Thread 105692573 - /g/ [Archived: 774 hours ago]

Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:36:08 PM No.105692573
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AI copyright laundering is officially legal in California, break out the Windows source code leaks boys
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:40:35 PM No.105692610
>>105692573 (OP)
Anthropic after they got rich started their own book scanning project. Early on they were pirates and they are still going to get slapped for that in California.

Also, it doesn't matter what any court other than the federal Supreme Court says.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:42:20 PM No.105692632
>>105692573 (OP)
If this judgement stands, it only helps the huge AI companies which can scan million of books they bought themselves.

Small AI companies can get fucked.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:53:45 PM No.105692728
>>105692573 (OP)
>California of all places
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:54:55 PM No.105692733
>>105692632
brb investing in companies that make book scanners
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:56:52 PM No.105692743
>>105692573 (OP)
I hope everyone involved goes to hell and suffer for eternity. They will not get any comeuppance on this Earth. That much is clear.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:58:54 PM No.105692761
>>105692632
Launder the Win32 api while it's still legal at least.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 8:59:41 PM No.105692772
>>105692573 (OP)
Based. So in theory I could do this
>train a model on Windows source code
>vibe code a "Windows-like" OS
>it gives me the verbatim Windows source code
And it's completely legal because of this law. Nice.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:02:39 PM No.105692794
Now all you need is an AI model trained on a particular copyrighted work that is the same size as the copyrighted work and only produces a single output, the copyrighted work, all that's left is a clever name with AI in it... how about zipAI?
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:04:17 PM No.105692808
>>105692573 (OP)
>weasel still calls it "stolen"

get fucked, intellectual property is an insane disease and it's going away
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:04:56 PM No.105692814
>>105692772
>>105692794
It's only legal if you're rich and ready for the retaliations from Microsoft and other billionaires.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:06:18 PM No.105692823
>>105692743
God doesn't care about AI at all
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:07:01 PM No.105692828
>>105692814
Just make it open source
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:11:03 PM No.105692863
>>105692808
i've always thought it's weird that 4chan repeats the
>you will own nothing and be happy
meme but also unironically hates people owning things
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:24:13 PM No.105692986
>>105692863
thats just a foss-terrorist doe
me, im on the opposite of the spectrum and i airgap my code
but thats mostly because i dont want someone else to make cash out of my code without gettiing a share
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:24:52 PM No.105692992
>>105692772
It's like playing an instrument. You can learn using copyrighted music, copyright holders have no right to prevent this or charge you. But you can't sell your recordings of those songs. A court would have to deem any music you make original/transformative.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:25:09 PM No.105692996
>>105692573 (OP)
>goy torrents a movie
>gets sent to jail for 400 years for copyright infringement

>Big Jew corp creates tool explicitly for the purpose of making profit regurgitating the work of others
>this is now legal
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:27:06 PM No.105693021
>>105692863
>t. brainlet

Ownership is for scarce resources. You can't own an idea. "Intellectual property" was always fake and gay. It's not property it's extortion.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:36:20 PM No.105693093
>>105693021
>You can't own an idea.
why?
i spend years of time to learn shit, then years to invent something and years to test it
why should you be given access to that?
you didnt contribute
do fuck off lamao
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:38:21 PM No.105693111
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>>105692863
A lot of people here are really obsessed with the concept of public domain despite not actually being able to explain what they'd do with an IP that's in the domain to begin with
All I can imagine is that some people here are delusional enough to think that they can piggyback off of things that are already established when they could've done that shit with fanart like 15+ years ago
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:40:03 PM No.105693121
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>>105693111
theyre foss-terrorists
the jihadis of the IT world
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:40:07 PM No.105693123
>>105692632
>they bought themselves
But they didn't need to buy them. They just pirated them.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:43:11 PM No.105693148
>>105693123
>They just pirated them
This, they were suing facebook for literally torrenting terabytes of copyrighted things from their offices.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:43:28 PM No.105693151
The kikes have something to gain from this so that's why it passed.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:43:35 PM No.105693153
>>105693123
They are still going to get fucked for that.
>Alsup also said, however, that Anthropic's copying and storage of more than 7 million pirated books in a "central library" infringed the authors' copyrights and was not fair use. The judge has ordered a trial in December to determine how much Anthropic owes for the infringement.
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:44:37 PM No.105693168
>>105693153
They're just gonna slap them with a fine and not order them to destroy the models trained on copyrighted materials?
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:50:16 PM No.105693207
>>105693093
ideas are for the collective to be something greater. you think industrialist progress was because 1 man or company? no it was a collective of peoples ideas that all spiraled off each others creativity. You can see the leap forward and immediate stagnation the moment copyright laws changed
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:53:50 PM No.105693246
>>105693168
Statutory damage minimum is 750 dollar. Downloading a shadow library is clearly willful, so unless Dario can find a jewish judge it's unlikely to be minimum. For 7 million books it can add up quite high.

Of course finding a jewish judge isn't that hard.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:56:06 PM No.105693269
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mic rosoft-open-source
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>>105693207
>ideas are for the collective to be something greater
why?
what did the collective do for me?
the social contract? i already contribute with my taxes to that
thats the deal
>you think industrialist progress was because 1 man or company?
thats pretty much the history of industrialization doe
its the sum total of small innovations made by individuals
you kinda said it yourself
and i did share ideas already, in my life
from what i hear a couple people made a paper out of an idea a had about graph theory aa while ago
in relation to order an unordered graph
an efficient algo to do that
but why should i share something that came out of my craft?
more interestingly, why should i share ideas that would allow competition to out-compete me?
lamao get bent
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:58:20 PM No.105693285
Can we please destroy civilization already so return we can return to monke and I can start killing you fags without any legal annoyances?
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 9:59:42 PM No.105693300
industry
industry
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>>105693207
>>105693269
actually, a middle ground exists:
give me tax relief and i will share ideas
because im giving plus nec ultra to the collective so its only just that either im less burdened somewhere else or i get more out of the contract than others
the latter is harder to achieve than the former, its easier to take less than to create something to give more
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:01:31 PM No.105693314
>>105693285
>ideas like... gunpowder, automatic weapons or even sentry guns
what makes you think you wouldnt be the one to die?
were the ones with the ideas after all, kek
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:05:37 PM No.105693349
>>105692573 (OP)
does this get MJ off the hook
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Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:06:49 PM No.105693361
>>105693349
No. He remains dead.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:25:13 PM No.105693501
>>105693285
It has been destroyed. We are in hell, anon. We died a long time ago. Think about it.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 10:38:18 PM No.105693610
>>105692573 (OP)
No one on /g/ understands generative AI. It's similar to using a quote from a movie in colloquial speech.
Anonymous
6/24/2025, 11:44:03 PM No.105694208
>>105692632
It will stand. Trump's big beautiful bill forbids states from regulating ai for at least 10 years.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:07:15 AM No.105694424
>>105694208
Wasn't talking about new laws. This still has to go through a couple appeals to the federal supreme court.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:19:33 AM No.105694521
Why shouldn't AI be trainable on copywrited material? Humans can read copywrited material for inspiration.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:20:43 AM No.105694529
paiton
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>>105694521
theres no problem with that
the problem is royalties
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:21:55 AM No.105694545
file
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>>105692573 (OP)
tfw being stingy and never releasing my source code finally paid off
imagine being a cuck in current year and releasing your work for free
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:22:27 AM No.105694549
>>105692772
Intermediate, abstract representations within large machine learning models that can recite Windows source code are permissible under free use. The recited Windows source code is still verbatim Windows source code.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:13:27 AM No.105696953
>>105692573 (OP)
So before I steal anything I'll just (not)steal it with an AI and then steal it wholesale. Got it. Not corrupt at all!
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:23:28 AM No.105697008
>>105693111
>they could've done that shit with fanart like 15+ years ago
that better be bait
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:31:52 AM No.105697062
>>105692573 (OP)
That's a terrible decision.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:33:10 AM No.105697073
>>105697062
I take that back. It's a terrible decision in terms of legalism and correctness. The actual consequences could be interesting if le "AI" dismantles copyright.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 7:52:20 AM No.105697184
>train model with one image
>it outputs the same image
>it's now fair use
based
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:21:13 AM No.105697349
Suchir bros...
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:21:31 AM No.105697351
>>105694545
Use GPL bro
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:26:56 AM No.105697366
>>105692573 (OP)
can someone explain this to me in retard terms. that tweet isnt worded well.
AI companies can now take all the copyrighted material they want without repercussion?
thats a bit crazy but also definitely necessary in the grand scheme of AI warfare
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:36:54 AM No.105697417
>>105692814
>It's only legal if you're rich
That's just the entire legal system
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:40:47 AM No.105697433
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cand.434709/gov.uscourts.cand.434709.231.0_3.pdf
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:43:44 AM No.105697447
>>105697366
AI companies in California can scan books to train AI until an appeals court says otherwise.

You still can't download books 1/2/3 to do it.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:46:05 AM No.105697467
>>105697433
Thank you.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 8:47:13 AM No.105697470
The only good AI companies are doing is triggering a renaissance in civilian nuclear power.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:50:01 AM No.105697764
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>>105697184
just do image -> VAE encode -> (latent space) -> VAE decode -> image
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 9:57:29 AM No.105697814
>>105697184
>To repeat and be clear: Authors do not allege that any LLM output provided to users infringed upon Authorsโ€™ works.
>Here, if the outputs seen by users had been infringing, Authors would have a different case. And, if the outputs were ever to become infringing, Authors could bring such a case. But that is not this case.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:30:20 AM No.105698014
>>105697814
It's output of LLM, so it's fair use. It really is that simple.
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:34:10 AM No.105698033
if you can be replaced by a machine you should be replaced by a machine

ai art is an oxymoron and if you can be replaced by it you were never creative in the first place
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:34:17 AM No.105698035
>>105698014
>I'm going to ignore the ruling because I disagree with it
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Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:37:32 AM No.105698057
>>105698035
Currently the models can output pretty much exact frames from films.
Are you implying all these models are infringing?
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 10:42:19 AM No.105698085
>>105692863
data belongs to the people
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 11:52:03 AM No.105698464
>>105692632
Why? Small ai companies will just train theres on the big ai companies, then a /g/-tard will ""pirate"" it and we all will have ai waifus in a few years.
Anonymous
6/25/2025, 12:21:57 PM No.105698646
>>105694208
Elon won