Thread 105670479

>games 40 years ago
>reuse the same sprites to save 512 bytes of data
>websites today
>embed 12 MB of javascript to change the color of a button
I fucking hate modern technology

give a web developer a processor that is 100 times faster and he'll make a website that is 101x slower.

>>105670498
It's all so tiresome.

>>105670479 (OP)
But without enshittification, how would Intel sell new processors?

>>105670479 (OP)
>website 40 years ago - shows you textual information you were looking for
>website today - shows you textual information you were looking for, but with fancy animations and a shitload of telemetry/trackers/ads/malware
>games 40 years ago - just play a game and have fun
>games today - same mechanics and principles as 40 years ago, but now with microtransactions, frame generation, built-in casino slot-machines, and an endless slop-train
the only software which has actually evolved over time are productivity apps and all kinds of editors

>>105670581
>same mechanics and principles as 40 years ago
This is literally false. More like maybe 15.

>>105670479 (OP)
Used to be that all you needed was jQuery and maybe an image carousel script or something, now every single website is bogged down with some gigantic frontend framework because the entire fucking industry is led by monkeys that just look at what Facebook and Google are doing and copy it without thinking about whether or not it makes sense for their business needs and userbase. A regional residential electricity site doesn't need 5 front-end developers highly specialized in fucking React or Angular, that's absolutely retarded for a website that serves realistically <100k people a month.

I use two online marketplaces every day. Both serve the same exact purpose, they do pretty much exactly the same thing. One of them works perfectly fine on my 14 year old laptop, the other one lags even on my modern PC.

>>105670783
>More like maybe 15.
I'd go for 20 years, GTA San Andreas exists

>>105670581
Blender is the only software I use and appreciate it's development over time.
Literally can't think of any other.

>>105670926
>Blender is the only software I use and appreciate it's development over time.
It's actually amazing how much of the development was sponsored by big companies because they're sick and tired of paying a gorillion dollar subscriptions to Autodesk every year.

>>105670479 (OP)
>BING BING WAHOO did it better m'kay.
Opinion discarded. Still using webshitter framework so I can shit faster (into a toilet btw) and be done for the day. Imagine having to be a cuck in CURRENT_YEAR in order to please ramlet hardware constraints. Buy more RAM.
Captcha: DJAY2

>>105671310
I became a ramchad by accident.
Wanted 32GB but ordered wrong ended up with 1, so I got another for the dual channel benefits.
Not even sure if those are real anymore or it's just a meme I remember from the old days.

>>105670581
>>website today - shows you textual information you were looking for, but with fancy animations and a shitload of telemetry/trackers/ads/malware

>search question on google
>ai response - 'you probably mean xyz' (no i don't)
>click on video category
>all facebook and tiktok with zero relation to question
>go directly to youtube, search, scroll past shorts,
>title of the first proper video is my question
>watch some ads
>pointless introduction and spraff (video is 10:01 for revenue purpose)
>check time bar for most popular segment which is the actual answer people watch the video for
>jump to time code 3 minutes in
>immediately more ads (i have watched about 2 seconds of video so far)
>watch segment
>question is asked but not answered

there is no information whatsoever on the modern web.

>>105671364
All the discussion between real life humans happens behind the closed doors of discord. A ton of the interesting stuff that would have been posted publicly in the 2000s is just hidden in sekrit clubs too.

>>105670581
>website 40 years ago
the world wide web didn't exist until like 25 years ago idiot

>>105671382
>real life humans
>real life
>discord
go outside. now

>>105671439
You added "reddit" to your last google search query.

>>105671505
No I didn't. Keep projecting.
ChatGPT would be way more more useful than reddit, actually.

>>105671505
damn, why is this so relatable ?

>>105670814
True, but the problem is that for every site you have clients wanting to turn the place into a e-shop where you can make accounts and sign up on shit and while you are at it how about allowing you to post comments and may as well have some items for sale. Oh and also the managers kid is bright with tech so give him an account so they can use the WYSWYG editor to update the site. Oh you don't have such an editor? I'm hiring a different programmer then, clearly you are unprofessional.

I mean it doesn't start as one but you get just 1 more request like that every few months until everything is up there.

So in the long run it's simpler on your nerves to just install some dumb ass framework.

>>105671344
I've been on 16GB since 2012. Had only 4GB before that, or maybe even just 2GB, I forgot. RAM prices were super good around the time so I could afford to not just do a small upgrade but get a massively oversized RAM pool.

It's been 13 fucking years and I still don't really feel the need to get more. Yeah, the task manager says I'm idling at 10GB, but I never got any problems, and I can just close the browser and steam and now I only use half as much memory.

I don't use Chrome though, maybe that's why it's not an issue. I do hope I get to put 64GB in my next machine, but prices are not good yet.

>>105670479 (OP)
without a memory mapper, the NES could address 32k of program memory and 8k of sprite data (graphics). super mario bros. is an early game made without a mapper, so those were the limits it was made with
there are far, far larger NES games that came laters once mappers and memory cost came down

>>105671961
Yeah it isn't needed really. I was just trying to be sure with 32, and then had to get another stick for the dual channel because I bought a stick instead of a 32gb kit lmao.

https://blog.google/technology/google-labs/video-image-generation-update-december-2024/

I'll always be reminded of this google site that preloads up a bunch of 4K videos
It's one of the only webpages that makes my gpu fans spin up lmao
the modern internet baby

>>105670479 (OP)
Now take into account the price of these 512 bytes of cartridge memory and 12 MB of data transfer.

So how can one write an optimised webpage with clientside scripts without bloating it? Webassembly?

>>105672805
htmx

>>105672421
what the actual fuck. we need to abolish javascript NOW

>>105672421
Based

>>105670479 (OP)
And think about which one everyone loves and remembers fondly

>>105670553
>asterisks with greentext
>screenshotting your own post
Go back.

>>105672421
>>105672949
>>105673491
max 20% cpu usage on mac m4 mini.
consider using a platform with gpu acceleration, unlike troonix

>>105674292
im on windows

>>105674423
I tested it on chrome. Are you running troonfox perhaps?

>>105673746
>screenshotting your own post
what

>>105670581
>all kinds of editors
i remember when movie maker was included with windows and was so intuitive and functional. i had to download the new one manually, it's a pain in the ass to use and less functional than 20 years ago

>>105674292
>this page makes your GPU shit itself
>heh idiot I’m only on 20% CPU usage maybe stop being poor and get hardware that uses your GPU for stuff like this
Maybe try reading? Your shitbox not having fans doesn’t mean it’s not working

How is it that the entire software industry doesn't understand its own tools now?
>webdevs can't write basic HTML, don't know how to into SQL, don't know how to write perl, php or any other scripting language for server side, don't know how to into CSS and javascript (javascript is cancer). All of them need multiple frameworks and embed third party scripts.
>System programmers can't into C, can't into assembly, can't into making GUI without a fucking browser engine

I really don't get it. This shit isn't hard. I understand why the grey beards used to laugh at us for not knowing the finer details of what the CPU was doing.

Every generation of "programmers" becomes further and further removed from how the computer actually works. By the time I'm 80 no one will probably be able to maintain the kernels any longer and they'll just be spooky black box no one understands but everyone bolts their shit on top of anyway. Just another dependency.

WTF are these people even paying for degrees for?

>>105674292
it hogs gpu which you don't even have

>>105674610
>>105673491
I was mostly talking to this dumbass.

>>105674510
yeah, unfortunatly you have to choose between good ad blocking and good performance. not my fault

>>105674512
newfag

>>105674568
my dad had a copy of moviemaker he always used, when he got a new pc he asked me to install it and i couldnt. its simply gone. theres no good alternative

>>105670581
>the only software which has actually evolved over time are productivity apps
I'll argue they've only stagnated or have just gotten worse. OneNote is the only app useful to me but it's so fucking bloated that it's unusable at times. The shit never syncs to my phone when I need it, so I just resort to emailing myself notes and then returning later to scroll through my own inbox. Literally it is so bad that it's just easier to fucking EMAIL myself or write it down.

Every calendar app has the same annoying shit features and lack of innovation. It seems like every day I run into an issue with Google or Outlook calendar. Managing reoccurring events is still a fucking joke. My work Outlook practically fucking crashes when trying to display 3 calendars with maybe only a few hundred events TOTAL. There's still not a feature to just show available timeslots on a particular day.

>>105674682
ublock lite works fine, wdym

>>105674700
The final boss of productivity is emacs with org-mode. Anyone using anything else is wasting a lot of time. I know emacs gets a lot of hate for being "bloated" but compared to modern shit it really isn't.

>>105674705
thats not good ad blocking. and i dont mean manifest v3, you can disable that, i mean generally the normal ublock works better on firefox

>>105674714
I literally see zero ads which means it works perfectly. Trannies will invent every reason to use troonfox.

>>105674765
its still taking up bandwidth and it still exists, its just hidden

>>105670783
anon, hl is 26