>>105664965
Don't buy anything OTHER THAN IBM/Lenovo ThinkPad T, X, and W/P Series if you want the Real Business Experience™
>Other business laptops are welcome in /tpg/ (Dell Latitude/Precision, HP EliteBook/ZBook)

Why ThinkPad?
>Used machines are plentiful and cheap
>Excellent keyboards, tactile feel and quiet
>Great durability: magnesium roll cage for structural integrity, with high quality plastic body panels
>Utilitarian design: e.g. indicator LEDs, 7 row keyboard layout on older models
>Docking stations that easily turns your laptop into a desktop
>Easy to repair (most models), upgrade & maintain thanks to readily available service manuals for every model, spare parts easy & cheap to obtain
>Excellent Linux & *BSD support

ThinkWiki - General info about ThinkPads/specs
https://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki

Model generations:
>Classic IBM: T40, T41, T42
>IBM/Lenovo Transition: T43, T60, T61 (T42 - T43: significant difference in specs)
>"Classic" Lenovo: T400, T410, T420 (T61 - T400: 4:3 to 16:10)
>Transition to old modern: T430, T440, T450 (T420 - T430: membrane to chiclet)
>Old modern: T460, T470, T480 (T450 - T460: significantly less thick)
>New modern: T490, T14g1, T14g2 (T480 - T490: design change)
>New new modern: T14g3, T14g4, ... (T14g2 - T14g3: second design change)

BIOS replacement:
https://coreboot.org/downloads.html
https://libreboot.org/docs/install/
https://canoeboot.org/docs/install/

Additional resources:
https://dankpads.com/tpg/
https://biosimage.booru.org
https://1vyra.in

Patches:
https://github.com/digmorepaka/thinkpad-firmware-patches
https://github.com/hamishcoleman/thinkpad-ec

Chat:
##ibmthinkpad on libera
#/tpg/ on rizon

what Thinkpad should I get for under $50? Quad core upgradable, please

i got a e14 gen 6 amd 7735u

>>105730501
nice
does battery control work on such new machines?

>>105730589
what do you mean?

Reminder to all Estabanz ITT that your thinkpad isn't strong enough to run Slippi. So stop trying.

>>>105693071
Anyone?

>>105730740
>i'm stuck with the 30 pin
nigga buy a fucking 40 pin edp cable ffs and swap in this panel: B140QAN03.H
https://www.ebay.com/itm/236044793638
all 30 pin LCDs are fucking dogshit

>>105730478
lol, possibly lmao

T420 T430 T440p can all be had for as much but the screens are such shit that it's cheaper to get something that already has quad-core and IPS

>>105730846
>30 pin LCDs are fucking dogshit
yeah they are
>buy a fucking 40 pin edp cable
That's possible? I thought 30 pins have 2 lane eDP and 40 pins have 4 lanes

>>105729602 (OP)
took my X21 thinkpad out of storage today. the paint has become sticky so I think I'll try removing it soon and seeing if I can repaint it.

The hard drive was dead, so I plan to replace it with an mSATA SSD using an IDE adapter. I'm not sure how I'll install the OS, I may have to copy setup files to the drive before installing the drive in the laptop.

The plan is to use Windows 98SE. I'm going to see if I can test it tomorrow and hopefully nothing besides the hard drive is broken

bump

Is L series worth it over E series?

>>105733304
no

>>105733304
>>105734017
Yes if there's any chance of you spilling something on the keyboard. E series keyboards haven't been replaceable for a few years

>>105734631
>E series keyboards haven't been replaceable for a few years
Every part in a laptop is replaceable.
Like is it really so hard for you to do a palmrest swap? Ffs, /g/ is filled with people who can't think and can't do.
Also, imagine being such a fat fuck that you eat/drink near the keyboard.

T14 cons?

oddly specific but
is Japan a good place to buy a Thinkpad?
one of the keys on my X1 Carbon is going after many years of service and sadly now it's too annoying to type on

>>105729602 (OP)
>tfw just realized my $28 X230 can play PS2 at 720p 60 fps
>it runs at 90°C

I have a X250 and want to upgrade the screen, what one should I get?

>>105736425
Just set it to 30-40 fps?

>Want to put a small SSD in my un-used WWAN slot for my T14 Gen 3 AMD
>Lenovo implemented a whitelist and the system won't boot if anything except their approved shit is in that slot

Lads I've been researching this for a bit and I'm hoping you guys know of any ways around the arbitrary whitelist? It doesn't look like anyone is having luck, but some dude on Reddit said it worked just fine for him. I need hopium

>>105735089
Just saw this. I am >>105736862 so mark a non-usable WWAN slot as a con. Other for my variant are that my RAM is soldered on. Many people think the keyboard is a step down, but I like it.

That said, I really, really, really, really like my T14 Gen 3 AMD. Got it for a fair price and it does everything I need it to.

>>105736892
>fair price
How much, where are you from?

>>105737554
From USA, I paid $435 for:

>Ryzen 7 6850u
>680m GPU
>16gb RAM
>512g SSD (swapped to a 1TB)
>New battery
>FHD touch screen
>Great condition

I really am satisfied with this thing so far. It's running Mint and some testing VMs like a champ.

last great thinkpad? x61s

>>105737560
That's a great price!
Jelly
Yurup prices are still through the roof, sadly.

what thinkpad should I get?
I want something with an amazing keyboard (the really oldschool ones felt great) but it has to be modern enough to be able to do some gaming

>>105741496
so far I'm considering a t480s for around $200 that looks pretty good

>>105730846
>>105730974 (Me)
The maintenance manual (https://kaas.hpcloud.hp.com/pdf-public/pdf_7964747_en-US-1.pdf) lied to me, there's totally high-res SKUs (https://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-EliteBook-845-G10-review-The-almost-perfect-business-laptop-with-AMD-Zen4.741264.0.html)

Ordered the cable, thanks anon

This thread is the closest thing to used/refurbished laptop market.
Are surface laptops decent choice for cheap used option?

>>105729602 (OP)
Hi! i have a Thinkpad T14 and was trying to play some games that ran great on windows, emulating on cemu for example, and not great on kubuntu or mint. It seems its an issue with the current driver i915 which is defaulted on any distro instead of the newer Xe, how do i change between them? How do i tell the OS that i want to use Xe instead of i915? Thanks in advance

>>105741496
>>105741566
T480s keyboard and overall build quality are great but the iGPU really shows its age. Might be better served with a T495 or T14G1 AMD which have the same keyboard but sadly a worse chassis.

>>105741918
No, get an HP Elitebook 840/845 G7 or G8 if you need a decent, cheap silver laptop.

>>105741918
Outside of appleshit, I don't think you can beat Surface laptop displays. And they're 3:2. If that matters a lot to you, it's not a bad choice.

>>105743490
>they're 3:2. If that matters a lot to you, it's not a bad choice.
Mostly yes, and the included pen in newer models.

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does anyone know where I can download thinkpad BIOS?
I need the full original bios for a T14s gen2 AMD.
Not an update or update utility.

>>105743509
You could look at the X1 Titanium as well but people complain about throttling and the keyboard depth. idk how it compares to a Surface.

is a t440s worth $100? I would just daily drive linux on my current laptop but my uni's test proctoring program won't work with it

Got myself a T570, and found out it can do USB-C charging. So, I took my 65w charger I use my other devices and the cable to it, but absolutely nothing happens? Is there any specific cable sauce I need to look for or what's the issue here?

I have a feeling the cable might be causing the issues, but it's supposedly rated for 100w so that shouldn't be a problem

>>105744840
>is a t440s worth $100?
maybe in yurop, not here in the US

>>105746141
Might need more wattage to charge while running. Does it charge when it's powered down?

>>105746386
Nope, it just straight up does nothing. I looked at any of the settings/drivers but to no avail