do you think PC desktops are finished by 2030?
computers will never again be the same?

>PC desktops are finished by 2030
how do you know? do you have insider knowledge?

This kills the ATX standard

Thermodynamics exist so probably not.

i think GPUs will have seperate housings made of toughened glass and require a three phase industail power supply

>>105721237
>This loud overheating piece of dog shit kills the ATX standard where i could boot a dozen vms with the fan on my cpu heatsink at 200rpm
Okay kid.

>>105721082 (OP)
For most home users I think it already is, the vast majority of work form home normies have moved onto a laptop + dock. I even thought about doing it since my gaming requirements aren't that high.

>>105721082 (OP)
GPUs are only getting bigger, so no.
Some fag and his banana for scale.

>>105721082 (OP)
As opposed to what? Why do all these retards keep declaring the "end of x" with no alternative in mind?

fuck

>>105721082 (OP)
Absolutely nothing will change.

>>105721082 (OP)
In a few more cycles I plan on just buying server hardware. Consumer desktop hardware doesn't really make sense anymore unless you're a gaymer faggot.

>>105721307
And how many fans do you have
My mini-itx build only has like 4 fans that spin at a constant 700rpm, even under full load

>>105721082 (OP)
Yes. And it is revolving around the future split of Windows.
Traditional tower will be definitely dead for the mainstream.
For everyday computing, consumers will be orientated to Windows 12 copilot with low power chips+AI. So only laptops, AiOs, and miniPCs will be available. For normies, a smartphone must be the main unit of computing.
For workstations, it is required to go through authorized dealers to acquire one that comes with Windows.
Windows 12 + copilot won't be available for small/hobbyist system builders for purchase anymore. Ofc it can be pirated, and for exchange of more shared data with MSFT.
For gamers, towers PC will remain, will come with a special version of Windows catered to gamers, and sold under XBOX label. Can be converted to workstations but with a lot of additional tweaking.

>>105721237
It kills itself.
There's absolutely no reason to use one of those shit nuggets over just hooking up your smartphone to a TV.

>>105721082 (OP)
It is already happening
>normalfags who are the cashcows are already using their smartphones or laptops for their computing needs
>the only consumers left in the market are gamers
>rest of PC users are power users/professionals

>PC is slowly shifting towards catering to those professionals like in the 80s
>shit will get expensive as fuck because you're now trying to buy a computer in a market aimed at high income professionals and not normal consumers anymore

>>105721237
these things with external GPUs might just change everything. Honestly, you can get a fucking $300 mini pc and it kicks ass because it plays every game that came out pre2020. Add on a $500 GPU and you're playing every game out there.

Everyone knows that you should NEVER FUCKING BUY A GPU THAT COSTS MORE THAN A FUCKING CONSOLE. You just don't do it. It's stupid. A PC with a GPU that costs the same as a console is going to outperform that console any day of the week. This is the rule for 30 years.

>>105725274

uh does it have proper connector for external gpu

>>105725139
Literally any professional software you can think of that doesn't run on android or ios you dumb mother fucker. You can get one of those for $250 and run blender on it.

>>105725293
I have seen them with docks so, uh, yes.

>>105721082 (OP)
Only gamers and professionals have a use for desktops now.

>>105721197
He's a time traveller.

>>105721237
if you buy this shit don't act surprised if god demands your soul back

>>105725502
They either use thunderbolt usb which will bottleneck them or oculink m.2 connector which are too much of hassle since they're inside the boxes in general

>>105725581
Hey quick question without looking it up: if your life depended on it and you had no internet access, how would you open a PDF?

>>105725635
Chrome or firefox open a pdf just fine

>>105725635
And since no internet I'm assuming edge can do it too.

>>105725274
Why would you split it when you can just build it to one case. Retard.

Also, consoles suck. You never get real graphics or legacy games. Just expensive titles that run in 30 fps minus drops. Real GPU makes sense for 144 Hz gaming.

>>105725768
Because these chips are OEM, dirt fucking cheap, and come in extremely small cases that are extremely easy to transport, setup, and you're a fucking retard.

>>105725914
God damnit, NOT OEM, they are just closed chips which I can't think of how you call them. You can't get them, straight up. They are dirt cheap, powerful, and just nice.

>>105725487
>Literally any professional software you can think of that doesn't run on android or ios you dumb mother fucker.
no """"professional"""" uses fucking a fucking nuc you dense retard.
>running Blender
>on a nuc
lol
lmao

>>105726274
Call centers use nucs all the time and those are professionals.

>>105726274
>nuc
What the fuck is a nuc? Two, if I were to run a gaming studio I would absolutely buy a bunch of beelinks at $500 each and run the shit out of them. They ABSOLUTELY FUCKING CAN make a AAA game. There's no reason why they couldn't. Not a single fucking reason.

At the studio I worked at the PCs were meh. At the school I went at they were shitty iMacs. Everyone got along just fine and those things cost x5 as much as a beelink.

>>105721237
>you will live in the pod
>you will use the tiny shit pc

>>105726386
You can get 180fps with DLSS at 1080p max RT, highest settings in the newest assassins creed with a $400 video card.

Spend $5k on your shitty desktop dumbass. Show those indians what's up.

>>105726360
>What the fuck is a nuc?

google is your friend, retarded fuckstick. instead of asking and making yourself look like a retard, you could have just googled it and saved me from replying to say you are a fucking retard.

>>105728155
only you dumb faggots have ever said nuc. Literally killyourself before I get to you.

>>105729020

LOL shutup stupid bitch

>>105721082 (OP)
How would I access the internet? I'm not using some brain interface, that's for sure.

>>105725274
>mini pc + egpu
Just build a mini ITX system at that point.

i'm going to use my pc forever.

>>105725274
External graphics cards are a mostly retarded idea. Enclosures are expensive and a pain in the ass. Not only is performance limited, but that shit needs its own power supply anyway. Rather than buying some fucking mini-PC + enclosure (+ PSU if not included or integrated) + graphics card you're literally going to be better off just building a mini-ITX or micro-ATX (more affordable) PC that's also going to be faster not only due to using desktop parts but most importantly because the GPU is actually going to get a full 16 PCIe lanes rather than being gimped over some external cable for no reason.

At least the laptopfags have some reason to drool at overpriced eGPU trashola, they supposedly take their portable computers with them to use when away from home and can use the expensive GPU enclosure both for a perf boost and as a dock at home. That's still going to be expensive and you're still getting assraped by the performance bottleneck, but at least there's some practical sense to it. Doing the same with a mini-PC is just nonsensical since the thing doesn't work without peripherals anyway. Just get a normal PC if you need dedicated GPU levels of performance.

>>105730519
>Enclosures are expensive
They aren't enclosures, they are just docks. They are like $100.

Again, you can get a 5825u, 16gig, 1TB, 560GTX for $850. You can play literally anything on max settings 1080p 140fps with dlss, including raytracing.

>>105730367
>mini ITX
larger and cost $500 more maybe?

>>105730532
>560GTX
What the hell kind of graphics card is this even supposed to be? The GTX 560 came out 15 years ago or something. You're not running DLSS on that.

People said desktop pcs were dead back in 2012 and that didn’t pan out. Desktop computing and enthusiast computing are two different things, just because prebuilt computers are dropping off doesn’t mean people are going to stop making gaming pcs, thats a segment of the market that has always existed and will continue to exist. Barring some major breakthrough in cloud computing I doubt this will change.

>>105729477
The internet is already dead. Download everything you want and just give up on it. That's what I'm doing.

>>105730891
How would I talk to you though?

Once upon a time, the computer was inside the keyboard. Why not return?

>>105730891
>The internet is already dead
The web is already dead you mean but the web is not the internet. Load up Gemini or Gopher its like traveling back in time.
All you need to do is abandon HTTP and the corporate controlled web.

>>105733216
>Once upon a time, the computer was inside the keyboard. Why not return?

>>105733350
>Why not return?

I think you are showing the reason in your picture

>>105721082 (OP)
>do you think PC desktops are finished by 2030?
I 'member when people were asking this same question 10 years ago, except if they'll be finished by 2020 because normgroids were using laptops and tablets for everything at the time. The reality is that the desktop has already been finished for some time, with most desktop users these days being power users or gamers. You can see the signs of a desktop becoming a non-mainstream thing in how building SFF computers or having optical drives in your builds is considered nonstandard now.

>>105733350
it's a good idea but the times of pi are over

>>105733350
>arm

>>105734691
It is more of a mixed bag.
RPi:
Fairly good documentation
Long term support
Long term availability - this makes it popular in the professional market

Competitors:
Better hardware (faster, better power control)
Quick to the market
Poor support and no guarantee when EOL comes.

>>105730545
SFF is for trannies. Just build a full size atx with room for hard drives. Unless you have a nas then whatever.

>>105730594
I think he meant 5060rtx but he doesn't know it has no physx support and the 60 series has been dogshit since the 3060ti was good and the 3060 was good for cheap gddr.

>>105721082 (OP)
>are finished by 2030?
No, not at all. People ARE buying ATX mobos for $800 and so on. So definitely not. What you should ask is,
> do you think CHEAP desktops are finished by 2030?
And to that, I have to ask you, OP, how many companies still buy desktops and not laptops? IDK. I think we'll see the trend of cheap Optiplexes dying within our lifetime.

>>105721082 (OP)
Desktops will still be there in one way or another, because someone needs to maintain all the sọyware we use, but the vast majority of people will probably be pushed into m0bile devices because of availability, muh security, kikes seething about piracy and niggercialisation of technology.