Sam Altman said "Older people think of LLMs as an advanced Google. Young people think of LLMs as an advanced programming language". WTF does this mean? I think of it as an easier google. It's definitely not an "advanced programming language" being that 80% of the code it gives me is noob tier trash is it?

>>105685153 (OP)
>experienced people see the product for what it is
>inexperienced people see the product as magic incantations
same as it always been

>>105685153 (OP)
thats unironically the only truthful thing hes ever said in his life

>>105685153 (OP)
He's referring to the meme that in X years we will all be programming in plain English and that will be the 'advanced programming language'. I.E. ChatGPT is to python as python is to assembly
Yes it's retarded

>>105685153 (OP)
Just bullshit marketing babble.

>>105685153 (OP)
What he means is you have to exhaustively explain what you want it to tell you. If you don't you get a listicle blog-speak slop reply, like an amalgamation of google search results. But he's also talking about "prompt engineering" which shifts the blame for the slop onto the end user. In reality prompt engineering is a meme and you are constrained by the model more than anyone likes to admit.

>>105685153 (OP)
his elongated face annoys me.

>>105685153 (OP)
advance google? lmao. google has.more.options..can you filter by date with llm? car you search a particular website? can you search for particular file formats? Please.

>>105685153 (OP)
he's a salesman, they're full of shit

I think of Sam Altman as someone who puts things in his poop hole and claims that once his company attains AGI he will solve the problems of the lower classes by pumping his wealth towards them.
Which I totally and unironically believe with all my heart, because that's something that happens and as we've seen with other billionaire philanthropists and those in the tech industry it'll totally solve the issues we have.

It's an advanced google.
There's a network behind how LLM's work, operate and can even use tools but it's a search engine. A search engine that gives you cunty answers and can waste your time.
Altman is a man in search of a cancer. I truly believe that when the time comes the cancer he accepts into his body willingly will mutate to kill off the human race faster, a gigacancer, mutated out the ass. Allahu akbar.

>>105685177
>guy selling it hypes it

>>105685841
>A search engine that gives you cunty answers and can waste your time.
How is that "advanced"

>>105685153 (OP)
it's retarded CEO buzzspeak to get more paypiggy investors

>>105685153 (OP)
>I think of it as an easier google
Then you have the mind of a geezer

>>105685153 (OP)
I look at llms like theft

>ASM
too complicated
>C
too complicated
>python (C)
too complicated
>prompt -> python
perfect

if LLM's were the least bit reliable then there'd be no need for this convoluted chain of abstractions, just prompt to binary

>>105686881
>chain of abstractions
None of those are abstractions. You C/C++ people are retarded.

you know, you can say anything, it doesn't have to be true, not that it matters whether you say truth or not

>>105685153 (OP)
>grifter jew says things
>people listen
I remain shocked

>>105685153 (OP)
He's saying you're an out of touch boomer who treats LLMs like databases to receive regurgitated information from, because you don't understand what they're capable of.

>>105685153 (OP)
Prompt writing is programming? idk.

>>105685153 (OP)
If there is a punchable face, he has it. I don't know why, but I have the urge.

>>105686881
One must be out of his mind to compile LLM prompt to binary directly. You need to audit this shit. It might do retarded things. And it is why programming will not go away for a long time. It is just more fancy BASIC to <insert your target language> compiler with surprise mechanics.

>>105689244
nonsensical comment. People do this all the time by running code generated by Ai. Any issues raised during execution can be fed back to the Ai so it can adjust the code accordingly. Simple coding is dead, SE will follow in the future with the advancement of Ai agents.

>>105685153 (OP)
>advanced programming language
I can see what he means by this but Sam Altman is just a psychopathic CEO, not an engineer. LLMs are interfaces between humans and information. He's right to frame it in terms of information but wrong to leave that frame immediately after he establishes it. The entirety of information technology starting with scrawls on clay and papyrus to modern LLMs is about reducing the friction between internal and exogenous information. That's all it's about. AI can do fancy tricks, but it's all about accepting a query, retrieving data, and performing human-relevant actions based on that data.

With a book, you have to physically find the book you need and read it. Internet databases reduce this fiction by eliminating the physical component and adding an easily (in theory) searchable register. LLMs accept a thought "what is beans" and return (in theory) the agglomerate and most-relevant data on beans filtered through a heatmap of what "experts" in beans (again, filtered through a heatmap) think are the highest-confidence statements about and resources on beans.

It's all about the data. Always has been, always will be.

>>105689327
How would you want to input the code back for changes if there is no code output from LLM, but a binary? Are you retarded by any chance? If my comment was nonsense, you are on a different level of nonsense.

>>105685153 (OP)
The way this dude talks reminds me of someone I knew who switched between narcissistic and borderline traits daily. This was a very dangerous person to have in your life.

>>105685153 (OP)
prompt engineering is basically super abstracted programming
the difference is tha you are programming the AI to properly execute the task instead of executing it yourself

>>105689327
Actual software engineer here. This is not how it works at all. LLMs are good for shitting out very standard code. You absolutely cannot just feed errors back into it and expect it to fix those errors unless they are very common human-introduced errors. He is right and you are retarded btw. LLMs cannot be trusted with compiled languages. They introduce exploitable bugs like 50% of the time.

>>105690542
>prompt engineering is basically super abstracted programming
It's more like automated programming. In my experience the guys that are good at programming with LLMs were good programmers before LLMs.

>>105690388
This is just how jews talk. They're very neurotic and that can be mistaken for narcissism.

>>105690551
Actual senior software engineer here. He was right, and you are wrong and retarded.

>>105685153 (OP)
>Sam Altman said

>>105690989
>senior
Senior is literal rank and file. You don't know what you're talking about.

>>105685261
>car you search a particular website?
You actually can with Gemini . If you enable it and give it a URL it will go there and look at it

>>105685153 (OP)
>Sam Altman said "Older people think of LLMs as an advanced Google. Young people think of LLMs as an advanced programming language"
No-one is making video games for the television any more

>>105685261

>>105685153 (OP)
>It's definitely not an "advanced programming language" being that 80% of the code it gives me is noob tier trash is it?
That's not what he means.

>>105685153 (OP)
He merely said they THINK they are those things. When in fact LLMs are just advanced T9.

>>105685153 (OP)
>Young people think of LLMs as an advanced programming language"
its thinly veiled self fellation style marketing

>advanced programming language
>feed it the entirety of the documentation
>ask a question based on the documentation
>it still makes up packages that don't exist
>"You're absolutely right! That isn't what you wanted."
>makes up a different package that also doesn't exist

>Sam Altman said "Older people think of LLMs as an advanced Google. Young people think of LLMs as an advanced programming language". WTF does this mean? I think of it as an easier google. It's definitely not an "advanced programming language" being that 80% of the code it gives me is noob tier trash is it?
It means you are old.