated by software: 1
energy performance preference: performance
hardware limits: 800 MHz - 3.10 GHz
available cpufreq governors: performance powersave
current policy: frequency should be within 800 MHz and 3.10 GHz.
The governor "performance" may decide which speed to use
within this range.
current CPU frequency: 3.07 GHz (asserted by call to kernel)
boost state support:
Supported: yes
Active: yes
That did change something, now I can actually reach 3.1 Ghz and encoding av1 improved from 8 fps to 18 fps.
Why didn't cpupower freqency-set worked then?
And do I only have these
> available cpufreq governors: performance powersave
My other machine have (conservative ondemand userspace powersave performance schedutil)
Also is this
>echo performance | tee /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor
permenante?
>>105671982
It does scale up and down, just not the full 3.1
I'm intrested because it did make a difference with encoding.
>>105672010
No, It's not thermal throttling, even with cpu stressing I couldn't reach 3.1 gHz.
But now after applying this >>105671896 I can reach 3.1 gHz.
So it was something on my end.
Heck even the GPU accelerated tasks perform better now.

>>105671314
>pale moon instead of firefox
>youtube-dl instead of yt-dlp

>>105672100
It's not permanent. Either use your system init start a service that runs that exact command, or compile Linux with performance governor as the default.

>>105671325
>>105672137
somehow you both messed up understanding my post in different ways
is it really that complicated?

>>105672169
Video is an outlier, rendering text doesn't need terabytes of RAM.

>>105672183
it's beside the point. they're both playing the same video, so their difference is not because of the video

>>105670701
You're in a world of pain if you're going to use Nvidia on Linux.

>>105671531
NTFS on Linux should only be used as a last resort and for file transfer only.

>>105672209
It is. mpv uses way less RAM, because I can configure it not to download entire video into RAM, and it's not a shitty trannyware that browsers are.

>>105672223
>You're in a world of pain if you're going to use Nvidia on Linux.
Don't use Gayland. Don't use open source drivers. What's the issue?

>>105672225
i do in nearly all cases play youtube video in mpv, but it's again /beside the point/. the fact it's playing a video has no bearing on that demonstration

>>105672240
X getting more deprecated every day. Official drivers losing support, only a small slice of Nvidia GPUs are compatible with current kernels. Missing out on all the Mesa stuff.

>>105672240
None, nvidia just werks on Gentoo.
I tardwrangled one guy I know to move directly on Gentoo. He now plays vidya using wine without any retarded wrapper bullshit and his biggest problem is regional blocks caused by /pol/faggots and not nvidia.

>>105672167
Thanks.
Is there any real harm in keeping it on "performance" compared to "powersave" all the time?

>>105672261
>X getting more deprecated every day
And yet it works. Unlike Wayland.

>>105672254
The fact mpv doesn't consume gigabytes is proof that browser is the problem, fuck off you disingenuous subhuman.
>>105672268
No, all good CPUs scale down to base even with performance governor when you aren't using them, the only downside is power consumption.

>>105672240
My nvidia card works better on wayland

>>105672270
If you have no problems, how can we sell you solutions???

>>105672277
>The fact mpv doesn't consume gigabytes is proof that browser is the problem, fuck off you disingenuous subhuman.
you're acting incredibly dense
palemoon by itself was using 120M of ram
youtube-local playing a video was using 173M ram total, or 53M more than without that tab open
youtube(.com) playing the same video was using 512M of ram total, or 392M more than without that tab open
so, youtube was using 339M more ram that youtube-local to do the same task. the fact the task was video has ABSOLUTELY NO BEARING ON THE EXPERIMENT

>>105672268
someone hit that bitch with a bus

>>105672268
Powersave might disable turbo iirc, which helps with keeping the battery alive for longer. Test it to be sure.

>>105669509
Cinnamon is made by the Mint team, and it would be the latest version if you're using Mint. The one on Debian is outdated like any of it's packages, but still serviceable. I jumped onto Mint around when 10 was starting, and now I'm on Debian. Gonna come back onto Mint and try LMDE, but I'm waiting for Trixie to go stable and for 7 to release shortly. Looking like late July, methinks.

>>105672100
Powersave uses minfrequency but governors offer hints to the CPU. The CPU does whatever it wants so it entered P0 but didn't boost all the way due to the governor hint, probably.

>>105671314
>are you really going to say many popular websites today aren't embarrassingly inefficient as well?
In 99% of cases it's because of these things:
>1. Ads and tracking scripts
Use uBlock Origin and many sites will suddenly load 30% faster and won't jitter for the first 20 seconds of use.
>2. RESTful APIs
Most modern websites are making separate API calls for every little chunk of the interface, often doing it periodically. 20 years ago you'd just use static HTML and only fetch something from 1 API endpoint when the user interacts with something. Nowadays you're probably making 20 api calls just to render a website, even if it does use SSR or SSG.
>3. Media files
This is primarily related to images. They are much larger nowadays than they used to be.
>4. Overcomplicating components
Many websites are creating custom JS components. There's nothing inherently wrong with custom components, but most projects which take over a year to develop end up filling these components with technical debt, pointless code or inefficient code. If an element/component is repeated dozens of times on a web page it quickly stacks up.
>5. Overcomplicating the dev process
Websites which behave as apps (YouTube) often end up having a bunch of code which only exists for the testing process or feature deployment process to be easier. So, a lot of times a web component will just emit events for the sake of it being picked up by a test suite, or it will include code behind an "if" statement which checks if some feature switch is enabled.
>6. Virtual DOM
A lot of websites are build with frameworks which use virtual DOM instead of just compiling to raw HTML/JS/CSS.

>>105672312
>palemoon by itself was using 120M of ram
No, that's just the main process and browsers spawn hundreds of those, at least learn to read before you make statements like that.

>>105672345
>>6
Explain why Virtual DOM needs 8GB of RAM to render text when I can do that with 8MB of RAM using OpenGL.

>>105671314
unironically who gives a shit just buy more ram
as long as they take little cpu time the ram usage is irrelevant because everything nowadays has a fuckton of ram
even the cheapest iphone has 8gb and the chink sffpc priced mac mini has 16gb despite apple being one of the most stingy companies when it comes to ram
on desktop you can have 96gb in two dimms

>>105672362
palemoon is a single process browser

>>105672369
>why Virtual DOM needs 8GB of RAM to render text
It doesn't. But it does use 2x-5x more memory compared to just using the DOM. Which is why most common sense web frameworks are abandoning the VDOM or at least allowing devs to opt out of it.

>>105672335
powersave can request p0 state from the cpu and likes to do that for bursty loads
it does not disable turbo but is biased for lower frequency and lower p-states (over time)

>>105672312
>to do the same task
youtube does more than just playing the video, so it's not the same task even if you don't care about the other stuff besides the video.

>>105672386
I wanted to say something about security, but it can't even run hello world level javascript anyway.

>>105672430
well please show me all the other stuff that a youtube video player page is doing that justifies it using 7x more memory than an alternative frontend which also shows the video, recommends, comments, and so on.

>>105672454
the point of using those alternative youtube frontends is to filter out the extra shit.
I'm not gonna do shit defending youtube here.

>>105671991
That's just because archinstall is shit. Just follow the instructions on the damn wiki.

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>their overlay is on EAPI 6
We're on EAPI 8, updoot already.

>>105672493
>the point of using those alternative youtube frontends is to filter out the extra shit.
this one does show everything you might want like the description, watch/like count, recommends, comments, etc.
i use it on this laptop mainly because it loads a LOT faster. see >>105671090
it's not just ram, youtube is also far more cpu heavy, and it's not just because i'm using palemoon. while it's true youtube runs slower on palmoon compared to firefox on a modern machine because it's single threaded, this is on a core2duo laptop, so it's not even missing out on much anyway here, and the browser doesn't matter in this example because i'm using the same browser in both examples

>>105671896
I've been reading the arch wiki about this
And I'm not understanding many of these things.
But the main thing cpupower package should be able to change the current governor, no?
Since it even have a service that apply the required governor at boot.
But then why id didn't change it?
>>105672277
>the only downside is power consumption.
When turboing right?
>>105672315
All women now are ethots at this point
>>105672321
>Powersave might disable turbo iirc, which helps with keeping the battery alive for longer. Test it to be sure.
It's not laptop, just miniPC that's why I have the T version.
And it DID boost to 2.7 gHz, when running ffmpeg
>>105672335
Thanks man.
But I just noticed even with performance, I'm only utilizing the cpu at 75%.
the temps re in the 50 C range too.
Is this normal behavior?

>unironically using pale moon
Stop hurting yourself.

>>105672558
>When turboing right?
Always.

>>105672571
I'd love to. But I'm so done with modern browsers.

>>105672574
How so?
Anyway it doesn't matter to me, since I'm not using it on a laptop or care about power bill.
But shouldn't the power consumption only increase when cpu frequency go up?
Also are those two states the only one available for this CPU?

is there a good pdf editor that allows me to highlight, edit and make notes in pdf's? everything from forms to bootleg books, or can pdf's be locked down such that that isn't possible?

>>105672827
masterpdfeditor (proprietary)

Would audio output sound different on every district?

>>105672856
looks interesting, thanks.

>>105672887
Distro*

>>105672887
It shouldn't, but might depending on freetard behavior wrt available codecs and firmware.

>>105669288 (checked)
progress
https://github.com/Xfennec/progress

is there a file manager that will preview picture formats, webm's, mp4's, etc?

>>105671090
I use youtube-local as well but the slow updates are starting to tire me out since youtube always breaks something

>>105671685
The package you're looking for is called cpupower
theres some other ones as well but i forgot them

>>105672571
You're not really proving much when all modern browsers are equally shit

I want to use a headless pc with a sound server and connect some bluetooth headphones to it and then play music or some radio stream over ssh. If possible i also want to stream the audio from my other pcs to it over the network as well.

Is this possible to do? If so, how?

>>105673023
Pretty sure most of them do. Dolphin does and it comes pre-installed with KDE Plasma (the most relevant DE)

>>105672277
>>105672574
I just checked and you're right.
performance idle the cpu in the 2.5-2.8 gHz, with occasional dips to 0.8 gHz to control thermals, and turbo boost to 3.1 gHz
While powersave keep the CPU idle at 0.8-1 gHz, and turbo boost to 2.8 gHz.
I've looked into the settings, but I couldn't find anything to control the maximum frequency powersave reach when turbo boosting.
>>105673081
Yeah I found that while reading the arch wiki.
It's weird this is not a package that's not installed by default.

>>105673184
women are fucking disgusting. they should be beaten. iran was right.

>>105673092
Funny, because pale meme is the only one that has trouble with youtube.

>>105673201
YouTube is irrelevant in this discussion, browsers are at fault for enabling everything wrong with modern web.
This is same shit as blaming a child who was abused and beaten by "parents", "neighbours", "peers" for saving up enough money to put a bullet into every single one of them before laughing in the face of the judge and saying that he'll kill him next.

>>105673230
Firefox got optimized for the fat web and runs circles around pale meme which hasn't received any serious work. Requirements change, software evolves. Or doesn't and gets left behind.
You're using a barely modernized XP era browser, all your problems are self-inflicted.

>>105673275
firefox can't even reap its child processes properly.
>look at htop
>see a bright red Z
subliminal messaging much?

Well, If anyone was wondering >>105672277
Was into something
While powersave used the lowest power ~ 15 W, it idles at 0.8 Ghz and boosted to 2.8 Ghz
performance on the other hand, used the full 3.1 ghz and occasional dips to 0.8 ghz, to control thermals, and used 55W
Encoding times remained the same for both states.
So what's the difference? is it related to time needed to scale the frequency?
>>105673200
You feel that way because you're taking seriously what god created for fun.

>>105673230
Browsers were pushed into being an OS-independent platform for desktop and mobile applications. They're not technically at fault for most of the web bloat, it's the product managers and incompetent developers.

>>105673301
At some point, HTTP was XML. Some jeet made a typo, his website didn't render properly, what did browsers do? Lets stop parsing strictly and support any piece of shit that looks remotely like a functioning website!

>>105673284
Take your meds.

>>105673291
no, i feel that women should be beaten for being degenerate detritus. they need their rights taken away and treated like property again.
a woman without a black eye is a future OF whore.

>>105673291
>So what's the difference?
Lower latency for short bursty loads on 'performance' since the CPU is already at full speed. It's just a waste of power 99% of the time.

>>105673371
Stop making things up, it depends on hardware and firmware.
In my case, powersave locks CPU at half the max frequency. Performance instead puts idle cpu at half the frequency but allows it to go up to the max.

>>105671311
>if your games are on an NTFS drive (which they are if you're on Windows) then you won't really be able to play them from Linux anyways
Wut? I have tons of games on ntfs and I can play them fine. It's just prefixes that can't be on ntfs because it doesn't support symlinks.

>>105673396
>nooo, wine doesn't work on meme fs, that means nothing works at all
why are tourists like this? Trying to run a game from wine prefix on different disk is like #1 to try.

so with dwm, freshly installed. what do i do now that is interesting? i tried to make it display a clock on the top but nada.

>>105673396
See >>105671654
>I literally had a friend trying to do this a few weeks ago and every game would instantly close and fail to run. But when he formatted his second drive from ntfs to btrfs everything just worked fine.
This was installing games using Steam onto an external ntfs HDD. They just fail to launch.
>inb4 works on my machine
Well, my friend doesn't have your machine.

>>105673408
Wanna try that one again but in english this time?

>>105673414
You use your computer.
Ricing dwm is pointless, because when you're truly using your computer, you will get annoyed by dwm bar wasting space, and hide it using alt + b

>>105673458
Interesting, but I've also done this on two different pcs, and that's with both steam games and pirated ones. They were SSDs though, not HDDs. Maybe that somehow affects it, although I can't imagine how.

>>105673459
>Wanna try that one again but in english this time?
If you're so good at english, why can't you comprehend (hypothetically) incorrect sentences? Get lost, pajeet.

>>105673414
Despite what the redditors from unixporn might lead you to believe, using a twm means that you install it, set the basic config to launch programs at startup if applicable and you're done.

>>105673480
Because your post was so mangled that I genuinely don't know what you were trying to say. I'm not demanding perfect grammar or anything, but if you're gonna post on a primarily english speaking website learn basic english.

PROMPT="%F{blue}%~ %(?..%F{red}%?%f )%f%# "
HELPDIR=/usr/share/zsh/"${ZSH_VERSION}"/help
zstyle ':completion::complete:*' use-cache 1
autoload -U compinit
compinit
# a bunch of aliases here...
reset

Why the hell zsh takes so long to load? Like a whole second before reset runs.

>>105673507
>set the basic config to launch programs at startup if applicable and you're done.
which config is that?

>>105673543
% cat ~/.xinitrc
xdotool key --clearmodifiers Num_Lock &
exec dwm

>>105673552
ty!

>>105673340
OK, what's wrong with pump and dump bitches?
You did get a trad wife at highschool didn't you?
>>105673371
It appear so
>>105673391
Well, what's your CPU/chipset/BIOS settings?
>powersave locks CPU at half the max frequency
My cpu max freq is 3.1 ghz, and powersave locks it at 2.8 ghz despite cpupower reporting it can reach 3.1, and idle at 0.8 ghz
While performance locks it at 3.1 ghz when idle and allow it to dip to 0.8 ghz to control thermals.
And doing CPU-only tasks such as encoding with ffmpeg, gave me the same time to preform on both governors, but with performance using more power at idle.
just like >>105673371 said.

>>105673291
Ayy lmao looking ass

>>105673580
My laptop doesn't have settings for this at all.
>And doing CPU-only tasks such as encoding with ffmpeg, gave me the same time to preform on both governors
Likely that instructions it is using such as AVX, don't run at 3.1Ghz to begin with.

>>105673605
AI filters + lipo
There are no real women anymore.
>>105673611
>My laptop doesn't have settings for this at all.
How is this possible?
Just run
cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/scaling_governor

>>105673611
>Likely that instructions it is using such as AVX, don't run at 3.1Ghz to begin with.
What is this?

>>105673396
>can't be on ntfs because it doesn't support symlinks.
NTFS supports symlinks, hardlinks and way too many junction/reparse point formats. Perhaps you should be saying Wine doesn't support NTFS properly.

>>105673786
If you're going to be this semantic, perhaps you should say "NTFS is a proprietary file system developed by Microsoft, and its documentation has historically been limited. It's not in Microsoft's best interest to open it up for a competitor to use, so random developers have to guess how to implement it without ever having access to Microsoft's documentation or source code."

>>105673884
NTFS is implemented directly in the Linux kernel.

>>105673932
most elephants have four legs

Why is /linux/ extra friendly when rest of 4chin isnt

>>105673786
wine isn't aware of ntfs at all. It's the end user's responsibility to map ntfs onto the Linux vfs properly, and most Windows gamers aren't going to do that.

>>105673977
>fglt is friendly
>>105671313
>fglt is not friendly

well, which one is it?

>>105673201
Have you ever considered that youtube might be the problem?

>>105674082
Have you ever considered that pale moon might be the problem? It's not just youtube. It performs like dogshit in general.

>>105674105
Browser being a problem? That's impossible.

>>105674199
lol

>>105674043
it's not friendly. half of you are functionally retarded. the gaymers need to be roped. anyone asking questions here that can be quickly solved by ai should also be roped. ethot spammers need a rope.

>>105674357
Very unfriendly post.

>>105673331
erm, no, it wasn't

>>105673291
>boosted to 2.8 Ghz
That's the limit of that i5-6500t.
It can only turbo to 2.8 on all cores, and 3.1 on single core.
This board is getting dumber and dumber
>I use arch btw ;

What's the deal with mounting NFS on android? I'm searching around and there's old conflicting information.

>>105675021
It's shit. Why do you think zoomers are using ftp servers?

>>105675030
Should I set up samba on my server?

>Update Plasma to 6.4
>They're switching to wayland as default, requiring an extra package for x11 support
>Tried wayland some time ago, nvidia caused artifacts in most apps
>Give it another try
>Works great
>ffw next day
>Notice eye-straining, subtle graphical glitches
>Research
>Fucking nvidia again
>Switch back to x11
Seriously Nvidia, fuck you. Next card is going to be AMD

>>105675072
Yes. NFS is kernel layer on Linux and Android is retarded about kernel access. Samba runs in userspace as do Android SMB clients.

>>105675202
Roger.

>>105675200
Wayland has been the default for a while now, they've just split x11 into a separate package so it can eventually be sunset.
Also what kind of gliltches are you getting? I'm running a wayland setup on my secondary pc with an nvidia card and I haven't noticed anything like that.

>>105670774
>different DE.
I need wayland support, KDE is bloated and GNOME sucks.
>The Arch Wiki is really excellent.
the arch wiki is good by foss standards, that is to say not very good
>It is, as long as your IQ is above 50.
the fact is you have to be literally retarded to want to spedn your time with a hobby OS over getting real things done, is what im getting so far

After years of running Win10 no problem. The hacked activation key suddently decided to stop working for some reason*
*I don't care to find out.

I'm finally installing Nobara (Nvidia) on my main gaymen PC. Thoughts?
pic unrel

>>105675630
my thoughts are to tell you to stop shitting up the thread with your "thoughts?" faggotry. i hope bad things happen to you.

>>105668506
Archcraft

>>105675772
that's not bery friendly of (you)

>>105671201
/dev/sda1 /boot/EFI
/dev/sda2 Windows
/dev/sda3 /root
/dev/sda4 /home

>>105675630
seems like a good choice for a gamer with your card, good job researching that. never even heard of it myself kek. i only play dota 2 so its not demanding.

>>105675772
chill out youre being weird

KDE 6 laggy on X11 (9070 XT) when I move the mouse (other than the cursor, the screen freezes until I stop). Running glxgears fixes the problem so I assume it's something opengl related. Any idea?

>>105675782
>paid OS

>>105675200
They just hate gayland like everyone else.

back when i was on windows i used a program that made my computer's audio become my 'microphone' input so that i could play sounds on games that had area chat enabled in higher quality instead of just blasting them through the speakers, does something like this exist in linux or how would i go about setting it up?

Can someone tell me why some people are so against Wayland?

Now, I'm no stranger to opposing software on all sorts of various basis. I even understand wanting to oppose superior software for violating various principles.
But if there's 1 thing I can smell from a mile away, it's when the reason for hating something goes beyond just "I don't think it's good software".

So please, don't give me the bullshit """technical""" reason which you tell like to tell people for why you hate wayland. I'm asking for the REAL reason.
And I'm not here to judge. I also oppose various software projects on non-technical grounds. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm just curious what it is. Because 90% of the complaints you can find online are issues that are no longer issues, yet the dislike of wayland seems to persist. The remaining 10% just seems to be memetic hatred.

So what's the deal?

>>105676095
JACK audio can do it I believe. Try it with a frontend like qjackctl or something.

>>105676140
i dont have a technical perspective on it but i feel like a project like that's energy is better suited on just improving the original "bloated and old" technology that it's "improving" rather than re-implementing something new.
it's easy for me to say that as someone who hasn't worked in either of the development environments, but i think it's a better way to do things in general. that way we all win.

>>105676181
That's fair I guess. But having a lot of variety is also one of the things that makes linux great.

But now that you said that I wonder if the problem is caused by a perception that we all have to choose 1 path instead of having both options. That's kind of why I ended up hating systemd (because it seemed more like something being forced on everyone, rather than being organically adopted).
If that's the case with wayland too then I don't know what the solution is. Certain developers seem to be able to drive the momentum of things. And they get big distros to adopt their stuff and then it seems everyone else just has to follow suit eventually.

tfw inputting sudo dnf swap ffmpeg-free ffmpeg --allowerasing for the fourth install in a row

>>105676299
>But having a lot of variety is also one of the things that makes linux great.
this is ignoring the fact that wayland advocates are hellbent on "deprecating" x11

>>105676181
>>105676439
The people making Wayland are the old Xorg devs. The migration stalled for over a decade waiting for things to become ready. Wayland was horribly janky in 2015. Now things are becoming ready and so the migration is accelerating.

Non shitpost I swear - Is iCloud the best email provider? Aliases. Surprising lack of bloat features. As private as email can ever be assumed to be due to it being inherently insecure. At the very least it is the least bad of the "professional souning" ones right? Like if I have the option of setting one up on my Mac and using it only on Linux 99% of the time is there any reason not to?

>>105676643
Apple Mail does indeed seem to have many fans in the privacy sphere

Any 101 guides on sound clarity in linux?

>>105676643
Apple Mail is an OK option but I want a custom domain so I went with Migadu. It's pretty much Email for Spergs: standard protocols, full control of domain, aliases, addresses, etc., setup instructions for DNS servers and mail clients, dorky but competent admin web panel.

>>105676848
1. Make sure your CPU usage isn't starving your sound server daemon (Pipewire or PulseAudio)
2. Ensure everything is plugged in correctly and Sound Open Firmware is installed (on distros like Ubuntu and Fedora it is by default)
3. find your exact soundcard model (not like "HD Audio") and search for known driver bugs

>>105676643
The "Advanced Data Protection" feature that comes with iCloud+ is considered pretty great for a closed source product.

what's the difference between dkms and just jamming modules into the kernel as it's loaded or at runtime?

>>105676996
dkms should auto-rebuild modules when the kernel is updated.

>>105677105
what's the benefit? builds them directly into the kernel?

>>105677120
kernel modules must be built against the kernel headers of the same version, it's not like windows where you can run 15 year old drivers

>>105677139
how do systems without dkms manage, do they need to pull newly compiled modules with every kernel update? if that's the case then all you're doing is building them locally?

>>105677153
distros usually take care of it, if they don't it's up to you

>>105675810
>EFI
*efi, in lower case.
>/boot
Or just /efi
>/root
*/, not literal /root
>>105677153
>>105676996
Don't get it. You talking about custom kernels here?

>>105675599
>KDE is bloated
KDE runs swimmingly on my laptop that has 4GB of RAM, 0GB of VRAM (yep) and Intel HD Graphics. How the hell is KDE bloated?

Is exFAT my only option if I want to use my drive across macOS, Linux, and Windows?

MATE DE is totally still good. I went from XFCE for years -> KDE for ~9 months now on MATE.

Also play with IceWM, i3, Cinnamon and used LXQt several times. Think I'm going to work on MATE for a while.

>>105677811
ok boomer

>>105677565
>How the hell is KDE bloated?
People who havent used KDE in 5 yrs love to have strong opinions about it. Or maybe they used it for 3 days in the past 5 years.

I also used KDE on a 4GB laptop.

>>105677739
>mac
Found your problem.

>>105677188
i dont think you're replyng to who you think you're replying to

>>105677739
Since you're obviously not tribooting you should consider Syncthing between your Mac and your PC(s). If all you need is Linux+Windows on a Windows PC you control the ReactOS guys made a pretty neat WinBTRFS driver you can install on Windows.

>>105677120
>he doesnt know

>>105676643
>Mac
Found your problem.

>>105677816
Imagine only being able to open 3 tabs before kernel panic.

>>105676848
>sound clarity
>in linux

>>105676507
>Now things are becoming ready
They really aren't.

>>105677887
Yeah they are. We're like 98% there, and most of the rest is WINE finishing their native backend.

>>105677900
>98% there
Then it's nowhere near ready.

>>105677879
Works on my machine.

>>105677904
ok retard

>>105676643
>>105676820
>>105676943
Every breath you take
www.inverse.com/article/16929-apple-watch-will-now-remind-ou-to-breathe
Every move you make
www.stopspying.org/latest-news/2021/10/1/stop-condemns-apple-for-tracking-iphone-location-when-turned-off
Every bond you break
acecilia.medium.com/apple-is-sending-a-request-to-their-servers-for-every-piece-of-software-you-run-on-your-mac-b0bb509eee65
Every step you take
www.komando.com/security-privacy/secret-map-tracking-apple/465598
I'll be watching you
www.thehackernews.com/2017/10/iphone-camera-spying.html

Every single day
https://sneak.berlin/20201112/your-computer-isnt-yours
Every word you say
www.foxbusiness.com/technology/apples-siri-is-eavesdropping-on-your-conversations-putting-users-at-risk
Every game you play
techstory.in/apple-slammed-by-epic-games-chief-for-spyware-tools
Every night you stay
gizmodo.com/apple-iphone-ipad-privacy-problems-data-gathering
I'll be watching you
www.malwarebytes.com/blog/news/2022/11/apple-sued-for-pervasive-and-unlawful-data-tracking

Oh, cant you see
You belong to me
truthout.org/articles/apple-employee-blows-whistle-on-illegal-spying-and-toxic-working-conditions
How my poor heart aches
With every step you take
nakedsecurity.sophos.com/2018/08/13/siri-is-listening-to-you-but-shes-not-spying-says-apple
Every move you make
https://sneak.berlin/20230115/macos-scans-your-local-files-now
Every vow you break
appleinsider.com/articles/16/09/29/apple-acknowledges-tracking-imessage-metadata-and-sharing-it-with-law-enforcement
Evry smile you fake
abc4.com/news/tech-social-media/yes-your-iphone-is-taking-invisible-pictures-of-you
Every claim you stake
wonderfulengineering.com/u-s-apple-store-employees-are-working-to-unionize-and-theyre-using-android-phones-to-keep-apple-from-spying-on-them
I'll be watching you
archive.is/2024.10.10-000653/https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2024/10/09/apple-sells-privacy-to-consumers-but-its-quietly-helping-police-use-iphones-for-surveillance

>>105677929
>cant cope
>deflects
I accept your concession.

New thread:
>>105677909

New to Linux, installed cachyos yesterday. I wanna use a program called Hayase (essentially a torrent client and media player combined) and I'm having trouble trying to get it to work with the ufw firewall. Is there no way to just allow an application full access in ufw? Seems like the only thing I can do is allow specific ports. Hayase being a torrent client (I assume) uses as many ports as it can. I did try setting Default Incoming Policy to Allow (from Ignore) and the program did work properly so I know it's a firewall problem.

>>105677872
I dont think you even use Linux, at all.

>>105675899
They stopped testing X11 on KDE because X11 is abandonware.

>>105676140
Because one big corpo (RedHat / freedesktop) is pushing it and decided to kill X11 by blocking any further changes to X11. As result the thing that "just worked" (X11) stopped getting any feature updates a decade ago and Wayland got forced into everyone's desktop session.
Most of the wayland hate comes from politics around it.

>>105675899
>>105678676
if you don't want bloated corponiggerware, you use X11

>>105675543
I was on X11 before, so the switch to a wayland session just happened when they killed off default x11 support. It's just a constant, barely noticable fluctuation in brightness. It runs over the screen like on a CRT. As said, barely noticable most of the time, but really hurts my eyes and makes most games unplayable. Not a problem on x11. Some cards work better than others, so maybe you got lucky. I'm running a 1660 ti