Anytime someone posts anything related to AI on Reddit everyone's hating on it calling it slop or whatever. Do people not realize the substantial positive impact it will likely have on their lives and society in the near future?

because machines are evil and should all be destroyed

>>105666928 (OP)
They're smart enough to see the only real application is enslaving people.

>>105666928 (OP)
A smart enough AI would know 1B is ridiculous and that makes the whole situation comical and unserious.

>>105666928 (OP)
Reddit is a place full of envy and insecurity, everyone's already hated on people better than them like artists, good programmers, or richer people

AI just channeled that, now instead of crying about artists tracing it's about AI, instead of crying about programmers doing manual memory management it's about AI, instead of crying about landlords it's about AI and so on

>>105666928 (OP)
>inputting mean text into program is evil
>and deserves to be punished by karma
>but karma doesn't not exist because I tip fedora

>>105666928 (OP)
Same reason we hate it here on 4chan, because it's mostly used by third-world subhumans to produce slop.

>>105667036
All of em?

>>105667074
i meant what i said

>>105667074
Machine makes grug very insecure
Grug's not only one who can lift big rock anymore
Machine evil.

>>105666928 (OP)
Sounds made up

>>105666928 (OP)
most of the western world hates ai, the only people who don’t are ai bros and thirdies
speaking of, why DO thirdies love ai so much

>>105666928 (OP)
90% of reddit are bots, of the remaining 10%, 50% are crazy trannies, so who cares ?

>>105668597
>most of the western world hates ai
No, most of the western world only knows ai as something you can make cute avatar pics with, oh and that 'gibliii anime thing'

The vast majority that actually knows about ai likes or accepts it as the next step in technology, coders are less happy since they realise they are being replaced, so are a LOT of jobs, but most people don't realise it yet.

For example, ALL administrative jobs will disappear, that's going to be a big shake up in the work force. Blue collar jobs will take the longest to replace, since robotics is EXPENSIVE and a lot more difficult than replacing purely digital jobs.

>>105666928 (OP)
>Anytime someone posts anything related to AI on Reddit everyone's hating on it calling it slop or whatever.

There is pretty much 2 dominant factions for Ai online everywhere. One faction want AI to accelerate as much as possible in hopes that it leads to a post abundance society. Another Faction believes AI needs to be stopped as it is gonna destroy human society or good

So there is a constant bickering with anything related to AI between these 2 groups

>>105666928 (OP)
trannies

>>105667074
It's not a very philosophically based viewpoint, but I find that any machine that has a power source outside of humans/animals (i.e. oil, electricity) has been psychologically worse for us in the long term. The Amish were right.

It's lazy and slovenly and gets shoehorned into places it doesn't belong (less :MUH ART D:" and more "this could have been an excel sheet and would have provided more accurate and useful information")

>>105668597
>speaking of, why DO thirdies love ai so much
same reason they love(d) crypto: it's an easy way to scam pig disgust westerners

>>105667036
Butlerian jihad?

>>105668652
I think it's deeply funny when AI bros like yourself go "no dude, 2 more weeks!".

Have LLMs improved a lot over the past 5 years? Sure. Will they ever get to a usable state for human replacement? Extremely unlikely. I can see retarded companies trying to brute force the replacement too early, and poisoning the whole well, though.

At best, they might allow some jobs to have reduced human participation, but when teams get fired and the replacement fucks everything up, there's going to be a lot of backlash against companies using this shit anywhere forward facing, and those are ironically the jobs that are most solvable with LLM slop.

>>105666928 (OP)
>Anytime someone posts anything related to AI on Reddit everyone's hating on it calling it slop or whatever.
idk why dont you go there and ask it instead of being here

>>105666928 (OP)
because it will only work for a while, in 10 years AI will just rehash all the same stuff over and over, ensloppification of the entire humanity

>>105667072
this, AI takes all the white achievements gives it to shitskins in easy form, whites as usual have nothing to gain, while shitskins are all amazed by it as if they magically gained 30 IQ points

>>105668597
because third worlders are low IQ
they only way they can achieve anything is through grifting, scamming, luck, crime, AI is like gift to them to compensate for their monkey brain, not suprised it was created by a fucking jew, anyone that ever supported OpenAI with jew in charge of it should KYS

>compound surnames
i'm starting to notice something bros...

>>105666928 (OP)
reddit is hive mind, that's why if they want to have controversial opinion they first post it here and then screenshot it and post the pic on reddit. This way everyone can agree without being ganged by others for wrongthink since the opinion comes from outside, more specifically 4chan.
Also, fuck AI not because it's useless but because it's controlled by jews and jewish corporations.

>>105669395
>because third worlders are low IQ
might be true but if whites were so smart why do they allow the jew to exterminate their race, not just allow but also cheer for it.

>>105668652
i think there has been a misunderstanding

in my experience "coders" are the most vocal about AI being shit because, for at least most of them, they know how it works instead of perceiving it as magic like most normies do, and also their job takes precision and cognizance that they know LLMs are fundamentally incapable of. any company replacing coders with AI is basically just laying off and giving the AI thing as an excuse, because it does not do much except offer a type of rubberduck and autocomplete for most people. maybe the dumbasses working in frontend web dev can more consistently use it, i don't know.

i'm still a doomer wrt software dev but mainly because it is a very superfluous and unproductive job when it comes to products people actually want. a huge chunk of software dev jobs are powered by speculation and business 2 business stuff, which means it's very sensitive to economic downturns. we've been training so many fucking software devs in the past few years, and we're just about to deal with the end of the biggest debt cycle ever. things look grim. though they do look almost as grim for everyone else

>>105669618
are thirdies obsessed with jews? then again i mainly hear russians complain about them these days

>>105669637
>are thirdies obsessed with jews?
it just gets annoying watching the first world getting destroyed by them while everyone avoids discussing the cause and concentrating only on symptoms.

>>105666928 (OP)
>he has no spirit or God to reveal to him to detriment if AI
ngmi

>>105668597
no soul, no God

>>105666928 (OP)
They fear what they can't understand. Those people are tech illiterates, unlike /g/.

>>105669239
>Will they ever get to a usable state for human replacement?
Yes, it's 100% certain for a huge amount of white collar office tasks, and tons more.

Meanwhile all tech companies are doing mass layoffs...

>>105669762
Yeah, you're braindead. I hope you've got all your money invested in this.

>>105668597
thirdie here. This one guy at my company had tons of knowledge and was a very competent dev. He still is but he's using copilot for most things these days, even things we could fix on his own. He can barely write code now without relying on copilot. Its kind of sad honestly.

>>105666928 (OP)
Because they finally found something that could be more pretentious than they are.

>>105666928 (OP)
Abominable Intelligence is why Three Mile Island came back online. It is why GPUs are so overpriced now. It hopes to replace humans in all the fun jobs while leaving the back-breaking work for mankind, but all it can do right now is burn money and generate garbage. It can go fuck itself.

>>105666928 (OP)
why do you come here instead of just chatting with AI

>>105667036
Start with your computer.

>>105668597
>why DO thirdies love ai so much
They are desperate to have a facsimile of both intelligence and soul, they instinctively know they are incapable of both on a fundamental level so the idea that a piece of technology can undo their primordial subhuman condition is extremely attractive.

>>105666928 (OP)
i dont think about luddites at all. i use ai as an instructor and as an assistant i can dictate to as an executive. if you aren't doing this, i feel sorry for you, but i don't think about you at all.

>>105667074
>mfw wheel and axle is the same as pulley
>mfw incline plane is the same as wedge
>mfw screw is combination of above two
there are only like 2 or 3 actual basic mechanism.

>>105666928 (OP)
>Ruin Google search until AI is good, then ruin AI.
But seriously, capabilities are overhyped and the hype primarily exists to suppress engineer wages.

The larger firms got spooked by how much cultural and political leverage the engineer class had amassed, and started the synchronized push-back in the ~6 months leading up to the initial OpenAI hype cycle in late 2022.

All of their products have gotten substantially shittier, but they're confident that their users don't have any other viable alternatives. What are you going to do, pay for Kagi and use the Fediverse? No, you're going to just deal with double the ads, search that doesn't return what you were looking for, and a web player that hangs ft you hit play too fast and requires a browser refresh to fix it thereby serving you even more ads. Eat the slop you fucking chump.

>>105666928 (OP)
I’d say a big part is how companies are trying to monopolize on it, resulting in huge emissions to train the models without any real application and at worse employing models with negative results and firing tons of people because execs think generative models are more than they are.

>>105666928 (OP)
I dont use reddit, but it's because AI is a shitty tool for people with low standards.
It's also why it's so popular in India.

>>105666928 (OP)
Because AI *IS* slop.

Have you read any of the shit it halluicinates? It's ALWAYS wrong.

Using AI makes you retarded.

Happy to help, when you could've DuckDuckGo'd this.

>>105672253
Thank God it's not just me.
AI either regurgitates what I say, mentions irrelevant generic stuff, or is plain wrong.
I only ever get decent results when I have it make css selectors and then I discover I could do much better or entirely eliminate the need for it.

>>105668597
>why DO thirdies love ai so much
Because they're able to "Vibe Code" (LMAO) their way into programming jobs because managers that don't know how to code (LMAO) hire them thinking they're knowledgeable (they're not) and thus fuck over the product with their "(bad) vibes." See: 10-11, Windows. Products of Vibe Coding. 11 more so than 10.

>Please Sar, let me "dream up" code
>It's utter dogshit, though!
Statements made toward the utterly retarded HR managers.

>>105666928 (OP)
they have been successfully drafted in the war to pull up the ladder and make sure only huge corpos like Universal/Disney can ever use AI tools so they can undercut production costs in a way nobody else can, ensuring nobody will ever be able to compete legally.
this will be accomplished by spreading FUD about made up dangers (le AGI) and poor artists losing work to AI (if they're so bad to lose work to AI now just imagine when it will get actually good) in order to corral people into demanding draconian AI regulations, since we are talking about reddit level IQ people it will be easy to make them believe these regulations will totally only be used to defend the consumer and the artists againts the big corps

>>105673570
another thing that low IQ people are very easy to manipulate with are claims like >>105668597 where you pretend the position you want to push is the majority while in reality the numbers are about 5% pro, 5% against and 90% have never thought about it

>>105666928 (OP)
Because redditors are shitty people who feel obligated to compensate by taking opportunities to signal how morally upright they are any time there's a convenient scapegoat.

1. Because tech bros are obnoxious as hell. First it was about how the blockchain is the future. Now it’s how generative AI is the future. They praise what it could be instead of acknowledging what it will become.
2. Generative AI makes it easy for lazy, scammers, and grifters to achieve what they want.
3. Some people are using it as a crutch. They lack the ability to research and critical thinking, so they have generative AI do it for them instead.

Generative AI is a nice tool. I’ve used it for brain storming ideas, make my resume more ATS compliant, etc.

>>105673613
Normies talk about AI all the time.

>>105666928 (OP)
>muh karma
>karma doesn't actually exist, i know this
Why are redditors like this?

>>105666928 (OP)
Because even redditors are smart enough to realize that AI is dogshit at everything.
AI is good if you're selling "get rich quick using AI!" tutorials to retards or if you're a CEO of one of the AI related companies and you make billions from the bubble.

>>105666928 (OP)
random concatenation of trash
the death of internet

>>105666928 (OP)
Even normie consooooomers know that it’s slop. Techbros literally blew their load early and thought normies would be as excited to generate anime porn as they were. They seriously believed their pedophilia was normal and that everyone would jump in on “it’s just a fake picture” with them.

The only thing i like AI for is music track separation when learning songs.

>>105667074
No, analog machines are fine. Electronics are the problem including the device I am using to post here

>>105666928 (OP)
I am NOT on reddit and I hate AI. It is a HUGE mistake. If you can not see how or why, you are already lost.

>>105667074
mechanical =/= digital
Dumbass.

>>105666928 (OP)
Brainlet normies are everyone

>>105669762
>Meanwhile all tech companies are doing mass layoffs...
Has nothing to do with AI...those started several months prior to the current AI hype cycle, due to the interested rate situation and Section 174 tax code changes that severely punished companies for hiring software developers. The Section 174 changes went into effect in December of 2021.

>>105666928 (OP)
Current AI development is on track to give us a future that is somwhere on a spectrum.

On one end of the spectrum you have AI development being slow and within our lifetime only making the internet unusable and putting massive train on our electric grid for almost 0 benefit. Lot of the medial AI that is saving lives is for the most part very much separated from the everyday Generative AI that for the most part just spams internet with garbage. And even said medical and research AI systems are highly overrated. Alphafold didnt make drug development 2 times faster, and lot of the systems used for diagnosing diseases do well in test environments but sometimes fuck up more then regular doctors in edge cases that were not in the training data.

On the other end of the spectrum you have AGI and perfected robotics automating all jobs, making all people unemployed and left to starve. UBI is a stupid system that will not work long term and the argument of "but who will buy stuff if everyone is unemployed?" is dumb. When people cant buy anything then businesses that sell stuff to people will go bankrupt, but businesses that pivot to selling to AI companies will survive. Field used for growing corn and then selling it to cow farms so people can eat beef will instead sell the corn to ethanol plants so that they can then use it to generate more electricity for the AI. UBI in this equation is just a state mandated socialism where companies are robbed their money so that the same money can then be given back to them for resource exchange, which in terms of market forces is perverted and will eventually lead to extermination of the massive leeching class.

Both scenarios fucking suck and are significant downgrade from what we had before AI, and even middle spectrum scenarios where everyone works some terrible manual labor for third worlder wage and then go home to watch AI generated movies while you wait for robotics to get you extinct is even worse.

>>105673570
If we are talking about just AI generated media here and regulations on generative AI, then only big megacorporations being able to use it for their movies would be net benefit to most people. People who don't want to see AI slop can just not watch Universal/Disney movies, and people who want to watch pretty pictures with no meaning can just consume their Universal/Disney AI slop. I would be much happier if only dumb megacorps were the ones posting AI garbage instead of random third worlders and guys with defunked Crypto mines spamming the internet as part of their hustle to get paid 100 dollars a week from letting their PC run overnight to put further strain on internet infrastructure.

>>105666928 (OP)
Because most people realise that it's fake and gay.

>>105668652
Robotics are expensive only because most current robots are custom build and its cheaper to hire some retard to put box A into place B then to build a whole system for moving boxes from A to B. This is why everyone is so horny about humanoid robots, because they are universal and can be put into every retard position, and when your shitty business goes bankrupt in half a year you can sell the robot. So you will either end up with future where people either work for less then the price of robots, which will become cheaper over time, or everyone loses their jobs.

Also the whole idea that we will have AGI before useful manual labor robots isnt 100% guaranteed. Current AI models are still for the most part completely useless thanks to hallucinations and no short term memory, and we saw this massive jump in performence in generative AI over a span of just few years, so its not impossible that in just one year we could have robots as dexterous as humans because we suddenly figure out how to harvest data well for them or create useful world model.

>>105669623
This
Every company replacing staff with AI is setting itself up for failure. AI has no accountability, so when it hallucinates a massive software bug, the person responsible is the retard who replaced their staff with an AI. That's not sustainable for a business environment.

All of this shit is fucking retarded. So much "research" is based on emulating sci fi bullshit like humanoid robots, or larping that LLMs are going to magically become intelligent. We need to instead focus on integrating existing tech properly. We are making negative progress at the moment chasing this fantasy shit while cannibalizing functioning tech and institutions. It's all retarded Burgerland thinking "if I can imagine it (just like in my scifi books) and try really super duper hard, it will heckin become reality!!!". Actually no. Innovation comes from a solid base of functional society/tech, not a house of cards of rent-seeking fictions.

>>105676280
Again this is massively overestimating AI. Even if the slow drain with 0 benefit assumes that generative AI can continue to create profit forever, it can't. And the argument of "Who will buy stuff if everyone is unemployed?" is valid because those companies that sell stuff to people won't just disappear. Coca Cola funded entire private armies to ensure their business model remain untouched, and AI doesn't drink coke.

>>105676476
You also assume or are ignorant of distillation. Any AI we have now that requires building-sizes servers can be turned into smaller AI that is 95% as good but can run on your gaming GPU at home.

If you want an example of just how fucktarded AI actually is, just go watch Claude play Pokemon for a bit. You'll quickly realize the clueless pillock can't even navigate out of a 2D box without massive amounts of help from a framework guiding it and giving it hints from the game's RAM. This is the thing people are worried will steal their jobs.

And before someone says something like "Well this is right now, in the future this will be even better at any digital task than humans." How do you expect anyone to ever trust this shit when all examples of it having real-world integration results in it being less coordinated than literal toddlers? Nobody is going to trust this with anything important. Anyone who does gets exactly whta is coming to them.

>>105676495
>You also assume or are ignorant of distillation.
Oh cool let's hear it
>Any AI we have now that requires building-sizes servers can be turned into smaller AI that is 95% as good but can run on your gaming GPU at home.
Awesome so we'll have 95% as stupid AI as we have right now running on hardware that nobody can afford to replace people who are required to consume in order for that market to succeed.


You're ignorant of one important fact: The current players in the market aren't just going to 'go away'. There is no laying down or dying for a company like Coca Cola. Lots of retarded AIs being ran on people's GPUs isn't going to make them disappear. It will instead be used as an example of why it'll need to be banned from industrial use, and that will be the end of that .

>>105676495
NTA but how does that change anything? So the AI gets smaller and more people can run it, it's still not going to be any closer to generating infinite profit selling to itself. It can't consume anything but electricity and it needs humans to produce things.

Screencap this thread and wait for 5 years.

>>105666928 (OP)
They're sick of ChatGPT generated slop clogging up comment sections or low effort ugly ass images that people try to pass off as art

I only really despise large language models and generative image/video AI, it seems the only intent of these technologies is to deceive. Things like neural radiance fields or using
reinforcement learning for video game AI is pretty harmless and pretty cool tbqh
>>105674238
This is also nice I get mileage put of Audacity's nyquist plugin for this.

>>105666928 (OP)
these people have no genuine opinions, they just follow along with whatever narrative is loudest

the good ai future is 99% of humanity on ubi and tiny elite ascending into godhood
it fully replaces human labor with capital. The outcome of that is it becomes borderline impossible for someone not already rich or politically connected to go up in social class.
The only way of escaping will be going into politics and scheming your way to the top.

If you are neither of those when full human replacement arrives it's over. I think you need at least $10M for the non-politics way.

At the same time, poor people are happy because the living standards will skyrocket and they can stop working. This explains big acceptance in the third world. People who think of themselves as temporarily embarrassed millionaires hate it because they realize their relative social standing will drop (being on ubi in India and on ubi in america will be the same) with no realistic hope of changing it.

>>105667074
>Dumbass
point out where the post he responded to said digital or mechanical?

>>105667036
FPBP. Total clanker death.

>>105676505
I mean, we knew this was the case since ChatGPT 3.5. We had it play chess and it was just making up moves because it had no internal visual representation of the world, or playing games for that matter.

>>105666928 (OP)
Reddit has been an a.i. bot website for the past 4 years. 16k upvotes, 300 comments, on a dumb picture that is not funny. bots.

It's normal for people to fear what they don't comprehend.
For the average /g/ users, AI is just another tool. But for the NPC normies, it's the end of the world as they know it.

>>105666928 (OP)
People hate change. They form their notion of their dream life based on things that came before them or before they were adults and when their time comes to go out into the world and live their lives, things have changed. All I wanted to do was to get a chemical engineering degree and manage my own small distillery producing ethanol from sugarcane in the countryside and selling it to gas stations and then I would be able to afford to have my own truck and small plane powered by a portion of my own biofuel production (I live in the Brazilian Midwest, 80% of cars here can run on ethanol) but now the big companies are starting to invest in 2nd gen ethanol production with enzymes and also efuels are obviously going to be big but these are all much more complex and expensive processes, not feasible for small producers. Then there's also China now developing cheap sodium batteries which means BEVs will rule the roads and the market for biofuels will significantly shrink, further slashing my hopes of pursuing my dream. My point is, Redditors are probably the kind of people who had a dream, wanted to break into and have sucess in some industry that is now kind of ruined by AI. Maybe something art related where they feel the added productivity makes them feel less useful and erodes their identity and pride in their work.

>>105667551
Seems like you already forgot how Llama4 cheated lmarena rankings via prompt engineering

>>105666928 (OP)
Because it's hype to usefulness Levels are out wack. AI didn't solve any issues people are having only introduced new ones.

>>105666928 (OP)
I think it's mainly anxiety towards job loss. I do get it. Corpos are scum and will 100% axe jobs if they even have an excuse to appease shareholders with it.

>>105677810
tldr sorry not sorry!

>>105666928 (OP)
because most people are seething white timmies

>>105666928 (OP)
AI is class warfare

>>105666928 (OP)
Is prompt writing a skill?
Are prompt writers artists?

>>105674287
A computer is a machine, retard.

Maybe there'd be less hate if 99% of people who use AI didn't use it to create low effort garbage. Youtube is full of AI videos now and they are unwatchably bad.

>>105666928 (OP)
>Do people not realize the substantial positive impact it will likely have on their lives?
Such as?

i saw on youtube some guy used AI to generate a 3 second clip for a joke in one of his videos. the comments were absolutely full of "i can't believe you would do this" and "you are evil for using AI"
i had no idea people felt this strongly about ai generated slop. is everyone retarded, or is it me?

>>105681666
Ai slop isn't worth using, even for 3 seconds. I'm on the comments side.

>>105681682
sorry, it was a funny joke, you're wrong.

>>105676867
>the good ai future is 99% of humanity on ub
who is going to produce the excess to provide ubi?

>>105676505
The gemini version is miles better, just by using better tools. You're coping hard

>>105667055
But it's not 'smart'. The smart part comes from how well you can configure the input to get out the optimal outputs.
It also doesn't have to be 'smart' to get useful outputs.
How you coerce those outputs via inputs is the skill. And that is a human skill.
People seem to miss this point. Or at least very few people seem to understand that there is a power gap opening up.

>>105667059
>Reddit is a place full of envy and insecurity, everyone's already hated on people better than them like artists, good programmers, or richer people
Fair amount that here too though desu
People will rightfully call people out for it and laugh at them though instead of being 'downvoted'
Which makes it all the better.

>>105666928 (OP)
AI seems magical if you're retarded.

>>105666928 (OP)
That's ironic considering reddit is full of bots and paid shills that rely on AI.

>>105666928 (OP)
I blame marketing departments for that. They keep shoving AI into everyone's faces even when it doesn't make sense, people are tired of hearing about is so they start to hate it.

>>105667036
Fpbp
It's also making people dumber and ruining the dating scene. Hypergamy is far worst now that women have access to the Internet.