What's the best Linux distro for a beginner moving from Windows? I also want to at least play steam games.

>>105687714 (OP)
Install GNU+Gentoo

>>105687714 (OP)
EndeavourOS KDE, Manjaro KDE, Fedora KDE, or Mint.
There is no such thing as a beginner distro because Linux is actually good now. Don't distrohop.

all linux distros are clunky and ecosystem is underdeveloped so just continue using windows 10 like everyone else

>>105687746
Retard

>>105687746
win10 is clunky too i hate using search

>>105687781
Don't use search then. Use keypirinha and everything by void software.

>>105687714 (OP)
>fuck windows windows bad linux good
>I'm going back to windows...
>switch BAD nintendo BAD don't buy!!!!
>look at my switch 2!!
>I'm leaving twitter because the bloody bastard bitches are bullying me!!
>*goes back to twitter*
Why this pajeet has anyone left watching him is a mystery for sure

>>105687714 (OP)
Unironically endeavouros. I love it.

Surprisingly, when I tried out Linux mint (people say beginner friendly), it took many more steps to get steam working properly (a bit more complicated for me as I have a 9070xt, so recent gpu) than it would have taken on endeavouros

On Mint, I had to update and upgrade the Linux kernel and install and enable flatpak. Then run the command to get steam

And then I had to enable loose repositories or whatever in settings to be able to add the mesa drivers (needed for vulkan) repo to apt so it could install the mesa drivers

Don't forget to update and upgrade. Lol

On endeavouros, the mesa drivers is built in and it was just sudo pacman- S steam

Lmao

>>105687714 (OP)
Windows 10

>>105687714 (OP)
If you really want to game then Nobara (Fedora) or CachyOS (Arch)
Both are preconfigured for gaming with various patches that help optimize things. I personally use Nobara. Just switched this year January. Running a 9800X3D + 4090, it's been great, really.

If you have an AMD gpu, then it's even better

>>105687714 (OP)
Ubuntu will always be beginner friendly.

>>105687714 (OP)
As bloated as Ubuntu is, it is one of the only distros that just works. Try Linux Mint, and half your shit will not work.

>>105687714 (OP)
avoid any distro that has SNAP, it is cancer
>ubuntu family

Linux will only be beginner friendly once there is a distro where you won’t have to see the command line EVER(so never)

>>105687714 (OP)
Stop listening to all these retards, it's Mint Cinnamon, NOTHING else.

Even with that being said, eventually you will have an issue that requires you to learn the command line and when you do you are going to have to learn the equivalent of an operating systems class in order to understand what you are doing.

Just use Windows 11 IoT Enterprise LTSC from massgravel

Linux Mint Cinnamon or Fedora KDE imo

>>105688245
>Try Linux Mint, and half your shit will not work.
Sounds like (((YOU))) problem

>>105687714 (OP)
the best most stable distro is still windows 11. you can get a key for as low as 2.99$. There are workarounds to disable telemetry and recall (easier than installing and learning some exotic os that breaks by itself and that has like 3% of hardware and software compatibility ). Plus it will save you alot of headache when running into issues (which would otherwise take you hours to solve on troonix)

>>105687714 (OP)
Hey it's the /pol/tard street shitter who checks all of the street shitter stereotype boxes

>brings up free speech to justify racism towards nigs, gooks and anyone else who isn't a street shitter
>ragequit from twitter because people were discovering street shitters
>almost admitted to using the "deep web" to look at kids
>says the "deep web" is a bad place only because of racism
>bought a blue eyed blonde haired canadian woman

I would recommend starting with ubuntu, learning the terminal and then choosing whatever distro you want.

>>105689094
the last part made my blood boil. fuck that mutajeet. don't get whats so appealing about this streets hitter who got bullied off social media

>>105687822
>windows is 40 years 20 versions
>still unusable basic features like search
>UI worse than any custom launcher from 20 years ago

can anyone explain this phenomenon?

>>105687714 (OP)
archlinux+kde

>/g/tards are afraid of le terminal and recommend /v/ermin to continuously get assraped by microdick
Never change.

>>105687714 (OP)
i hope you are happy without mods

>>105689153
rather than the terminal, working through the wine layer on game installs is niggertits on every distro I've tried.

>>105689165
>The wine layer on game installs its niggertits on every distro
As in the Windows directories or?

>>105688650
No OS is beginner friendly then beside MacOS. You need command line in Windows 10 (and 11) too. I don't think you need it on MacOS, but you might need it there too if you want to do anything other than being a brain dead vegetable.

Ok, coming back to this thread, i'll try mint and ubuntu

>>105689175
yes. they are created by steam automatically when theres no native linux build (thats almost everything)

Arch.
Fedora.
OpenSUSE & Debian if you're not gaming (but you say you are).

Don't use a baby OS built off another distro. You're going to have to use the terminal at some point, it's simply unavoidable. You want to play steam games, that means you're going to have to deal with a GPU, at least once you'll have to set a kernel flag or correct one.
If you can't figure out how to install arch somehow despite it having an installer, use endeavour, it's literally just the arch install script with KDE and you can choose if you do an online install.

Avoid ubuntu. Avoid debian (if you want to game), avoid memes like nobara, bazzite, cachy, mint, pop os etc.
If you have an nvidia GPU. Sell it and replace it with an AMD or Intel GPU (Intel preferred).
If you need AI, real AI that is and not just text based inference, go Intel or stick with your nvidia shitcard if you're somehow not a vramlet. If you're a vramlet, intel > amd > nvidia in that order for a replacement.

>>105689204
What is the problem with them?

>>105689248
if you want to mod or adjust anything it sucks

>>105689248
The user fundamentally doesn't understand how a prefix works.
As you can see by their comments on modding, even if it were lutris with wine, they'd still be running into issues because their brain can't wrap their head around the concept.

>>105689332
I have modded through wine retard. it's just annoying and ass.

>>105689283
What's the actual specificity of the issue? Like what's the roadblock.

>>105689396
the shit is burried in another file system different from linux. the steam file system doesn't use friendly names at all for any of it's installs in the apps folder. most mods that are diy run through bat files which wont run and so you must manually do so. Navigating to the specific save files embedded in these proton boxes can be an incredibly chore. If all you want to do is just start a game you bought on steam it works great. The moment you try to use the files you paid for it sucks ass. and that's when it works on steam at all, which is normally only a thing for games by companies big enough to have a financial interest. Older games often run poorly. Windows 11 unfucked through the only halfway competent team at microsoft (that's a joke, they where never competent, I visted them when the Xbox was new. presentation given by incomprehensible jeet talking about """bloo tood""" even back then) through the power of plagiarizing steamos and playbook revisions of win11.

>>105689518
>Windows 11 unfucked through the only halfway competent team at microsoft (that's a joke, they where never competent, I visted them when the Xbox was new. presentation given by incomprehensible jeet talking about """bloo tood""" even back then) through the power of plagiarizing steamos and playbook revisions of win11.
cant come fast enough

>>105687714 (OP)
i've tried a few over the years but never made the break from wangblows untill last year. i settled on arch. i like how much control i have over what is installed.

main reason i finally gave up on wangblows was the continuos spying and mining of personal data on top of ads and installing shovelware games behind my back. swapped my daily driver 8 months ago, i stared out tinkering on a steamdeck in desktop mode and decided to wipe one of my laptops to daily drive it for a while. i still keep 1 wanglows pc for gaming and using steam to do the gamestreaming thing if the game is a demanding title otherwise i can run it just fine on my laptop.

with the comming end of w10 and forced upgrades i think there will be a flood of normies "checking out" linux and you will see a flood of posts of wich is best blah blah blah what is plug and pray ect.

>>105689518
No, it literally uses the normal Linux file system. For example, if I wanted to do something to the saves of my silly puzzle game, I'll first look up the AppID by right clicking the game in Steam and selecting Properties. I then go to Updates and the APPID is there : 3204020
Then I type into the address bar the folder for steam prefixes with the APPID
~/.local/share/Steam/steamapps/compatdata/3204020/
Boom there we go, it's all the game related userdata that is located outside the game folder. This is standard for all games.
If you want the actual game files that's even easier since it's directly under the right click menu in library.

>>105687714 (OP)
ultramarine linux

>>105689094
>>105689107
Why are you chuds so mad about that, its not like hes having a kid with her, hell he's raising her kid she had with a previous white guy
And there is nothing wrong with him leaving twitter over their absurd hatred of indians, he only did it during the peak of it I think

>>105687714 (OP)
tldr: India wins, everyone else looses.

>>105688194
>I personally use Nobara. Just switched this year January. Running a 9800X3D + 4090, it's been great, really.
same setup, except a 7800X3D

can confirm Nobara "just werks" (only tried Steam games so far), but it gets iffy when I change settings in certain games. Cyberpunk in particular has issues when you mess with DLSS

>>105687714 (OP)
Exherbo Linux

>>105689119
Yeah, you're flat out lying about both points.

>>105689612
>No, it literally uses the normal Linux file system.
it doesn't.
anyway you can lie all you want. I've used it

>>105689212
>OpenSUSE if you're not gaming
mops every Linux distro when it comes on Gaming benchmark. Even the CachyOS that have useless modified Kernel

>>105688713
Sure, I recommended it to my friends (which I have) and they all complained that it didn't just work, they went back to Windows eventually because it works
I know how to troubleshoot their shit, I am literate, they are not. Linux Mint is bad for the average person, and a shit recommendation overall for the employed

>>105687714 (OP)
>What's the best Linux distro for a beginner moving from Windows
Sadly, fedora workstation and taking a deep look at the rpmfusion docs to properly install the amd drivers, if you use nvidia, good luck, fedora is quite literally broken and won't boot unless you disable the plymouth.

>>105689939
Do you even know what a file system is? I have Steam installed on a btrfs partition and the steam folder is not on a different fs. It's the very same one. You can access all steam folders without any special "steam fs" drivers. You don't need to mount the supposed steam partition (which doesn't exist) either, all steam folders are just put inside ~/.local/share/

I don't think anyone is lying here, you're just completely and utterly clueless to what you're actually saying.
You're basically saying the analog of "if a game on Windows puts files in %appdata%/Roaming/shittygame/save instead of C:\Progra~1\Shittygame\save it's using a different FS."
This is completely retarded.

Mint and install Lutris or Heroic Games Launcher for vidya. Or just install Steam and install games through that and the vast majority of games just werk.

>>105690281
it doesn't.
anyway you can lie all you want. I've used it

>>105687714 (OP)
WSL ubuntu

>>105689765
Here comes re***t ty*ing jeet to defend simping for fat white girls from canada and other hypocritical things.

>>105690339
Yeah, no you haven't. If you have, you are actually lying about it.

>>105689119
See OP image.

>>105689931
Search in Windows is genuinely trash. Even folder level search is slow for what it is doing. System wide search from start menu might as well be considered broken.

openPEPE

>>105689931
He's not. As someone who used Windows for like 20+ years I can tell you unambiguously that search is absolutely fucking rekt in Windows 10 and 11. Probably 7 too, I just don't remember it anymore.
The pajeet that thought web search was a good idea to integrate into the search function needs to eat a red hot piece of steel and have his dick cut off.

As for the UI, you can say it's horrendous based on the fact that for some reason Microsoft thinks that you have to hide all the useful utilities from the user and nest several control panels in each other alone. Fuck that.

arch + kde
t. moron using arch + kde

>>105690814
Me too, bro. You didn't need to say you're a dunce though, the arch icon is a dunce cap for a reason.

>>105687714 (OP)
Use Ubuntu.

/g/ is full of edgy contrarians who will lead you down many paths, but you will always come back to Ubuntu.

Ubuntu has the most robust support community, and despite being called 'Noobuntu', people only call it that because it works better than 99% of distros out there.

Freetards object to some of Ubuntu's practices (and they aren't unjustified), but as a beginner, you should start with Ubuntu.

You will eventually cave to the distrohopping pressure of /g/ and try popOS!, Arch, void, etc. If you're a /pol/fag, you might even start using OpenBSD.

If you want Ubuntu's reliability without the Canonical faggotry, just use Xubuntu.

>>105690565
it doesn't.
anyway you can lie all you want. I've used it

>>105688342
>not using snap and flatpak because it doesn't matter

>>105690852
Repeating the same lie over and over isn't going to make it true. Feel free to post actual proof of your assertion, though. You obviously can't because you're lying, but in the unlikely event that you're not - do it.

>>105690864
I am not repeating a lie, you are. but I am also not going to bother debunking your bullshit. as I said, you can lie all you want.

>>105690831
Pretty much this op. Ubuntu has the most support. Maybe eventually after you get used to ubuntu you will want to experiment but 95% of what you'll want to do you'll be able to do on ubuntu with the most amount of ease.
Sometimes I just install it and feel a little awkward because there really isn't anything to do after installation except maybe install steam and chrome which takes like a second.

>>105690876
Oh, you're not going to bother, huh? Nice cope, retard. You literally can't prove I'm lying because you already know that you are. You're not even hiding it well. Just take the L and stop posting. Maybe you'll find something less obviously wrong to state next time, so you don't get instantly and effortlessly debunked.

>>105690934
>you're not going to bother
exactly. I've done this personally. I dont need to prove anything. if you want to lie go ahead. I already own a steam deck, I know how the system works and why it sucks.

>>105690963
I'm sure you're the one person in this universe with a special snowflake steam that works different from everyone elses steam. Like seriously why are you even trying to make such outlandish claims, which only you'd be able to reproduce - only to assert that you don't even intend to bother reproducing the claims.

I have steam installed on 2 different Linux computers including a Steam Deck and it works identical on both, neither has a "special file system for steam". You clearly don't know how it works because you're not describing it correctly.

>>105691069
>I['m sure you're the one person
you severely overestimate deck ownership and mod usership. for most people, they click play in steam and if theres workshop mods they might use those. people who download their own texture packs or other diy mods aren't using wine compatability layers for gaming

>>105691115
What are you even talking about. You're claiming that your steam works different from what it is actually like. You're the only person who has a steam that uses a custom FS, nobody else has the steam that you claim to be using.
Yes there are people who have the steam deck, including me, but our steam doesn't work the same way as yours does.

If I want access to my game files - I have it, it's in a folder which I know on my normal linux filesystem.
If I want access to my save data - I have it, it's in a folder which I know on my normal linux filesystem.
If I want access to workshop mods to modify those - I have it, they are in a folder which I know on my regular linux filesystem.

I literally made customized race mod for Kenshi which I use on Linux because the the original mod doesn't cater to my preferences exactly.

>>105691220
they aren't. thanks for playing

>>105691300
I said it before and I'll say it again. Lying and repeating the lie isn't going to make it true. You're free to demonstrate what you're talking about but you'll just cope and say "I won't bother" again, because you are clearly unable. You know, on account of being objectively and irrefutably wrong.

>>105689119
How is the search function better in linux, genuine question not trying to be a dick.

>>105689939
Yeah nah you're just wrong. Steam with Proton puts files under an annoying directory path (you have to look up the app id to find shit) but that doesn't make it a separate filesystem

>>105691398
Well for one thing it doesn't try to search local files from the Internet randomly. Windows search is such a fucking pain, I had to memorize all the cpl applet filenames to reliably run them because if I didn't type the exact filename in the search function it'd search online.

>>105691529
disable online search via a simple registry tweak, you retarded fucking zoomer

>>105691856
i thought linux was the os for tinker trannies though

>>105691856
Why do I need to modify registry for basic functionality to work? Fuck off. I didn't need to edit some obtuse text file to have working search in Arch Linux.

>>105689212
Spoken memetard. He cannot into real distros.

captcha: DSPGP

>>105691866
I was what you could consider a windows power user.
What I've discovered over the last decade and a half is that when I install modern windows, I have a lot of work to do changing group policy, the registry etc, and not just a one off, sometimes I'll be required to do something, perform an action, then revert a change.
It's such a tiring bunch of hoops to jump through to the point that I started automating as much of it as I could and even then, aspects of the UI & UX would continue to crop up and require manual intervention.

The worst experience I had with this was when I used the new Windows Server based on 11, now this product has been going into the shitter since the Windows 7 era, but golly, there's so much bloat in it now, so much extra configuration you need to do to make it useable.

Then, ironically on linux, I found that most of what I automated, stayed the same. The big pain points were drivers, kernel flags and updates, but even those were much easier than the process on windows.
Windows is the tinkertroon OS now, 10 and 11 are just full of so much garbage, so many half assed attempts to update the UX in areas while stripping out functionality that I could swear they hired the gnome 3 wrecking ball to do it.

>>105691398
just get everything.exe for real-time indexed search to improve your life - its miles better than windows default
all the other os be it *nix or mac had that for decades

>>105687714 (OP)
Windows 11 and run a bunch of auto-tweaks to turn off the spyware

>>105687714 (OP)
Don't use a computer.

>Watch video
>"Many countries that aren't on good terms with America have their own distribution for the military. Why would they use an American made OS for critical things?"
>"Security Enhanced Linux is a collaberation between Redhat and the NSA"
LMAO

>>105688650
Mint?
I feel like any command line shit I've done is just optional.
Maybe I'm misremembering though.

>>105688650
who would want that? thats stupid. thats like buying a tank but you can only spin the turret.

>>105694874
Pretty much, assuming you only do normie web browsing and word processing stuff

>>105691866
It is dishonest to call what you do on Linux "tinkering". You aren't tuning a machine to get the most performance out of it, you are playing with software legos and distros are lego sets. The average kid trying to get the most FPS in Fortnite understands his computer, both at the hardware and OS level, more than the /g/tard that thinks their computing experience has been optimized by minimizing number # of packages.

I'm liking Arch but I also make backups of sys drives every few months anyways