Thread 105681104

Learn to code?
More like learn to draw.

>>105681104 (OP)
Art History involves no drawing.
It's just a history class (about art). It's not an art class.

So this is how it ends, huh?

>>105681118
Sounds like the most useless shit.

>>105681104 (OP)
Ai + Cheap Skilled foreign labor = death of entry level tech jobs. Also, factor in all the industry veterans that got laid of by big tech and that are now punching below their weight.

>>105681121
yep.

>>105681127
More useful than programming, according to employers.

Why can't CompSci and Computer Engineers just pivot to Electrical Engineering or Business Analytics?

Almost entirely attributable to the fact that the field attracts autistic retards whom it never occurs to that talking to people irl might be a way to find a job. People who pursue art degrees leave the house, have friends, etc

>>105681141
>AI
No. If AI was actually taking anyone's jobs, there would actually be very low unemployment for CompEng.
CompEng makes the GPUs AI needs.

>>105681154
That'd involve math.

>>105681154
because EE is harder than CS. more math, physics etc. Most of the cs guys I know failed ee.

>ai is a bubble, trust me

Those people are so not ready. Sweet sweet karma.

I'm honestly glad codemonkies are going extinct. More work for passionates and multidisciplinary people, as work should be.

>>105681168
retard logic because they don't need more GPU designs to sell huge numbers of GPUs, therefore they don't need more comp engs

>>105681154
>Pivot
Boomer myth. Skills aren't transferable anymore. Companies can find exactly what they need online. You either have it or you don't, and education is increasingly a meme

>>105681247
>Skills aren't transferable anymore
If you can write in Python/R, SQL, Tableau, , and use Power Applications and Alteryx, you can do Business Analytics.

>>105681227
It's not just designs, the whole industrial process needs expert such as CompEng to make it more efficient and cheap to manufacture.
If Sam Altman needs 6 gorillion dollars to buy GPUs, surely that should result in more CompEng jobs.
The reality is that, AI is merely a scapegoat.
The lack of CompEng jobs is due to a combination of outsourcing, high interest rates, and kleptocracy of monopolies who don't want to build new fabs or scale production to restrict supply and get higher prices and margins.

>>105681104 (OP)
Honestly, I've seen it coming. The 16 years old me knew that when everybody wants to be a coder the bubble is going to burst so I went for something that's cool, important and doesn't have a surplus of people.
With masters in aerospace engineering I just posted my resume, clicked experience with CAD and Ansys and had the companies calling me asking when could I come for an interview.

Engineering coin to the moon.

>>105681154
IM PIVOOOOTING

>>105681154
EE has so little overlap in core classes with CS you cant just easily "pivot" after like freshman year

>>105681314
>the whole industrial process needs expert such as CompEng to make it more efficient and cheap to manufacture.

No.
The GPU needs 10 comp sci experts to design, and 10000 engineering experts to set up the manufacturing for.

And frankly you are so hopelessly behind there's no point in trying to catch up.

>>105681154
Thank god I choose Accounting.
Second I finish my CPA, I'm bulletproof.

>>105681173
t. never studied ML

>>105681340
>10000 engineering experts
Yes, that's what CompEng is, retard.
CompEng != CompSci

>>105681104 (OP)
Comp-'sci' is a vocational subject. Anyone going to university to learn how to do it is purchasing snake oil. All the resources you need to teach yourself are online and they are free. You should only ever get a degree if there is some sort of professional body in your way of practicing or if you need specialist equipment only found at these institutions. There is no professional body or lack of equipment preventing you from learning how computers work.

>>105681314
>If Sam Altman needs 6 gorillion dollars to buy GPUs, surely that should result in more CompEng jobs.

Is Sam Altman ready to wait for 30 years until you develop a domestic cutting edge foundry from scratch, and accept the risk that after 30 years you may just fail and end up still behind ASML?
Probably not, they aren't the long game types.

>>105681104 (OP)
Underemployment. Look again. You niggers are unemployed because you can't interpret basic information, you're stupid as fuck.

>>105681118
>>105681127
Wrong. I took art history. It is mostly painting/sketching.

>>105681590
Wrong.

>>105681341
>Thank god I choose Accounting.
>Second I finish my CPA, I'm bulletproof.
Based numbers anon

>>105681599
...

>>105681612
What's the matter anon?

>>105681154
CE can pivot to hardware, but EE pays peanuts compared to FAGMAN IT jobs so they're not comparable in the first place.

>>105681341
Yeah, this guy gets it.

>>105681154
How is there such a big demand for nutrionists?

>>105681104 (OP)
>twitercancer
learn to cope

>>105681104 (OP)
>Computer Engineering
>learn to code
Garbage Thread
Garbage OP
Garbage misinfo

>>105681104 (OP)
thats because alot of dumb people are in the field now, no one wants to hire idiots

>>105681104 (OP)
Where the fuck do women work, I still don't get it

>he didn't learn2code with the 2012 learn2code meme
>now he doesn't have 13 years of experience
>he is just a /g/ fizzbuzzposter trapped in unemployment and tutorial hell
Why didn't you learn2code when it was a meme?

That 17% underemployment means that most have a job in their field, while the others are baristas.

>>105682463
*Have a job requiring a college degree

>>105681104 (OP)
Liberal arts chads won. It's over

I like drawing titties and masturbating to the drawrings.

>>105682049
Americans are fat and can't figure out why.
That's literally the reason.

>>105681118
>>105681104 (OP)

Graphic tablet business is more profitable than ever, despite all that AI fearmongering they sell more and more shit for artists every year. Explain that.

>>105681104 (OP)
Why? People didn't stop using computers, someone must write the software for them.
And even with AI someone must write the prompts and check that the result is correct

>>105681127
it is a class for rich kids who do it because it is easy and they are getting a job via their fathers contacts when they graduate. the unemployed ones took it because they were foolishly under the impression it was to learn about the history of art.

the art majors are unironically being hired to correct the art the AI is making which is ironic

>>105681104 (OP)
>source: faggots that answer polls
lol
LMAO
Faggots owned.

>>105681104 (OP)
it makes sense considering most new computer engineering grads are indian
would be more terrifying if they were all employed

>>105681127
Not really.
Art is a multibillion dollar industry, and with the right connections and access to various social circles, there is absolutely enough potential to carve out a real career if you're even remotely clever.
There are a lot of degrees that 'sound like shit', but are actually filters where the top people have massive amounts of potential.
Comp sci is now similar actually. It wasn't before, but now being in the upper echelon matters much more. And the bottom of the class who can't code for shit aren't worth any more than the latest AI model.
But the top guys are now worth manipulatively more.
Interesting times desu

>>105684863
>manipulatively
*multiplicatively