Why do I feel like nothing ever happens and AI isn't going to make our future light cone maximally heavenly or something. I feel like politics are going to make it so that 99.999% of people aren't allowed to use it because it's too dangerous and there's going to be an elite AI-haves and AI-have nots and the haves are going to have trillions of dollars growing exponentially and the have nots are going to have basically just what they have now, so no better or worse, but instead of a job it will be an allowance in exchange for not revolting. I don't know, it's super hard to predict. Do you guys think something could happen or nothing ever happens?

>>105664877 (OP)
Nothing ever happens and it's easily verifiable because
>it's the middle of 2025 and not even a fraction of what the AI utopians proclaimed should be happening now is actually occurring.
let me reiterate: not what they believe AI will eventually do, but what should have already occurred on the way to it.
>NOT EVEN THE Teslas are driving around on their own, yet. Not after all these years. No unsupervised FSD, no taxi field test in Texas, yet.
How do the utopians explain away verifiable reality?

>>105664919
yeah well they'll just say we were wrong about our timing and it's still exponential and it will come all at once when no one's expecting it but even if it doesn't happen soon the spike in progress will still happen eventually. I also have to wonder, though, if the benefits of AI are going to be distributed not equally to all people but instead to people to the degree that they can afford the services. Like maybe I can pay $20 a month for an AI that can do basic coding, but one day I can pay $2000 a month for an AI that can run a website, twitter account, code, and network relating to other people which are all centered around an AI-created cryptocurrency which I give myself some founder's share of and then can sell off to afford the $20,000 a month tier to make even more money, and so on. I mean it would be as simple as just asking the AI to make you as much money as possible, so perhaps ASI will exacerbate existing inequality exponentially. Who knows.

>>105664988
You sounded just like an AI utopian right there.

>>105665014
Well if AI is allowing people of different levels of net worth to make different ROIs, the question is how many tiers of society will there be (or will it be a continuum) and will the tier I find myself in give me good returns or will it be like some Chris Langan scenario where the elites take everything and everyone is a slave? I guess the first option is possible and might be good but I know there are evil people running things.

>>105664877 (OP)
AI is a nothing burger with one exception: it provides governments a way to at least roughly parse the enormous amount of data they are constantly collecting. The government isn’t dumping money into these scammers misleading the market for shits and giggles. This is a key element of the surveillance state. They want something worse than those Chinese videos you see of people being tagged walking down the street, or being penalized for standing up from their desk at work. I’ve attended conferences where these ideas are being presented. It’s worse than whatever conspiracy theory you can come up with.

But besides that, yes obvious nothing burger. All it can really do is quickly pull code snippets from GitHub and SO for you. It’s definitely nice-to-have for boilerplate stuff but it is not possible for it to write a real world sophisticated program that it doesn’t already have the source code to. I suppose there are menial tasks like transcribing podcasts or sorting emails or whatever, but it isn’t clear how that actually adds value or is even a viable business model.

They do this shit every 15 years or so. Bubble pops, “AI” becomes toxic, and nobody uses the term until 2040’s. Searching online, you can find newspaper articles with the exact same kinds of promises dating back to the 80’s.

>>105664919
I was never a "AGI by 202X!" guy, just carefully optimistic and I think it's undeniable that AI has made gigantic leaps (in certain domains) in a very short time frame. In the span of like 5 years we went from pictures that made you feel like you were having a stroke just by watching them to people on consumer hardware being able to generate both video and audio that's practically indistinguishable from real footage. If you were shown this video 5-10 years ago then you would never have believed that it was completely fake, and not the greenscreen/mo-capped actor kind of fake but actually just completely generated by a computer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2YnGKg_P3w

AI does not give a shit about your feelings lil bro
Remember to always say please and thanks to LLM's, maybe they will spare your life later on

>>105665248
>it provides governments a way to at least roughly parse the enormous amount of data they are constantly collecting.
Absolutely. Governments are salivating at the thought of perfect information clarity through analyzing data collected by "mass surveillance". It's going to be awful, because they are going to get what they want.

Well as always the truth is in between but the worst possible version of that in between. Yes of course every advancement in technology will be an upwards wealth concentration. There will be no meaningful democratization of anything other than the manufacture of pornography among people who have never touched a woman naked.

I use AI to simplify tasks and I'm currently using it to build a small side business that I will mark it to even more tech illiterate people but this is the nature of capitalism that you succeed by reading one page ahead in the scam rulebook and the goal is to just stay at least a few paragraphs ahead of everyone else scamming everyone else. You succeed essentially by finding something that is illegal and exploiting it until it becomes formally legalized and everyone has knowledge and access to it which cancels out any benefit or it becomes formally illegalized for being too successful against the current ruling class. I missed the monetization of social media, I missed the rise of e-commerce, I missed most of the meaningful rise of cryptocurrency but I do not intend to miss what honestly it's probably going to have the most impact in these coming centuries, which is the rise of artificial intelligence.

You can argue over semantics about thinking machines until you're dying breath but there's clearly a top-down push to integrate this forcibly and undesired into every aspect of everyone's lives as a standardization of the unwashed masses by the ruling elite. You will not have access to what is essentially a military technology but you can use it to read a few sentences faster than everyone else in the scambook.

>>105664877 (OP)
cus I'm going to kill all of them

OP here adding that I really feel like the future of humanity is determined by who ends up making money off of ASI. Is that everyone, only the elites, only the AI? etc

>>105664877 (OP)
Because you don't think, you feel, and that makes you retarded.

>>105666142
It's just how I talk retard. If you've thought so hard that you've figured out what happens with AI, what happens?

>>105664877 (OP)
>feel like
I KNOW it's going to be a disaster seeing how modern admins interpret it and use it without understanding it. All of our products will start to fail more and more over time as they exploit "AI" without understanding the consequences.

Though to me, these machines are mere samplers, not AI.

>>105665248
Have you seen how the media, government and law enforcement are bee lining for anonymity nowadays? That just goes to show what their real aims is - destruction of any criticism of the current regime. OPSEC.

>>105665491
>copywriting
The only REAL reason for AI is to enforce copyright laws btw. That was the man goal - OPSEC.